Win'98SE & IE 6

I tried to tell him you would come!

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Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
| Dan & PCR: Get a room.

No hard feelings Dan (sorry for the delay in responding - I've been taking a
sabatical whilst my parents visit).

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"Dan" wrote in message
...
Okay, sorry Gary.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
: Whether Sandi is right or wrong, *YOU* are not qualified to judge her
: performance and/or character by any means. We all make mistakes (if this
: *is* a mistake.) After you've spent the better part of a decade of your
: life being one of the top posters to one of the most contentious and
: problematic arenas in Microsoft support, *then* you may, perhaps,
: consider yourself qualified to judge Sandi. Until then, may I suggest
: that you reign in your fingers and opinions. Stick to the facts, and be
: exceedingly polite--you haven't the experience required to be tossing
: out any judgments of other people here.
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS MVP Shell/User
:
: "Dan" wrote in message
: ...
: Wow, you go MM and thank you very much for setting the record
: straight. I
: really appreciate the input! I knew I was not wrong on this point.
: Perhaps
: Sandi has finally installed Mozilla Firefox with Spyware Blaster
: because of
: the amount of press that Mozilla Firefox has gotten recently. (aside:
: Sandi,
: we here at the 98 general newsgroup stick up for each other. Please
: make
: sure you get the facts straight like Gary S. Terhune before making
: outrageous
: and mistaken claims. Thank you and have a great day!)
:
: "Mostly Me (MM)" wrote in message
: ...
: : Sandi - Microsoft MVP wrote:
: : Dan, have you noticed that the last Spyware Blaster update
: included 8
: : new entries for IE, and 209 for Mozille/Firefox?
: :
: : You are making that up. Perhaps it's just more wishful thinking on
: your
: : part. There are 209 total items for Firefox. The "latest" update
: from
: : SpywareBlaster contained 8 new entries, all for IE. I check for SB
: : updates twice a week, so don't try and tell me different. I know
: what is
: : real. There haven't been 200 total additions to the SB database,
: : inlcuding those for IE, over the last several weeks *combined*.
: There
: : are 3356 total items in SpywareBlaster's database. Get out a
: calculator
: : and do the math if you like, but that means 3100+ are for IE.
: :
: : I'll assume that this is the first time you enabled protection for
: : Firefox and that you are not purposely going out of your way to lie.
: :
: : MM pauses, thinks of prior nonsense about Firefox posted by you.
: : Though, you seem to like to pooh-pooh Firefox at every opportunity,
: so
: : perhaps now you have to resort to making things up to support your
: : theory and attempt to keep the luster on your Golden Ox?
: :
: : Its simply a matter of time before other shoe drops, and many
: upset
: : users start asking why Firefox was touted as the
: be-all-and-end-off of
: : safe surfing, when it isn't.
: :
: : No one is claiming it to be a cure all. No one is claiming it to
: : infallible. Why do *you* keep saying that? "More secure" does not
: mean
: : fool-proof. You're using extremist terms to modify what is really
: being
: : said to try and substantiate your claims.
: :
: : Based on the misinformation you've spewed forth, your theory is pure
: : fantasy for you and the folks in Redmond to wallow in.
: :
: : You have no facts to base it on. You can't formulate a trend on a
: model
: : of 1. You are indulging in reverie, not science.
: :
: : Before you slam me as an IE apologist, check out the attached
: graphic
: : (browsers that I have installed and actively test/use - not
: including
: : obscure browsers such as Kopassa):
: : http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/browsers.htm
: :
: :
: : I wouldn't call you an IE apologist. Perhaps worshiper is a better
: term.
: : You play minimalist with its problems and then maximize any fault in
: : other browsers without facts that can be duplicated outside of your
: : personal "evaluations", which have now been exposed as flawed, to
: put it
: : kindly.
: :
: : Your statements have taxed my credulity beyond its limits. I wish
: you a
: : good day nonetheless.
: :
: : MM
:
:
:

Thanks for replying Sandi. I appreciate the response. I will be gone for a
week and return on Tuesday 22nd February 2005. I am helping my mom babysit
my two nieces who are three years old and almost one year old -- Samantha and
Julia. My sister and brother-in-law who is Canadian are going to a friend's
wedding in Canada. Have a great Tuesday. smile

