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Hmm .. "Sealed-for-life" eh? Now that's novel, perhaps you'd better let us
know the make and model - so we can all avoid it for future g Seriously though, someone here *may* know the way in. .. Regretably my back-up is a few months old. .. In spite of good intentions, I guess we are all guilty of that. But thanks for the update. I'm sure all will go well and I hope you can at least retrieve the more important data. Good luck and keep us posted. Mart "Chesapeake Chum" wrote in message ... Unfortunately my external hard drive does not have screws or another way to open it without breaking the case. I decided to get someone who has the needed equipment and has done something like this before to help me with the task. Many thanks to all of you who have given me advice in this situation. I'll let you know whether we are able to save the data. Regretably my back-up is a few months old. Lesson learned. "Mart" wrote: NOT UNTIL critical (personal) data has been salvaged - the /all switch may attempt to write to the 'faulty' drive and make things worse. Hence my suggestion not to do a surface scan in my first reply, thus preventing any attempt (at this stage) to write to the disk. Alternatively use the /checkonly switch. Repairs should only be attempted if/when data is no longer critical. Mart "Corday" wrote in message ... One more shot. try scandisk /all from boot disc. Make sure you leave a space before slash. -- I mastered Wordstar graphics! "Chesapeake Chum" wrote: Thanks Mart! I'll see what I can do, probably tomorrow. "Mart" wrote: Two (possibly three) options - both along the lines that RTS alluded, in that you make your old drive a 'slave' or more accurately an extra drive off your new computer. All options entail removing the bad disk from your old machine and one messy option involves poking about in your new PC and connecting your old drive as a slave (assuming you have an IDE controller in your new computer) - not really recommended. The other easier option(s) *may* cost a few bucks and only entails removing your old disk from your old computer of course and connecting it to a USB to IDE adapter - e.g. http://www.byterunner.com/byterunner...o+IDE+C ables However, you already have one of these devices - your external hard drive!! Just open-up the external HD box, remove the existing drive and substitute the old drive and voila, you've done it for free. You can now read (and ultimately test) your old drive and recover whatever undamaged files are still there. You may find that there are some instructions for replacing/substituting hard drives in the user manual which came with the external hard drive. Good luck Mart "Chesapeake Chum" wrote in message ... Thanks guys! I recently got a new computer so would be content just to salvage my personal data off of this one rather than spending money on a new hard drive. Any help on how to salvage the data? I do have an external hard drive but it has never been used with this computer before. I also have a thumb drive with lots of capacity. "Mart" wrote: Thanks for chipping-in RTS, indeed, I quite agree - subject to CC having fully satisfied (convinced) himself that he has got a failing HDD. The important object is to NOT write to, or to read from as little as possible, the failing disk BEFORE salvaging his (personal) data. Hence my 'Surface Scan' warning. However, I suspect that CC may need further advice on (clean) installing WinMe onto a new HDD. Mart "RockyTSquirrel" wrote in message ... Mart, my tried and true fix for that kinda failure has always been to get a new HD and reinstall ME then use the old drive as a slave, transfer all "need to save" data to the new drive then take the old HD and throw it as far as I can into the lake... ) its worked everytime I've tried it over the last 10 years... "Mart" wrote in message ... From here, your problem would seem to be far more likely associated with a 'failing hard drive' than with memory issues. WinMe (in both Normal and Safe Mode) is trying to load corrupted or damaged files from your hard drive (HDD) and consequently, failing to boot. I would suggest you run scandisk c: from your (emergency) startup floppy disk, but beware!! DO NOT let it do a surface scan (at this stage) Instead, just take a note of any/all error reports and report back here. If your HDD is failing, you may wish to try to recover your (personal) data before you try booting into WinMe again. Somebody will advise you of the next steps. BTW - You cannot boot into WinMe directly from the startup floppy disk, it can only be done from the main system (failing?) HDD (Probably your C: drive). Mart "Chesapeake Chum" Chesapeake wrote in message ... I decided to boot my Windows Me from the start-up disk because it would not boot normally or in Safe Mode but instead displayed the error message:"An I/O subsystem driver failed to load. Either a file in the .