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Old June 19th 04, 07:59 PM
rooster
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When I was given this unit (2nd hand)in Feb., an OEM
version of W98 was in it, concerted with OE&IE 4.0. I
gradually learned that these accoutrements had something
to do with what made it go and that was good enough for
me. I was so green, I confused vegetarians.
I did not know until recently what an OEM was, much
less that the "Computer Essentials" portion of "Welcome to
Windows" did not come with it. I offer this as a prefatory
apologetic to MSNG in case my question(s) might suggest
I'm not doing reasonable homework, when in fact I've been
spending hours trying to do just that.
A number of features used to be available on my unit
which seem to have got abducted or purged. I applied the
SP 6.1(twice; 1st time, Start & its Toolbar didn't return)
in order to access to a specific feature I needed, viz.
128 encryption, and later I installed MS Security Update
CD.
Prior to these operations, I had a "Clipboard" in my
Accessories menu, OE had "Spellcheck", My Documents
provided a "Preview" option (Windows Folder still does)
and something I hadn't gotten around to called "Excel" is
no longer there, although I have files in something called
Hello:/C for it.
My |Help|Search|Clipboard| indicates a download is
available if that item should be discovered to be missing,
but @ Downloads |W98|Clipboard| only peripheral/adjuncts
to it appear to be mentioned; unless I am misunderstanding
the text.
I am confident the above features were there
originally. I've never laid hands on another pc in my life
so it isn't a case of confusing one with another.

My Q. is: are (any of) these appurtenances retrievable
or is it just another case of 'canis meus id comedit'?

rooster
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Old June 19th 04, 11:08 PM
Alan Edwards
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Default "clipboard" ; where went ye?

Sorry, but I am snipping down to what I can follow and what seems
relevant to your subject header.

You are not missing the Clipboard. You are missing the Clipboard
Viewer.
If you want the Clipboard Viewer, then reinstall it.
Control Panel-Add/Remove-Windows Setup-System Tools-Clipboard Viewer
You may have to uncheck it if it is checked, exit Windows Setup then
go back in and check it. Have your Win98 CD ready.

Bear in mind, the Clipboard Viewer is not essential and is a rather
poor viewer. I have not had it installed in Windows for many years.

....Alan

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http://dts-l.org/index.html

In microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion, "rooster"
wrote:


Prior to these operations, I had a "Clipboard" in my
Accessories menu


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Old June 19th 04, 11:22 PM
Brian A.
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"rooster" wrote in message
...
When I was given this unit (2nd hand)in Feb., an OEM
version of W98 was in it, concerted with OE&IE 4.0. I
gradually learned that these accoutrements had something
to do with what made it go and that was good enough for
me. I was so green, I confused vegetarians.
I did not know until recently what an OEM was, much
less that the "Computer Essentials" portion of "Welcome to
Windows" did not come with it. I offer this as a prefatory
apologetic to MSNG in case my question(s) might suggest
I'm not doing reasonable homework, when in fact I've been
spending hours trying to do just that.
A number of features used to be available on my unit
which seem to have got abducted or purged.


Why do I get the feeling you did a reinstall?

I applied the
SP 6.1(twice; 1st time, Start & its Toolbar didn't return)
in order to access to a specific feature I needed, viz.
128 encryption, and later I installed MS Security Update
CD.


Did you follow up with the rest of the critical updates needed after Oct. 2003 from
the MS Update site?

Prior to these operations, I had a "Clipboard" in my
Accessories menu,


Control Panel Add/Remove Programs Windows Setup tab Accessories. Is Clipboard
checked? If not it isn't installed. If it is, try unchecking it Apply Ok out,
reboot and go back and recheck it.

OE had "Spellcheck",


Spellcheck comes along with a text editor when installed, like MS Word.

My Documents
provided a "Preview" option (Windows Folder still does)


Right click the folder. Is Thumbnail Preview checked?

and something I hadn't gotten around to called "Excel" is
no longer there, although I have files in something called
Hello:/C for it.


Excel is part of Office either installed with the Office Suite or separately. It
does not come with any OS that I know of.

My |Help|Search|Clipboard| indicates a download is
available if that item should be discovered to be missing,
but @ Downloads |W98|Clipboard| only peripheral/adjuncts
to it appear to be mentioned; unless I am misunderstanding
the text.
I am confident the above features were there
originally. I've never laid hands on another pc in my life
so it isn't a case of confusing one with another.

My Q. is: are (any of) these appurtenances retrievable
or is it just another case of 'canis meus id comedit'?



--
Brian A.

Jack of all trades, Master of none.
One can never truly be a master as there is always more to learn.

