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  #11  
Old January 30th 09, 06:07 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
glee
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 2,458
Default usb drives fr win98

FWIW, and again not related to the main issue....you can use a PCCard network card
(Ethernet adapter) in the PCCard slot of the laptop for Ethernet. The problem would
be finding one that still provided Win98 drivers!

I suggest you look in Add/Remove Programs for entries to uninstall the unofficial
service pack you installed and also for the USB driver you installed, and uninstall
both. If that is not an option, then wipe out and reload clean once again so you
can start over with a different USB driver for the thumb drive.

There is a driver you can try at wintricks.it The info for the driver is in
Italian, but it is a simple process to use it if you want to try that instead, after
the "service pack" and generic driver you tried are gone, and you have verified that
your Battery entry is back to normal, and the USB Internet connection is working
again.

I can try to walk you through the process of using this driver after you get the
system back to its original working state. It is not installed beforehand like the
one you tried, rather you point to it when Windows first detects the inserted thumb
drive, as you can see from the pictures on the web pages, even if you cannot read
Italian.
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98.html
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm


"Rich newtech" wrote in message
...
Yes, that has nothing to do with my problem. But i'll answer it anyway. The
computer is from 1998 and it does not have an eathernet connection. I have
dsl but this computer has no way of connecting to that because it uses
eathernet. That is why i used the adaptor to connect to the usb port. I use
to connect to the internet (10 years ago) with this computer via a phone jack
line. I have a 56k modem pc card that i install in the laptop. So the problem
is that the usb drives that i installed are not compatable or override the
drives for the trendnet adaptor and have an effect on the ACPI battery in my
device manager. That is what i need to correct if possible.

I hope that cleared up why i am trying to use the usb port for the internet.
Also, let me be clear that this connection worked fine prior to installing
the usb drivers i referred to in my first post.

"glee" wrote:

Replies inline...
"Rich newtech" wrote in message
...
Let me try to answer all of your questions. First this is an old laptop that
i just replaced the hard drive and there is no information that i need to
keep. I am trying to fix it for my brother. It is 98FE and is running on a
toshiba satellite laptop. I am not using an NIC because i do not have a phone
line internet connection. So i am using a TRENDnet adaptor which allows for
an ethernet connection using the usb port.


OK, this has nothing to do with your USB issue, but what you stated about not
using
a NIC makes no sense to me. A NIC is a network card; it has absolutely nothing
to
do with a phone line. What type of Internet connection is it...cable or ADSL?
Normally, if you have a network card installed or an Ethernet port built into the
motherboard, you would use that to connect to your cable modem or ADSL modem (or
router), if you want a much more reliable connection than using a USB adapter
device. Is there a network card installed? If so, switch your Internet
connection
to Ethernet and forget about the USB device.


I tried installing the service pack and then loading the usb drivers after
which i noticed the problems with loss of internet connection and "ACPI
battery" (this is the line item in the device manager. It is a code 10 which
says that the NTKERN.VXD is not loading the proper drivers.


That "service pack" is a mix of system files from different operating systems,
and I
would not personally use it without *expecting* problems to arise, such as yours.
I
would sooner buy a used Win98SE disc and upgrade from Win98FE, than install this
unoffical service pack.


So i re-installed the os and started over. The same problems occured only
after i loaded the drivers.


....but it all works correctly before you install the generic USB driver?
Curious....how are you reinstalling the OS? Are you using the recovery or reload
CD
for that model Toshiba laptop, so that all the drivers for that hardware is
properly
installed? Or are you installing with a retail Win98 disc and not loading any of
the Toshiba-specific drivers or power management utilities?


I would like to know if there is a fix to make the drivers compatible or how
can i isolate them so i can remove them to try some other drivers.


I don't know how you uninstall the "service pack". I would hope there is an
uninstall entry for it in Control Panel Add/Remove Programs. There should be an
entry there for uninstalling the Maximus Decim Generic USB Driver.


I beieve that i have usb 1.1.

Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks


--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm


"glee" wrote:

"Rich newtech" wrote in message
...
I tried downloading the usb drives from the following site.

http://www.technical-assistance.co.uk/kb/usbmsd98.php

Now my thumb drives work but my usb internet connection no longer does. I
get an error saying that the hardware is either not plugged in or the
drivers
need updating. Which is not the case. Also, i am getting an error in "ACPI
Battery" in my device manager. It says that the NTKERN.VXD is not loading
the proper drivers. Both of these problems began only after i installed the
usb drivers from the above mentioned site.

Anyone have any solutions?
Thanks

The web page gives links to Win98FE and Win98SE driver packages, and
instructions
on
how to tell which you have. Which operating system do you have, Win98FE or
Win98SE?

Which driver set did you download and install?

Did you install version 2.x or version 3.x of the driver set, if using
Win98SE?
(Only version 2.x of the driver is needed if there is no USB 2.0 controller on
your
system)

Did you install the "unofficial service pack", if using Win98FE? (Some users
have
had success without installing that pack, others must use it)

Do you have a USB 2.0 controller or are the computer's ports all USB 1.1?

Is it a laptop or a desktop computer?


You also do not state what type of Internet connection you have, and what USB
device
you are using for Internet, and why you are not using a network interface card
(NIC)
instead.

What is the exact name of the entry in Device Manager with the problem?
What is the Code number shown for the problem in the properties of the device
there?

The best place to get help with those unsupported drivers is he
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=43605

There are 23 pages of posts in that thread...read through them quickly for
similar
issues, or post a question in reply to that thread.

There is no support we can give for those drivers here, and little support is
provided by the makers of the driver set.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm





  #12  
Old January 30th 09, 08:21 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
Rich newtech[_2_]
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 26
Default usb drives fr win98

I was unable to remove from the "add/remove" progams so i'm just going to
re-install the os. What does FWIW mean? Also, thanks for the new link. I'll
try those drivers after i get my internet connection. I would try to find an
ethernet pccard but again i am trying to fix this for my brother and he was
going to throw it away. I'm already into if for $65 for parts not counting
about a week's worth of time trying to get it done. Then another $30 to ship
it back to him (he's in georgia and i'm in CA)So i'm not ready to spend any
more on it. Plus i think he is going to have "dial up" so he'll be able to us
the pc card. It gets to a point when it will make more sense for him to get a
newer used machine close to where he is. But thanks for the help. Hopefully
this will solve the problem.

Thanks again for your help
Richard

"glee" wrote:

FWIW, and again not related to the main issue....you can use a PCCard network card
(Ethernet adapter) in the PCCard slot of the laptop for Ethernet. The problem would
be finding one that still provided Win98 drivers!

I suggest you look in Add/Remove Programs for entries to uninstall the unofficial
service pack you installed and also for the USB driver you installed, and uninstall
both. If that is not an option, then wipe out and reload clean once again so you
can start over with a different USB driver for the thumb drive.

There is a driver you can try at wintricks.it The info for the driver is in
Italian, but it is a simple process to use it if you want to try that instead, after
the "service pack" and generic driver you tried are gone, and you have verified that
your Battery entry is back to normal, and the USB Internet connection is working
again.

I can try to walk you through the process of using this driver after you get the
system back to its original working state. It is not installed beforehand like the
one you tried, rather you point to it when Windows first detects the inserted thumb
drive, as you can see from the pictures on the web pages, even if you cannot read
Italian.
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98.html
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm


"Rich newtech" wrote in message
...
Yes, that has nothing to do with my problem. But i'll answer it anyway. The
computer is from 1998 and it does not have an eathernet connection. I have
dsl but this computer has no way of connecting to that because it uses
eathernet. That is why i used the adaptor to connect to the usb port. I use
to connect to the internet (10 years ago) with this computer via a phone jack
line. I have a 56k modem pc card that i install in the laptop. So the problem
is that the usb drives that i installed are not compatable or override the
drives for the trendnet adaptor and have an effect on the ACPI battery in my
device manager. That is what i need to correct if possible.