\iosubsystem subdirectory is corrupt or the system is low on memory. Replace the disk and then press any key." The system has lots of memory available so I decided to boot from the start up disk and select the option to boot with access to the CD drive where I had my Windows ME CD. I thought the corrupted file could be replaced from the original Windows ME CD. Instead, I got another error message saying cannot find sector Drive C. The option to Retry didn't work so I selected Abort and after that didn't work I selected Fail which, of course, didn't help. Any suggestions for what I might do next to get my system to boot up? When I try to boot normally it often gets as far as press F3 for the configuration utility. But when I press F3 nothing happens. |
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a few of the "sealed for life" boxes really have screws under the rubber
feet on the bottom.. might be worth a look see.... "Mart" wrote in message ... Hmm .. "Sealed-for-life" eh? Now that's novel, perhaps you'd better let us know the make and model - so we can all avoid it for future g Seriously though, someone here *may* know the way in. .. Regretably my back-up is a few months old. .. In spite of good intentions, I guess we are all guilty of that. But thanks for the update. I'm sure all will go well and I hope you can at least retrieve the more important data. Good luck and keep us posted. Mart "Chesapeake Chum" wrote in message ... Unfortunately my external hard drive does not have screws or another way to open it without breaking the case. I decided to get someone who has the needed equipment and has done something like this before to help me with the task. Many thanks to all of you who have given me advice in this situation. I'll let you know whether we are able to save the data. Regretably my back-up is a few months old. Lesson learned. "Mart" wrote: NOT UNTIL critical (personal) data has been salvaged - the /all switch may attempt to write to the 'faulty' drive and make things worse. Hence my suggestion not to do a surface scan in my first reply, thus preventing any attempt (at this stage) to write to the disk. Alternatively use the /checkonly switch. Repairs should only be attempted if/when data is no longer critical. Mart "Corday" wrote in message ... One more shot. try scandisk /all from boot disc. Make sure you leave a space before slash. -- I mastered Wordstar graphics! "Chesapeake Chum" wrote: Thanks Mart! I'll see what I can do, probably tomorrow. "Mart" wrote: Two (possibly three) options - both along the lines that RTS alluded, in that you make your old drive a 'slave' or more accurately an extra drive off your new computer. All options entail removing the bad disk from your old machine and one messy option involves poking about in your new PC and connecting your old drive as a slave (assuming you have an IDE controller in your new computer) - not really recommended. The other easier option(s) *may* cost a few bucks and only entails removing your old disk from your old computer of course and connecting it to a USB to IDE adapter - e.g. http://www.byterunner.com/byterunner...o+IDE+C ables However, you already have one of these devices - your external hard drive!! Just open-up the external HD box, remove the existing drive and substitute the old drive and voila, you've done it for free. You can now read (and ultimately test) your old drive and recover whatever undamaged files are still there. You may find that there are some instructions for replacing/substituting hard drives in the user manual which came with the external hard drive. Good luck Mart "Chesapeake Chum" wrote in message ... Thanks guys! I recently got a new computer so would be content just to salvage my personal data off of this one rather than spending money on a new hard drive. Any help on how to salvage the data? I do have an external hard drive but it has never been used with this computer before. I also have a thumb drive with lots of capacity. "Mart" wrote: Thanks for chipping-in RTS, indeed, I quite agree - subject to CC having fully satisfied (convinced) himself that he has got a failing HDD. The important object is to NOT write to, or to read from as little as possible, the failing disk BEFORE salvaging his (personal) data. Hence my 'Surface Scan' warning. However, I suspect that CC may need further advice on (clean) installing WinMe onto a new HDD. Mart "RockyTSquirrel" wrote in message ... Mart, my tried and true fix for that kinda failure has always been to get a new HD and reinstall ME then use the old drive as a slave, transfer all "need to save" data to the new drive then take the old HD and throw it as far as I can into the lake... ) its worked everytime I've tried it over the last 