"Sandi - Microsoft MVP" wrote in message
...
: No hard feelings Dan (sorry for the delay in responding - I've been taking
a
: sabatical whilst my parents visit).
:
: --
: Hyperlinks are used to ensure advice remains current
: Visit the Internet Explorer Online Community:
: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/...y/default.mspx
: _______________________________________
: Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999 (IE/OE)
: http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/
:
:
: "Dan" wrote in message
: ...
: Okay, sorry Gary.
:
: "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
: ...
: : Whether Sandi is right or wrong, *YOU* are not qualified to judge her
: : performance and/or character by any means. We all make mistakes (if
this
: : *is* a mistake.) After you've spent the better part of a decade of your
: : life being one of the top posters to one of the most contentious and
: : problematic arenas in Microsoft support, *then* you may, perhaps,
: : consider yourself qualified to judge Sandi. Until then, may I suggest
: : that you reign in your fingers and opinions. Stick to the facts, and be
: : exceedingly polite--you haven't the experience required to be tossing
: : out any judgments of other people here.
: :
: : --
: : Gary S. Terhune
: : MS MVP Shell/User
: :
: : "Dan" wrote in message
: : ...
: : Wow, you go MM and thank you very much for setting the record
: : straight. I
: : really appreciate the input! I knew I was not wrong on this point.
: : Perhaps
: : Sandi has finally installed Mozilla Firefox with Spyware Blaster
: : because of
: : the amount of press that Mozilla Firefox has gotten recently.
(aside:
: : Sandi,
: : we here at the 98 general newsgroup stick up for each other. Please
: : make
: : sure you get the facts straight like Gary S. Terhune before making
: : outrageous
: : and mistaken claims. Thank you and have a great day!)
: :
: : "Mostly Me (MM)" wrote in message
: : ...
: : : Sandi - Microsoft MVP wrote:
: : : Dan, have you noticed that the last Spyware Blaster update
: : included 8
: : : new entries for IE, and 209 for Mozille/Firefox?
: : :
: : : You are making that up. Perhaps it's just more wishful thinking on
: : your
: : : part. There are 209 total items for Firefox. The "latest" update
: : from
: : : SpywareBlaster contained 8 new entries, all for IE. I check for SB
: : : updates twice a week, so don't try and tell me different. I know
: : what is
: : : real. There haven't been 200 total additions to the SB database,
: : : inlcuding those for IE, over the last several weeks *combined*.
: : There
: : : are 3356 total items in SpywareBlaster's database. Get out a
: : calculator
: : : and do the math if you like, but that means 3100+ are for IE.
: : :
: : : I'll assume that this is the first time you enabled protection for
: : : Firefox and that you are not purposely going out of your way to
lie.
: : :
: : : MM pauses, thinks of prior nonsense about Firefox posted by you.
: : : Though, you seem to like to pooh-pooh Firefox at every opportunity,
: : so
: : : perhaps now you have to resort to making things up to support your
: : : theory and attempt to keep the luster on your Golden Ox?
: : :
: : : Its simply a matter of time before other shoe drops, and many
: : upset
: : : users start asking why Firefox was touted as the
: : be-all-and-end-off of
: : : safe surfing, when it isn't.
: : :
: : : No one is claiming it to be a cure all. No one is claiming it to
: : : infallible. Why do *you* keep saying that? "More secure" does not
: : mean
: : : fool-proof. You're using extremist terms to modify what is really
: : being
: : : said to try and substantiate your claims.
: : :
: : : Based on the misinformation you've spewed forth, your theory is
pure
: : : fantasy for you and the folks in Redmond to wallow in.
: : :
: : : You have no facts to base it on. You can't formulate a trend on a
: : model
: : : of 1. You are indulging in reverie, not science.
: : :
: : : Before you slam me as an IE apologist, check out the attached
: : graphic
: : : (browsers that I have installed and actively test/use - not
: : including
: : : obscure browsers such as Kopassa):
: : : http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/browsers.htm
: : :
: : :
: : : I wouldn't call you an IE apologist. Perhaps worshiper is a better
: : term.
: : : You play minimalist with its problems and then maximize any fault
in
: : : other browsers without facts that can be duplicated outside of your
: : : personal "evaluations", which have now been exposed as flawed, to
: : put it
: : : kindly.
: : :
: : : Your statements have taxed my credulity beyond its limits. I wish
: : you a
: : : good day nonetheless.
: : :
: : : MM
: :
: :
: :
:
:
:

Whew! Dan, you don't know how *lucky* you are!

;-)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Sandi - Microsoft MVP" wrote in message
...
No hard feelings Dan (sorry for the delay in responding - I've been
taking a
sabatical whilst my parents visit).