I hope that cleared up why i am trying to use the usb port for the internet.
Also, let me be clear that this connection worked fine prior to installing
the usb drivers i referred to in my first post.

"glee" wrote:

Replies inline...
"Rich newtech" wrote in message
...
Let me try to answer all of your questions. First this is an old laptop that
i just replaced the hard drive and there is no information that i need to
keep. I am trying to fix it for my brother. It is 98FE and is running on a
toshiba satellite laptop. I am not using an NIC because i do not have a phone
line internet connection. So i am using a TRENDnet adaptor which allows for
an ethernet connection using the usb port.

OK, this has nothing to do with your USB issue, but what you stated about not
using
a NIC makes no sense to me. A NIC is a network card; it has absolutely nothing
to
do with a phone line. What type of Internet connection is it...cable or ADSL?
Normally, if you have a network card installed or an Ethernet port built into the
motherboard, you would use that to connect to your cable modem or ADSL modem (or
router), if you want a much more reliable connection than using a USB adapter
device. Is there a network card installed? If so, switch your Internet
connection
to Ethernet and forget about the USB device.


I tried installing the service pack and then loading the usb drivers after
which i noticed the problems with loss of internet connection and "ACPI
battery" (this is the line item in the device manager. It is a code 10 which
says that the NTKERN.VXD is not loading the proper drivers.

That "service pack" is a mix of system files from different operating systems,
and I
would not personally use it without *expecting* problems to arise, such as yours.
I
would sooner buy a used Win98SE disc and upgrade from Win98FE, than install this
unoffical service pack.


So i re-installed the os and started over. The same problems occured only
after i loaded the drivers.

....but it all works correctly before you install the generic USB driver?
Curious....how are you reinstalling the OS? Are you using the recovery or reload
CD
for that model Toshiba laptop, so that all the drivers for that hardware is
properly
installed? Or are you installing with a retail Win98 disc and not loading any of
the Toshiba-specific drivers or power management utilities?


I would like to know if there is a fix to make the drivers compatible or how
can i isolate them so i can remove them to try some other drivers.

I don't know how you uninstall the "service pack". I would hope there is an
uninstall entry for it in Control Panel Add/Remove Programs. There should be an
entry there for uninstalling the Maximus Decim Generic USB Driver.


I beieve that i have usb 1.1.

Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks

--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm


"glee" wrote:

"Rich newtech" wrote in message
...
I tried downloading the usb drives from the following site.

http://www.technical-assistance.co.uk/kb/usbmsd98.php

Now my thumb drives work but my usb internet connection no longer does. I
get an error saying that the hardware is either not plugged in or the
drivers
need updating. Which is not the case. Also, i am getting an error in "ACPI
Battery" in my device manager. It says that the NTKERN.VXD is not loading
the proper drivers. Both of these problems began only after i installed the
usb drivers from the above mentioned site.

Anyone have any solutions?
Thanks

The web page gives links to Win98FE and Win98SE driver packages, and
instructions
on
how to tell which you have. Which operating system do you have, Win98FE or
Win98SE?

Which driver set did you download and install?

Did you install version 2.x or version 3.x of the driver set, if using
Win98SE?
(Only version 2.x of the driver is needed if there is no USB 2.0 controller on
your
system)

Did you install the "unofficial service pack", if using Win98FE? (Some users
have
had success without installing that pack, others must use it)

Do you have a USB 2.0 controller or are the computer's ports all USB 1.1?

Is it a laptop or a desktop computer?


You also do not state what type of Internet connection you have, and what USB
device
you are using for Internet, and why you are not using a network interface card
(NIC)
instead.

What is the exact name of the entry in Device Manager with the problem?
What is the Code number shown for the problem in the properties of the device
there?

The best place to get help with those unsupported drivers is he
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=43605

There are 23 pages of posts in that thread...read through them quickly for
similar
issues, or post a question in reply to that thread.

There is no support we can give for those drivers here, and little support is
provided by the makers of the driver set.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm






  #13  
Old January 30th 09, 08:21 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
Rich newtech[_2_]
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 26
Default usb drives fr win98

I was unable to remove from the "add/remove" progams so i'm just going to
re-install the os. What does FWIW mean? Also, thanks for the new link. I'll
try those drivers after i get my internet connection. I would try to find an
ethernet pccard but again i am trying to fix this for my brother and he was
going to throw it away. I'm already into if for $65 for parts not counting
about a week's worth of time trying to get it done. Then another $30 to ship
it back to him (he's in georgia and i'm in CA)So i'm not ready to spend any
more on it. Plus i think he is going to have "dial up" so he'll be able to us
the pc card. It gets to a point when it will make more sense for him to get a
newer used machine close to where he is. But thanks for the help. Hopefully
this will solve the problem.

Thanks again for your help
Richard

"glee" wrote:

FWIW, and again not related to the main issue....you can use a PCCard network card
(Ethernet adapter) in the PCCard slot of the laptop for Ethernet. The problem would
be finding one that still provided Win98 drivers!

I suggest you look in Add/Remove Programs for entries to uninstall the unofficial
service pack you installed and also for the USB driver you installed, and uninstall
both. If that is not an option, then wipe out and reload clean once again so you
can start over with a different USB driver for the thumb drive.

There is a driver you can try at wintricks.it The info for the driver is in
Italian, but it is a simple process to use it if you want to try that instead, after
the "service pack" and generic driver you tried are gone, and you have verified that
your Battery entry is back to normal, and the USB Internet connection is working
again.

I can try to walk you through the process of using this driver after you get the
system back to its original working state. It is not installed beforehand like the
one you tried, rather you point to it when Windows first detects the inserted thumb
drive, as you can see from the pictures on the web pages, even if you cannot read
Italian.
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98.html
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm


"Rich newtech" wrote in message
...
Yes, that has nothing to do with my problem. But i'll answer it anyway. The
computer is from 1998 and it does not have an eathernet connection. I have
dsl but this computer has no way of connecting to that because it uses
eathernet. That is why i used the adaptor to connect to the usb port. I use
to connect to the internet (10 years ago) with this computer via a phone jack
line. I have a 56k modem pc card that i install in the laptop. So the problem
is that the usb drives that i installed are not compatable or override the
drives for the trendnet adaptor and have an effect on the ACPI battery in my
device manager. That is what i need to correct if possible.

I hope that cleared up why i am trying to use the usb port for the internet.
Also, let me be clear that this connection worked fine prior to installing
the usb drivers i referred to in my first post.

"glee" wrote:

Replies inline...
"Rich newtech" wrote in message
...
Let me try to answer all of your questions. First this is an old laptop that
i just replaced the hard drive and there is no information that i need to
keep. I am trying to fix it for my brother. It is 98FE and is running on a
toshiba satellite laptop. I am not using an NIC because i do not have a phone
line internet connection. So i am using a TRENDnet adaptor which allows for
an ethernet connection using the usb port.

OK, this has nothing to do with your USB issue, but what you stated about not
using
a NIC makes no sense to me. A NIC is a network card; it has absolutely nothing
to
do with a phone line. What type of Internet connection is it...cable or ADSL?
Normally, if you have a network card installed or an Ethernet port built into the
motherboard, you would use that to connect to your cable modem or ADSL modem (or
router), if you want a much more reliable connection than using a USB adapter
device. Is there a network card installed? If so, switch your Internet
connection
to Ethernet and forget about the USB device.


I tried installing the service pack and then loading the usb drivers after
which i noticed the problems with loss of internet connection and "ACPI
battery" (this is the line item in the device manager. It is a code 10 which
says that the NTKERN.VXD is not loading the proper drivers.

That "service pack" is a mix of system files from different operating systems,
and I
would not personally use it without *expecting* problems to arise, such as yours.
I
would sooner buy a used Win98SE disc and upgrade from Win98FE, than install this
unoffical service pack.


So i re-installed the os and started over. The same problems occured only
after i loaded the drivers.

