WM-Player streaming audio.

My 98SE machine is freshly installed with what I consider a basic build
including Avast!, Flash, Java, QT and Real players, WMP 9, DX9.0c -- the
full boat that I might deliver to a client (mentioning only that stuff which
might be involved, here), and while I don't actually have any speakers
plugged in (gotta go out to the shed and dig up a pair for this Compaq test
bed), I loaded that page over and over again and got no errors or other
prompts (once I'd installed the sound card drivers, which I usually don't
bother with, for the obvious reason that it has no speakers.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"PCR" wrote in message
...
glee wrote:
| Star,
| Please let us know if you get this resolved, and if you get any info
| through the support channels for XP SP3.
|
| Please note that when I looked through the WMP mini-faq at
| http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html, there was this info which may relate
| to your issue:
|
| quote
|
| In some cases firewalls will block UDP traffic, which is required for
| "real-time" streaming playback. In those cases, WMP will be forced to
| use HTTP/TCP, which will cause us to buffer/pause in times of network
| congestion. Notably Connection Sharing (ICS) and Personal Firewall
| cause WMP to use TCP/IP instead of UDP. If you go to
| View:Statistics:Advanced, you can see what your actual bandwidth is,
| vs what is needed.
|
| You may find that unchecking the UDP protocol in WMP's options may
| clear this up too:
|
| Problems Streaming Content with the Windows Media Player
| http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;307650
|
| /quote
|
| Also, are you using a third-party firewall that might be interfering?

At that site Star posted...
http://www.angelfire.com/pa5/pattycarter3/MyLove.html

I'm getting that same error (& none of the song plays-- not even 80%)...

0xC00D11C0: Cannot play the file
Windows Media Player cannot play the file because a network problem
occurred. You may encounter this error message for one of the following
reasons:

I tried all suggestions & none have worked...

(a) All protocols were already enabled at the WMP, Options, Network tab.
(b) I unchecked the UDP protocol there.
(c) I set the streaming proxies to autodetect or use the browser's
proxy.
(d) I turned off avast!'s proxy by unchecking it at...
"Internet Options, Connections tab, Netzero (dial-up), Setting
button"
(e) I disabled Kerio Personal Firewall at the Administration screen.

I'd like to think the site itself is doing something wrong-- but Terhune
says it works for him! Of course he's using XP & I'm still Win98. Should
it work for Win98SE with WMP v.9 too?

