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Old June 1st 08, 06:38 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
SomeOne
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Default Problems Defraging Sys Drive (C:)

When I start system in SAFE Mode I still have the problem. However, using
Win98SE ScanDisk / Defrag I do get the message "Scan Disk Cannot Continue
Because A Program Such As A Disk Utility Has Locked This Drive. Close The
Program Or Wait For It To Finish, Then Restart ScanDisk" The other messages
was when I tried to use the Norton utility. By the way, Norton's is on
there because that is what come with the machine. If you have a suggestion,
I am open to it. I do understand that Norton is a very invasive piece of
software and is a real PITA to uninstall

Since my BIOS has a problem with a limit of 32Gig, and I have a 40Gig hard
drive, I really wonder if the problem is not the EZ Bios. Would appear that
is the utility. So there is a poss of a conflict. I need the EZ-Bios to
see above 32Gig, yet I am trying to defrag a logical drive that is part of a
40Gig physical drive. As I said, I can defrag the other logical drives,
just not C:.

I get the idea that if I started the system in DOS Mode and ran a defrag
that I might be shooting myself in the foot due to he absence of the EC-Bios
(DOS would only see the drive a 32Gig and I have no idea what I would drive
a stake into.

By the way, if on a re-boot I tell the machine to re-boot in DOS the only
thing that I get is a fast flashing cursor in the upper left corner of the
screen

Thanks in advance

SomeOn


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Old June 2nd 08, 04:11 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.performance
glee
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Default Problems Defraging Sys Drive (C:)

Forwarded to win98.gen_discussion, where numerous other respondents to your earlier
multipost may be able to help.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"SomeOne" wrote in message
...
When I start system in SAFE Mode I still have the problem. However, using
Win98SE ScanDisk / Defrag I do get the message "Scan Disk Cannot Continue
Because A Program Such As A Disk Utility Has Locked This Drive. Close The
Program Or Wait For It To Finish, Then Restart ScanDisk" The other messages
was when I tried to use the Norton utility. By the way, Norton's is on
there because that is what come with the machine. If you have a suggestion,
I am open to it. I do understand that Norton is a very invasive piece of
software and is a real PITA to uninstall

Since my BIOS has a problem with a limit of 32Gig, and I have a 40Gig hard
drive, I really wonder if the problem is not the EZ Bios. Would appear that
is the utility. So there is a poss of a conflict. I need the EZ-Bios to
see above 32Gig, yet I am trying to defrag a logical drive that is part of a
40Gig physical drive. As I said, I can defrag the other logical drives,
just not C:.

I get the idea that if I started the system in DOS Mode and ran a defrag
that I might be shooting myself in the foot due to he absence of the EC-Bios
(DOS would only see the drive a 32Gig and I have no idea what I would drive
a stake into.

By the way, if on a re-boot I tell the machine to re-boot in DOS the only
thing that I get is a fast flashing cursor in the upper left corner of the
screen

Thanks in advance

SomeOn


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http://dts-l.net/

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Old June 2nd 08, 04:11 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.performance
glee
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Posts: 2,458
Default Problems Defraging Sys Drive (C:)

Forwarded to win98.gen_discussion, where numerous other respondents to your earlier
multipost may be able to help.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"SomeOne" wrote in message
...
When I start system in SAFE Mode I still have the problem. However, using
Win98SE ScanDisk / Defrag I do get the message "Scan Disk Cannot Continue
Because A Program Such As A Disk Utility Has Locked This Drive. Close The
Program Or Wait For It To Finish, Then Restart ScanDisk" The other messages
was when I tried to use the Norton utility. By the way, Norton's is on
there because that is what come with the machine. If you have a suggestion,
I am open to it. I do understand that Norton is a very invasive piece of
software and is a real PITA to uninstall

Since my BIOS has a problem with a limit of 32Gig, and I have a 40Gig hard
drive, I really wonder if the problem is not the EZ Bios. Would appear that
is the utility. So there is a poss of a conflict. I need the EZ-Bios to
see above 32Gig, yet I am trying to defrag a logical drive that is part of a
40Gig physical drive. As I said, I can defrag the other logical drives,
just not C:.

I get the idea that if I started the system in DOS Mode and ran a defrag
that I might be shooting myself in the foot due to he absence of the EC-Bios
(DOS would only see the drive a 32Gig and I have no idea what I would drive
a stake into.

By the way, if on a re-boot I tell the machine to re-boot in DOS the only
thing that I get is a fast flashing cursor in the upper left corner of the
screen

Thanks in advance

SomeOn


--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/

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Old June 2nd 08, 06:19 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.performance
glee
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Default Problems Defraging Sys Drive (C:)

You can't defrag from DOS, regardless of whether you have an overlay installed or
not.

I don't know why you are not able to boot to DOS....I don't think it is related to
the overlay at all, though. Are you trying to start in DOS by using Command Prompt
Only from the boot menu before Windows is loaded, or are you using the Start
Shutdown option to Restart in MS-DOS Mode?

I think these articles may be relevant:

Error Message "Windows Cannot Defragment This Drive now Because It Has Been Locked
by a Disk Utility" When Using Disk Defragmenter
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/286810

MS-DOS Lock and Unlock command help
http://www.computerhope.com/lockhlp.htm

--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm


"glee" wrote in message
...
Forwarded to win98.gen_discussion, where numerous other respondents to your
earlier multipost may be able to help.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"SomeOne" wrote in message
...
When I start system in SAFE Mode I still have the problem. However, using
Win98SE ScanDisk / Defrag I do get the message "Scan Disk Cannot Continue
Because A Program Such As A Disk Utility Has Locked This Drive. Close The
Program Or Wait For It To Finish, Then Restart ScanDisk" The other messages
was when I tried to use the Norton utility. By the way, Norton's is on
there because that is what come with the machine. If you have a suggestion,
I am open to it. I do understand that Norton is a very invasive piece of
software and is a real PITA to uninstall

Since my BIOS has a problem with a limit of 32Gig, and I have a 40Gig hard
drive, I really wonder if the problem is not the EZ Bios. Would appear that
is the utility. So there is a poss of a conflict. I need the EZ-Bios to
see above 32Gig, yet I am trying to defrag a logical drive that is part of a
40Gig physical drive. As I said, I can defrag the other logical drives,
just not C:.

I get the idea that if I started the system in DOS Mode and ran a defrag
that I might be shooting myself in the foot due to he absence of the EC-Bios
(DOS would only see the drive a 32Gig and I have no idea what I would drive
a stake into.

By the way, if on a re-boot I tell the machine to re-boot in DOS the only
thing that I get is a fast flashing cursor in the upper left corner of the
screen

Thanks in advance

SomeOn


--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/


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Old June 2nd 08, 06:19 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.performance
glee
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Posts: 2,458
Default Problems Defraging Sys Drive (C:)

You can't defrag from DOS, regardless of whether you have an overlay installed or
not.

I don't know why you are not able to boot to DOS....I don't think it is related to
the overlay at all, though. Are you trying to start in DOS by using Command Prompt
Only from the boot menu before Windows is loaded, or are you using the Start
Shutdown option to Restart in MS-DOS Mode?

I think these articles may be relevant:

Error Message "Windows Cannot Defragment This Drive now Because It Has Been Locked
by a Disk Utility" When Using Disk Defragmenter
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/286810

MS-DOS Lock and Unlock command help
http://www.computerhope.com/lockhlp.htm

--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/
http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm


"glee" wrote in message
...
Forwarded to win98.gen_discussion, where numerous other respondents to your
earlier multipost may be able to help.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"SomeOne" wrote in message
...
When I start system in SAFE Mode I still have the problem. However, using
Win98SE ScanDisk / Defrag I do get the message "Scan Disk Cannot Continue
Because A Program Such As A Disk Utility Has Locked This Drive. Close The
Program Or Wait For It To Finish, Then Restart ScanDisk" The other messages
was when I tried to use the Norton utility. By the way, Norton's is on
there because that is what come with the machine. If you have a suggestion,
I am open to it. I do understand that Norton is a very invasive piece of
software and is a real PITA to uninstall

Since my BIOS has a problem with a limit of 32Gig, and I have a 40Gig hard
drive, I really wonder if the problem is not the EZ Bios. Would appear that
is the utility. So there is a poss of a conflict. I need the EZ-Bios to
see above 32Gig, yet I am trying to defrag a logical drive that is part of a
40Gig physical drive. As I said, I can defrag the other logical drives,
just not C:.

I get the idea that if I started the system in DOS Mode and ran a defrag
that I might be shooting myself in the foot due to he absence of the EC-Bios
(DOS would only see the drive a 32Gig and I have no idea what I would drive
a stake into.

By the way, if on a re-boot I tell the machine to re-boot in DOS the only
thing that I get is a fast flashing cursor in the upper left corner of the
screen

Thanks in advance

SomeOn


--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
http://dts-l.net/


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Old June 6th 08, 04:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.performance
MEB[_2_]
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Default Problems Defraging Sys Drive (C:)

Certain BIOS limitations will not allow use of a drive over their limit,
period, without overlay. The problem is associated with the drive sector
addressing...

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--
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wrote in message
...
| On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 23:11:09 -0400, "glee"
| wrote:
|
| Since my BIOS has a problem with a limit of 32Gig, and I have a 40Gig
hard
| drive, I really wonder if the problem is not the EZ Bios. Would appear
that
| is the utility. So there is a poss of a conflict. I need the EZ-Bios
to
| see above 32Gig, yet I am trying to defrag a logical drive that is part
of a
| 40Gig physical drive. As I said, I can defrag the other logical
drives,
| just not C:.
|
| I would have just created two partitions. Make the first one 32gigs
| (or less) and the second one 8 gigs (or more).
| Then you dont need that software from the drive mfgr.
| (Those smaller partitions are a good place to store digital photos or
| music).


  #7  
Old June 6th 08, 04:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.performance
MEB[_2_]
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Posts: 1,626
Default Problems Defraging Sys Drive (C:)

Certain BIOS limitations will not allow use of a drive over their limit,
period, without overlay. The problem is associated with the drive sector
addressing...

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

wrote in message
...
| On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 23:11:09 -0400, "glee"
| wrote:
|
| Since my BIOS has a problem with a limit of 32Gig, and I have a 40Gig
hard
| drive, I really wonder if the problem is not the EZ Bios. Would appear
that
| is the utility. So there is a poss of a conflict. I need the EZ-Bios
to
| see above 32Gig, yet I am trying to defrag a logical drive that is part
of a
| 40Gig physical drive. As I said, I can defrag the other logical
drives,
| just not C:.
|
| I would have just created two partitions. Make the first one 32gigs
| (or less) and the second one 8 gigs (or more).
| Then you dont need that software from the drive mfgr.
| (Those smaller partitions are a good place to store digital photos or
| music).


 




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