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  #41  
Old February 19th 07, 03:48 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
Gary S. Terhune
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Default Installing Ethenet card fails Trouble is back

Diskkeeper could caused problems. ICS is internet connection sharing and
should be disabled/uninstalled is you're not going to use it, which your
aren't. It's in that same Windows Setup tab, Communications section.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"T. Duprex" tduprexATlandmark.net wrote in message
...
Isolated two entries that caused some illegal messages, but not as wild as
before. I have 17 items now On. I turned off

DK Service which is associated with defragmenter called Diskeeper, file
name diskeeper.exe

and

ICSDCLT which in is C:\Windows, file name: rundll32.exe arguments:C:
\Windows\System\ecsdclt.dll.ICSClient.

and now I can boot up repeatedly with no chaffe.


Now the only issue is being able to communicate on the internet.



  #42  
Old February 19th 07, 04:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
T. Duprex
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Default Installing Ethenet card fails Trouble is back

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in news:#KvaV0DVHHA.3500
@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:

Diskkeeper could caused problems. ICS is internet connection sharing and
should be disabled/uninstalled is you're not going to use it, which your
aren't. It's in that same Windows Setup tab, Communications section.


I've had diskeeper disabled, will most likely uninstall it.
I wasn't sure about ICS since the information I found on it talks about it
being used for computers to communicate at the same time or something.

After starting up several times with both of these diabled and receiving no
illegal operations messages at all, I then turned on ICS, and without
exception I will get and illegal operation message on start up. Would you
know what uninstalls ICS, or should I just leave it turned off?
  #43  
Old February 19th 07, 04:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
T. Duprex
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Posts: 93
Default Installing Ethenet card fails Trouble is back

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in news:#KvaV0DVHHA.3500
@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:

Diskkeeper could caused problems. ICS is internet connection sharing and
should be disabled/uninstalled is you're not going to use it, which your
aren't. It's in that same Windows Setup tab, Communications section.


I've had diskeeper disabled, will most likely uninstall it.
I wasn't sure about ICS since the information I found on it talks about it
being used for computers to communicate at the same time or something.

After starting up several times with both of these diabled and receiving no
illegal operations messages at all, I then turned on ICS, and without
exception I will get and illegal operation message on start up. Would you
know what uninstalls ICS, or should I just leave it turned off?
  #44  
Old February 20th 07, 04:32 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
Gary S. Terhune
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Default Installing Ethenet card fails Trouble is back

I *think* you uninstall ICS in the same section of Windows Setup tab as
DUN -- Communications. But that may be the one for the machine that's
*providing* ICS, not the client. Also check Add/Remove Programs directly
for ICS Client. ICS is if ONE computer is connected to the internet (via any
mode) and you want the rest of the machines on the network(s) that machine
is connected to to use it's Internet Connection. Since you have a router,
you don't want that. Each machine connects through the router, not through
another machine. Problems may stem from the fact that you used that
previously.

Check Internet Options, Connections tab. Make certain it says "Never Dial a
Connection, and LAN settings should be Auto-detect.

Thing I'm concerned about on the router, now, is if it has a firewall that
is only permitting certain internal IP addresses through. All this may have
changed your machine's IP address as assigned by DHCP.

Other thing to try is IE Repair. D-click the entry for "Microsoft Internet
Explorer and Internet Tools" in Add/Remove Programs, then choose Repair
option. If that doesn't help, go back and try a forced reinstall by choosing
Add Components (same dialogue where Repair option is located.) Put a check
mark in every BOLD item that will let you, then proceed. Unfortunately,
you'll need to have the installation files on hand, sooooo.... If you don't
have them, post back for procedure to get them via your other machines.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"T. Duprex" tduprexATlandmark.net wrote in message
...
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in news:#KvaV0DVHHA.3500
@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:

Diskkeeper could caused problems. ICS is internet connection sharing and
should be disabled/uninstalled is you're not going to use it, which your
aren't. It's in that same Windows Setup tab, Communications section.


I've had diskeeper disabled, will most likely uninstall it.
I wasn't sure about ICS since the information I found on it talks about it
being used for computers to communicate at the same time or something.