| --
| Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
| http://dts-l.net/
| http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
|
|
| "Star" wrote in message
| ...
| Hi Glen,
| Thxs for the link to the Tech Guy-- I read the post you linked me
| to-- the poster couldn't stream video at all. I will post in the
| multimedia forum, who knows, I surely can't be the only one with
| this occurence!!
|
| Do you have XP now or just 98-SE, I seem to remember you were
| running both OS's?? I'm happy to see your still in this group.
|
| Very strange symptom, the song plays 80% and then just stops and
| gives the error I posted. Hopefully I will figure it out, but it
| seems like WHAT's to figure--- when the problem for me is only one
| large website, but I sure did enjoy going and spending time.
|
| Thanks, Star
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "glee"
| Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
| Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 9:07 PM
| Subject: WM-Player streaming audio.
|
| Freezing embedded windows media player -
|
http://forums.techguy.org/multimedia...ia-player.html
|
| --
| Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
| http://dts-l.net/
| http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
|
|
| "Star" wrote in message
| ...
| Hi Everyone,
| I MAY also have a newsgroup problem using OE-- I sent a post to
| microsoft.public.windowsmedia.player.web and it never did post??
|
| I'm a old timer, not new to this group--
| My question IS regarding WM-Player and I see some othes have
| posted here regarding the player.
|
| From: "Star"
| Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsmedia.player.web
| Subject: Strange streaming behavior from WM-Player.
| Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 15:03:06 -0700
| Lines: 52
| X-Priority: 3
| X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
| X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512
| X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original
| X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579
|
| Hi everyone,
| Maybe a MVP can answer or anyone can chime in w/knowledge. I'm
| experience strange behavior of WMP on a website I've been going to
| for years. I am giving a page location on this sight.
|
| Exact web url:
| http://www.angelfire.com/pa5/pattycarter3/MyLove.html
|
| The files are streaming audia-- MPEG Audio Layer-3
| The pages have the WMP control on them.
|
| I know this isn't a problem w/my player, I suspect it's security
| related. I have added SP-3 to my W-XP OS recently since visiting
| the page. This occurs only on this website which is quite large.
| Actually I have NEVER seen anything quite like this before, the
| player works absolutely first rate playing audio & video on other
| websites.
|
| * open website, music starts & plays 80% of song-- STOPS, dialog
| box opens-- Error-- Windows Media Player cannot play the file
| because a network error occurred.
|
| * If I paste the sound location into IE address bar-- WMPlayer
| opens for me and again plays 80% of the 4:04 min. sound file.
|
| ** I receive same dialog box--. Windows Media Player cannot play
| the file because a network error occurred.
|
| I Click on more info button--
| 0xC00D11C0: Cannot play the file
| Windows Media Player cannot play the file because a network problem
| occurred.
|
| 1. Your computer is not connected to the local area network (LAN)
| or Internet. Connect to the network or Internet, and then try
| again.
|
| 2. The path to the file is not valid. If you typed a Uniform
| Resource Locator (URL) address in the Open URL dialog box, ensure
| that the file name is spelled correctly and the path to the file
| is correct, and then try again. If you clicked a link on a Web
| page, the link may not be valid.
|
| 3. The server is down or busy. Try connecting to the server again
| later. Some network protocols in the Player are not enabled.
| Enable all network protocols, and then try again.
|
| 4. The proxy server settings for the Player are not configured
| properly. Verify that your proxy settings are correct, and then
| try again.
|
| I'm positive Microsoft IS missing MY REASON/OCCURENCE ??
| Thank you.
|
| "glee" wrote in message
| ...
| Freezing embedded windows media player -
|
http://forums.techguy.org/multimedia...ia-player.html
|
| --
| Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
| http://dts-l.net/
| http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
|
|
| "Star" wrote in message
| ...
| Hi Everyone,
| I MAY also have a newsgroup problem using OE-- I sent a post to
| microsoft.public.windowsmedia.player.web and it never did post??
|
| I'm a old timer, not new to this group--
| My question IS regarding WM-Player and I see some othes have
| posted here regarding the player.
|
| From: "Star"
| Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsmedia.player.web
| Subject: Strange streaming behavior from WM-Player.
| Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 15:03:06 -0700
| Lines: 52
| X-Priority: 3
| X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
| X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512
| X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original
| X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579
|
| Hi everyone,
| Maybe a MVP can answer or anyone can chime in w/knowledge. I'm
| experience strange behavior of WMP on a website I've been going to
| for years. I am giving a page location on this sight.
|
| Exact web url:
| http://www.angelfire.com/pa5/pattycarter3/MyLove.html
|
| The files are streaming audia-- MPEG Audio Layer-3
| The pages have the WMP control on them.
|
| I know this isn't a problem w/my player, I suspect it's security
| related. I have added SP-3 to my W-XP OS recently since visiting
| the page. This occurs only on this website which is quite large.
| Actually I have NEVER seen anything quite like this before, the
| player works absolutely first rate playing audio & video on other
| websites.
|
| * open website, music starts & plays 80% of song-- STOPS, dialog
| box opens-- Error-- Windows Media Player cannot play the file
| because a network error occurred.
|
| * If I paste the sound location into IE address bar-- WMPlayer
| opens for me and again plays 80% of the 4:04 min. sound file.
|
| ** I receive same dialog box--. Windows Media Player cannot play
| the file because a network error occurred.
|
| I Click on more info button--
| 0xC00D11C0: Cannot play the file
| Windows Media Player cannot play the file because a network problem
| occurred.
|
| 1. Your computer is not connected to the local area network (LAN)
| or Internet. Connect to the network or Internet, and then try
| again.
|
| 2. The path to the file is not valid. If you typed a Uniform
| Resource Locator (URL) address in the Open URL dialog box, ensure
| that the file name is spelled correctly and the path to the file
| is correct, and then try again. If you clicked a link on a Web
| page, the link may not be valid.
|
| 3. The server is down or busy. Try connecting to the server again
| later. Some network protocols in the Player are not enabled.
| Enable all network protocols, and then try again.
|
| 4. The proxy server settings for the Player are not configured
| properly. Verify that your proxy settings are correct, and then
| try again.
|
| I'm positive Microsoft IS missing MY REASON/OCCURENCE ??
| Thank you.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| My 98SE machine is freshly installed with what I consider a basic
| build including Avast!, Flash, Java, QT and Real players, WMP 9,
| DX9.0c -- the full boat that I might deliver to a client (mentioning
| only that stuff which might be involved, here), and while I don't
| actually have any speakers plugged in (gotta go out to the shed and
| dig up a pair for this Compaq test bed), I loaded that page over and
| over again and got no errors or other prompts (once I'd installed the
| sound card drivers, which I usually don't bother with, for the
| obvious reason that it has no speakers.)

Thanks for your interest, Terhune. I'm SE & fully updated, even Flash is
updated. But I never went for SUN Java, & I don't have QT or Real
Player. I am Dial-Up at 52,000 bps.

Suddenly, the site works for me, even with avast!'s proxy & Kerio
Personal Firewall enabled. The tune that site plays is...
http://www.angelfire.com/pa5/pattyca.../LionelRitchie My
Love.mp3

I dropped that URL into an address bar (as Star tried). It caused a
full-screen WMP to open with the error still. However, the ditty was
loaded, &, when I clicked the play button-- it played all the way
through! I went back to the site-- & that seems to be working too now,
although the error did at first show up once/twice more. I guess I'm
more/less fully cured! Thanks again & to glee too.