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Old June 20th 04, 07:07 PM
rooster
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-----Original Message-----
"rooster" wrote in

message
...
When I was given this unit (2nd hand)in Feb., an

OEM
version of W98 was in it, concerted with OE&IE 4.0. I
gradually learned that these accoutrements had something
to do with what made it go and that was good enough for
me. I was so green, I confused vegetarians.
I did not know until recently what an OEM was, much
less that the "Computer Essentials" portion of "Welcome

to
Windows" did not come with it. I offer this as a

prefatory
apologetic to MSNG in case my question(s) might suggest
I'm not doing reasonable homework, when in fact I've

been
spending hours trying to do just that.
A number of features used to be available on my

unit
which seem to have got abducted or purged.


Why do I get the feeling you did a reinstall?

I applied the
SP 6.1(twice; 1st time, Start & its Toolbar didn't

return)
in order to access to a specific feature I needed, viz.
128 encryption, and later I installed MS Security Update
CD.


Did you follow up with the rest of the critical updates

needed after Oct. 2003 from
the MS Update site?

Prior to these operations, I had a "Clipboard" in

my
Accessories menu,


Control Panel Add/Remove Programs Windows Setup tab
Accessories. Is Clipboard
checked? If not it isn't installed. If it is, try

unchecking it Apply Ok out,
reboot and go back and recheck it.

OE had "Spellcheck",


Spellcheck comes along with a text editor when

installed, like MS Word.

My Documents
provided a "Preview" option (Windows Folder still does)


Right click the folder. Is Thumbnail Preview checked?

and something I hadn't gotten around to called "Excel"

is
no longer there, although I have files in something

called
Hello:/C for it.


Excel is part of Office either installed with the Office

Suite or separately. It
does not come with any OS that I know of.

My |Help|Search|Clipboard| indicates a download is
available if that item should be discovered to be

missing,
but @ Downloads |W98|Clipboard| only peripheral/adjuncts
to it appear to be mentioned; unless I am

misunderstanding
the text.
I am confident the above features were there
originally. I've never laid hands on another pc in my

life
so it isn't a case of confusing one with another.

My Q. is: are (any of) these appurtenances

retrievable
or is it just another case of 'canis meus id comedit'?



--
Brian A.

Jack of all trades, Master of none.
One can never truly be a master as there is always more

to learn.



.Brian eh,

I appreciate your and Alan's input. It resolved both
my Clipboad & Documents queries.
But the Spellcheck issue didn't resolve. I laid out
some add'l info specific to your comments which might help
but I am afraid it might be a tad longish.(Surprise!) I
used Wordpad.
If you are still amenable to seeing what might be
done, please let me know via this thread what the best way
to procede is, eg. what buttons do I push to get W'pad
text to where it needs to go?

rooster


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Old June 20th 04, 08:15 PM
Brian A.
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"rooster" wrote in message
...
snipped
(Surprise!) I used Wordpad.


Suprise! As you already know, Wordpad does not have spellchecking. I mentioned MS
Word which is also a part of the MS Office Suite, not Wordpad.
I've always had Office so I never had the need to look for a spellchecker. Do a
search on the web using the words " OE Spellchecker ", there's a couple free ones out
there. Can't help you on which one is better than the other, maybe others will chime
back in.

If you are still amenable to seeing what might be
done, please let me know via this thread what the best way
to procede is, eg. what buttons do I push to get W'pad
text to where it needs to go?


That's a mighty vague question. Are you still talking about spellcheck or are you now
onto cut/copy/paste or something other?


--
Brian A.

Jack of all trades, Master of none.
One can never truly be a master as there is always more to learn.

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Old June 21st 04, 08:36 AM
rooster
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-----Original Message-----
"rooster" wrote in message
...
snipped
(Surprise!) I used Wordpad.


Suprise! As you already know, Wordpad does not have

spellchecking. I mentioned MS
Word which is also a part of the MS Office Suite, not

Wordpad.
I've always had Office so I never had the need to look

for a spellchecker. Do a
search on the web using the words " OE Spellchecker ",

there's a couple free ones out
there. Can't help you on which one is better than the

other, maybe others will chime
back in.

If you are still amenable to seeing what might be
done, please let me know via this thread what the best

way
to procede is, eg. what buttons do I push to get W'pad
text to where it needs to go?


That's a mighty vague question. Are you still talking

about spellcheck or are you now
onto cut/copy/paste or something other?


--
Brian A.

Jack of all trades, Master of none.
One can never truly be a master as there is always more

to learn.

.Brian,

I just discovered W'pad the other day. I had gotten
used to composing in OE, more or less. But I don't
understand how to send contents of W'pad to MSNG,
ie., "What buttons do I push?"
I've already made a blunder or two posting to MSNG, like
hitting "Tab" and sending just a fragment of a post, as
well as losing intended posts altogether while poking
around in other windows for the ingredients.
Hopefully, what I have written there will help
someone provide answers about missing features. It
contains 67 lines of text. I am worried that amount of
text would make me look hoggish in addition to dumb and I
would appreciate being assured I am going about this
correctly, or if alternatives exist.

rooster

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Old June 21st 04, 08:43 PM
Brian A.
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"rooster" wrote in message
...
.Brian,

I just discovered W'pad the other day. I had gotten
used to composing in OE, more or less. But I don't
understand how to send contents of W'pad to MSNG,
ie., "What buttons do I push?"


Wordpad and Notepad ( which you also have ) are bottom bottom of the heap text
editors.
AFAIK there is no way to "Send To" an NG from either. Although you can click on the
menu bar File Send ( at least in the one that comes with XP ). That will open an OE
message window with the file attached and I suggest you don't even go that route,
sending attachments in an NG is a big NO NO unless someone specifically asks for it
which is very rare. Copy/Paste is your best bet from either app and there are several
ways to do it.
Copy/paste the instructions from my second response to this in any of the ways
mentioned, then you have it for future reference. The second response is to help keep
this one shorter.

I've already made a blunder or two posting to MSNG, like
hitting "Tab" and sending just a fragment of a post, as
well as losing intended posts altogether while poking
around in other windows for the ingredients.


Patience and use will make that subside as the days/yrs go by. I still shutdown
apps unintentionally while bouncing between them.

Hopefully, what I have written there will help
someone provide answers about missing features. It
contains 67 lines of text. I am worried that amount of
text would make me look hoggish in addition to dumb and I
would appreciate being assured I am going about this
correctly, or if alternatives exist.


Actually you are better off asking about a few at a time to keep any confusion at a
low. I wouldn't even give looking dumb another thought, we all started out the same
way.

--
Brian A.

Jack of all trades, Master of none.
One can never truly be a master as there is always more to learn.

  #8  
Old June 21st 04, 08:47 PM
Brian A.
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Copy/paste is simple, you can do it several different ways.
#1 is the quickest:
Press CTRL+A------This will hilite all
Press CTRL+C------This will copy all that's hilit
Press CTRL+V------This will paste all that was copied
#2:
Press the left mouse button once at the beginning of the text to be copied.-----This
places the blinking cursor at the beginning of the text to be copied.
Move the mouse pointer to the end of the text to be copied, press/hold down the Shift
key and left click.-----This will hilite all the selected text to be copied.
Use CTRL+C to copy
Use CTRL+V to paste
#3:
Press/hold down the left mouse button and drag it over the text to be
copied.-----This will hilite all selected text to be copied.
Use CTRL+C to copy
Use CTRL+V to paste
#4:
Press/hold down the CTRL key and click on a line or paragraph of text.-----This will
highlite the line or paragraph of text to be copied. It only hilites to the point
where the Enter key was used to begin a new line or paragraph.
Use CTRL+C to copy
Use CTRL+V to paste
#5:
Hilite the text to be copied in any of the 4 ways explained above.
Right click once on the page.
Click on Copy in the popup menu.
In the program/application you want to copy the text, right click and click on Paste
in the popup menu.
#6:
In the program/application you want to copy the text from, hilite the text to be
copied in any of the 4 ways explained above.
Go to Edit on the menu bar at the top of the program/app and click on Copy.
In the program/application you want to paste the text into.
Go to Edit on the menu bar at the top of the program/app and click on Paste.
Pictures/graphics can all be copied/pasted in the same manner. If you ever need to
move text or a graphic in an program/app/document that you created. Cut instead of
Copy. The hotkeys for cut are CTRL+X. Cut is also in the right click popup menu and
in the edit menu. Once Cut, Paste where needed.


--
Brian A.

Jack of all trades, Master of none.
One can never truly be a master as there is always more to learn.

  #9  
Old June 22nd 04, 05:55 PM
rooster
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Brian;
Cosmic!!!
I typed your "methods" into my notepad. I'll try it
out with what I have in W'Pad after I make a few
alt/edits. 'In vita brevis', I know; but it is hard to
know how much background info is germane to eliciting
informed replies when you are as green as spinach.
The optics of this thread compared to others suggest
to me starting a new one. I'll use, "W98: Missing
Features".
I learned about the nix on attachments by reading a
response from another MVP earlier. That's why I didn't
even consider it.

rooster
-----Original Message-----

Copy/paste is simple, you can do it several different

ways.
#1 is the quickest:
Press CTRL+A------This will hilite all
Press CTRL+C------This will copy all that's hilit
Press CTRL+V------This will paste all that was copied
#2:
Press the left mouse button once at the beginning of the

text to be copied.-----This
places the blinking cursor at the beginning of the text

to be copied.
Move the mouse pointer to the end of the text to be

copied, press/hold down the Shift
key and left click.-----This will hilite all the selected

text to be copied.
Use CTRL+C to copy
Use CTRL+V to paste
#3:
Press/hold down the left mouse button and drag it over

the text to be
copied.-----This will hilite all selected text to be

copied.
Use CTRL+C to copy
Use CTRL+V to paste
#4:
Press/hold down the CTRL key and click on a line or

paragraph of text.-----This will
highlite the line or paragraph of text to be copied. It

only hilites to the point
where the Enter key was used to begin a new line or

paragraph.
Use CTRL+C to copy
Use CTRL+V to paste
#5:
Hilite the text to be copied in any of the 4 ways

explained above.
Right click once on the page.
Click on Copy in the popup menu.
In the program/application you want to copy the text,

right click and click on Paste
in the popup menu.
#6:
In the program/application you want to copy the text

from, hilite the text to be
copied in any of the 4 ways explained above.
Go to Edit on the menu bar at the top of the program/app

and click on Copy.
In the program/application you want to paste the text

into.
Go to Edit on the menu bar at the top of the program/app

and click on Paste.
Pictures/graphics can all be copied/pasted in the same

manner. If you ever need to
move text or a graphic in an program/app/document that

you created. Cut instead of
Copy. The hotkeys for cut are CTRL+X. Cut is also in the

right click popup menu and
in the edit menu. Once Cut, Paste where needed.


--
Brian A.

Jack of all trades, Master of none.
One can never truly be a master as there is always more

to learn.

.

  #10  
Old June 22nd 04, 08:29 PM
Brian A.
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Typed? Why didn't you just choose one of the methods to copy/paste?

--
Brian A.

Jack of all trades, Master of none.
One can never truly be a master as there is always more to learn.


"rooster" wrote in message
...
Brian;
Cosmic!!!
I typed your "methods" into my notepad. I'll try it
out with what I have in W'Pad after I make a few
alt/edits. 'In vita brevis', I know; but it is hard to
know how much background info is germane to eliciting
informed replies when you are as green as spinach.
The optics of this thread compared to others suggest
to me starting a new one. I'll use, "W98: Missing
Features".
I learned about the nix on attachments by reading a
response from another MVP earlier. That's why I didn't
even consider it.

rooster
-----Original Message-----

Copy/paste is simple, you can do it several different

ways.
#1 is the quickest:
Press CTRL+A------This will hilite all
Press CTRL+C------This will copy all that's hilit
Press CTRL+V------This will paste all that was copied
#2:
Press the left mouse button once at the beginning of the

text to be copied.-----This
places the blinking cursor at the beginning of the text

to be copied.
Move the mouse pointer to the end of the text to be

copied, press/hold down the Shift
key and left click.-----This will hilite all the selected

text to be copied.
Use CTRL+C to copy
Use CTRL+V to paste
#3:
Press/hold down the left mouse button and drag it over

the text to be
copied.-----This will hilite all selected text to be

copied.
Use CTRL+C to copy
Use CTRL+V to paste
#4:
Press/hold down the CTRL key and click on a line or

paragraph of text.-----This will
highlite the line or paragraph of text to be copied. It

only hilites to the point
where the Enter key was used to begin a new line or

paragraph.
Use CTRL+C to copy
Use CTRL+V to paste
#5:
Hilite the text to be copied in any of the 4 ways

explained above.
Right click once on the page.
Click on Copy in the popup menu.
In the program/application you want to copy the text,

right click and click on Paste
in the popup menu.
#6:
In the program/application you want to copy the text

from, hilite the text to be
copied in any of the 4 ways explained above.
Go to Edit on the menu bar at the top of the program/app

and click on Copy.
In the program/application you want to paste the text

into.
Go to Edit on the menu bar at the top of the program/app

and click on Paste.
Pictures/graphics can all be copied/pasted in the same

manner. If you ever need to
move text or a graphic in an program/app/document that

you created. Cut instead of
Copy. The hotkeys for cut are CTRL+X. Cut is also in the

right click popup menu and
in the edit menu. Once Cut, Paste where needed.


--
Brian A.

Jack of all trades, Master of none.
One can never truly be a master as there is always more

to learn.

.


 




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