After starting up several times with both of these diabled and receiving
no
illegal operations messages at all, I then turned on ICS, and without
exception I will get and illegal operation message on start up. Would you
know what uninstalls ICS, or should I just leave it turned off?



  #45  
Old February 20th 07, 04:32 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
Gary S. Terhune
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Posts: 1,846
Default Installing Ethenet card fails Trouble is back

I *think* you uninstall ICS in the same section of Windows Setup tab as
DUN -- Communications. But that may be the one for the machine that's
*providing* ICS, not the client. Also check Add/Remove Programs directly
for ICS Client. ICS is if ONE computer is connected to the internet (via any
mode) and you want the rest of the machines on the network(s) that machine
is connected to to use it's Internet Connection. Since you have a router,
you don't want that. Each machine connects through the router, not through
another machine. Problems may stem from the fact that you used that
previously.

Check Internet Options, Connections tab. Make certain it says "Never Dial a
Connection, and LAN settings should be Auto-detect.

Thing I'm concerned about on the router, now, is if it has a firewall that
is only permitting certain internal IP addresses through. All this may have
changed your machine's IP address as assigned by DHCP.

Other thing to try is IE Repair. D-click the entry for "Microsoft Internet
Explorer and Internet Tools" in Add/Remove Programs, then choose Repair
option. If that doesn't help, go back and try a forced reinstall by choosing
Add Components (same dialogue where Repair option is located.) Put a check
mark in every BOLD item that will let you, then proceed. Unfortunately,
you'll need to have the installation files on hand, sooooo.... If you don't
have them, post back for procedure to get them via your other machines.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"T. Duprex" tduprexATlandmark.net wrote in message
...
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in news:#KvaV0DVHHA.3500
@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:

Diskkeeper could caused problems. ICS is internet connection sharing and
should be disabled/uninstalled is you're not going to use it, which your
aren't. It's in that same Windows Setup tab, Communications section.


I've had diskeeper disabled, will most likely uninstall it.
I wasn't sure about ICS since the information I found on it talks about it
being used for computers to communicate at the same time or something.

After starting up several times with both of these diabled and receiving
no
illegal operations messages at all, I then turned on ICS, and without
exception I will get and illegal operation message on start up. Would you
know what uninstalls ICS, or should I just leave it turned off?



  #46  
Old February 20th 07, 07:02 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
T. Duprex
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Posts: 93
Default Installing Ethenet card fails Trouble is back

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in
:
ICS doesn't appear in Add/Remove


Check Internet Options, Connections tab. Make certain it says "Never
Dial a Connection,

It does.

and LAN settings should be Auto-detect. It is.

Thing I'm concerned about on the router, now, is if it has a firewall
that is only permitting certain internal IP addresses through. All
this may have changed your machine's IP address as assigned by DHCP.


I have no firewall. As far as the router setup it is DHCP and is allowing
IP addresses 192.168.1.100 and up. As I sequence differnt computers on
and off, you see the IP addresses change among them. I monitor that with
netscan.exe continually. In fact as I sit here it Netscan on the problem
computer is showing IPs for: the gateway, two computers, the print
server, and the network printer. At any time the troubled computer has
had IP addresses ranging from .100 to .105.

Other thing to try is IE Repair. D-click the entry for "Microsoft
Internet Explorer and Internet Tools" in Add/Remove Programs, then
choose Repair option. If that doesn't help, go back and try a forced
reinstall by choosing Add Components


Repaired IE. No change. What is to be gained by a forced reinstall? When
I click Add Components I get an I E Setup small window with an "Error
creating process ..... The system cannot find the file specified. Guess
i need you to send me the proceedure, please."


Right now I'm thinking of going back via image, to the beginning where I
was able to go out on the network,and verifying that. Then doing a clean
boot, with no network card in, keeping all start up turned off and going
through your procedure again. Shutting down, installing the new network
card (The Airlink 101 which is a realtek adapter). I downloaded a more
recent driver for the card. I just want to ensure that my initial
difficulty in getting the right driver is not the root of the problem.

