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Old November 20th 14, 09:51 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Bill Cunningham
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I have a CD copy of 98se and it doesn't boot. Are there any cabinet
files that would contain mscdec.exe and some generic ms-dos driver? I'm not
quite sure how to boot this CD since it's not bootable. It's just a copy. I
know I will need io.sys and msdos.sys and autoexec.bat too atleast maybe
more files.

Bill


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Old November 21st 14, 03:28 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Bill, I assume you have a floppy drive.

Goto http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm and download and run the one for
Windows 98SE

It will prompt you to insert a blank floppy disk and then create a bootable
floppy (note that all versions include ide cdrom drivers)

Next boot off the floppy and when at the a:\ prompt go to d: and run
setup.exe (May be a different drive letter)


JT



"Bill Cunningham" wrote in message
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I have a CD copy of 98se and it doesn't boot. Are there any cabinet
files that would contain mscdec.exe and some generic ms-dos driver? I'm
not quite sure how to boot this CD since it's not bootable. It's just a
copy. I know I will need io.sys and msdos.sys and autoexec.bat too atleast
maybe more files.

Bill




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Old November 21st 14, 02:42 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
98 Guy[_3_]
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Bill Cunningham wrote:

I have a CD copy of 98se and it doesn't boot.


Many original Windows 95 / 98 CD's are not bootable. I think only
retail CD's will boot, but OEM CD's (such as "System Builder") do not.

Are there any cabinet files that would contain mscdec.exe and
some generic ms-dos driver? I'm not quite sure how to boot this
CD since it's not bootable. It's just a copy.


As has been mentioned, you can go to bootdisk.com, or (what I do when
installing win-98) is to connect the hard drive (that you are installing
to) to another machine that is up-and-running and format the drive (and
make it bootable, with DOS, which you can only do if you're doing this
with the drive connected to a win-98/me computer).

Then copy the entire CD to some directory on the drive. I will do this
for as much software as I can (Office 2000, drivers, browsers, other
apps, etc). When I've loaded the hard drive with as much software that
I need or can find, I'll remove the drive and install it in the
destination computer and then boot that computer. It will boot into
dos, at which point I can run the windows setup from the directory where
I installed the win-98 CD image.

Do you have at least one computer that is already running windows 98?
Are you able to connect the target hard drive to that computer? If the
answer to both is yes, then you won't need to make a bootable CD or
floppy.
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Old November 21st 14, 05:48 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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"98 Guy" "98"@Guy . com wrote in message
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Do you have at least one computer that is already running windows 98?
Are you able to connect the target hard drive to that computer? If the
answer to both is yes, then you won't need to make a bootable CD or
floppy.


No. I don't quite get a bootable usb stick with linux either so I don't
know how to go about using it to boot 98. I do have a USB floppy drive but I
hate to drag it out if I can use a USB drive. If I can boot on that and run
setup from it I could install win98 on a fat32 partition I have with my NTFS
one. Side by side.

Bill


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Old November 22nd 14, 03:14 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
98 Guy[_3_]
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Bill Cunningham wrote:

Do you have at least one computer that is already running
windows 98?


No. I don't quite get a bootable usb stick with linux either so I
don't know how to go about using it to boot 98.


If the computer that you want to install win-98 on does not have a
floppy drive, then I'm thinking the computer is too "new" or recent and
thus will not be able to run win-98 anyways due to lack of driver
support.

Is that a concern for you?

Can you describe the computer? As what motherboard it has, or if it's a
name-brand of some sort - what is the make/model?

Is it a laptop? (I'm thinking it probably is, given it has no floppy
drive). I don't think there is any practical value in trying to run
win-98 on a laptop or other form of portable computer these days. There
simply is not any driver support for anything made or sold from 2006
onward.
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Old November 22nd 14, 03:26 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Bill Cunningham
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"98 Guy" "98"@Guy . com wrote in message
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If the computer that you want to install win-98 on does not have a
floppy drive, then I'm thinking the computer is too "new" or recent and
thus will not be able to run win-98 anyways due to lack of driver
support.

Is that a concern for you?

Can you describe the computer? As what motherboard it has, or if it's a
name-brand of some sort - what is the make/model?

Is it a laptop? (I'm thinking it probably is, given it has no floppy
drive). I don't think there is any practical value in trying to run
win-98 on a laptop or other form of portable computer these days. There
simply is not any driver support for anything made or sold from 2006
onward.


I've run it before my computer is about 10 years old. Of course 98 can't
manage it's memory correctly or anything like that. But there is a look of
it running. It might be better to run 98 on an emulator.

Bill


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Old November 22nd 14, 04:49 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Bill Cunningham wrote:

I've run it before my computer is about 10 years old. Of course 98
can't manage it's memory correctly or anything like that.


There is a way for win-98 to utilize something like 3 out of a possible
4 gb of ram - similar to what any 32-bit version of NT can do (like 2k,
XP, etc).

I have 2 gb installed on the system I'm using right now, and 98 can see
and use all of it.

But there is a look of it running. It might be better to run
98 on an emulator.


If you have 10-year-old hardware (ie - it really is from 2005) then
there should be drivers and win-98 should run on it no problems.

I'm thinking it's a laptop, because it's trivial to install a regular
floppy drive into a desktop.
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Old November 22nd 14, 05:57 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Bill Cunningham
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"98 Guy" "98"@Guy . com wrote in message
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Bill Cunningham wrote:

I've run it before my computer is about 10 years old. Of course 98
can't manage it's memory correctly or anything like that.


There is a way for win-98 to utilize something like 3 out of a possible
4 gb of ram - similar to what any 32-bit version of NT can do (like 2k,
XP, etc).

I have 2 gb installed on the system I'm using right now, and 98 can see
and use all of it.

But there is a look of it running. It might be better to run
98 on an emulator.


If you have 10-year-old hardware (ie - it really is from 2005) then
there should be drivers and win-98 should run on it no problems.

I'm thinking it's a laptop, because it's trivial to install a regular
floppy drive into a desktop.


No I hate laptops. It's a tower. It came with XP MCE but I run x64
professional now. Win98 has run on it.

Bill


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Old November 23rd 14, 12:48 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
98 Guy[_3_]
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Bill Cunningham wrote:

I'm thinking it's a laptop, because it's trivial to install a
regular floppy drive into a desktop.


No I hate laptops. It's a tower. It came with XP MCE but I run x64
professional now. Win98 has run on it.


So let me get this straight.

You want to install 98. You have a CD, but it doesn't boot.

You could look into configuring a USB thumbdrive to boot DOS - I've
never done it, maybe it can be done, maybe not.

The computer in question is a conventional desktop (or tower, same
difference). It will have all sorts of drive bays.

And you don't have a conventional floppy drive to throw in?

I probably have 2 dozen 3.5" floppy drives kicking around. I even have
a few 5.25" drives.

I even have maybe 4 of those i-omega 100 mb zip drives - I think regular
3.5" floppy disks work in them too.

How on earth does a 10-year-old tower PC ***NOT*** have a 3.5" floppy
drive? You want to explain that? You take it out for some reason?

Go dig up a floppy drive from the garbage and hook it up, go download an
image of a DOS floppy boot disk (go and look up something called DOS
7.1), run the software that copies the image to a blank floppy disk,
set you bios so it boots from the floppy and bam - boot into dos from
the floppy and run the win-98 setup from the CD.
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Old November 23rd 14, 01:38 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Bill Cunningham
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"98 Guy" "98"@Guy . com wrote in message
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[...]

How on earth does a 10-year-old tower PC ***NOT*** have a 3.5" floppy
drive? You want to explain that? You take it out for some reason?


[...]

Nope. Came from factory with NO floppy drive. I have an external 3.5"
floppy that plugs into the usb. But I obtained that on my own. I have
several usb ports. A built in ethernet cable and an old modem card. When I
bought my computer it was E-Machine's newest media center based computer. It
came with a 32 bit OS. And My processor is 64 bit.

I have one floppy called a "supplemental disk" from dos 6.21. It doesn't
read for wome reason but I can install dos 6.21. The thing is I would have
to save everything because when formatting with fat16 everything else is
lost. I just thought maybe there was an easier way. I would have to install
dos and mscdex.exe and download a generic HD driver from somewhere.

Bill


 




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