--
Hyperlinks are used to ensure advice remains current
Visit the Internet Explorer Online Community:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/...y/default.mspx
_______________________________________
Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999 (IE/OE)
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/


"Dan" wrote in message
...
Okay, sorry Gary.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
: Whether Sandi is right or wrong, *YOU* are not qualified to judge
her
: performance and/or character by any means. We all make mistakes
(if this
: *is* a mistake.) After you've spent the better part of a decade of
your
: life being one of the top posters to one of the most contentious
and
: problematic arenas in Microsoft support, *then* you may, perhaps,
: consider yourself qualified to judge Sandi. Until then, may I
suggest
: that you reign in your fingers and opinions. Stick to the facts,
and be
: exceedingly polite--you haven't the experience required to be
tossing
: out any judgments of other people here.
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS MVP Shell/User
:
: "Dan" wrote in message
: ...
: Wow, you go MM and thank you very much for setting the record
: straight. I
: really appreciate the input! I knew I was not wrong on this
point.
: Perhaps
: Sandi has finally installed Mozilla Firefox with Spyware Blaster
: because of
: the amount of press that Mozilla Firefox has gotten recently.
(aside:
: Sandi,
: we here at the 98 general newsgroup stick up for each other.
Please
: make
: sure you get the facts straight like Gary S. Terhune before
making
: outrageous
: and mistaken claims. Thank you and have a great day!)
:
: "Mostly Me (MM)" wrote in message
: ...
: : Sandi - Microsoft MVP wrote:
: : Dan, have you noticed that the last Spyware Blaster update
: included 8
: : new entries for IE, and 209 for Mozille/Firefox?
: :
: : You are making that up. Perhaps it's just more wishful
thinking on
: your
: : part. There are 209 total items for Firefox. The "latest"
update
: from
: : SpywareBlaster contained 8 new entries, all for IE. I check
for SB
: : updates twice a week, so don't try and tell me different. I
know
: what is
: : real. There haven't been 200 total additions to the SB
database,
: : inlcuding those for IE, over the last several weeks
*combined*.
: There
: : are 3356 total items in SpywareBlaster's database. Get out a
: calculator
: : and do the math if you like, but that means 3100+ are for IE.
: :
: : I'll assume that this is the first time you enabled protection
for
: : Firefox and that you are not purposely going out of your way
to lie.
: :
: : MM pauses, thinks of prior nonsense about Firefox posted by
you.
: : Though, you seem to like to pooh-pooh Firefox at every
opportunity,
: so
: : perhaps now you have to resort to making things up to support
your
: : theory and attempt to keep the luster on your Golden Ox?
: :
: : Its simply a matter of time before other shoe drops, and
many
: upset
: : users start asking why Firefox was touted as the
: be-all-and-end-off of
: : safe surfing, when it isn't.
: :
: : No one is claiming it to be a cure all. No one is claiming it
to
: : infallible. Why do *you* keep saying that? "More secure" does
not
: mean
: : fool-proof. You're using extremist terms to modify what is
really
: being
: : said to try and substantiate your claims.
: :
: : Based on the misinformation you've spewed forth, your theory
is pure
: : fantasy for you and the folks in Redmond to wallow in.
: :
: : You have no facts to base it on. You can't formulate a trend
on a
: model
: : of 1. You are indulging in reverie, not science.
: :
: : Before you slam me as an IE apologist, check out the
attached
: graphic
: : (browsers that I have installed and actively test/use - not
: including
: : obscure browsers such as Kopassa):
: : http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/browsers.htm
: :
: :
: : I wouldn't call you an IE apologist. Perhaps worshiper is a
better
: term.
: : You play minimalist with its problems and then maximize any
fault in
: : other browsers without facts that can be duplicated outside of
your
: : personal "evaluations", which have now been exposed as flawed,
to
: put it
: : kindly.
: :
: : Your statements have taxed my credulity beyond its limits. I
wish
: you a
: : good day nonetheless.
: :
: : MM
:
:
:

YUP!

I think he got off lucky. (I don't know if I would have been so quick to
forgive...)

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
Whew! Dan, you don't know how *lucky* you are!

;-)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Sandi - Microsoft MVP" wrote in message
...
No hard feelings Dan (sorry for the delay in responding - I've been
taking a
sabatical whilst my parents visit).