I guess it's playing from TIFs now, &, if I wipe them, I'll have to go
through the rigmarole all over again.

| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| http://grystmill.com
|
| "PCR" wrote in message
| ...
| glee wrote:
| | Star,
| | Please let us know if you get this resolved, and if you get any
| | info through the support channels for XP SP3.
| |
| | Please note that when I looked through the WMP mini-faq at
| | http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html, there was this info which may relate
| | to your issue:
| |
| | quote
| |
| | In some cases firewalls will block UDP traffic, which is required
| | for "real-time" streaming playback. In those cases, WMP will be
| | forced to use HTTP/TCP, which will cause us to buffer/pause in
| | times of network congestion. Notably Connection Sharing (ICS) and
| | Personal Firewall cause WMP to use TCP/IP instead of UDP. If you
| | go to View:Statistics:Advanced, you can see what your actual
| | bandwidth is, vs what is needed.
| |
| | You may find that unchecking the UDP protocol in WMP's options may
| | clear this up too:
| |
| | Problems Streaming Content with the Windows Media Player
| | http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;307650
| |
| | /quote
| |
| | Also, are you using a third-party firewall that might be
| | interfering?
|
| At that site Star posted...
| http://www.angelfire.com/pa5/pattycarter3/MyLove.html
|
| I'm getting that same error (& none of the song plays-- not even
| 80%)...
|
| 0xC00D11C0: Cannot play the file
| Windows Media Player cannot play the file because a network problem
| occurred. You may encounter this error message for one of the
| following reasons:
|
| I tried all suggestions & none have worked...
|
| (a) All protocols were already enabled at the WMP, Options, Network
| tab. (b) I unchecked the UDP protocol there.
| (c) I set the streaming proxies to autodetect or use the browser's
| proxy.
| (d) I turned off avast!'s proxy by unchecking it at...
| "Internet Options, Connections tab, Netzero (dial-up), Setting
| button"
| (e) I disabled Kerio Personal Firewall at the Administration screen.
|
| I'd like to think the site itself is doing something wrong-- but
| Terhune says it works for him! Of course he's using XP & I'm still
| Win98. Should it work for Win98SE with WMP v.9 too?
|
| | --
| | Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
| | http://dts-l.net/
| | http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
| |
| |
| | "Star" wrote in message
| | ...
| | Hi Glen,
| | Thxs for the link to the Tech Guy-- I read the post you linked me
| | to-- the poster couldn't stream video at all. I will post in the
| | multimedia forum, who knows, I surely can't be the only one with
| | this occurence!!
| |
| | Do you have XP now or just 98-SE, I seem to remember you were
| | running both OS's?? I'm happy to see your still in this group.
| |
| | Very strange symptom, the song plays 80% and then just stops and
| | gives the error I posted. Hopefully I will figure it out, but it
| | seems like WHAT's to figure--- when the problem for me is only one
| | large website, but I sure did enjoy going and spending time.
| |
| | Thanks, Star
| |
| | ----- Original Message -----
| | From: "glee"
| | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
| | Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 9:07 PM
| | Subject: WM-Player streaming audio.
| |
| | Freezing embedded windows media player -
| |
|
http://forums.techguy.org/multimedia...ia-player.html
| |
| | --
| | Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
| | http://dts-l.net/
| | http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
| |
| |
| | "Star" wrote in message
| | ...
| | Hi Everyone,
| | I MAY also have a newsgroup problem using OE-- I sent a post to
| | microsoft.public.windowsmedia.player.web and it never did post??
| |
| | I'm a old timer, not new to this group--
| | My question IS regarding WM-Player and I see some othes have
| | posted here regarding the player.
| |
| | From: "Star"
| | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsmedia.player.web
| | Subject: Strange streaming behavior from WM-Player.
| | Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 15:03:06 -0700
| | Lines: 52
| | X-Priority: 3
| | X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
| | X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512
| | X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original
| | X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579
| |
| | Hi everyone,
| | Maybe a MVP can answer or anyone can chime in w/knowledge. I'm
| | experience strange behavior of WMP on a website I've been going
| | to for years. I am giving a page location on this sight.
| |
| | Exact web url:
| | http://www.angelfire.com/pa5/pattycarter3/MyLove.html
| |
| | The files are streaming audia-- MPEG Audio Layer-3
| | The pages have the WMP control on them.
| |
| | I know this isn't a problem w/my player, I suspect it's security
| | related. I have added SP-3 to my W-XP OS recently since
| | visiting the page. This occurs only on this website which is