By the way, I've found yet another driver for the D-Link DFE-530TX. This
one is for Windows98 SE. Its Inf file is found in PC99/Win98SE/
NETDLFET.INF on the driver file. For now I'll pass on unsing the D-Link
adapter. I've wasted enought time on it.
  #47  
Old February 20th 07, 07:02 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
T. Duprex
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Posts: 93
Default Installing Ethenet card fails Trouble is back

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in
:
ICS doesn't appear in Add/Remove


Check Internet Options, Connections tab. Make certain it says "Never
Dial a Connection,

It does.

and LAN settings should be Auto-detect. It is.

Thing I'm concerned about on the router, now, is if it has a firewall
that is only permitting certain internal IP addresses through. All
this may have changed your machine's IP address as assigned by DHCP.


I have no firewall. As far as the router setup it is DHCP and is allowing
IP addresses 192.168.1.100 and up. As I sequence differnt computers on
and off, you see the IP addresses change among them. I monitor that with
netscan.exe continually. In fact as I sit here it Netscan on the problem
computer is showing IPs for: the gateway, two computers, the print
server, and the network printer. At any time the troubled computer has
had IP addresses ranging from .100 to .105.

Other thing to try is IE Repair. D-click the entry for "Microsoft
Internet Explorer and Internet Tools" in Add/Remove Programs, then
choose Repair option. If that doesn't help, go back and try a forced
reinstall by choosing Add Components


Repaired IE. No change. What is to be gained by a forced reinstall? When
I click Add Components I get an I E Setup small window with an "Error
creating process ..... The system cannot find the file specified. Guess
i need you to send me the proceedure, please."


Right now I'm thinking of going back via image, to the beginning where I
was able to go out on the network,and verifying that. Then doing a clean
boot, with no network card in, keeping all start up turned off and going
through your procedure again. Shutting down, installing the new network
card (The Airlink 101 which is a realtek adapter). I downloaded a more
recent driver for the card. I just want to ensure that my initial
difficulty in getting the right driver is not the root of the problem.

By the way, I've found yet another driver for the D-Link DFE-530TX. This
one is for Windows98 SE. Its Inf file is found in PC99/Win98SE/
NETDLFET.INF on the driver file. For now I'll pass on unsing the D-Link
adapter. I've wasted enought time on it.
  #48  
Old February 20th 07, 08:35 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
Gary S. Terhune
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Posts: 1,846
Default Installing Ethenet card fails Trouble is back

Most routers have a firewall built in. Are you sure your's doesn't? Anyway,
I doubt that's the problem.

To get IE, use another machine that can get to tithe internet and go he
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en
(TinyURL = http://tinyurl.com/6zjbm)

Run the installer stub, select "Minimal or Custom...", then click on
Advanced button. That will offer you a Download-only option. Choose the ones
OS version(s) you want included. Once it's all downloaded, copy the entire
folder named "Windows Update Setup Files" to a CD or two. This is the last
IE for Win9x systems, and you never know when MS will pull it from
Downloads.

Once you have it on CD, use that on your problem system and again choose
"Minimal or Custom" to get to the place where you can check the BOLDED items
for reinstall.

We can HOPE that this fixes things, but I suspect a deeper issue with messed
up DLLs. Only SFC can help, but you have to be very careful with that one.
It will suggest replacements you don't want. Run any suggestions by us,
first, before actually replacing.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"T. Duprex" tduprexATlandmark.net wrote in message
...
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in
:
ICS doesn't appear in Add/Remove


Check Internet Options, Connections tab. Make certain it says "Never
Dial a Connection,

It does.

and LAN settings should be Auto-detect. It is.

Thing I'm concerned about on the router, now, is if it has a firewall
that is only permitting certain internal IP addresses through. All
this may have changed your machine's IP address as assigned by DHCP.


I have no firewall. As far as the router setup it is DHCP and is allowing
IP addresses 192.168.1.100 and up. As I sequence differnt computers on
and off, you see the IP addresses change among them. I monitor that with
netscan.exe continually. In fact as I sit here it Netscan on the problem
computer is showing IPs for: the gateway, two computers, the print
server, and the network printer. At any time the troubled computer has
had IP addresses ranging from .100 to .105.