--
Hyperlinks are used to ensure advice remains current
Visit the Internet Explorer Online Community:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/...y/default.mspx
_______________________________________
Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999 (IE/OE)
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/


"Dan" wrote in message
...
Okay, sorry Gary.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
Whether Sandi is right or wrong, *YOU* are not qualified to judge her
performance and/or character by any means. We all make mistakes (if
this
*is* a mistake.) After you've spent the better part of a decade of your
life being one of the top posters to one of the most contentious and
problematic arenas in Microsoft support, *then* you may, perhaps,
consider yourself qualified to judge Sandi. Until then, may I suggest
that you reign in your fingers and opinions. Stick to the facts, and be
exceedingly polite--you haven't the experience required to be tossing
out any judgments of other people here.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Dan" wrote in message
...
Wow, you go MM and thank you very much for setting the record
straight. I
really appreciate the input! I knew I was not wrong on this point.
Perhaps Sandi has finally installed Mozilla Firefox with Spyware
Blaster
because of the amount of press that Mozilla Firefox has gotten
recently.
(aside: Sandi, we here at the 98 general newsgroup stick up for each
other. Please make sure you get the facts straight like Gary S.
Terhune
before making outrageous and mistaken claims. Thank you and have a
great
day!)

"Mostly Me (MM)" wrote in message
...
Sandi - Microsoft MVP wrote:
Dan, have you noticed that the last Spyware Blaster update included
8
new entries for IE, and 209 for Mozille/Firefox?

You are making that up. Perhaps it's just more wishful thinking on
your
part. There are 209 total items for Firefox. The "latest" update from
SpywareBlaster contained 8 new entries, all for IE. I check for SB
updates twice a week, so don't try and tell me different. I know what
is
real. There haven't been 200 total additions to the SB database,
inlcuding those for IE, over the last several weeks *combined*. There
are 3356 total items in SpywareBlaster's database. Get out a
calculator
and do the math if you like, but that means 3100+ are for IE.

I'll assume that this is the first time you enabled protection for
Firefox and that you are not purposely going out of your way to lie.

MM pauses, thinks of prior nonsense about Firefox posted by you.
Though, you seem to like to pooh-pooh Firefox at every opportunity,
so
perhaps now you have to resort to making things up to support your
theory and attempt to keep the luster on your Golden Ox?

Its simply a matter of time before other shoe drops, and many upset
users start asking why Firefox was touted as the be-all-and-end-off
of
safe surfing, when it isn't.

No one is claiming it to be a cure all. No one is claiming it to
infallible. Why do *you* keep saying that? "More secure" does not
mean
fool-proof. You're using extremist terms to modify what is really
being
said to try and substantiate your claims.

Based on the misinformation you've spewed forth, your theory is pure
fantasy for you and the folks in Redmond to wallow in.

You have no facts to base it on. You can't formulate a trend on a
model
of 1. You are indulging in reverie, not science.

Before you slam me as an IE apologist, check out the attached
graphic
(browsers that I have installed and actively test/use - not
including
obscure browsers such as Kopassa):
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/browsers.htm


I wouldn't call you an IE apologist. Perhaps worshiper is a better
term.
You play minimalist with its problems and then maximize any fault in
other browsers without facts that can be duplicated outside of your
personal "evaluations", which have now been exposed as flawed, to put
it
kindly.

Your statements have taxed my credulity beyond its limits. I wish you
a
good day nonetheless.

MM

I actually consider myself blessed by God but thanks for the compliment Gary.
I appreciate it. smile