10 years... "Mart" wrote in message ... From here, your problem would seem to be far more likely associated with a 'failing hard drive' than with memory issues. WinMe (in both Normal and Safe Mode) is trying to load corrupted or damaged files from your hard drive (HDD) and consequently, failing to boot. I would suggest you run scandisk c: from your (emergency) startup floppy disk, but beware!! DO NOT let it do a surface scan (at this stage) Instead, just take a note of any/all error reports and report back here. If your HDD is failing, you may wish to try to recover your (personal) data before you try booting into WinMe again. Somebody will advise you of the next steps. BTW - You cannot boot into WinMe directly from the startup floppy disk, it can only be done from the main system (failing?) HDD (Probably your C: drive). Mart "Chesapeake Chum" Chesapeake wrote in message ... I decided to boot my Windows Me from the start-up disk because it would not boot normally or in Safe Mode but instead displayed the error message:"An I/O subsystem driver failed to load. Either a file in the .\iosubsystem subdirectory is corrupt or the system is low on memory. Replace the disk and then press any key." The system has lots of memory available so I decided to boot from the start up disk and select the option to boot with access to the CD drive where I had my Windows ME CD. I thought the corrupted file could be replaced from the original Windows ME CD. Instead, I got another error message saying cannot find sector Drive C. The option to Retry didn't work so I selected Abort and after that didn't work I selected Fail which, of course, didn't help. Any suggestions for what I might do next to get my system to boot up? When I try to boot normally it often gets as far as press F3 for the configuration utility. But when I press F3 nothing happens. |
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I had a similar problem recently Mart when I was asked to see if I could
recover data from a dead 2½" LaCie external drive. Short of using a hammer I couldn't see a way in including looking under pads/feet etc. -- Mike M Mart wrote: Hmm .. "Sealed-for-life" eh? Now that's novel, perhaps you'd better let us know the make and model - so we can all avoid it for future g Seriously though, someone here *may* know the way in. .. Regretably my back-up is a few months old. .. In spite of good intentions, I guess we are all guilty of that. But thanks for the update. I'm sure all will go well and I hope you can at least retrieve the more important data. Good luck and keep us posted. |
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Well, subject to RTS's foot transplant option then I suppose a few dots of
super-glue vs. 4 screws might just save a few pence in production costs, Mike g But it sounds like you would still have to resort to destructive brute force if the data recovery was so important. Just proves how useful a stand-alone IDE - USB adapter tool can be and may well be the simplest solution at this time to CC's original problem. Mart "Mike M" wrote in message ... I had a similar problem recently Mart when I was asked to see if I could recover data from a dead 2½" LaCie external drive. Short of using a hammer I couldn't see a way in including looking under pads/feet etc. -- Mike M Mart wrote: Hmm .. "Sealed-for-life" eh? Now that's novel, perhaps you'd better let us know the make and model - so we can all avoid it for future g Seriously though, someone here *may* know the way in. .. Regretably my back-up is a few months old. .. In spite of good intentions, I guess we are all guilty of that. But thanks for the update. I'm sure all will go well and I hope you can at least retrieve the more important data. Good luck and keep us posted. |
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Mart, I've got the tools required including the hammer however I'm not sure
that LaCie would be happy about replacing a defective drive under warranty if it were to have been returned with the case smashed! vbg What I was trying to do for my friend was to recover data from the disk before he returned the drive as being defective. -- Mike Mart wrote: Well, subject to RTS's foot transplant option then I suppose a few dots of super-glue vs. 4 screws might just save a few pence in production costs, Mike g But it sounds like you would still have to resort to destructive brute force if the data recovery was so important. Just proves how useful a stand-alone IDE - USB adapter tool can be and may well be the simplest solution at this time to CC's original problem. |
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Mike, not sure that I would be happy sending a 'faulty' drive back, even
under warranty, if it contained personal data no matter how damaged it was. I'd be happier destroying it beyond all recognition and write it off than trusting it to some spotty kid in a 'Returns Department' after reading the numerous scare stories. Mart "Mike M" wrote in message ... Mart, I've got the tools required including the hammer however I'm not sure that LaCie would be happy about replacing a defective drive under warranty if it were to have been returned with the case smashed! vbg What I was trying to do for my friend was to recover data from the disk before he returned the drive as being defective. -- Mike |
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"Mart" wrote in message ... Mike, not sure that I would be happy sending a 'faulty' drive back, even under warranty, if it contained personal data no matter how damaged it was. I'd be happier destroying it beyond all recognition and write it off than trusting it to some spotty kid in a 'Returns Department' after reading the numerous scare stories. A sledge hammer is the only effective tool I can think of to accomplish that, Mart, besides machinery or high intensity fire. Unless you know one of the astronauts to take it along into space - no, bad idea too g. H. Mart "Mike M" wrote in message ... Mart, I've got the tools required including the hammer however I'm not sure that LaCie would be happy about replacing a defective drive under warranty if it were to have been returned with the case smashed! vbg What I was trying to do for my friend was to recover data from the disk before he returned the drive as being defective. -- Mike |
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Harry wrote :-
Unless you know one of the astronauts to take it along into space - Jeepers Harry, we're bad enough at controlling our own pollution here on earth without dumping it into outer space and inflicting it on to some other life form. I think the sledge hammer followed by the recycle bin is a better course of action. Mart "webster72n" wrote in message ... "Mart" wrote in message ... Mike, not sure that I would be happy sending a 'faulty' drive back, even under warranty, if it contained personal data no matter how damaged it was. I'd be happier destroying it beyond all recognition and write it off than trusting it to some spotty kid in a 'Returns Department' after reading the numerous scare stories. A sledge hammer is the only effective tool I can think of to accomplish that, Mart, besides machinery or high intensity fire. Unless you know one of the astronauts to take it along into space - no, bad idea too g. H. Mart "Mike M" wrote in message ... Mart, I've got the tools required including the hammer however I'm not sure that LaCie would be happy about replacing a defective drive under warranty if it were to have been returned with the case smashed! vbg What I was trying to do for my friend was to recover data from the disk before he returned the drive as being defective. -- Mike |
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Mart,
Which is what happened. That is, since I was unable to recover the data and then clean the drive, the owner chose to destroy it himself rather than return it with the data quite possibly intact. Shame really because it looked to be a nice bit of kit but with the drive having failed after less than six months I know I won't be buying a LaCie. -- Mike Mart wrote: Mike, not sure that I would be happy sending a 'faulty' drive back, even under warranty, if it contained personal data no matter how damaged it was. I'd be happier destroying it beyond all recognition and write it off than trusting it to some spotty kid in a 'Returns Department' after reading the numerous scare stories. |
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Glad I didn't buy one of those then g my new drive arrived today and is
sitting here with it's little green light showing me it's on at least g -- Joan Archer http://www.freewebs.com/crossstitcher http://lachsoft.com/photogallery "Mike M" wrote in message ... Mart, Which is what happened. That is, since I was unable to recover the data and then clean the drive, the owner chose to destroy it himself rather than return it with the data quite possibly intact. Shame really because it looked to be a nice bit of kit but with the drive having failed after less than six months I know I won't be buying a LaCie. -- Mike Mart wrote: Mike, not sure that I would be happy sending a 'faulty' drive back, even under warranty, if it contained personal data no matter how damaged it was. I'd be happier destroying it beyond all recognition and write it off than trusting it to some spotty kid in a 'Returns Department' after reading the numerous scare stories. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4392 (20090903) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4392 (20090903) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com |
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