....but it all works correctly before you install the generic USB driver?
Curious....how are you reinstalling the OS? Are you using the recovery or reload
CD
for that model Toshiba laptop, so that all the drivers for that hardware is
properly
installed? Or are you installing with a retail Win98 disc and not loading any of
the Toshiba-specific drivers or power management utilities?


I would like to know if there is a fix to make the drivers compatible or how
can i isolate them so i can remove them to try some other drivers.

I don't know how you uninstall the "service pack". I would hope there is an
uninstall entry for it in Control Panel Add/Remove Programs. There should be an
entry there for uninstalling the Maximus Decim Generic USB Driver.


I beieve that i have usb 1.1.

Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks

--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm


"glee" wrote:

"Rich newtech" wrote in message
...
I tried downloading the usb drives from the following site.

http://www.technical-assistance.co.uk/kb/usbmsd98.php

Now my thumb drives work but my usb internet connection no longer does. I
get an error saying that the hardware is either not plugged in or the
drivers
need updating. Which is not the case. Also, i am getting an error in "ACPI
Battery" in my device manager. It says that the NTKERN.VXD is not loading
the proper drivers. Both of these problems began only after i installed the
usb drivers from the above mentioned site.

Anyone have any solutions?
Thanks

The web page gives links to Win98FE and Win98SE driver packages, and
instructions
on
how to tell which you have. Which operating system do you have, Win98FE or
Win98SE?

Which driver set did you download and install?

Did you install version 2.x or version 3.x of the driver set, if using
Win98SE?
(Only version 2.x of the driver is needed if there is no USB 2.0 controller on
your
system)

Did you install the "unofficial service pack", if using Win98FE? (Some users
have
had success without installing that pack, others must use it)

Do you have a USB 2.0 controller or are the computer's ports all USB 1.1?

Is it a laptop or a desktop computer?


You also do not state what type of Internet connection you have, and what USB
device
you are using for Internet, and why you are not using a network interface card
(NIC)
instead.

What is the exact name of the entry in Device Manager with the problem?
What is the Code number shown for the problem in the properties of the device
there?

The best place to get help with those unsupported drivers is he
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=43605

There are 23 pages of posts in that thread...read through them quickly for
similar
issues, or post a question in reply to that thread.

There is no support we can give for those drivers here, and little support is
provided by the makers of the driver set.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm






  #14  
Old January 30th 09, 11:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
glee
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 2,458
Default usb drives fr win98

FWIW = For What It's Worth.

Although the pages are in Italian, you can look at the screenshots on some of the
pages to determine how the driver is installed and uninstalled:
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98.html
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_2.html
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_3.html
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_4.html
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_5.html
The Download link is the "Download" button on the last page.
http://www.wintricks.it/download/wtgenusb.zip

Basically, you download the driver package (.zip file), and unzip it to a folder
where you plan to store it on the computer. Then when you insert your flash drive,
Windows will detect it and give you the option to find the driver. Choose to have
it look in the folder where you unzipped the downloaded files, and it will see the
..inf file there and install your flash drive. Voila!
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm


"Rich newtech" wrote in message
...
I was unable to remove from the "add/remove" progams so i'm just going to
re-install the os. What does FWIW mean? Also, thanks for the new link. I'll
try those drivers after i get my internet connection. I would try to find an
ethernet pccard but again i am trying to fix this for my brother and he was
going to throw it away. I'm already into if for $65 for parts not counting
about a week's worth of time trying to get it done. Then another $30 to ship
it back to him (he's in georgia and i'm in CA)So i'm not ready to spend any
more on it. Plus i think he is going to have "dial up" so he'll be able to us
the pc card. It gets to a point when it will make more sense for him to get a
newer used machine close to where he is. But thanks for the help. Hopefully
this will solve the problem.

Thanks again for your help
Richard

"glee" wrote:

FWIW, and again not related to the main issue....you can use a PCCard network
card
(Ethernet adapter) in the PCCard slot of the laptop for Ethernet. The problem
would
be finding one that still provided Win98 drivers!

I suggest you look in Add/Remove Programs for entries to uninstall the unofficial
service pack you installed and also for the USB driver you installed, and
uninstall
both. If that is not an option, then wipe out and reload clean once again so you
can start over with a different USB driver for the thumb drive.

There is a driver you can try at wintricks.it The info for the driver is in
Italian, but it is a simple process to use it if you want to try that instead,
after
the "service pack" and generic driver you tried are gone, and you have verified
that
your Battery entry is back to normal, and the USB Internet connection is working
again.

I can try to walk you through the process of using this driver after you get the
system back to its original working state. It is not installed beforehand like
the
one you tried, rather you point to it when Windows first detects the inserted
thumb
drive, as you can see from the pictures on the web pages, even if you cannot read
Italian.
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98.html
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm


"Rich newtech" wrote in message
...
Yes, that has nothing to do with my problem. But i'll answer it anyway. The
computer is from 1998 and it does not have an eathernet connection. I have
dsl but this computer has no way of connecting to that because it uses
eathernet. That is why i used the adaptor to connect to the usb port. I use
to connect to the internet (10 years ago) with this computer via a phone jack
line. I have a 56k modem pc card that i install in the laptop. So the problem
is that the usb drives that i installed are not compatable or override the
drives for the trendnet adaptor and have an effect on the ACPI battery in my
device manager. That is what i need to correct if possible.

I hope that cleared up why i am trying to use the usb port for the internet.
Also, let me be clear that this connection worked fine prior to installing
the usb drivers i referred to in my first post.

"glee" wrote:

Replies inline...
"Rich newtech" wrote in message
...
Let me try to answer all of your questions. First this is an old laptop that
i just replaced the hard drive and there is no information that i need to
keep. I am trying to fix it for my brother. It is 98FE and is running on a
toshiba satellite laptop. I am not using an NIC because i do not have a
phone
line internet connection. So i am using a TRENDnet adaptor which allows for
an ethernet connection using the usb port.

OK, this has nothing to do with your USB issue, but what you stated about not
using
a NIC makes no sense to me. A NIC is a network card; it has absolutely
nothing
to
do with a phone line. What type of Internet connection is it...cable or ADSL?
Normally, if you have a network card installed or an Ethernet port built into
the
motherboard, you would use that to connect to your cable modem or ADSL modem
(or
router), if you want a much more reliable connection than using a USB adapter
device. Is there a network card installed? If so, switch your Internet
connection
to Ethernet and forget about the USB device.


I tried installing the service pack and then loading the usb drivers after
which i noticed the problems with loss of internet connection and "ACPI
battery" (this is the line item in the device manager. It is a code 10 which
says that the NTKERN.VXD is not loading the proper drivers.

That "service pack" is a mix of system files from different operating systems,
and I
would not personally use it without *expecting* problems to arise, such as
yours.
I
would sooner buy a used Win98SE disc and upgrade from Win98FE, than install
this
unoffical service pack.


So i re-installed the os and started over. The same problems occured only
after i loaded the drivers.

....but it all works correctly before you install the generic USB driver?
Curious....how are you reinstalling the OS? Are you using the recovery or
reload
CD
for that model Toshiba laptop, so that all the drivers for that hardware is
properly
installed? Or are you installing with a retail Win98 disc and not loading any
of
the Toshiba-specific drivers or power management utilities?


I would like to know if there is a fix to make the drivers compatible or how
can i isolate them so i can remove them to try some other drivers.

I don't know how you uninstall the "service pack". I would hope there is an
uninstall entry for it in Control Panel Add/Remove Programs. There should be
an
entry there for uninstalling the Maximus Decim Generic USB Driver.


I beieve that i have usb 1.1.

Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks

--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm


"glee" wrote:

"Rich newtech" wrote in message
...
I tried downloading the usb drives from the following site.

http://www.technical-assistance.co.uk/kb/usbmsd98.php

Now my thumb drives work but my usb internet connection no longer does. I
get an error saying that the hardware is either not plugged in or the
drivers
need updating. Which is not the case. Also, i am getting an error in
"ACPI
Battery" in my device manager. It says that the NTKERN.VXD is not
loading
the proper drivers. Both of these problems began only after i installed
the
usb drivers from the above mentioned site.