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
: Whew! Dan, you don't know how *lucky* you are!
:
: ;-)
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS MVP Shell/User
: http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
: http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
:
: "Sandi - Microsoft MVP" wrote in message
: ...
: No hard feelings Dan (sorry for the delay in responding - I've been
: taking a
: sabatical whilst my parents visit).
:
: --
: Hyperlinks are used to ensure advice remains current
: Visit the Internet Explorer Online Community:
: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/...y/default.mspx
: _______________________________________
: Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999 (IE/OE)
: http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/
:
:
: "Dan" wrote in message
: ...
: Okay, sorry Gary.
:
: "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
: ...
: : Whether Sandi is right or wrong, *YOU* are not qualified to judge
: her
: : performance and/or character by any means. We all make mistakes
: (if this
: : *is* a mistake.) After you've spent the better part of a decade of
: your
: : life being one of the top posters to one of the most contentious
: and
: : problematic arenas in Microsoft support, *then* you may, perhaps,
: : consider yourself qualified to judge Sandi. Until then, may I
: suggest
: : that you reign in your fingers and opinions. Stick to the facts,
: and be
: : exceedingly polite--you haven't the experience required to be
: tossing
: : out any judgments of other people here.
: :
: : --
: : Gary S. Terhune
: : MS MVP Shell/User
: :
: : "Dan" wrote in message
: : ...
: : Wow, you go MM and thank you very much for setting the record
: : straight. I
: : really appreciate the input! I knew I was not wrong on this
: point.
: : Perhaps
: : Sandi has finally installed Mozilla Firefox with Spyware Blaster
: : because of
: : the amount of press that Mozilla Firefox has gotten recently.
: (aside:
: : Sandi,
: : we here at the 98 general newsgroup stick up for each other.
: Please
: : make
: : sure you get the facts straight like Gary S. Terhune before
: making
: : outrageous
: : and mistaken claims. Thank you and have a great day!)
: :
: : "Mostly Me (MM)" wrote in message
: : ...
: : : Sandi - Microsoft MVP wrote:
: : : Dan, have you noticed that the last Spyware Blaster update
: : included 8
: : : new entries for IE, and 209 for Mozille/Firefox?
: : :
: : : You are making that up. Perhaps it's just more wishful
: thinking on
: : your
: : : part. There are 209 total items for Firefox. The "latest"
: update
: : from
: : : SpywareBlaster contained 8 new entries, all for IE. I check
: for SB
: : : updates twice a week, so don't try and tell me different. I
: know
: : what is
: : : real. There haven't been 200 total additions to the SB
: database,
: : : inlcuding those for IE, over the last several weeks
: *combined*.
: : There
: : : are 3356 total items in SpywareBlaster's database. Get out a
: : calculator
: : : and do the math if you like, but that means 3100+ are for IE.
: : :
: : : I'll assume that this is the first time you enabled protection
: for
: : : Firefox and that you are not purposely going out of your way
: to lie.
: : :
: : : MM pauses, thinks of prior nonsense about Firefox posted by
: you.
: : : Though, you seem to like to pooh-pooh Firefox at every
: opportunity,
: : so
: : : perhaps now you have to resort to making things up to support
: your
: : : theory and attempt to keep the luster on your Golden Ox?
: : :
: : : Its simply a matter of time before other shoe drops, and
: many
: : upset
: : : users start asking why Firefox was touted as the
: : be-all-and-end-off of
: : : safe surfing, when it isn't.
: : :
: : : No one is claiming it to be a cure all. No one is claiming it
: to
: : : infallible. Why do *you* keep saying that? "More secure" does
: not
: : mean
: : : fool-proof. You're using extremist terms to modify what is
: really
: : being
: : : said to try and substantiate your claims.
: : :
: : : Based on the misinformation you've spewed forth, your theory
: is pure
: : : fantasy for you and the folks in Redmond to wallow in.
: : :
: : : You have no facts to base it on. You can't formulate a trend
: on a
: : model
: : : of 1. You are indulging in reverie, not science.
: : :
: : : Before you slam me as an IE apologist, check out the
: attached
: : graphic
: : : (browsers that I have installed and actively test/use - not
: : including
: : : obscure browsers such as Kopassa):
: : : http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/browsers.htm
: : :
: : :
: : : I wouldn't call you an IE apologist. Perhaps worshiper is a
: better
: : term.
: : : You play minimalist with its problems and then maximize any
: fault in
: : : other browsers without facts that can be duplicated outside of
: your
: : : personal "evaluations", which have now been exposed as flawed,
: to
: : put it
: : : kindly.
: : :
: : : Your statements have taxed my credulity beyond its limits. I
: wish
: : you a
: : : good day nonetheless.
: : :
: : : MM
: :
: :
: :
:
:
:
:

Yeah, well Sandi speaks forthrightly and carries a *humongous*
flamethrower! I know. I've seen it.

She's also a sweetheart, sg.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Dan" wrote in message
...
I actually consider myself blessed by God but thanks for the
compliment Gary.
I appreciate it. smile