| | quite large. Actually I have NEVER seen anything quite like
| | this before, the player works absolutely first rate playing
| | audio & video on other websites.
| |
| | * open website, music starts & plays 80% of song-- STOPS, dialog
| | box opens-- Error-- Windows Media Player cannot play the file
| | because a network error occurred.
| |
| | * If I paste the sound location into IE address bar-- WMPlayer
| | opens for me and again plays 80% of the 4:04 min. sound file.
| |
| | ** I receive same dialog box--. Windows Media Player cannot play
| | the file because a network error occurred.
| |
| | I Click on more info button--
| | 0xC00D11C0: Cannot play the file
| | Windows Media Player cannot play the file because a network
| | problem occurred.
| |
| | 1. Your computer is not connected to the local area network
| | (LAN) or Internet. Connect to the network or Internet, and then
| | try again.
| |
| | 2. The path to the file is not valid. If you typed a Uniform
| | Resource Locator (URL) address in the Open URL dialog box,
| | ensure that the file name is spelled correctly and the path to
| | the file is correct, and then try again. If you clicked a link
| | on a Web page, the link may not be valid.
| |
| | 3. The server is down or busy. Try connecting to the server
| | again later. Some network protocols in the Player are not
| | enabled. Enable all network protocols, and then try again.
| |
| | 4. The proxy server settings for the Player are not configured
| | properly. Verify that your proxy settings are correct, and then
| | try again.
| |
| | I'm positive Microsoft IS missing MY REASON/OCCURENCE ??
| | Thank you.
| |
| | "glee" wrote in message
| | ...
| | Freezing embedded windows media player -
| |
|
http://forums.techguy.org/multimedia...ia-player.html
| |
| | --
| | Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+
| | http://dts-l.net/
| | http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
| |
| |
| | "Star" wrote in message
| | ...
| | Hi Everyone,
| | I MAY also have a newsgroup problem using OE-- I sent a post to
| | microsoft.public.windowsmedia.player.web and it never did post??
| |
| | I'm a old timer, not new to this group--
| | My question IS regarding WM-Player and I see some othes have
| | posted here regarding the player.
| |
| | From: "Star"
| | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsmedia.player.web
| | Subject: Strange streaming behavior from WM-Player.
| | Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 15:03:06 -0700
| | Lines: 52
| | X-Priority: 3
| | X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
| | X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512
| | X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original
| | X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579
| |
| | Hi everyone,
| | Maybe a MVP can answer or anyone can chime in w/knowledge. I'm
| | experience strange behavior of WMP on a website I've been going
| | to for years. I am giving a page location on this sight.
| |
| | Exact web url:
| | http://www.angelfire.com/pa5/pattycarter3/MyLove.html
| |
| | The files are streaming audia-- MPEG Audio Layer-3
| | The pages have the WMP control on them.
| |
| | I know this isn't a problem w/my player, I suspect it's security
| | related. I have added SP-3 to my W-XP OS recently since
| | visiting the page. This occurs only on this website which is
| | quite large. Actually I have NEVER seen anything quite like
| | this before, the player works absolutely first rate playing
| | audio & video on other websites.
| |
| | * open website, music starts & plays 80% of song-- STOPS, dialog
| | box opens-- Error-- Windows Media Player cannot play the file
| | because a network error occurred.
| |
| | * If I paste the sound location into IE address bar-- WMPlayer
| | opens for me and again plays 80% of the 4:04 min. sound file.
| |
| | ** I receive same dialog box--. Windows Media Player cannot play
| | the file because a network error occurred.
| |
| | I Click on more info button--
| | 0xC00D11C0: Cannot play the file
| | Windows Media Player cannot play the file because a network
| | problem occurred.
| |
| | 1. Your computer is not connected to the local area network
| | (LAN) or Internet. Connect to the network or Internet, and then
| | try again.
| |
| | 2. The path to the file is not valid. If you typed a Uniform
| | Resource Locator (URL) address in the Open URL dialog box,
| | ensure that the file name is spelled correctly and the path to
| | the file is correct, and then try again. If you clicked a link
| | on a Web page, the link may not be valid.
| |
| | 3. The server is down or busy. Try connecting to the server
| | again later. Some network protocols in the Player are not
| | enabled. Enable all network protocols, and then try again.
| |
| | 4. The proxy server settings for the Player are not configured
| | properly. Verify that your proxy settings are correct, and then
| | try again.
| |
| | I'm positive Microsoft IS missing MY REASON/OCCURENCE ??
| | Thank you.
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| Should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR

Gary, Glen, PCR,
Took to NG microsoft.public.windowsmedia.player...
Gary can play on a newly installed 98-SE OS, and his XP system w/SP-3.
PCR could NOT on 98-SE, got some of the same errors at me. But now he's
fixed, can play entire song, this IS absolutely crazy!!

I've still been checking it out and a media MVP has given more feedback.
Confirmed, these arn't .WAV files but MP3, which I originally discovered. I
saw the stats in the properties on the pages & in WMplayer when I called it
up w/direct link pasting in my browser.

Neil couldn't play the songs at all, WMplayer barfed on him without a gag.

Very strange, I can tell you the songs USE to play entirely for me and not
abruptly stop w/13 seconds left to play.

This IS the home page/INDEX page.
http://www.angelfire.com/pa5/pattycarter/
If you go visit, she calls them .WAV's and they show as .WAV's if you look
in your TIF.

http://www.angelfire.com/pa5/pattyca...sInWaiting.wav
Above is the SERVER location for the SONG on the INDEX page... called Angels
In Wating and it does carry the .wav extension. *WMplayer WILL OPEN to play
the song or should try, I can play all but 13 seconds.*

IS this not peculiar, how differently WMPlayer IS behaving on this website??
Below IS Neil Smith's response and the response I just wrote him.
Star

"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 02:35:33 -0700, "Star" wrote:

Snip
"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote in message

None of the songs I tried play, because they're MP3 files but labelled
on the server as WAV files : e.g. on this page

** So when you went to the Index page at
http://www.angelfire.com/pa5/pattycarter/, the song on that page didn't play
or start-up?? The song DOES starts up and play for me.

** Very interesting Neil, she calls them .wav's on the index page and I've
looked at them in the my TIF and saw the .wav extension, however I *knew*
that was *very strange* the files were small. And, *I DID* know they were
using the mpeg layer 3 codec, therefore WERE MP3, I mentioned this fact in
my 2nd paragraph of my first post.

** I guess I figured it out... but needed verification, they are MP3, they
would be huge files if they were indeed .wav.

http://www.angelfire.com/pa5/pattyca...sInWaiting.wav

** Yes, the above IS the link to server, will open WMplayer directly, the
song IS playing now as I type, it's 3.36. The properties show it is a MP3
and on the pages she does have the WMPlayer control, it you right click on
the control, you can also obtain the stats for the song. The song playing
JUST ABRUPTLY STOPPED, 13 seconds were remaining to play. I wonder why I
can play the song partially and you *can't* play the song at all??

The server tells WMP "OK it's wave audio" and WMP goes "fine - oops"
and barfs.

** Right-- gags & barfs.

Rename both the music files and the in-page link on that page to end
in .mp3, and Angelfire's servers will probably send the correct
content type to media player.

I guess Frontpage which it seems you've used could have broken this,
and I also imagine it can be used to fix links across a site if files
are renamed.

** Yes I have had front page, quite some time ago though, actually when I
was using 98-SE. I only have Word, Ppt & Excel at this time installed.

In the page above the player object / tag contains a URL in the HTML
http://www.angelfire.com/pa5/pattyca...sInWaiting.wav
**This link opens WMPlayer and the player plays most of the song Angel In
Waiting for me**
which should be changed to
http://www.angelfire.com/pa5/pattyca...sInWaiting.mp3
and the corresponding file renamed to MP3 as well.
** The above link DOESN'T open WMPlayer, the browser goes to a *bad page--
Error 404*.

Once you've established that works, you'd have to do it for all the
other MP3 files which are listed as WAV on that server.

HTH
Cheers - Neil
------------------------------------------------
Digital Media MVP : 2004-2008
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs

** If she has her website messed up this bad... you would think she knows
about ALREADY and fix the server links and extensions, crazy!!
** Thank you Neil for clarification, this website was making me nuts!!
Star

And here's where I step out of the discussion, because whatever the issue
is, I'm pretty certain it isn't in any of the Windows systems that have
participated thus far, or any other PCs. The issue must be in the
construction of the site, the coding of the player, and/or a problem in the
sound file. Not something my brain is up to following.

Good luck!

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com


"Star" wrote in message
...
Gary, Glen, PCR,
Took to NG microsoft.public.windowsmedia.player...
Gary can play on a newly installed 98-SE OS, and his XP system w/SP-3.
PCR could NOT on 98-SE, got some of the same errors at me. But now he's
fixed, can play entire song, this IS absolutely crazy!!

I've still been checking it out and a media MVP has given more feedback.
Confirmed, these arn't .WAV files but MP3, which I originally discovered.
I saw the stats in the properties on the pages & in WMplayer when I called
it up w/direct link pasting in my browser.

Neil couldn't play the songs at all, WMplayer barfed on him without a gag.

Very strange, I can tell you the songs USE to play entirely for me and not
abruptly stop w/13 seconds left to play.

This IS the home page/INDEX page.
http://www.angelfire.com/pa5/pattycarter/
If you go visit, she calls them .WAV's and they show as .WAV's if you look
in your TIF.

http://www.angelfire.com/pa5/pattyca...sInWaiting.wav
Above is the SERVER location for the SONG on the INDEX page... called
Angels In Wating and it does carry the .wav extension. *WMplayer WILL
OPEN to play the song or should try, I can play all but 13 seconds.*

IS this not peculiar, how differently WMPlayer IS behaving on this
website??
Below IS Neil Smith's response and the response I just wrote him.
Star

"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 02:35:33 -0700, "Star" wrote:

Snip
"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote in message

None of the songs I tried play, because they're MP3 files but labelled
on the server as WAV files : e.g. on this page

** So when you went to the Index page at
http://www.angelfire.com/pa5/pattycarter/, the song on that page didn't
play
or start-up?? The song DOES starts up and play for me.

** Very interesting Neil, she calls them .wav's on the index page and I've
looked at them in the my TIF and saw the .wav extension, however I *knew*
that was *very strange* the files were small. And, *I DID* know they were
using the mpeg layer 3 codec, therefore WERE MP3, I mentioned this fact in
my 2nd paragraph of my first post.

** I guess I figured it out... but needed verification, they are MP3, they
would be huge files if they were indeed .wav.

http://www.angelfire.com/pa5/pattyca...sInWaiting.wav

** Yes, the above IS the link to server, will open WMplayer directly, the
song IS playing now as I type, it's 3.36. The properties show it is a MP3
and on the pages she does have the WMPlayer control, it you right click
on
the control, you can also obtain the stats for the song. The song playing
JUST ABRUPTLY STOPPED, 13 seconds were remaining to play. I wonder why I
can play the song partially and you *can't* play the song at all??

The server tells WMP "OK it's wave audio" and WMP goes "fine - oops"
and barfs.

** Right-- gags & barfs.

Rename both the music files and the in-page link on that page to end
in .mp3, and Angelfire's servers will probably send the correct
content type to media player.

I guess Frontpage which it seems you've used could have broken this,
and I also imagine it can be used to fix links across a site if files
are renamed.

** Yes I have had front page, quite some time ago though, actually when I
was using 98-SE. I only have Word, Ppt & Excel at this time installed.

In the page above the player object / tag contains a URL in the HTML
http://www.angelfire.com/pa5/pattyca...sInWaiting.wav
**This link opens WMPlayer and the player plays most of the song Angel In
Waiting for me**
which should be changed to
http://www.angelfire.com/pa5/pattyca...sInWaiting.mp3
and the corresponding file renamed to MP3 as well.
** The above link DOESN'T open WMPlayer, the browser goes to a *bad page--
Error 404*.

Once you've established that works, you'd have to do it for all the
other MP3 files which are listed as WAV on that server.

HTH
Cheers - Neil
------------------------------------------------
Digital Media MVP : 2004-2008
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs

** If she has her website messed up this bad... you would think she knows
about ALREADY and fix the server links and extensions, crazy!!
** Thank you Neil for clarification, this website was making me nuts!!
Star

Star wrote:
| Gary, Glen, PCR,
| Took to NG microsoft.public.windowsmedia.player...
| Gary can play on a newly installed 98-SE OS, and his XP system w/SP-3.
| PCR could NOT on 98-SE, got some of the same errors at me. But now
| he's fixed, can play entire song, this IS absolutely crazy!!

That site does appear to be a bit nutty. It took several tries to get
the .wav to work too. Delete them from TIFs & try again. When finally it
works, you should have a TIF that looks like...

G:\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\D3RF5DGEdir *.wav
Directory of G:\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\D3RF5DGE
ANGELS~1 WAV 540,498 09-04-08 9:36p AngelsInWaiting[1].wav

That will be run for 3:36 without an error. Copy it to your music
folder-- & forget about the site!

| I've still been checking it out and a media MVP has given more
| feedback. Confirmed, these arn't .WAV files but MP3, which I
| originally discovered. I saw the stats in the properties on the
| pages & in WMplayer when I called it up w/direct link pasting in my
| browser.
|
| Neil couldn't play the songs at all, WMplayer barfed on him without a
| gag.
|
| Very strange, I can tell you the songs USE to play entirely for me
| and not abruptly stop w/13 seconds left to play.
|
| This IS the home page/INDEX page.
| http://www.angelfire.com/pa5/pattycarter/
| If you go visit, she calls them .WAV's and they show as .WAV's if you
| look in your TIF.
|
| http://www.angelfire.com/pa5/pattyca...sInWaiting.wav
| Above is the SERVER location for the SONG on the INDEX page... called
| Angels In Wating and it does carry the .wav extension. *WMplayer
| WILL OPEN to play the song or should try, I can play all but 13
| seconds.*
|
| IS this not peculiar, how differently WMPlayer IS behaving on this
| website?? Below IS Neil Smith's response and the response I just
| wrote him.
| Star
|
| "Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote in message
| ...
| On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 02:35:33 -0700, "Star"
| wrote:
|
|Snip
|"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote in message
|
| None of the songs I tried play, because they're MP3 files but
| labelled on the server as WAV files : e.g. on this page
|
| ** So when you went to the Index page at
| http://www.angelfire.com/pa5/pattycarter/, the song on that page
| didn't play or start-up?? The song DOES starts up and play for me.
|
| ** Very interesting Neil, she calls them .wav's on the index page and
| I've looked at them in the my TIF and saw the .wav extension, however
| I *knew* that was *very strange* the files were small. And, *I DID*
| know they were using the mpeg layer 3 codec, therefore WERE MP3, I
| mentioned this fact in my 2nd paragraph of my first post.
|
| ** I guess I figured it out... but needed verification, they are MP3,
| they would be huge files if they were indeed .wav.
|
| http://www.angelfire.com/pa5/pattyca...sInWaiting.wav
|
| ** Yes, the above IS the link to server, will open WMplayer directly,
| the song IS playing now as I type, it's 3.36. The properties show it
| is a MP3 and on the pages she does have the WMPlayer control, it you
| right click on the control, you can also obtain the stats for the
| song. The song playing JUST ABRUPTLY STOPPED, 13 seconds were
| remaining to play. I wonder why I can play the song partially and
| you *can't* play the song at all??
|
| The server tells WMP "OK it's wave audio" and WMP goes "fine - oops"
| and barfs.
|
| ** Right-- gags & barfs.
|
| Rename both the music files and the in-page link on that page to end
| in .mp3, and Angelfire's servers will probably send the correct
| content type to media player.
|
| I guess Frontpage which it seems you've used could have broken this,
| and I also imagine it can be used to fix links across a site if files
| are renamed.
|
| ** Yes I have had front page, quite some time ago though, actually
| when I was using 98-SE. I only have Word, Ppt & Excel at this time
| installed.
|
| In the page above the player object / tag contains a URL in the
| HTML
| http://www.angelfire.com/pa5/pattyca...sInWaiting.wav
| **This link opens WMPlayer and the player plays most of the song
| Angel In Waiting for me**
| which should be changed to
| http://www.angelfire.com/pa5/pattyca...sInWaiting.mp3
| and the corresponding file renamed to MP3 as well.
| ** The above link DOESN'T open WMPlayer, the browser goes to a *bad
| page-- Error 404*.
|
| Once you've established that works, you'd have to do it for all the
| other MP3 files which are listed as WAV on that server.
|
| HTH
| Cheers - Neil
| ------------------------------------------------
| Digital Media MVP : 2004-2008
| http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs
|
| ** If she has her website messed up this bad... you would think she
| knows about ALREADY and fix the server links and extensions, crazy!!
| ** Thank you Neil for clarification, this website was making me nuts!!
| Star

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR

SNIP
**Hi PCR Pro,
That site does appear to be a bit nutty. It took several tries to get
the .wav to work too. Delete them from TIFs & try again. When finally it
works, you should have a TIF that looks like...
G:\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\D3RF5DGEdir *.wav
Directory of G:\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\D3RF5DGE
ANGELS~1 WAV 540,498 09-04-08 9:36p AngelsInWaiting[1].wav

**G:\Directory- you moved your TIF fldr (Temporary Internet Files) folder to
the G:\Directory??
Don't you have Windows 98-SE installed on your C:\Directory??
I seem to remember your puter only had one drive and it WAS NOT
partitioned??
Like Windows 98-SE, XP has Content IE5 fldr INSIDE the TIF.
I'm unable to view the inside the Content IE5 fldr, don't know how on XP.
I do know on 98-SE it can be viewed using Windows Explorer, that IS NOT true
for W-XP.
In XP the default path to the TIF IS....
C:\Documents and Settings\Star\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files
Also, when I play the Angels In Waiting or any media on the Internet, the
media files don't go into Content IE5 but just inside the TIF (all video &
audio, flash, etc...) I can grap from the TIF and do not grab from Content
IE5.

That will be run for 3:36 without an error.
Copy it to your music folder-- & forget about the site!

**If I just copy it, no good, I'm not gettin the entire song, the song is
missing the ending!!

No problem, this is one issue and one website to *let go*... I will miss it,
maybe it will fix itself in the future and I again can play the complete
songs.

Gary, One question pls.
Can you tell me how to viwe the Content IE5 inside my TIF??
I know how on W-98-SE, use Windows Explorer to browse, but this doesn't work
on XP for me??
Could you help me out w/this question.

Thanks, Star

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
And here's where I step out of the discussion, because whatever the issue
is, I'm pretty certain it isn't in any of the Windows systems that have
participated thus far, or any other PCs. The issue must be in the
construction of the site, the coding of the player, and/or a problem in
the sound file. Not something my brain is up to following.

Good luck!

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com


"Star" wrote in message
...
Gary, Glen, PCR,
Took to NG microsoft.public.windowsmedia.player...
Gary can play on a newly installed 98-SE OS, and his XP system w/SP-3.
PCR could NOT on 98-SE, got some of the same errors at me. But now he's
fixed, can play entire song, this IS absolutely crazy!!

I've still been checking it out and a media MVP has given more feedback.
Confirmed, these arn't .WAV files but MP3, which I originally discovered.
I saw the stats in the properties on the pages & in WMplayer when I
called it up w/direct link pasting in my browser.

Neil couldn't play the songs at all, WMplayer barfed on him without a
gag.

Very strange, I can tell you the songs USE to play entirely for me and
not abruptly stop w/13 seconds left to play.

This IS the home page/INDEX page.
http://www.angelfire.com/pa5/pattycarter/
If you go visit, she calls them .WAV's and they show as .WAV's if you
look in your TIF.

http://www.angelfire.com/pa5/pattyca...sInWaiting.wav
Above is the SERVER location for the SONG on the INDEX page... called
Angels In Wating and it does carry the .wav extension. *WMplayer WILL
OPEN to play the song or should try, I can play all but 13 seconds.*

IS this not peculiar, how differently WMPlayer IS behaving on this
website??
Below IS Neil Smith's response and the response I just wrote him.
Star

"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 02:35:33 -0700, "Star" wrote:

Snip
"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" wrote in message

None of the songs I tried play, because they're MP3 files but labelled
on the server as WAV files : e.g. on this page

** So when you went to the Index page at
http://www.angelfire.com/pa5/pattycarter/, the song on that page didn't
play
or start-up?? The song DOES starts up and play for me.

** Very interesting Neil, she calls them .wav's on the index page and
I've
looked at them in the my TIF and saw the .wav extension, however I *knew*
that was *very strange* the files were small. And, *I DID* know they
were
using the mpeg layer 3 codec, therefore WERE MP3, I mentioned this fact
in
my 2nd paragraph of my first post.

** I guess I figured it out... but needed verification, they are MP3,
they
would be huge files if they were indeed .wav.

http://www.angelfire.com/pa5/pattyca...sInWaiting.wav

** Yes, the above IS the link to server, will open WMplayer directly, the
song IS playing now as I type, it's 3.36. The properties show it is a
MP3
and on the pages she does have the WMPlayer control, it you right click
on
the control, you can also obtain the stats for the song. The song
playing
JUST ABRUPTLY STOPPED, 13 seconds were remaining to play. I wonder why I
can play the song partially and you *can't* play the song at all??

The server tells WMP "OK it's wave audio" and WMP goes "fine - oops"
and barfs.

** Right-- gags & barfs.

Rename both the music files and the in-page link on that page to end
in .mp3, and Angelfire's servers will probably send the correct
content type to media player.

I guess Frontpage which it seems you've used could have broken this,
and I also imagine it can be used to fix links across a site if files
are renamed.

** Yes I have had front page, quite some time ago though, actually when I
was using 98-SE. I only have Word, Ppt & Excel at this time installed.

In the page above the player object / tag contains a URL in the HTML
http://www.angelfire.com/pa5/pattyca...sInWaiting.wav
**This link opens WMPlayer and the player plays most of the song Angel In
Waiting for me**
which should be changed to
http://www.angelfire.com/pa5/pattyca...sInWaiting.mp3
and the corresponding file renamed to MP3 as well.
** The above link DOESN'T open WMPlayer, the browser goes to a *bad
page--
Error 404*.

Once you've established that works, you'd have to do it for all the
other MP3 files which are listed as WAV on that server.

HTH
Cheers - Neil
------------------------------------------------
Digital Media MVP : 2004-2008
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/mvpfaqs

** If she has her website messed up this bad... you would think she knows
about ALREADY and fix the server links and extensions, crazy!!
** Thank you Neil for clarification, this website was making me nuts!!
Star

Can you tell me how to viwe the Content IE5 inside my TIF??
I know how on W-98-SE, use Windows Explorer to browse, but this doesn't
work on XP for me??

start - run - cleanmgr
select Temporary Internet Files.
then click the "View Files' button.
Read the location if disired - or just browse.

Hi,
Wow, I tried to figure this out some time back, I knew how on other OS's,
kinda felt ****ed that I couldn't see the Content IE5 via explore and using
Windows Explorer!!

Thank you so much, forgot about this issue until PCR reminded me!!

OMG, how simple, is this the only way via Clean Mgr., never would have
discovered on my own ! ?

Star

"FromTheRafters" wrote in message
...
Can you tell me how to viwe the Content IE5 inside my TIF??
I know how on W-98-SE, use Windows Explorer to browse, but this doesn't
work on XP for me??

start - run - cleanmgr
select Temporary Internet Files.
then click the "View Files' button.
Read the location if disired - or just browse.

You can get the same thing in Internet Options, General tab, Temporary
Internet Files section, Settings button, View Files.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Star" wrote in message
...
Hi,
Wow, I tried to figure this out some time back, I knew how on other OS's,
kinda felt ****ed that I couldn't see the Content IE5 via explore and
using Windows Explorer!!

Thank you so much, forgot about this issue until PCR reminded me!!

OMG, how simple, is this the only way via Clean Mgr., never would have
discovered on my own ! ?

Star

"FromTheRafters" wrote in message
...
Can you tell me how to viwe the Content IE5 inside my TIF??
I know how on W-98-SE, use Windows Explorer to browse, but this doesn't
work on XP for me??

start - run - cleanmgr
select Temporary Internet Files.
then click the "View Files' button.
Read the location if disired - or just browse.