Anyone have any solutions?
Thanks

The web page gives links to Win98FE and Win98SE driver packages, and
instructions
on
how to tell which you have. Which operating system do you have, Win98FE or
Win98SE?

Which driver set did you download and install?

Did you install version 2.x or version 3.x of the driver set, if using
Win98SE?
(Only version 2.x of the driver is needed if there is no USB 2.0 controller
on
your
system)

Did you install the "unofficial service pack", if using Win98FE? (Some
users
have
had success without installing that pack, others must use it)

Do you have a USB 2.0 controller or are the computer's ports all USB 1.1?

Is it a laptop or a desktop computer?


You also do not state what type of Internet connection you have, and what
USB
device
you are using for Internet, and why you are not using a network interface
card
(NIC)
instead.

What is the exact name of the entry in Device Manager with the problem?
What is the Code number shown for the problem in the properties of the
device
there?

The best place to get help with those unsupported drivers is he
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=43605

There are 23 pages of posts in that thread...read through them quickly for
similar
issues, or post a question in reply to that thread.

There is no support we can give for those drivers here, and little support
is
provided by the makers of the driver set.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm







  #15  
Old January 30th 09, 11:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
glee
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 2,458
Default usb drives fr win98

FWIW = For What It's Worth.

Although the pages are in Italian, you can look at the screenshots on some of the
pages to determine how the driver is installed and uninstalled:
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98.html
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_2.html
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_3.html
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_4.html
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_5.html
The Download link is the "Download" button on the last page.
http://www.wintricks.it/download/wtgenusb.zip

Basically, you download the driver package (.zip file), and unzip it to a folder
where you plan to store it on the computer. Then when you insert your flash drive,
Windows will detect it and give you the option to find the driver. Choose to have
it look in the folder where you unzipped the downloaded files, and it will see the
..inf file there and install your flash drive. Voila!
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm


"Rich newtech" wrote in message
...
I was unable to remove from the "add/remove" progams so i'm just going to
re-install the os. What does FWIW mean? Also, thanks for the new link. I'll
try those drivers after i get my internet connection. I would try to find an
ethernet pccard but again i am trying to fix this for my brother and he was
going to throw it away. I'm already into if for $65 for parts not counting
about a week's worth of time trying to get it done. Then another $30 to ship
it back to him (he's in georgia and i'm in CA)So i'm not ready to spend any
more on it. Plus i think he is going to have "dial up" so he'll be able to us
the pc card. It gets to a point when it will make more sense for him to get a
newer used machine close to where he is. But thanks for the help. Hopefully
this will solve the problem.

Thanks again for your help
Richard

"glee" wrote:

FWIW, and again not related to the main issue....you can use a PCCard network
card
(Ethernet adapter) in the PCCard slot of the laptop for Ethernet. The problem
would
be finding one that still provided Win98 drivers!

I suggest you look in Add/Remove Programs for entries to uninstall the unofficial
service pack you installed and also for the USB driver you installed, and
uninstall
both. If that is not an option, then wipe out and reload clean once again so you
can start over with a different USB driver for the thumb drive.

There is a driver you can try at wintricks.it The info for the driver is in
Italian, but it is a simple process to use it if you want to try that instead,
after
the "service pack" and generic driver you tried are gone, and you have verified
that
your Battery entry is back to normal, and the USB Internet connection is working
again.

I can try to walk you through the process of using this driver after you get the
system back to its original working state. It is not installed beforehand like
the
one you tried, rather you point to it when Windows first detects the inserted
thumb
drive, as you can see from the pictures on the web pages, even if you cannot read
Italian.
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98.html
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm


"Rich newtech" wrote in message
...
Yes, that has nothing to do with my problem. But i'll answer it anyway. The
computer is from 1998 and it does not have an eathernet connection. I have
dsl but this computer has no way of connecting to that because it uses
eathernet. That is why i used the adaptor to connect to the usb port. I use
to connect to the internet (10 years ago) with this computer via a phone jack
line. I have a 56k modem pc card that i install in the laptop. So the problem
is that the usb drives that i installed are not compatable or override the
drives for the trendnet adaptor and have an effect on the ACPI battery in my
device manager. That is what i need to correct if possible.

I hope that cleared up why i am trying to use the usb port for the internet.
Also, let me be clear that this connection worked fine prior to installing
the usb drivers i referred to in my first post.

"glee" wrote:

Replies inline...
"Rich newtech" wrote in message
...
Let me try to answer all of your questions. First this is an old laptop that
i just replaced the hard drive and there is no information that i need to
keep. I am trying to fix it for my brother. It is 98FE and is running on a
toshiba satellite laptop. I am not using an NIC because i do not have a
phone
line internet connection. So i am using a TRENDnet adaptor which allows for
an ethernet connection using the usb port.

OK, this has nothing to do with your USB issue, but what you stated about not
using
a NIC makes no sense to me. A NIC is a network card; it has absolutely
nothing
to
do with a phone line. What type of Internet connection is it...cable or ADSL?
Normally, if you have a network card installed or an Ethernet port built into
the
motherboard, you would use that to connect to your cable modem or ADSL modem
(or
router), if you want a much more reliable connection than using a USB adapter
device. Is there a network card installed? If so, switch your Internet
connection
to Ethernet and forget about the USB device.


I tried installing the service pack and then loading the usb drivers after
which i noticed the problems with loss of internet connection and "ACPI
battery" (this is the line item in the device manager. It is a code 10 which
says that the NTKERN.VXD is not loading the proper drivers.

That "service pack" is a mix of system files from different operating systems,
and I
would not personally use it without *expecting* problems to arise, such as
yours.
I
would sooner buy a used Win98SE disc and upgrade from Win98FE, than install
this
unoffical service pack.


So i re-installed the os and started over. The same problems occured only
after i loaded the drivers.

....but it all works correctly before you install the generic USB driver?
Curious....how are you reinstalling the OS? Are you using the recovery or
reload
CD
for that model Toshiba laptop, so that all the drivers for that hardware is
properly
installed? Or are you installing with a retail Win98 disc and not loading any
of
the Toshiba-specific drivers or power management utilities?


I would like to know if there is a fix to make the drivers compatible or how
can i isolate them so i can remove them to try some other drivers.

I don't know how you uninstall the "service pack". I would hope there is an
uninstall entry for it in Control Panel Add/Remove Programs. There should be
an
entry there for uninstalling the Maximus Decim Generic USB Driver.


I beieve that i have usb 1.1.

Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks

--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm


"glee" wrote:

"Rich newtech" wrote in message
...
I tried downloading the usb drives from the following site.

http://www.technical-assistance.co.uk/kb/usbmsd98.php

Now my thumb drives work but my usb internet connection no longer does. I
get an error saying that the hardware is either not plugged in or the
drivers
need updating. Which is not the case. Also, i am getting an error in
"ACPI
Battery" in my device manager. It says that the NTKERN.VXD is not
loading
the proper drivers. Both of these problems began only after i installed
the
usb drivers from the above mentioned site.

Anyone have any solutions?
Thanks

The web page gives links to Win98FE and Win98SE driver packages, and
instructions
on
how to tell which you have. Which operating system do you have, Win98FE or
Win98SE?

Which driver set did you download and install?

Did you install version 2.x or version 3.x of the driver set, if using
Win98SE?
(Only version 2.x of the driver is needed if there is no USB 2.0 controller
on
your
system)

Did you install the "unofficial service pack", if using Win98FE? (Some
users
have
had success without installing that pack, others must use it)

Do you have a USB 2.0 controller or are the computer's ports all USB 1.1?

Is it a laptop or a desktop computer?