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
: Whew! Dan, you don't know how *lucky* you are!
:
: ;-)
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS MVP Shell/User
: http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
: http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
:
: "Sandi - Microsoft MVP" wrote in message
: ...
: No hard feelings Dan (sorry for the delay in responding - I've
been
: taking a
: sabatical whilst my parents visit).
:
: --
: Hyperlinks are used to ensure advice remains current
: Visit the Internet Explorer Online Community:
: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/...y/default.mspx
: _______________________________________
: Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999 (IE/OE)
: http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/
:
:
: "Dan" wrote in message
: ...
: Okay, sorry Gary.
:
: "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
: ...
: : Whether Sandi is right or wrong, *YOU* are not qualified to
judge
: her
: : performance and/or character by any means. We all make
mistakes
: (if this
: : *is* a mistake.) After you've spent the better part of a
decade of
: your
: : life being one of the top posters to one of the most
contentious
: and
: : problematic arenas in Microsoft support, *then* you may,
perhaps,
: : consider yourself qualified to judge Sandi. Until then, may I
: suggest
: : that you reign in your fingers and opinions. Stick to the
facts,
: and be
: : exceedingly polite--you haven't the experience required to be
: tossing
: : out any judgments of other people here.
: :
: : --
: : Gary S. Terhune
: : MS MVP Shell/User
: :
: : "Dan" wrote in message
: : ...
: : Wow, you go MM and thank you very much for setting the
record
: : straight. I
: : really appreciate the input! I knew I was not wrong on this
: point.
: : Perhaps
: : Sandi has finally installed Mozilla Firefox with Spyware
Blaster
: : because of
: : the amount of press that Mozilla Firefox has gotten
recently.
: (aside:
: : Sandi,
: : we here at the 98 general newsgroup stick up for each other.
: Please
: : make
: : sure you get the facts straight like Gary S. Terhune before
: making
: : outrageous
: : and mistaken claims. Thank you and have a great day!)
: :
: : "Mostly Me (MM)" wrote in message
: : ...
: : : Sandi - Microsoft MVP wrote:
: : : Dan, have you noticed that the last Spyware Blaster
update
: : included 8
: : : new entries for IE, and 209 for Mozille/Firefox?
: : :
: : : You are making that up. Perhaps it's just more wishful
: thinking on
: : your
: : : part. There are 209 total items for Firefox. The "latest"
: update
: : from
: : : SpywareBlaster contained 8 new entries, all for IE. I
check
: for SB
: : : updates twice a week, so don't try and tell me different.
I
: know
: : what is
: : : real. There haven't been 200 total additions to the SB
: database,
: : : inlcuding those for IE, over the last several weeks
: *combined*.
: : There
: : : are 3356 total items in SpywareBlaster's database. Get out
a
: : calculator
: : : and do the math if you like, but that means 3100+ are for
IE.
: : :
: : : I'll assume that this is the first time you enabled
protection
: for
: : : Firefox and that you are not purposely going out of your
way
: to lie.
: : :
: : : MM pauses, thinks of prior nonsense about Firefox posted
by
: you.
: : : Though, you seem to like to pooh-pooh Firefox at every
: opportunity,
: : so
: : : perhaps now you have to resort to making things up to
support
: your
: : : theory and attempt to keep the luster on your Golden Ox?
: : :
: : : Its simply a matter of time before other shoe drops, and
: many
: : upset
: : : users start asking why Firefox was touted as the
: : be-all-and-end-off of
: : : safe surfing, when it isn't.
: : :
: : : No one is claiming it to be a cure all. No one is claiming
it
: to
: : : infallible. Why do *you* keep saying that? "More secure"
does
: not
: : mean
: : : fool-proof. You're using extremist terms to modify what is
: really
: : being
: : : said to try and substantiate your claims.
: : :
: : : Based on the misinformation you've spewed forth, your
theory
: is pure
: : : fantasy for you and the folks in Redmond to wallow in.
: : :
: : : You have no facts to base it on. You can't formulate a
trend
: on a
: : model
: : : of 1. You are indulging in reverie, not science.
: : :
: : : Before you slam me as an IE apologist, check out the
: attached
: : graphic
: : : (browsers that I have installed and actively test/use -
not
: : including
: : : obscure browsers such as Kopassa):
: : : http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/browsers.htm
: : :
: : :
: : : I wouldn't call you an IE apologist. Perhaps worshiper is
a
: better
: : term.
: : : You play minimalist with its problems and then maximize
any
: fault in
: : : other browsers without facts that can be duplicated
outside of
: your
: : : personal "evaluations", which have now been exposed as
flawed,
: to
: : put it
: : : kindly.
: : :
: : : Your statements have taxed my credulity beyond its limits.
I
: wish
: : you a
: : : good day nonetheless.
: : :
: : : MM
: :
: :
: :
:
:
:
:

I suppose Sandi's waiting for those nieces to be safely back in their
mom's hands. THEN she'll strike, especially if they've been squashed by
the sitters!

