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Re-installing W98SE
"Ron Badour" wrote: Your description suggests a system problem rather than hardware so a reinstall is in order. Do not attempt to do an install over the existing system--format the partition and do a clean install. The only possible risk is if you don't have the drivers for your hardware. The drivers might be included if you have a restore disk. Or, you might have other disks with drivers. Or, you might have to determine what specific hardware you have and get drivers from the internet. For information on installing W98, go to: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/w98_restore.html (same site that Don recommends) -- Regards Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98 Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour Knowledge Base Info: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo "David" wrote in message ... I have two computers: a new one running XP; and an old one running 98SE. I've just about got everything I need off the old one, and onto the new one. The older one has serious problems. It may be hardware, but the symptoms appear as a non-functioning Windows Explorer. I can't use it. And any time a program tries to use it, the computer crashes. I know, I could give you more details about the crashes, but what I really want to know is this: I'm a legal user of W98SE. I have my original W98SE CD. Can I uninstall W98SE and re-install it from my CD? What are the risks? What safeguard procedures should I follow? Thanks Ron. I've sent the following message to Don, too. I haven't, yet, done the re-install and I'm still looking for alternatives. Before I do this, remembering the problem appears to inside Windows Explorer, if I up-graded to Windows NT, might that serve my purpose? I don't want to loose programs nor user files associated with, or running under W98SE... for example Quicken 2000. If I up-dated to NT, instead of re-installing W98, a). would I be able to up-grade to NT while my Win98 Windows Explorer is U/S?...and...b). would the up-grade install a new Windows Explorer component, or use the older one? Thanks David |
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"David" wrote in message
... I have two computers: a new one running XP; and an old one running 98SE. I've just about got everything I need off the old one, and onto the new one. The older one has serious problems. It may be hardware, but the symptoms appear as a non-functioning Windows Explorer. I can't use it. And any time a program tries to use it, the computer crashes. . . . CD. Can I uninstall W98SE and re-install it from my CD? What are the risks? What safeguard procedures should I follow? "Ron Badour" wrote: Your description suggests a system problem rather than hardware so a reinstall is in order. Do not attempt to do an install over the existing system--format the partition and do a clean install. The only possible risk is if you don't have the drivers for your hardware. The drivers might be included if you have a restore disk. Or, you might have other disks with drivers. Or, you might have to determine what specific hardware you have and get drivers from the internet. For information on installing W98, go to: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/w98_restore.html (same site that Don recommends) Thanks Ron. I've sent the following message to Don, too. I haven't, yet, done the re-install and I'm still looking for alternatives. Before I do this, remembering the problem appears to inside Windows Explorer, if I up-graded to Windows NT, might that serve my purpose? I don't want to loose programs nor user files associated with, or running under W98SE... for example Quicken 2000. If I up-dated to NT, instead of re-installing W98, a). would I be able to up-grade to NT while my Win98 Windows Explorer is U/S?...and...b). would the up-grade install a new Windows Explorer component, or use the older one? 1. Since you have transferred to your XP PC almost everything you need, better follow RB's advice and reformat and reinstal from scratch. 2. Alternatively, since hard drives are now so cheap, you could fit a new HD as C:\ and instal to that (see instructions at RB's web site). Then your old drive will become D: (automatically since your FDISK made it Primary DOS) and you can copy from it anything you really need. 3. You will however need also to reinstal all your user apps, and perhaps update them as well. The point is that you do not know whether your problem is caused by Registry errors. When over-installing you may choose to reuse the old Registry or create a new one from scratch. Most mavens think it is simply too risky to reuse old Registries. -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) and then |
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"David" wrote in message
... I have two computers: a new one running XP; and an old one running 98SE. I've just about got everything I need off the old one, and onto the new one. The older one has serious problems. It may be hardware, but the symptoms appear as a non-functioning Windows Explorer. I can't use it. And any time a program tries to use it, the computer crashes. . . . CD. Can I uninstall W98SE and re-install it from my CD? What are the risks? What safeguard procedures should I follow? "Ron Badour" wrote: Your description suggests a system problem rather than hardware so a reinstall is in order. Do not attempt to do an install over the existing system--format the partition and do a clean install. The only possible risk is if you don't have the drivers for your hardware. The drivers might be included if you have a restore disk. Or, you might have other disks with drivers. Or, you might have to determine what specific hardware you have and get drivers from the internet. For information on installing W98, go to: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/w98_restore.html (same site that Don recommends) Thanks Ron. I've sent the following message to Don, too. I haven't, yet, done the re-install and I'm still looking for alternatives. Before I do this, remembering the problem appears to inside Windows Explorer, if I up-graded to Windows NT, might that serve my purpose? I don't want to loose programs nor user files associated with, or running under W98SE... for example Quicken 2000. If I up-dated to NT, instead of re-installing W98, a). would I be able to up-grade to NT while my Win98 Windows Explorer is U/S?...and...b). would the up-grade install a new Windows Explorer component, or use the older one? 1. Since you have transferred to your XP PC almost everything you need, better follow RB's advice and reformat and reinstal from scratch. 2. Alternatively, since hard drives are now so cheap, you could fit a new HD as C:\ and instal to that (see instructions at RB's web site). Then your old drive will become D: (automatically since your FDISK made it Primary DOS) and you can copy from it anything you really need. 3. You will however need also to reinstal all your user apps, and perhaps update them as well. The point is that you do not know whether your problem is caused by Registry errors. When over-installing you may choose to reuse the old Registry or create a new one from scratch. Most mavens think it is simply too risky to reuse old Registries. -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) and then |
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Re-installing W98SE
I don't know if it is even possible to upgrade to NT over W98. I have never
supported nor used NT. -- Regards Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98 Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour Knowledge Base Info: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo "David" wrote in message news "Ron Badour" wrote: Your description suggests a system problem rather than hardware so a reinstall is in order. Do not attempt to do an install over the existing system--format the partition and do a clean install. The only possible risk is if you don't have the drivers for your hardware. The drivers might be included if you have a restore disk. Or, you might have other disks with drivers. Or, you might have to determine what specific hardware you have and get drivers from the internet. For information on installing W98, go to: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/w98_restore.html (same site that Don recommends) -- Regards Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98 Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour Knowledge Base Info: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo "David" wrote in message ... I have two computers: a new one running XP; and an old one running 98SE. I've just about got everything I need off the old one, and onto the new one. The older one has serious problems. It may be hardware, but the symptoms appear as a non-functioning Windows Explorer. I can't use it. And any time a program tries to use it, the computer crashes. I know, I could give you more details about the crashes, but what I really want to know is this: I'm a legal user of W98SE. I have my original W98SE CD. Can I uninstall W98SE and re-install it from my CD? What are the risks? What safeguard procedures should I follow? Thanks Ron. I've sent the following message to Don, too. I haven't, yet, done the re-install and I'm still looking for alternatives. Before I do this, remembering the problem appears to inside Windows Explorer, if I up-graded to Windows NT, might that serve my purpose? I don't want to loose programs nor user files associated with, or running under W98SE... for example Quicken 2000. If I up-dated to NT, instead of re-installing W98, a). would I be able to up-grade to NT while my Win98 Windows Explorer is U/S?...and...b). would the up-grade install a new Windows Explorer component, or use the older one? Thanks David |
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Re-installing W98SE
I don't know if it is even possible to upgrade to NT over W98. I have never
supported nor used NT. -- Regards Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98 Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour Knowledge Base Info: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo "David" wrote in message news "Ron Badour" wrote: Your description suggests a system problem rather than hardware so a reinstall is in order. Do not attempt to do an install over the existing system--format the partition and do a clean install. The only possible risk is if you don't have the drivers for your hardware. The drivers might be included if you have a restore disk. Or, you might have other disks with drivers. Or, you might have to determine what specific hardware you have and get drivers from the internet. For information on installing W98, go to: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/w98_restore.html (same site that Don recommends) -- Regards Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98 Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour Knowledge Base Info: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo "David" wrote in message ... I have two computers: a new one running XP; and an old one running 98SE. I've just about got everything I need off the old one, and onto the new one. The older one has serious problems. It may be hardware, but the symptoms appear as a non-functioning Windows Explorer. I can't use it. And any time a program tries to use it, the computer crashes. I know, I could give you more details about the crashes, but what I really want to know is this: I'm a legal user of W98SE. I have my original W98SE CD. Can I uninstall W98SE and re-install it from my CD? What are the risks? What safeguard procedures should I follow? Thanks Ron. I've sent the following message to Don, too. I haven't, yet, done the re-install and I'm still looking for alternatives. Before I do this, remembering the problem appears to inside Windows Explorer, if I up-graded to Windows NT, might that serve my purpose? I don't want to loose programs nor user files associated with, or running under W98SE... for example Quicken 2000. If I up-dated to NT, instead of re-installing W98, a). would I be able to up-grade to NT while my Win98 Windows Explorer is U/S?...and...b). would the up-grade install a new Windows Explorer component, or use the older one? Thanks David |
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Re-installing W98SE
"Don Phillipson" wrote: "David" wrote in message ... I have two computers: a new one running XP; and an old one running 98SE. I've just about got everything I need off the old one, and onto the new one. The older one has serious problems. It may be hardware, but the symptoms appear as a non-functioning Windows Explorer. I can't use it. And any time a program tries to use it, the computer crashes. . . . CD. Can I uninstall W98SE and re-install it from my CD? What are the risks? What safeguard procedures should I follow? "Ron Badour" wrote: Your description suggests a system problem rather than hardware so a reinstall is in order. Do not attempt to do an install over the existing system--format the partition and do a clean install. The only possible risk is if you don't have the drivers for your hardware. The drivers might be included if you have a restore disk. Or, you might have other disks with drivers. Or, you might have to determine what specific hardware you have and get drivers from the internet. For information on installing W98, go to: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/w98_restore.html (same site that Don recommends) Thanks Ron. I've sent the following message to Don, too. I haven't, yet, done the re-install and I'm still looking for alternatives. Before I do this, remembering the problem appears to inside Windows Explorer, if I up-graded to Windows NT, might that serve my purpose? I don't want to loose programs nor user files associated with, or running under W98SE... for example Quicken 2000. If I up-dated to NT, instead of re-installing W98, a). would I be able to up-grade to NT while my Win98 Windows Explorer is U/S?...and...b). would the up-grade install a new Windows Explorer component, or use the older one? 1. Since you have transferred to your XP PC almost everything you need, better follow RB's advice and reformat and reinstal from scratch. 2. Alternatively, since hard drives are now so cheap, you could fit a new HD as C:\ and instal to that (see instructions at RB's web site). Then your old drive will become D: (automatically since your FDISK made it Primary DOS) and you can copy from it anything you really need. 3. You will however need also to reinstal all your user apps, and perhaps update them as well. The point is that you do not know whether your problem is caused by Registry errors. When over-installing you may choose to reuse the old Registry or create a new one from scratch. Most mavens think it is simply too risky to reuse old Registries. -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) and then My old computer, I think, has already got a C: and a D: drive. Would a new (C HD have to occupy the same "physical space" as the old one did, or... could I buy a new (external) HD and designate it as the C: drive? Would the old C: and D: drives, then, get arbitrarily re-lettered? B-T-W, in my previous post I said I might up-grade to NT... I meant Win 2000. Does that make any difference to your response? Thanks again, Don. |
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"David" wrote in message
... 2. Alternatively, since hard drives are now so cheap, you could fit a new HD as C:\ and instal to that (see instructions at RB's web site). Then your old drive will become D: (automatically since your FDISK made it Primary DOS) and you can copy from it anything you really need. My old computer, I think, has already got a C: and a D: drive. Would a new (C HD have to occupy the same "physical space" as the old one did, or... could I buy a new (external) HD and designate it as the C: drive? Would the old C: and D: drives, then, get arbitrarily re lettered? BIOS identifies HDD #1 and #2. (I think DOS FDISK calls them #0 and #1, a feature of its origins approx. 1985, but forget this.) Win98 looks through BIOS for a logical drive set (by FDISK) as Primary DOS. This becomes drive C. For simplicity's sake, what we plan to use as drive C should be installed in the PC as Master drive on IDE line #1. Win98 needs no more than a single Primary DOS drive (and does not expect to find more than one, unless you have a boot manager, to offer a choice at boot between two or more different operating systems) . All other logical drives are created by FDISK in the Extended DOS partition. Whenever Win98 boot encounters a second Primary DOS partition it automatically becomes drive D: (because it gets priority over Ext DOS logical drives.) Thus if your old PC has C: and D: on a single hard drive, and you make that the slave and put a new HDD as Master: 1. The new drive becomes C: (after you FDISK it as Primary DOS. You need to FORMAT it before Windows can use it, e.g. instal the Win98 Operating System.) 2. Your old C (if still Primary DOS) automatically becomes drive D, because it is the second Priimary DOS drive found. 3. Thereafter, any Ext DOS drives on HDD #1 are lettered in order, starting with the next letter viz. E: Then follow any Ext DOS drives found on HDD # 2. So (if you created more than one drive on your new HDD) your old drive D might become F or G etc. 4. Windows gives the next free drive letter(s) to the CD drive(s) found (and after that any USB drive devices). If we ever consider adding any drives, it is thus a good idea to reassign a later drive letter to our CD drive. That way, if you add an extra HDD, none of your Registry details (e.g. filepath to source files for Windows or drivers) needs to be updated. I always have any CD-ROM set up as drive O and any CD R/W drive as drive Q. 5. Point #3 is where drive identifying names become useful, to distinguish between old D: and new D: I name drives installed on date 1 July 2006 as either Boot1JLY06 (if Primary DOS) or Data1JLY06 (if Ext DOS.) B-T-W, in my previous post I said I might up-grade to NT... I meant Win 2000. Does that make any difference to your response? The standard question applies. What would Win2000 allow you to do that (1) you want to do now, and (2) Win98SE does not allow? -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
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"David" wrote in message
... 2. Alternatively, since hard drives are now so cheap, you could fit a new HD as C:\ and instal to that (see instructions at RB's web site). Then your old drive will become D: (automatically since your FDISK made it Primary DOS) and you can copy from it anything you really need. My old computer, I think, has already got a C: and a D: drive. Would a new (C HD have to occupy the same "physical space" as the old one did, or... could I buy a new (external) HD and designate it as the C: drive? Would the old C: and D: drives, then, get arbitrarily re lettered? BIOS identifies HDD #1 and #2. (I think DOS FDISK calls them #0 and #1, a feature of its origins approx. 1985, but forget this.) Win98 looks through BIOS for a logical drive set (by FDISK) as Primary DOS. This becomes drive C. For simplicity's sake, what we plan to use as drive C should be installed in the PC as Master drive on IDE line #1. Win98 needs no more than a single Primary DOS drive (and does not expect to find more than one, unless you have a boot manager, to offer a choice at boot between two or more different operating systems) . All other logical drives are created by FDISK in the Extended DOS partition. Whenever Win98 boot encounters a second Primary DOS partition it automatically becomes drive D: (because it gets priority over Ext DOS logical drives.) Thus if your old PC has C: and D: on a single hard drive, and you make that the slave and put a new HDD as Master: 1. The new drive becomes C: (after you FDISK it as Primary DOS. You need to FORMAT it before Windows can use it, e.g. instal the Win98 Operating System.) 2. Your old C (if still Primary DOS) automatically becomes drive D, because it is the second Priimary DOS drive found. 3. Thereafter, any Ext DOS drives on HDD #1 are lettered in order, starting with the next letter viz. E: Then follow any Ext DOS drives found on HDD # 2. So (if you created more than one drive on your new HDD) your old drive D might become F or G etc. 4. Windows gives the next free drive letter(s) to the CD drive(s) found (and after that any USB drive devices). If we ever consider adding any drives, it is thus a good idea to reassign a later drive letter to our CD drive. That way, if you add an extra HDD, none of your Registry details (e.g. filepath to source files for Windows or drivers) needs to be updated. I always have any CD-ROM set up as drive O and any CD R/W drive as drive Q. 5. Point #3 is where drive identifying names become useful, to distinguish between old D: and new D: I name drives installed on date 1 July 2006 as either Boot1JLY06 (if Primary DOS) or Data1JLY06 (if Ext DOS.) B-T-W, in my previous post I said I might up-grade to NT... I meant Win 2000. Does that make any difference to your response? The standard question applies. What would Win2000 allow you to do that (1) you want to do now, and (2) Win98SE does not allow? -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