You also do not state what type of Internet connection you have, and what
USB
device
you are using for Internet, and why you are not using a network interface
card
(NIC)
instead.

What is the exact name of the entry in Device Manager with the problem?
What is the Code number shown for the problem in the properties of the
device
there?

The best place to get help with those unsupported drivers is he
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=43605

There are 23 pages of posts in that thread...read through them quickly for
similar
issues, or post a question in reply to that thread.

There is no support we can give for those drivers here, and little support
is
provided by the makers of the driver set.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm







  #16  
Old January 31st 09, 12:38 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
Rich newtech[_2_]
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 26
Default usb drives fr win98

I also used a free language translator i found on line. Even though all of
the words did not make sense i got the gist.

Thank you very much this worked for me. So far everthing is working fine
with no error messages. yet!!!

Thanks again.
Richard

"glee" wrote:

FWIW = For What It's Worth.

Although the pages are in Italian, you can look at the screenshots on some of the
pages to determine how the driver is installed and uninstalled:
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98.html
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_2.html
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_3.html
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_4.html
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_5.html
The Download link is the "Download" button on the last page.
http://www.wintricks.it/download/wtgenusb.zip

Basically, you download the driver package (.zip file), and unzip it to a folder
where you plan to store it on the computer. Then when you insert your flash drive,
Windows will detect it and give you the option to find the driver. Choose to have
it look in the folder where you unzipped the downloaded files, and it will see the
..inf file there and install your flash drive. Voila!
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm


"Rich newtech" wrote in message
...
I was unable to remove from the "add/remove" progams so i'm just going to
re-install the os. What does FWIW mean? Also, thanks for the new link. I'll
try those drivers after i get my internet connection. I would try to find an
ethernet pccard but again i am trying to fix this for my brother and he was
going to throw it away. I'm already into if for $65 for parts not counting
about a week's worth of time trying to get it done. Then another $30 to ship
it back to him (he's in georgia and i'm in CA)So i'm not ready to spend any
more on it. Plus i think he is going to have "dial up" so he'll be able to us
the pc card. It gets to a point when it will make more sense for him to get a
newer used machine close to where he is. But thanks for the help. Hopefully
this will solve the problem.

Thanks again for your help
Richard

"glee" wrote:

FWIW, and again not related to the main issue....you can use a PCCard network
card
(Ethernet adapter) in the PCCard slot of the laptop for Ethernet. The problem
would
be finding one that still provided Win98 drivers!

I suggest you look in Add/Remove Programs for entries to uninstall the unofficial
service pack you installed and also for the USB driver you installed, and
uninstall
both. If that is not an option, then wipe out and reload clean once again so you
can start over with a different USB driver for the thumb drive.

There is a driver you can try at wintricks.it The info for the driver is in
Italian, but it is a simple process to use it if you want to try that instead,
after
the "service pack" and generic driver you tried are gone, and you have verified
that
your Battery entry is back to normal, and the USB Internet connection is working
again.

I can try to walk you through the process of using this driver after you get the
system back to its original working state. It is not installed beforehand like
the
one you tried, rather you point to it when Windows first detects the inserted
thumb
drive, as you can see from the pictures on the web pages, even if you cannot read
Italian.
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98.html
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm


"Rich newtech" wrote in message
...
Yes, that has nothing to do with my problem. But i'll answer it anyway. The
computer is from 1998 and it does not have an eathernet connection. I have
dsl but this computer has no way of connecting to that because it uses
eathernet. That is why i used the adaptor to connect to the usb port. I use
to connect to the internet (10 years ago) with this computer via a phone jack
line. I have a 56k modem pc card that i install in the laptop. So the problem
is that the usb drives that i installed are not compatable or override the
drives for the trendnet adaptor and have an effect on the ACPI battery in my
device manager. That is what i need to correct if possible.

I hope that cleared up why i am trying to use the usb port for the internet.
Also, let me be clear that this connection worked fine prior to installing
the usb drivers i referred to in my first post.

"glee" wrote:

Replies inline...
"Rich newtech" wrote in message
...
Let me try to answer all of your questions. First this is an old laptop that
i just replaced the hard drive and there is no information that i need to
keep. I am trying to fix it for my brother. It is 98FE and is running on a
toshiba satellite laptop. I am not using an NIC because i do not have a
phone
line internet connection. So i am using a TRENDnet adaptor which allows for
an ethernet connection using the usb port.

OK, this has nothing to do with your USB issue, but what you stated about not
using
a NIC makes no sense to me. A NIC is a network card; it has absolutely
nothing
to
do with a phone line. What type of Internet connection is it...cable or ADSL?
Normally, if you have a network card installed or an Ethernet port built into
the
motherboard, you would use that to connect to your cable modem or ADSL modem
(or
router), if you want a much more reliable connection than using a USB adapter
device. Is there a network card installed? If so, switch your Internet
connection
to Ethernet and forget about the USB device.


I tried installing the service pack and then loading the usb drivers after
which i noticed the problems with loss of internet connection and "ACPI
battery" (this is the line item in the device manager. It is a code 10 which
says that the NTKERN.VXD is not loading the proper drivers.

That "service pack" is a mix of system files from different operating systems,
and I
would not personally use it without *expecting* problems to arise, such as
yours.
I
would sooner buy a used Win98SE disc and upgrade from Win98FE, than install
this
unoffical service pack.


So i re-installed the os and started over. The same problems occured only
after i loaded the drivers.

....but it all works correctly before you install the generic USB driver?
Curious....how are you reinstalling the OS? Are you using the recovery or
reload
CD
for that model Toshiba laptop, so that all the drivers for that hardware is
properly
installed? Or are you installing with a retail Win98 disc and not loading any
of
the Toshiba-specific drivers or power management utilities?


I would like to know if there is a fix to make the drivers compatible or how
can i isolate them so i can remove them to try some other drivers.

I don't know how you uninstall the "service pack". I would hope there is an
uninstall entry for it in Control Panel Add/Remove Programs. There should be
an
entry there for uninstalling the Maximus Decim Generic USB Driver.


I beieve that i have usb 1.1.

Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks

--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm


"glee" wrote:

"Rich newtech" wrote in message
...
I tried downloading the usb drives from the following site.

http://www.technical-assistance.co.uk/kb/usbmsd98.php

Now my thumb drives work but my usb internet connection no longer does. I
get an error saying that the hardware is either not plugged in or the
drivers
need updating. Which is not the case. Also, i am getting an error in
"ACPI
Battery" in my device manager. It says that the NTKERN.VXD is not
loading
the proper drivers. Both of these problems began only after i installed
the
usb drivers from the above mentioned site.

Anyone have any solutions?
Thanks

The web page gives links to Win98FE and Win98SE driver packages, and
instructions
on
how to tell which you have. Which operating system do you have, Win98FE or
Win98SE?

Which driver set did you download and install?

Did you install version 2.x or version 3.x of the driver set, if using
Win98SE?
(Only version 2.x of the driver is needed if there is no USB 2.0 controller
on
your
system)

Did you install the "unofficial service pack", if using Win98FE? (Some
users
have
had success without installing that pack, others must use it)

Do you have a USB 2.0 controller or are the computer's ports all USB 1.1?

Is it a laptop or a desktop computer?


You also do not state what type of Internet connection you have, and what
USB
device
you are using for Internet, and why you are not using a network interface
card
(NIC)
instead.

What is the exact name of the entry in Device Manager with the problem?
What is the Code number shown for the problem in the properties of the
device
there?

The best place to get help with those unsupported drivers is he
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=43605

There are 23 pages of posts in that thread...read through them quickly for
similar
issues, or post a question in reply to that thread.

There is no support we can give for those drivers here, and little support
is
provided by the makers of the driver set.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm








  #17  
Old January 31st 09, 12:38 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
Rich newtech[_2_]
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 26
Default usb drives fr win98

I also used a free language translator i found on line. Even though all of
the words did not make sense i got the gist.

Thank you very much this worked for me. So far everthing is working fine
with no error messages. yet!!!

Thanks again.
Richard

"glee" wrote:

FWIW = For What It's Worth.

Although the pages are in Italian, you can look at the screenshots on some of the
pages to determine how the driver is installed and uninstalled:
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98.html
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_2.html
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_3.html
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_4.html
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_5.html
The Download link is the "Download" button on the last page.
http://www.wintricks.it/download/wtgenusb.zip

Basically, you download the driver package (.zip file), and unzip it to a folder
where you plan to store it on the computer. Then when you insert your flash drive,
Windows will detect it and give you the option to find the driver. Choose to have
it look in the folder where you unzipped the downloaded files, and it will see the
..inf file there and install your flash drive. Voila!
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm


"Rich newtech" wrote in message
...
I was unable to remove from the "add/remove" progams so i'm just going to
re-install the os. What does FWIW mean? Also, thanks for the new link. I'll
try those drivers after i get my internet connection. I would try to find an
ethernet pccard but again i am trying to fix this for my brother and he was
going to throw it away. I'm already into if for $65 for parts not counting
about a week's worth of time trying to get it done. Then another $30 to ship
it back to him (he's in georgia and i'm in CA)So i'm not ready to spend any
more on it. Plus i think he is going to have "dial up" so he'll be able to us
the pc card. It gets to a point when it will make more sense for him to get a
newer used machine close to where he is. But thanks for the help. Hopefully
this will solve the problem.

Thanks again for your help
Richard

"glee" wrote:

FWIW, and again not related to the main issue....you can use a PCCard network
card
(Ethernet adapter) in the PCCard slot of the laptop for Ethernet. The problem
would
be finding one that still provided Win98 drivers!

I suggest you look in Add/Remove Programs for entries to uninstall the unofficial
service pack you installed and also for the USB driver you installed, and
uninstall
both. If that is not an option, then wipe out and reload clean once again so you
can start over with a different USB driver for the thumb drive.

There is a driver you can try at wintricks.it The info for the driver is in
Italian, but it is a simple process to use it if you want to try that instead,
after
the "service pack" and generic driver you tried are gone, and you have verified
that
your Battery entry is back to normal, and the USB Internet connection is working
again.

I can try to walk you through the process of using this driver after you get the
system back to its original working state. It is not installed beforehand like
the
one you tried, rather you point to it when Windows first detects the inserted
thumb
drive, as you can see from the pictures on the web pages, even if you cannot read
Italian.
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98.html
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm


"Rich newtech" wrote in message
...
Yes, that has nothing to do with my problem. But i'll answer it anyway. The
computer is from 1998 and it does not have an eathernet connection. I have
dsl but this computer has no way of connecting to that because it uses
eathernet. That is why i used the adaptor to connect to the usb port. I use
to connect to the internet (10 years ago) with this computer via a phone jack
line. I have a 56k modem pc card that i install in the laptop. So the problem
is that the usb drives that i installed are not compatable or override the
drives for the trendnet adaptor and have an effect on the ACPI battery in my
device manager. That is what i need to correct if possible.

I hope that cleared up why i am trying to use the usb port for the internet.
Also, let me be clear that this connection worked fine prior to installing
the usb drivers i referred to in my first post.

"glee" wrote:

Replies inline...
"Rich newtech" wrote in message
...
Let me try to answer all of your questions. First this is an old laptop that
i just replaced the hard drive and there is no information that i need to
keep. I am trying to fix it for my brother. It is 98FE and is running on a
toshiba satellite laptop. I am not using an NIC because i do not have a
phone
line internet connection. So i am using a TRENDnet adaptor which allows for
an ethernet connection using the usb port.

OK, this has nothing to do with your USB issue, but what you stated about not
using
a NIC makes no sense to me. A NIC is a network card; it has absolutely
nothing
to
do with a phone line. What type of Internet connection is it...cable or ADSL?
Normally, if you have a network card installed or an Ethernet port built into
the
motherboard, you would use that to connect to your cable modem or ADSL modem
(or
router), if you want a much more reliable connection than using a USB adapter
device. Is there a network card installed? If so, switch your Internet
connection
to Ethernet and forget about the USB device.


I tried installing the service pack and then loading the usb drivers after
which i noticed the problems with loss of internet connection and "ACPI
battery" (this is the line item in the device manager. It is a code 10 which
says that the NTKERN.VXD is not loading the proper drivers.

That "service pack" is a mix of system files from different operating systems,
and I
would not personally use it without *expecting* problems to arise, such as
yours.
I
would sooner buy a used Win98SE disc and upgrade from Win98FE, than install
this
unoffical service pack.


So i re-installed the os and started over. The same problems occured only
after i loaded the drivers.

....but it all works correctly before you install the generic USB driver?
Curious....how are you reinstalling the OS? Are you using the recovery or
reload
CD
for that model Toshiba laptop, so that all the drivers for that hardware is
properly
installed? Or are you installing with a retail Win98 disc and not loading any
of
the Toshiba-specific drivers or power management utilities?


I would like to know if there is a fix to make the drivers compatible or how
can i isolate them so i can remove them to try some other drivers.

I don't know how you uninstall the "service pack". I would hope there is an
uninstall entry for it in Control Panel Add/Remove Programs. There should be
an
entry there for uninstalling the Maximus Decim Generic USB Driver.


I beieve that i have usb 1.1.

Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks

--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm


"glee" wrote:

"Rich newtech" wrote in message
...
I tried downloading the usb drives from the following site.

http://www.technical-assistance.co.uk/kb/usbmsd98.php

Now my thumb drives work but my usb internet connection no longer does. I
get an error saying that the hardware is either not plugged in or the
drivers
need updating. Which is not the case. Also, i am getting an error in
"ACPI
Battery" in my device manager. It says that the NTKERN.VXD is not
loading
the proper drivers. Both of these problems began only after i installed
the
usb drivers from the above mentioned site.

Anyone have any solutions?
Thanks

The web page gives links to Win98FE and Win98SE driver packages, and
instructions
on
how to tell which you have. Which operating system do you have, Win98FE or
Win98SE?

Which driver set did you download and install?

Did you install version 2.x or version 3.x of the driver set, if using
Win98SE?
(Only version 2.x of the driver is needed if there is no USB 2.0 controller
on
your
system)

Did you install the "unofficial service pack", if using Win98FE? (Some
users
have
had success without installing that pack, others must use it)

Do you have a USB 2.0 controller or are the computer's ports all USB 1.1?

Is it a laptop or a desktop computer?


You also do not state what type of Internet connection you have, and what
USB
device
you are using for Internet, and why you are not using a network interface
card
(NIC)
instead.

What is the exact name of the entry in Device Manager with the problem?
What is the Code number shown for the problem in the properties of the
device
there?

The best place to get help with those unsupported drivers is he
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=43605

There are 23 pages of posts in that thread...read through them quickly for
similar
issues, or post a question in reply to that thread.

There is no support we can give for those drivers here, and little support
is
provided by the makers of the driver set.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm








  #18  
Old January 31st 09, 04:22 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
glee
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 2,458
Default usb drives fr win98

Good news, and good to know!
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm


"Rich newtech" wrote in message
...
I also used a free language translator i found on line. Even though all of
the words did not make sense i got the gist.

Thank you very much this worked for me. So far everthing is working fine
with no error messages. yet!!!

Thanks again.
Richard

"glee" wrote:

FWIW = For What It's Worth.

Although the pages are in Italian, you can look at the screenshots on some of the
pages to determine how the driver is installed and uninstalled:
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98.html
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_2.html
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_3.html
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_4.html
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_5.html
The Download link is the "Download" button on the last page.
http://www.wintricks.it/download/wtgenusb.zip

Basically, you download the driver package (.zip file), and unzip it to a folder
where you plan to store it on the computer. Then when you insert your flash
drive,
Windows will detect it and give you the option to find the driver. Choose to
have
it look in the folder where you unzipped the downloaded files, and it will see
the
..inf file there and install your flash drive. Voila!
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm


"Rich newtech" wrote in message
...
I was unable to remove from the "add/remove" progams so i'm just going to
re-install the os. What does FWIW mean? Also, thanks for the new link. I'll
try those drivers after i get my internet connection. I would try to find an
ethernet pccard but again i am trying to fix this for my brother and he was
going to throw it away. I'm already into if for $65 for parts not counting
about a week's worth of time trying to get it done. Then another $30 to ship
it back to him (he's in georgia and i'm in CA)So i'm not ready to spend any
more on it. Plus i think he is going to have "dial up" so he'll be able to us
the pc card. It gets to a point when it will make more sense for him to get a
newer used machine close to where he is. But thanks for the help. Hopefully
this will solve the problem.

Thanks again for your help
Richard

"glee" wrote:

FWIW, and again not related to the main issue....you can use a PCCard network
card
(Ethernet adapter) in the PCCard slot of the laptop for Ethernet. The problem
would
be finding one that still provided Win98 drivers!

I suggest you look in Add/Remove Programs for entries to uninstall the
unofficial
service pack you installed and also for the USB driver you installed, and
uninstall
both. If that is not an option, then wipe out and reload clean once again so
you
can start over with a different USB driver for the thumb drive.

There is a driver you can try at wintricks.it The info for the driver is in
Italian, but it is a simple process to use it if you want to try that instead,
after
the "service pack" and generic driver you tried are gone, and you have
verified
that
your Battery entry is back to normal, and the USB Internet connection is
working
again.

I can try to walk you through the process of using this driver after you get
the
system back to its original working state. It is not installed beforehand
like
the
one you tried, rather you point to it when Windows first detects the inserted
thumb
drive, as you can see from the pictures on the web pages, even if you cannot
read
Italian.
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98.html
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm


"Rich newtech" wrote in message
...
Yes, that has nothing to do with my problem. But i'll answer it anyway. The
computer is from 1998 and it does not have an eathernet connection. I have
dsl but this computer has no way of connecting to that because it uses
eathernet. That is why i used the adaptor to connect to the usb port. I use
to connect to the internet (10 years ago) with this computer via a phone
jack
line. I have a 56k modem pc card that i install in the laptop. So the
problem
is that the usb drives that i installed are not compatable or override the
drives for the trendnet adaptor and have an effect on the ACPI battery in my
device manager. That is what i need to correct if possible.

I hope that cleared up why i am trying to use the usb port for the internet.
Also, let me be clear that this connection worked fine prior to installing
the usb drivers i referred to in my first post.

"glee" wrote:

Replies inline...
"Rich newtech" wrote in message
...
Let me try to answer all of your questions. First this is an old laptop
that
i just replaced the hard drive and there is no information that i need to
keep. I am trying to fix it for my brother. It is 98FE and is running on
a
toshiba satellite laptop. I am not using an NIC because i do not have a
phone
line internet connection. So i am using a TRENDnet adaptor which allows
for
an ethernet connection using the usb port.

OK, this has nothing to do with your USB issue, but what you stated about
not
using
a NIC makes no sense to me. A NIC is a network card; it has absolutely
nothing
to
do with a phone line. What type of Internet connection is it...cable or
ADSL?
Normally, if you have a network card installed or an Ethernet port built
into
the
motherboard, you would use that to connect to your cable modem or ADSL
modem
(or
router), if you want a much more reliable connection than using a USB
adapter
device. Is there a network card installed? If so, switch your Internet
connection
to Ethernet and forget about the USB device.


I tried installing the service pack and then loading the usb drivers
after
which i noticed the problems with loss of internet connection and "ACPI
battery" (this is the line item in the device manager. It is a code 10
which
says that the NTKERN.VXD is not loading the proper drivers.

That "service pack" is a mix of system files from different operating
systems,
and I
would not personally use it without *expecting* problems to arise, such as
yours.
I
would sooner buy a used Win98SE disc and upgrade from Win98FE, than install
this
unoffical service pack.


So i re-installed the os and started over. The same problems occured only
after i loaded the drivers.

....but it all works correctly before you install the generic USB driver?
Curious....how are you reinstalling the OS? Are you using the recovery or
reload
CD
for that model Toshiba laptop, so that all the drivers for that hardware is
properly
installed? Or are you installing with a retail Win98 disc and not loading
any
of
the Toshiba-specific drivers or power management utilities?


I would like to know if there is a fix to make the drivers compatible or
how
can i isolate them so i can remove them to try some other drivers.

I don't know how you uninstall the "service pack". I would hope there is
an
uninstall entry for it in Control Panel Add/Remove Programs. There should
be
an
entry there for uninstalling the Maximus Decim Generic USB Driver.


I beieve that i have usb 1.1.

Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks

--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm


"glee" wrote:

"Rich newtech" wrote in message
...
I tried downloading the usb drives from the following site.

http://www.technical-assistance.co.uk/kb/usbmsd98.php

Now my thumb drives work but my usb internet connection no longer
does. I
get an error saying that the hardware is either not plugged in or the
drivers
need updating. Which is not the case. Also, i am getting an error in
"ACPI
Battery" in my device manager. It says that the NTKERN.VXD is not
loading
the proper drivers. Both of these problems began only after i
installed
the
usb drivers from the above mentioned site.

Anyone have any solutions?
Thanks

The web page gives links to Win98FE and Win98SE driver packages, and
instructions
on
how to tell which you have. Which operating system do you have, Win98FE
or
Win98SE?

Which driver set did you download and install?

Did you install version 2.x or version 3.x of the driver set, if using
Win98SE?
(Only version 2.x of the driver is needed if there is no USB 2.0
controller
on
your
system)

Did you install the "unofficial service pack", if using Win98FE? (Some
users
have
had success without installing that pack, others must use it)

Do you have a USB 2.0 controller or are the computer's ports all USB
1.1?

Is it a laptop or a desktop computer?


You also do not state what type of Internet connection you have, and
what
USB
device
you are using for Internet, and why you are not using a network
interface
card
(NIC)
instead.

What is the exact name of the entry in Device Manager with the problem?
What is the Code number shown for the problem in the properties of the
device
there?

The best place to get help with those unsupported drivers is he
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=43605

There are 23 pages of posts in that thread...read through them quickly
for
similar
issues, or post a question in reply to that thread.

There is no support we can give for those drivers here, and little
support
is
provided by the makers of the driver set.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm









  #19  
Old January 31st 09, 04:22 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
glee
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 2,458
Default usb drives fr win98

Good news, and good to know!
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm


"Rich newtech" wrote in message
...
I also used a free language translator i found on line. Even though all of
the words did not make sense i got the gist.

Thank you very much this worked for me. So far everthing is working fine
with no error messages. yet!!!

Thanks again.
Richard

"glee" wrote:

FWIW = For What It's Worth.

Although the pages are in Italian, you can look at the screenshots on some of the
pages to determine how the driver is installed and uninstalled:
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98.html
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_2.html
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_3.html
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_4.html
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98_5.html
The Download link is the "Download" button on the last page.
http://www.wintricks.it/download/wtgenusb.zip

Basically, you download the driver package (.zip file), and unzip it to a folder
where you plan to store it on the computer. Then when you insert your flash
drive,
Windows will detect it and give you the option to find the driver. Choose to
have
it look in the folder where you unzipped the downloaded files, and it will see
the
..inf file there and install your flash drive. Voila!
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm


"Rich newtech" wrote in message
...
I was unable to remove from the "add/remove" progams so i'm just going to
re-install the os. What does FWIW mean? Also, thanks for the new link. I'll
try those drivers after i get my internet connection. I would try to find an
ethernet pccard but again i am trying to fix this for my brother and he was
going to throw it away. I'm already into if for $65 for parts not counting
about a week's worth of time trying to get it done. Then another $30 to ship
it back to him (he's in georgia and i'm in CA)So i'm not ready to spend any
more on it. Plus i think he is going to have "dial up" so he'll be able to us
the pc card. It gets to a point when it will make more sense for him to get a
newer used machine close to where he is. But thanks for the help. Hopefully
this will solve the problem.

Thanks again for your help
Richard

"glee" wrote:

FWIW, and again not related to the main issue....you can use a PCCard network
card
(Ethernet adapter) in the PCCard slot of the laptop for Ethernet. The problem
would
be finding one that still provided Win98 drivers!

I suggest you look in Add/Remove Programs for entries to uninstall the
unofficial
service pack you installed and also for the USB driver you installed, and
uninstall
both. If that is not an option, then wipe out and reload clean once again so
you
can start over with a different USB driver for the thumb drive.

There is a driver you can try at wintricks.it The info for the driver is in
Italian, but it is a simple process to use it if you want to try that instead,
after
the "service pack" and generic driver you tried are gone, and you have
verified
that
your Battery entry is back to normal, and the USB Internet connection is
working
again.

I can try to walk you through the process of using this driver after you get
the
system back to its original working state. It is not installed beforehand
like
the
one you tried, rather you point to it when Windows first detects the inserted
thumb
drive, as you can see from the pictures on the web pages, even if you cannot
read
Italian.
http://www.wintricks.it/faq/usbpen98.html
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm


"Rich newtech" wrote in message
...
Yes, that has nothing to do with my problem. But i'll answer it anyway. The
computer is from 1998 and it does not have an eathernet connection. I have
dsl but this computer has no way of connecting to that because it uses
eathernet. That is why i used the adaptor to connect to the usb port. I use
to connect to the internet (10 years ago) with this computer via a phone
jack
line. I have a 56k modem pc card that i install in the laptop. So the
problem
is that the usb drives that i installed are not compatable or override the
drives for the trendnet adaptor and have an effect on the ACPI battery in my
device manager. That is what i need to correct if possible.

I hope that cleared up why i am trying to use the usb port for the internet.
Also, let me be clear that this connection worked fine prior to installing
the usb drivers i referred to in my first post.

"glee" wrote:

Replies inline...
"Rich newtech" wrote in message
...
Let me try to answer all of your questions. First this is an old laptop
that
i just replaced the hard drive and there is no information that i need to
keep. I am trying to fix it for my brother. It is 98FE and is running on
a
toshiba satellite laptop. I am not using an NIC because i do not have a
phone
line internet connection. So i am using a TRENDnet adaptor which allows
for
an ethernet connection using the usb port.

OK, this has nothing to do with your USB issue, but what you stated about
not
using
a NIC makes no sense to me. A NIC is a network card; it has absolutely
nothing
to
do with a phone line. What type of Internet connection is it...cable or
ADSL?
Normally, if you have a network card installed or an Ethernet port built
into
the
motherboard, you would use that to connect to your cable modem or ADSL
modem
(or
router), if you want a much more reliable connection than using a USB
adapter
device. Is there a network card installed? If so, switch your Internet
connection
to Ethernet and forget about the USB device.


I tried installing the service pack and then loading the usb drivers
after
which i noticed the problems with loss of internet connection and "ACPI
battery" (this is the line item in the device manager. It is a code 10
which
says that the NTKERN.VXD is not loading the proper drivers.

That "service pack" is a mix of system files from different operating
systems,
and I
would not personally use it without *expecting* problems to arise, such as
yours.
I
would sooner buy a used Win98SE disc and upgrade from Win98FE, than install
this
unoffical service pack.


So i re-installed the os and started over. The same problems occured only
after i loaded the drivers.

....but it all works correctly before you install the generic USB driver?
Curious....how are you reinstalling the OS? Are you using the recovery or
reload
CD
for that model Toshiba laptop, so that all the drivers for that hardware is
properly
installed? Or are you installing with a retail Win98 disc and not loading
any
of
the Toshiba-specific drivers or power management utilities?


I would like to know if there is a fix to make the drivers compatible or
how
can i isolate them so i can remove them to try some other drivers.

I don't know how you uninstall the "service pack". I would hope there is
an
uninstall entry for it in Control Panel Add/Remove Programs. There should
be
an
entry there for uninstalling the Maximus Decim Generic USB Driver.


I beieve that i have usb 1.1.

Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks

--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm


"glee" wrote:

"Rich newtech" wrote in message
...
I tried downloading the usb drives from the following site.

http://www.technical-assistance.co.uk/kb/usbmsd98.php

Now my thumb drives work but my usb internet connection no longer
does. I
get an error saying that the hardware is either not plugged in or the
drivers
need updating. Which is not the case. Also, i am getting an error in
"ACPI
Battery" in my device manager. It says that the NTKERN.VXD is not
loading
the proper drivers. Both of these problems began only after i
installed
the
usb drivers from the above mentioned site.

Anyone have any solutions?
Thanks

The web page gives links to Win98FE and Win98SE driver packages, and
instructions
on
how to tell which you have. Which operating system do you have, Win98FE
or
Win98SE?

Which driver set did you download and install?

Did you install version 2.x or version 3.x of the driver set, if using
Win98SE?
(Only version 2.x of the driver is needed if there is no USB 2.0
controller
on
your
system)

Did you install the "unofficial service pack", if using Win98FE? (Some
users
have
had success without installing that pack, others must use it)

Do you have a USB 2.0 controller or are the computer's ports all USB
1.1?

Is it a laptop or a desktop computer?


You also do not state what type of Internet connection you have, and
what
USB
device
you are using for Internet, and why you are not using a network
interface
card
(NIC)
instead.

What is the exact name of the entry in Device Manager with the problem?
What is the Code number shown for the problem in the properties of the
device
there?

The best place to get help with those unsupported drivers is he
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=43605

There are 23 pages of posts in that thread...read through them quickly
for
similar
issues, or post a question in reply to that thread.

There is no support we can give for those drivers here, and little
support
is
provided by the makers of the driver set.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm









  #20  
Old January 31st 09, 01:27 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
J. P. Gilliver (John)
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 1,554
Default usb drives fr win98

In message , Rich
newtech writes:
I was unable to remove from the "add/remove" progams so i'm just going to
re-install the os. What does FWIW mean? Also, thanks for the new link. I'll
try those drivers after i get my internet connection. I would try to find an
ethernet pccard but again i am trying to fix this for my brother and he was
going to throw it away. I'm already into if for $65 for parts not counting
about a week's worth of time trying to get it done. Then another $30 to ship
it back to him (he's in georgia and i'm in CA)So i'm not ready to spend any
more on it. Plus i think he is going to have "dial up" so he'll be able to us
the pc card. It gets to a point when it will make more sense for him to get a
newer used machine close to where he is. But thanks for the help. Hopefully
this will solve the problem.

[]
(FWIW=for what it's worth.) IME (in my experience), the universal USB
drivers you had (the "Maximus Decim Generic USB Driver") can cause
problems if installed on a system which already has drivers for USB
devices on it (I've even had it break Windows altogether). Conversely,
I've installed it as more or less the first thing on a newly-rebuilt
machine (one I bought for 75 pounds - for a friend who wanted one -
which had just more or less had the OS installed), and it works fine. If
I rebuild a system from scratch, I might use it. Though I'd be more
likely to use soporific's UBCD alis "Windows 98 tenth anniversary
edition" - I've built two machines from scratch using that and it is
good, I've only had problems with trying to use it on an existing system
- and that has a universal USB driver included; I'm not sure if it's the
Maximus Decim one, though I think it is.

Though having said that, I'm pleased to see you managed to get things
sorted with the Italian-based one glee pointed you too, which I'm now
going to look at: I like the idea of one that _doesn't_ have to be
installed first, as it were.
--
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** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously
outdated thoughts on PCs. **

"When I was young I used to scintillate
now I only sin 'til ten past three" (Ogden Nash) [via Andy Breen]
 




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