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
| YUP!
|
| I think he got off lucky. (I don't know if I would have been so
quick to
| forgive...)
|
| Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| Whew! Dan, you don't know how *lucky* you are!
|
| ;-)
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS MVP Shell/User
| http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
| http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
|
| "Sandi - Microsoft MVP" wrote in message
| ...
| No hard feelings Dan (sorry for the delay in responding - I've been
| taking a
| sabatical whilst my parents visit).
|
| --
| Hyperlinks are used to ensure advice remains current
| Visit the Internet Explorer Online Community:
| http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/...y/default.mspx
| _______________________________________
| Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999 (IE/OE)
| http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/
|
|
| "Dan" wrote in message
| ...
| Okay, sorry Gary.
|
| "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
| ...
| Whether Sandi is right or wrong, *YOU* are not qualified to judge
her
| performance and/or character by any means. We all make mistakes
(if
| this
| *is* a mistake.) After you've spent the better part of a decade
of your
| life being one of the top posters to one of the most contentious
and
| problematic arenas in Microsoft support, *then* you may, perhaps,
| consider yourself qualified to judge Sandi. Until then, may I
suggest
| that you reign in your fingers and opinions. Stick to the facts,
and be
| exceedingly polite--you haven't the experience required to be
tossing
| out any judgments of other people here.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS MVP Shell/User
|
| "Dan" wrote in message
| ...
| Wow, you go MM and thank you very much for setting the record
| straight. I
| really appreciate the input! I knew I was not wrong on this
point.
| Perhaps Sandi has finally installed Mozilla Firefox with Spyware
| Blaster
| because of the amount of press that Mozilla Firefox has gotten
| recently.
| (aside: Sandi, we here at the 98 general newsgroup stick up for
each
| other. Please make sure you get the facts straight like Gary S.
| Terhune
| before making outrageous and mistaken claims. Thank you and
have a
| great
| day!)
|
| "Mostly Me (MM)" wrote in message
| ...
| Sandi - Microsoft MVP wrote:
| Dan, have you noticed that the last Spyware Blaster update
included
| 8
| new entries for IE, and 209 for Mozille/Firefox?
|
| You are making that up. Perhaps it's just more wishful thinking
on
| your
| part. There are 209 total items for Firefox. The "latest"
update from
| SpywareBlaster contained 8 new entries, all for IE. I check for
SB
| updates twice a week, so don't try and tell me different. I
know what
| is
| real. There haven't been 200 total additions to the SB
database,
| inlcuding those for IE, over the last several weeks *combined*.
There
| are 3356 total items in SpywareBlaster's database. Get out a
| calculator
| and do the math if you like, but that means 3100+ are for IE.
|
| I'll assume that this is the first time you enabled protection
for
| Firefox and that you are not purposely going out of your way to
lie.
|
| MM pauses, thinks of prior nonsense about Firefox posted by
you.
| Though, you seem to like to pooh-pooh Firefox at every
opportunity,
| so
| perhaps now you have to resort to making things up to support
your
| theory and attempt to keep the luster on your Golden Ox?
|
| Its simply a matter of time before other shoe drops, and many
upset
| users start asking why Firefox was touted as the
be-all-and-end-off
| of
| safe surfing, when it isn't.
|
| No one is claiming it to be a cure all. No one is claiming it
to
| infallible. Why do *you* keep saying that? "More secure" does
not
| mean
| fool-proof. You're using extremist terms to modify what is
really
| being
| said to try and substantiate your claims.
|
| Based on the misinformation you've spewed forth, your theory is
pure
| fantasy for you and the folks in Redmond to wallow in.
|
| You have no facts to base it on. You can't formulate a trend on
a
| model
| of 1. You are indulging in reverie, not science.
|
| Before you slam me as an IE apologist, check out the attached
| graphic
| (browsers that I have installed and actively test/use - not
| including
| obscure browsers such as Kopassa):
| http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/browsers.htm
|
|
| I wouldn't call you an IE apologist. Perhaps worshiper is a
better
| term.
| You play minimalist with its problems and then maximize any
fault in
| other browsers without facts that can be duplicated outside of
your
| personal "evaluations", which have now been exposed as flawed,
to put
| it
| kindly.
|
| Your statements have taxed my credulity beyond its limits. I
wish you
| a
| good day nonetheless.
|
| MM
|
|

Oy. Stop ruining my reputation buster!!! ;o)

--
_______________________________________
Hyperlinks used to ensure advice is current
Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999 (IE/OE)
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
Yeah, well Sandi speaks forthrightly and carries a *humongous*
flamethrower! I know. I've seen it.

She's also a sweetheart, sg.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Dan" wrote in message
...
I actually consider myself blessed by God but thanks for the
compliment Gary.
I appreciate it. smile