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"Don Phillipson" wrote: "David" wrote in message ... 2. Alternatively, since hard drives are now so cheap, you could fit a new HD as C:\ and instal to that (see instructions at RB's web site). Then your old drive will become D: (automatically since your FDISK made it Primary DOS) and you can copy from it anything you really need. My old computer, I think, has already got a C: and a D: drive. Would a new (C HD have to occupy the same "physical space" as the old one did, or... could I buy a new (external) HD and designate it as the C: drive? Would the old C: and D: drives, then, get arbitrarily re lettered? BIOS identifies HDD #1 and #2. (I think DOS FDISK calls them #0 and #1, a feature of its origins approx. 1985, but forget this.) Win98 looks through BIOS for a logical drive set (by FDISK) as Primary DOS. This becomes drive C. For simplicity's sake, what we plan to use as drive C should be installed in the PC as Master drive on IDE line #1. Win98 needs no more than a single Primary DOS drive (and does not expect to find more than one, unless you have a boot manager, to offer a choice at boot between two or more different operating systems) . All other logical drives are created by FDISK in the Extended DOS partition. Whenever Win98 boot encounters a second Primary DOS partition it automatically becomes drive D: (because it gets priority over Ext DOS logical drives.) Thus if your old PC has C: and D: on a single hard drive, and you make that the slave and put a new HDD as Master: 1. The new drive becomes C: (after you FDISK it as Primary DOS. You need to FORMAT it before Windows can use it, e.g. instal the Win98 Operating System.) 2. Your old C (if still Primary DOS) automatically becomes drive D, because it is the second Priimary DOS drive found. 3. Thereafter, any Ext DOS drives on HDD #1 are lettered in order, starting with the next letter viz. E: Then follow any Ext DOS drives found on HDD # 2. So (if you created more than one drive on your new HDD) your old drive D might become F or G etc. 4. Windows gives the next free drive letter(s) to the CD drive(s) found (and after that any USB drive devices). If we ever consider adding any drives, it is thus a good idea to reassign a later drive letter to our CD drive. That way, if you add an extra HDD, none of your Registry details (e.g. filepath to source files for Windows or drivers) needs to be updated. I always have any CD-ROM set up as drive O and any CD R/W drive as drive Q. 5. Point #3 is where drive identifying names become useful, to distinguish between old D: and new D: I name drives installed on date 1 July 2006 as either Boot1JLY06 (if Primary DOS) or Data1JLY06 (if Ext DOS.) B-T-W, in my previous post I said I might up-grade to NT... I meant Win 2000. Does that make any difference to your response? The standard question applies. What would Win2000 allow you to do that (1) you want to do now, and (2) Win98SE does not allow? -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) The standard question is always apt... and I have an answer: What my Win98SE does not have is a functioning Windows Explorer. I can't use it. Any time I, or a program, tries to use it, the computer crashes. Soooo, I thought an up-grade might replace that faulty component, and yet not be too large for my old computer AND allow me to run the older programs I'm so hooked on. An up-grade to Win2000 (that IS different from Windows NT, isn't it?) may allow an "intermediate up-grade" and, at the same time, replace my faulty "Windows Explorer". |
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"David" wrote in message
... What my Win98SE does not have is a functioning Windows Explorer. I can't use it. Any time I, or a program, tries to use it, the computer crashes. Soooo, I thought an up-grade might replace that faulty component, and yet not be too large for my old computer AND allow me to run the older programs I'm so hooked on. An up-grade to Win2000 (that IS different from Windows NT, isn't it?) may allow an "intermediate up-grade" and, at the same time, replace my faulty "Windows Explorer". EXPLORE.EXE is not a "component" of the Win98 Operating System so much as its core -- the essential central part that enables the peripheral parts to work. You may be able to repair yours by running the year 2004 Upgrade/Security disk or any of several service upgrades. We do not know. That is why your fastest route to a serviceable PC is to reinstal Win98SE which takes about 45 minutes. -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
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