Other thing to try is IE Repair. D-click the entry for "Microsoft
Internet Explorer and Internet Tools" in Add/Remove Programs, then
choose Repair option. If that doesn't help, go back and try a forced
reinstall by choosing Add Components


Repaired IE. No change. What is to be gained by a forced reinstall? When
I click Add Components I get an I E Setup small window with an "Error
creating process ..... The system cannot find the file specified. Guess
i need you to send me the proceedure, please."


Right now I'm thinking of going back via image, to the beginning where I
was able to go out on the network,and verifying that. Then doing a clean
boot, with no network card in, keeping all start up turned off and going
through your procedure again. Shutting down, installing the new network
card (The Airlink 101 which is a realtek adapter). I downloaded a more
recent driver for the card. I just want to ensure that my initial
difficulty in getting the right driver is not the root of the problem.

By the way, I've found yet another driver for the D-Link DFE-530TX. This
one is for Windows98 SE. Its Inf file is found in PC99/Win98SE/
NETDLFET.INF on the driver file. For now I'll pass on unsing the D-Link
adapter. I've wasted enought time on it.



  #49  
Old February 20th 07, 08:35 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
Gary S. Terhune
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 1,846
Default Installing Ethenet card fails Trouble is back

Most routers have a firewall built in. Are you sure your's doesn't? Anyway,
I doubt that's the problem.

To get IE, use another machine that can get to tithe internet and go he
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en
(TinyURL = http://tinyurl.com/6zjbm)

Run the installer stub, select "Minimal or Custom...", then click on
Advanced button. That will offer you a Download-only option. Choose the ones
OS version(s) you want included. Once it's all downloaded, copy the entire
folder named "Windows Update Setup Files" to a CD or two. This is the last
IE for Win9x systems, and you never know when MS will pull it from
Downloads.

Once you have it on CD, use that on your problem system and again choose
"Minimal or Custom" to get to the place where you can check the BOLDED items
for reinstall.

We can HOPE that this fixes things, but I suspect a deeper issue with messed
up DLLs. Only SFC can help, but you have to be very careful with that one.
It will suggest replacements you don't want. Run any suggestions by us,
first, before actually replacing.

--

Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"T. Duprex" tduprexATlandmark.net wrote in message
...
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in
:
ICS doesn't appear in Add/Remove


Check Internet Options, Connections tab. Make certain it says "Never
Dial a Connection,

It does.

and LAN settings should be Auto-detect. It is.

Thing I'm concerned about on the router, now, is if it has a firewall
that is only permitting certain internal IP addresses through. All
this may have changed your machine's IP address as assigned by DHCP.


I have no firewall. As far as the router setup it is DHCP and is allowing
IP addresses 192.168.1.100 and up. As I sequence differnt computers on
and off, you see the IP addresses change among them. I monitor that with
netscan.exe continually. In fact as I sit here it Netscan on the problem
computer is showing IPs for: the gateway, two computers, the print
server, and the network printer. At any time the troubled computer has
had IP addresses ranging from .100 to .105.

Other thing to try is IE Repair. D-click the entry for "Microsoft
Internet Explorer and Internet Tools" in Add/Remove Programs, then
choose Repair option. If that doesn't help, go back and try a forced
reinstall by choosing Add Components


Repaired IE. No change. What is to be gained by a forced reinstall? When
I click Add Components I get an I E Setup small window with an "Error
creating process ..... The system cannot find the file specified. Guess
i need you to send me the proceedure, please."


Right now I'm thinking of going back via image, to the beginning where I
was able to go out on the network,and verifying that. Then doing a clean
boot, with no network card in, keeping all start up turned off and going
through your procedure again. Shutting down, installing the new network
card (The Airlink 101 which is a realtek adapter). I downloaded a more
recent driver for the card. I just want to ensure that my initial
difficulty in getting the right driver is not the root of the problem.

By the way, I've found yet another driver for the D-Link DFE-530TX. This
one is for Windows98 SE. Its Inf file is found in PC99/Win98SE/
NETDLFET.INF on the driver file. For now I'll pass on unsing the D-Link
adapter. I've wasted enought time on it.



  #50  
Old February 20th 07, 01:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
T. Duprex
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Default Installing Ethenet card fails Trouble is back

Thanks Gary:

I agree with your assessment of a corrupts something. I've got to take a
day or so before I can get back to this problem. I'll post in a day or so
when I've got something to report.
 




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