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
: Whew! Dan, you don't know how *lucky* you are!
:
: ;-)
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS MVP Shell/User
: http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
: http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
:
: "Sandi - Microsoft MVP" wrote in message
: ...
: No hard feelings Dan (sorry for the delay in responding - I've
been
: taking a
: sabatical whilst my parents visit).
:
: --
: Hyperlinks are used to ensure advice remains current
: Visit the Internet Explorer Online Community:
: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/...y/default.mspx
: _______________________________________
: Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999 (IE/OE)
: http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/
:
:
: "Dan" wrote in message
: ...
: Okay, sorry Gary.
:
: "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
: ...
: : Whether Sandi is right or wrong, *YOU* are not qualified to
judge
: her
: : performance and/or character by any means. We all make
mistakes
: (if this
: : *is* a mistake.) After you've spent the better part of a
decade of
: your
: : life being one of the top posters to one of the most
contentious
: and
: : problematic arenas in Microsoft support, *then* you may,
perhaps,
: : consider yourself qualified to judge Sandi. Until then, may I
: suggest
: : that you reign in your fingers and opinions. Stick to the
facts,
: and be
: : exceedingly polite--you haven't the experience required to be
: tossing
: : out any judgments of other people here.
: :
: : --
: : Gary S. Terhune
: : MS MVP Shell/User
: :
: : "Dan" wrote in message
: : ...
: : Wow, you go MM and thank you very much for setting the
record
: : straight. I
: : really appreciate the input! I knew I was not wrong on this
: point.
: : Perhaps
: : Sandi has finally installed Mozilla Firefox with Spyware
Blaster
: : because of
: : the amount of press that Mozilla Firefox has gotten
recently.
: (aside:
: : Sandi,
: : we here at the 98 general newsgroup stick up for each other.
: Please
: : make
: : sure you get the facts straight like Gary S. Terhune before
: making
: : outrageous
: : and mistaken claims. Thank you and have a great day!)
: :
: : "Mostly Me (MM)" wrote in message
: : ...
: : : Sandi - Microsoft MVP wrote:
: : : Dan, have you noticed that the last Spyware Blaster
update
: : included 8
: : : new entries for IE, and 209 for Mozille/Firefox?
: : :
: : : You are making that up. Perhaps it's just more wishful
: thinking on
: : your
: : : part. There are 209 total items for Firefox. The "latest"
: update
: : from
: : : SpywareBlaster contained 8 new entries, all for IE. I
check
: for SB
: : : updates twice a week, so don't try and tell me different.
I
: know
: : what is
: : : real. There haven't been 200 total additions to the SB
: database,
: : : inlcuding those for IE, over the last several weeks
: *combined*.
: : There
: : : are 3356 total items in SpywareBlaster's database. Get out
a
: : calculator
: : : and do the math if you like, but that means 3100+ are for
IE.
: : :
: : : I'll assume that this is the first time you enabled
protection
: for
: : : Firefox and that you are not purposely going out of your
way
: to lie.
: : :
: : : MM pauses, thinks of prior nonsense about Firefox posted
by
: you.
: : : Though, you seem to like to pooh-pooh Firefox at every
: opportunity,
: : so
: : : perhaps now you have to resort to making things up to
support
: your
: : : theory and attempt to keep the luster on your Golden Ox?
: : :
: : : Its simply a matter of time before other shoe drops, and
: many
: : upset
: : : users start asking why Firefox was touted as the
: : be-all-and-end-off of
: : : safe surfing, when it isn't.
: : :
: : : No one is claiming it to be a cure all. No one is claiming
it
: to
: : : infallible. Why do *you* keep saying that? "More secure"
does
: not
: : mean
: : : fool-proof. You're using extremist terms to modify what is
: really
: : being
: : : said to try and substantiate your claims.
: : :
: : : Based on the misinformation you've spewed forth, your
theory
: is pure
: : : fantasy for you and the folks in Redmond to wallow in.
: : :
: : : You have no facts to base it on. You can't formulate a
trend
: on a
: : model
: : : of 1. You are indulging in reverie, not science.
: : :
: : : Before you slam me as an IE apologist, check out the
: attached
: : graphic
: : : (browsers that I have installed and actively test/use -
not
: : including
: : : obscure browsers such as Kopassa):
: : : http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/browsers.htm
: : :
: : :
: : : I wouldn't call you an IE apologist. Perhaps worshiper is
a
: better
: : term.
: : : You play minimalist with its problems and then maximize
any
: fault in
: : : other browsers without facts that can be duplicated
outside of
: your
: : : personal "evaluations", which have now been exposed as
flawed,
: to
: : put it
: : : kindly.
: : :
: : : Your statements have taxed my credulity beyond its limits.
I
: wish
: : you a
: : : good day nonetheless.
: : :
: : : MM
: :
: :
: :
:
:
:
:

Old-School television shows that have actors and actresses meeting again for
anniversities and remade episodes are now a huge hit in television. Awesome,
because old is now in and really cool and hip. LOL!!

"Eugene Fridman" wrote in message
...
: I'm thinking of upgrading Internet Explorer 5.50 to 6 SP1 on my Win '98SE
: system.
:
: Are there any reasons not to?
:
: Please share your experience.
:
: TIA, Eugene
:
: