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  #1  
Old February 6th 05, 03:42 AM
Job
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Default PING - Mart, Noel, Alan (and Mike)

Ref: Wordpad Problem thread started 1/28/2005 17:16.

Mart, I finally got around to trying your last suggestion:
snipHowever, as a final WAG, try extracting a fresh copy
of wordpad.exe from
WIN_17.CAB in the Widows\Options folder and put it on your
desktop. Then try
running it from there.snip

I attempted to go by KB 129605 How To Extract Original
Compressed Windows Files but as happens too often for me I
found the instructions confusing.

Luckily I had a printout handy of a Mike Maltby 12/08/2004
06:11 post to the windowsme.systemtools that was much
clearer and I quote:
"use MSConfig (Start I Run and enter MSConfig in the box and
click OK). On the General tab you will find "Extract
File...", click this, enter the name of the file to be
extracted and click OK. If asked enter the location of the
Win Me cab files (C:\Windows\Options\Cabs or
C:\Windows\Options\lnstall or in your case the folder on
your CD, H:\Wingx) and the location where you want to place
the extracted file and then click OK."

I specified Desktop as the location to place the extracted
file, double clicked the wordpad.exe on the Desktop and
Wordpad opened right up. So Mart, your final WAG was a real
winner.

Thanks to all that helped me with this problem. Now I plan
on deleting wordpad/wordpad.exe from all locations (except
current Desktop), creating a C:\WINDOWS\Wordpad folder and
moving the wordpad.exe from the Desktop to this new folder.
Is this a correct thing to do??

P.S. Is this PING a proper way to provide feedback to a
thread several days old?




  #2  
Old February 6th 05, 05:27 AM
Alan Edwards
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default


Well done!
You really didn't need to use KB 129605 as you knew it was in
Win_17.cab and you could have just opened that and extracted
Wordpad.exe but the method Mike suggested is the standard way and is
outlined in KB 129605 (once you sort out the chaff)

Where to put it?
You might find it easier to put Wordpad.exe where it is normally, as
you will have shortcuts and associations pointing to it there.

C:\Program Files\Accessories\WORDPAD.EXE

Your PING seems OK to me. I think all four of us will see it clearly.

....Alan
--
Alan Edwards, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/index.html

In microsoft.public.windowsme.software, "Job" wrote:

Ref: Wordpad Problem thread started 1/28/2005 17:16.

Mart, I finally got around to trying your last suggestion:
snipHowever, as a final WAG, try extracting a fresh copy
of wordpad.exe from
WIN_17.CAB in the Widows\Options folder and put it on your
desktop. Then try
running it from there.snip

I attempted to go by KB 129605 How To Extract Original
Compressed Windows Files but as happens too often for me I
found the instructions confusing.

Luckily I had a printout handy of a Mike Maltby 12/08/2004
06:11 post to the windowsme.systemtools that was much
clearer and I quote:
"use MSConfig (Start I Run and enter MSConfig in the box and
click OK). On the General tab you will find "Extract
File...", click this, enter the name of the file to be
extracted and click OK. If asked enter the location of the
Win Me cab files (C:\Windows\Options\Cabs or
C:\Windows\Options\lnstall or in your case the folder on
your CD, H:\Wingx) and the location where you want to place
the extracted file and then click OK."

I specified Desktop as the location to place the extracted
file, double clicked the wordpad.exe on the Desktop and
Wordpad opened right up. So Mart, your final WAG was a real
winner.

Thanks to all that helped me with this problem. Now I plan
on deleting wordpad/wordpad.exe from all locations (except
current Desktop), creating a C:\WINDOWS\Wordpad folder and
moving the wordpad.exe from the Desktop to this new folder.
Is this a correct thing to do??

P.S. Is this PING a proper way to provide feedback to a
thread several days old?




  #3  
Old February 6th 05, 06:13 AM
Job
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Default

Thanks for the response Alan.

I had to use some instructions as I have never done any
extracting of files. Mike's method is clear cut, simple and
idiot proof. As for KB 129605, IMO it has a lot of CHAFF.
g

Your recommendation of "where to put it" makes sense.
Cheers.
"Alan Edwards" wrote in message
...

Well done!
You really didn't need to use KB 129605 as you knew it was

in
Win_17.cab and you could have just opened that and

extracted
Wordpad.exe but the method Mike suggested is the standard

way and is
outlined in KB 129605 (once you sort out the chaff)

Where to put it?
You might find it easier to put Wordpad.exe where it is

normally, as
you will have shortcuts and associations pointing to it

there.

C:\Program Files\Accessories\WORDPAD.EXE

Your PING seems OK to me. I think all four of us will see

it clearly.

...Alan
--
Alan Edwards, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/index.html

In microsoft.public.windowsme.software, "Job"

wrote:

Ref: Wordpad Problem thread started 1/28/2005 17:16.

Mart, I finally got around to trying your last

suggestion:
snipHowever, as a final WAG, try extracting a fresh

copy
of wordpad.exe from
WIN_17.CAB in the Widows\Options folder and put it on

your
desktop. Then try
running it from there.snip

I attempted to go by KB 129605 How To Extract Original
Compressed Windows Files but as happens too often for me

I
found the instructions confusing.

Luckily I had a printout handy of a Mike Maltby

12/08/2004
06:11 post to the windowsme.systemtools that was much
clearer and I quote:
"use MSConfig (Start I Run and enter MSConfig in the box

and
click OK). On the General tab you will find "Extract
File...", click this, enter the name of the file to be
extracted and click OK. If asked enter the location of

the
Win Me cab files (C:\Windows\Options\Cabs or
C:\Windows\Options\lnstall or in your case the folder on
your CD, H:\Wingx) and the location where you want to

place
the extracted file and then click OK."

I specified Desktop as the location to place the

extracted
file, double clicked the wordpad.exe on the Desktop and
Wordpad opened right up. So Mart, your final WAG was a

real
winner.

Thanks to all that helped me with this problem. Now I

plan
on deleting wordpad/wordpad.exe from all locations

(except
current Desktop), creating a C:\WINDOWS\Wordpad folder

and
moving the wordpad.exe from the Desktop to this new

folder.
Is this a correct thing to do??

P.S. Is this PING a proper way to provide feedback to a
thread several days old?






  #4  
Old February 6th 05, 12:06 PM
Mike M
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Default

I'm pleased to read that you've fixed your WordPad problems and to have
indirectly been able to help.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



Job wrote:

Thanks for the response Alan.

I had to use some instructions as I have never done any
extracting of files. Mike's method is clear cut, simple and
idiot proof. As for KB 129605, IMO it has a lot of CHAFF.
g


  #5  
Old February 6th 05, 12:23 PM
Mart
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Default

Job, it's good to hear that my WAG worked - but in fairness, it was more of
an 'inspired guess' than a 'WA' one g I'm pretty sure that I had come
across this (or a very similar) situation before - very feint bells were
ringing.

Regarding extracting files. If Noel hadn't beat me in responding to you
question as to whether you should copy or extract the file from the CAB
folder, I would have suggested copy and pasting to your Desktop (which would
have also extracted or 'expanded' it in the process). However, Noel (not
Mike g), quite rightly and wisely, gave you the 'correct' - official -
response.

I frequently copy and paste some of these WinMe files from my CAB files onto
my desktop and then delete them for various reasons e.g. to confirm sizes,
versions, dates, try-out, etc., when researching for these News Group
replies and have NEVER had an issue with SFP in this respect. BUT - maybe
I've just been lucky g

Which reminds me of another feint bell. I'm sure that there was a 'utility'
or maybe a 'short procedure' kicking around when WinMe first came out that
'demonstrated' how SFP worked. It let you 'try' to delete a protected file
and a couple of seconds later would advise you that the file had been
restored. I can't find it now of course, but wonder if any of the other
'old-timers' remember it - or even have a copy/details.

Now back to your ORIGINAL copy of WORDPAD.EXE. If you still have it (not
deleted it yet!) take a look at its Properties and see how it compares with
your 'new' copy (esp. length). It *might* give you a clue as to what went
wrong with the original copy.

Mart


"Job" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the response Alan.

I had to use some instructions as I have never done any
extracting of files. Mike's method is clear cut, simple and
idiot proof. As for KB 129605, IMO it has a lot of CHAFF.
g

Your recommendation of "where to put it" makes sense.
Cheers.
"Alan Edwards" wrote in message
...

Well done!
You really didn't need to use KB 129605 as you knew it was

in
Win_17.cab and you could have just opened that and

extracted
Wordpad.exe but the method Mike suggested is the standard

way and is
outlined in KB 129605 (once you sort out the chaff)

Where to put it?
You might find it easier to put Wordpad.exe where it is

normally, as
you will have shortcuts and associations pointing to it

there.

C:\Program Files\Accessories\WORDPAD.EXE

Your PING seems OK to me. I think all four of us will see

it clearly.

...Alan
--
Alan Edwards, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/index.html

In microsoft.public.windowsme.software, "Job"

wrote:

Ref: Wordpad Problem thread started 1/28/2005 17:16.

Mart, I finally got around to trying your last

suggestion:
snipHowever, as a final WAG, try extracting a fresh

copy
of wordpad.exe from
WIN_17.CAB in the Widows\Options folder and put it on

your
desktop. Then try
running it from there.snip

I attempted to go by KB 129605 How To Extract Original
Compressed Windows Files but as happens too often for me

I
found the instructions confusing.

Luckily I had a printout handy of a Mike Maltby

12/08/2004
06:11 post to the windowsme.systemtools that was much
clearer and I quote:
"use MSConfig (Start I Run and enter MSConfig in the box

and
click OK). On the General tab you will find "Extract
File...", click this, enter the name of the file to be
extracted and click OK. If asked enter the location of

the
Win Me cab files (C:\Windows\Options\Cabs or
C:\Windows\Options\lnstall or in your case the folder on
your CD, H:\Wingx) and the location where you want to

place
the extracted file and then click OK."

I specified Desktop as the location to place the

extracted
file, double clicked the wordpad.exe on the Desktop and
Wordpad opened right up. So Mart, your final WAG was a

real
winner.

Thanks to all that helped me with this problem. Now I

plan
on deleting wordpad/wordpad.exe from all locations

(except
current Desktop), creating a C:\WINDOWS\Wordpad folder

and
moving the wordpad.exe from the Desktop to this new

folder.
Is this a correct thing to do??

P.S. Is this PING a proper way to provide feedback to a
thread several days old?








  #6  
Old February 6th 05, 12:30 PM
Mart
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Indeed Mike, Indirectly = Seed Planting!

If it wasn't for you - and some of the other regulars - we may have lost
interest these groups years ago.

Mart


"Mike M" wrote in message
...
I'm pleased to read that you've fixed your WordPad problems and to have
indirectly been able to help.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



Job wrote:

Thanks for the response Alan.

I had to use some instructions as I have never done any
extracting of files. Mike's method is clear cut, simple and
idiot proof. As for KB 129605, IMO it has a lot of CHAFF.
g




  #7  
Old February 6th 05, 01:11 PM
Mart
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BTW - Omitted to discuss your penultimate paragraph. Alan's advice on the
(final) location of wordpad.exe is quite correct. I only suggested the
desktop for you to try it to see if it worked. Thus, implying that the
'original' was faulty - but see my previous response comparisons.

Mart


"Mart" wrote in message
...
Job, it's good to hear that my WAG worked - but in fairness, it was more
of an 'inspired guess' than a 'WA' one g I'm pretty sure that I had come
across this (or a very similar) situation before - very feint bells were
ringing.

Regarding extracting files. If Noel hadn't beat me in responding to you
question as to whether you should copy or extract the file from the CAB
folder, I would have suggested copy and pasting to your Desktop (which
would have also extracted or 'expanded' it in the process). However, Noel
(not Mike g), quite rightly and wisely, gave you the 'correct' -
official - response.

I frequently copy and paste some of these WinMe files from my CAB files
onto my desktop and then delete them for various reasons e.g. to confirm
sizes, versions, dates, try-out, etc., when researching for these News
Group replies and have NEVER had an issue with SFP in this respect. BUT -
maybe I've just been lucky g

Which reminds me of another feint bell. I'm sure that there was a
'utility' or maybe a 'short procedure' kicking around when WinMe first
came out that 'demonstrated' how SFP worked. It let you 'try' to delete a
protected file and a couple of seconds later would advise you that the
file had been restored. I can't find it now of course, but wonder if any
of the other 'old-timers' remember it - or even have a copy/details.

Now back to your ORIGINAL copy of WORDPAD.EXE. If you still have it (not
deleted it yet!) take a look at its Properties and see how it compares
with your 'new' copy (esp. length). It *might* give you a clue as to what
went wrong with the original copy.

Mart


"Job" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the response Alan.

I had to use some instructions as I have never done any
extracting of files. Mike's method is clear cut, simple and
idiot proof. As for KB 129605, IMO it has a lot of CHAFF.
g

Your recommendation of "where to put it" makes sense.
Cheers.
"Alan Edwards" wrote in message
...

Well done!
You really didn't need to use KB 129605 as you knew it was

in
Win_17.cab and you could have just opened that and

extracted
Wordpad.exe but the method Mike suggested is the standard

way and is
outlined in KB 129605 (once you sort out the chaff)

Where to put it?
You might find it easier to put Wordpad.exe where it is

normally, as
you will have shortcuts and associations pointing to it

there.

C:\Program Files\Accessories\WORDPAD.EXE

Your PING seems OK to me. I think all four of us will see

it clearly.

...Alan
--
Alan Edwards, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/index.html

In microsoft.public.windowsme.software, "Job"

wrote:

Ref: Wordpad Problem thread started 1/28/2005 17:16.

Mart, I finally got around to trying your last

suggestion:
snipHowever, as a final WAG, try extracting a fresh

copy
of wordpad.exe from
WIN_17.CAB in the Widows\Options folder and put it on

your
desktop. Then try
running it from there.snip

I attempted to go by KB 129605 How To Extract Original
Compressed Windows Files but as happens too often for me

I
found the instructions confusing.

Luckily I had a printout handy of a Mike Maltby

12/08/2004
06:11 post to the windowsme.systemtools that was much
clearer and I quote:
"use MSConfig (Start I Run and enter MSConfig in the box

and
click OK). On the General tab you will find "Extract
File...", click this, enter the name of the file to be
extracted and click OK. If asked enter the location of

the
Win Me cab files (C:\Windows\Options\Cabs or
C:\Windows\Options\lnstall or in your case the folder on
your CD, H:\Wingx) and the location where you want to

place
the extracted file and then click OK."

I specified Desktop as the location to place the

extracted
file, double clicked the wordpad.exe on the Desktop and
Wordpad opened right up. So Mart, your final WAG was a

real
winner.

Thanks to all that helped me with this problem. Now I

plan
on deleting wordpad/wordpad.exe from all locations

(except
current Desktop), creating a C:\WINDOWS\Wordpad folder

and
moving the wordpad.exe from the Desktop to this new

folder.
Is this a correct thing to do??

P.S. Is this PING a proper way to provide feedback to a
thread several days old?










  #8  
Old February 6th 05, 04:42 PM
Job
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Default

Okay Mart,

Results of the compare shows same version, length, etc. for
both the original and the new extracted file. The only
difference I can see is that the original file in C:\Program
Files\Accessories is named WORDPAD.EXE while the new
extracted file on the Desktop and in the .CAB is named
wordpad.exe.

Would the "all caps" name be the cause of the problem?

"Mart" wrote in message
...
Job, it's good to hear that my WAG worked - but in

fairness, it was more of
an 'inspired guess' than a 'WA' one g I'm pretty sure

that I had come
across this (or a very similar) situation before - very

feint bells were
ringing.

Regarding extracting files. If Noel hadn't beat me in

responding to you
question as to whether you should copy or extract the file

from the CAB
folder, I would have suggested copy and pasting to your

Desktop (which would
have also extracted or 'expanded' it in the process).

However, Noel (not
Mike g), quite rightly and wisely, gave you the

'correct' - official -
response.

I frequently copy and paste some of these WinMe files from

my CAB files onto
my desktop and then delete them for various reasons e.g.

to confirm sizes,
versions, dates, try-out, etc., when researching for these

News Group
replies and have NEVER had an issue with SFP in this

respect. BUT - maybe
I've just been lucky g

Which reminds me of another feint bell. I'm sure that

there was a 'utility'
or maybe a 'short procedure' kicking around when WinMe

first came out that
'demonstrated' how SFP worked. It let you 'try' to delete

a protected file
and a couple of seconds later would advise you that the

file had been
restored. I can't find it now of course, but wonder if any

of the other
'old-timers' remember it - or even have a copy/details.

Now back to your ORIGINAL copy of WORDPAD.EXE. If you

still have it (not
deleted it yet!) take a look at its Properties and see how

it compares with
your 'new' copy (esp. length). It *might* give you a clue

as to what went
wrong with the original copy.

Mart


"Job" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the response Alan.

I had to use some instructions as I have never done any
extracting of files. Mike's method is clear cut, simple

and
idiot proof. As for KB 129605, IMO it has a lot of

CHAFF.
g

Your recommendation of "where to put it" makes sense.
Cheers.
"Alan Edwards" wrote in

message
...

Well done!
You really didn't need to use KB 129605 as you knew it

was
in
Win_17.cab and you could have just opened that and

extracted
Wordpad.exe but the method Mike suggested is the

standard
way and is
outlined in KB 129605 (once you sort out the chaff)

Where to put it?
You might find it easier to put Wordpad.exe where it is

normally, as
you will have shortcuts and associations pointing to it

there.

C:\Program Files\Accessories\WORDPAD.EXE

Your PING seems OK to me. I think all four of us will

see
it clearly.

...Alan
--
Alan Edwards, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/index.html

In microsoft.public.windowsme.software, "Job"

wrote:

Ref: Wordpad Problem thread started 1/28/2005 17:16.

Mart, I finally got around to trying your last

suggestion:
snipHowever, as a final WAG, try extracting a fresh

copy
of wordpad.exe from
WIN_17.CAB in the Widows\Options folder and put it on

your
desktop. Then try
running it from there.snip

I attempted to go by KB 129605 How To Extract Original
Compressed Windows Files but as happens too often for

me
I
found the instructions confusing.

Luckily I had a printout handy of a Mike Maltby

12/08/2004
06:11 post to the windowsme.systemtools that was much
clearer and I quote:
"use MSConfig (Start I Run and enter MSConfig in the

box
and
click OK). On the General tab you will find "Extract
File...", click this, enter the name of the file to be
extracted and click OK. If asked enter the location of

the
Win Me cab files (C:\Windows\Options\Cabs or
C:\Windows\Options\lnstall or in your case the folder

on
your CD, H:\Wingx) and the location where you want to

place
the extracted file and then click OK."

I specified Desktop as the location to place the

extracted
file, double clicked the wordpad.exe on the Desktop

and
Wordpad opened right up. So Mart, your final WAG was

a
real
winner.

Thanks to all that helped me with this problem. Now I

plan
on deleting wordpad/wordpad.exe from all locations

(except
current Desktop), creating a C:\WINDOWS\Wordpad folder

and
moving the wordpad.exe from the Desktop to this new

folder.
Is this a correct thing to do??

P.S. Is this PING a proper way to provide feedback to

a
thread several days old?










  #9  
Old February 6th 05, 06:16 PM
Mart
external usenet poster
 
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Default

Would the "all caps" name be the cause of the problem?

No, it's not case sensitive. - (or *shouldn't* be!)

However, now that you've 'sorted' the problem, it might be an interesting
experiment to see if you can now run the OLD wordpad.exe file, if necessary
by putting (copying or moving) it to the desktop. ***

If so, I just wonder if we've missed something in the (original?) shortcut.
Have you by any chance, made a new shortcut?

*** Ah! - I've just noticed your line:- ***
.. the new extracted file on the Desktop ..


So, you haven't YET moved/replaced it to the C:\Program Files\Accessories\
folder as suggested by Alan.

Mmm.. a shortcut or path issue now looks possible.

Mart


"Job" wrote in message
...
Okay Mart,

Results of the compare shows same version, length, etc. for
both the original and the new extracted file. The only
difference I can see is that the original file in C:\Program
Files\Accessories is named WORDPAD.EXE while the new
extracted file on the Desktop and in the .CAB is named
wordpad.exe.

Would the "all caps" name be the cause of the problem?

"Mart" wrote in message
...
Job, it's good to hear that my WAG worked - but in

fairness, it was more of
an 'inspired guess' than a 'WA' one g I'm pretty sure

that I had come
across this (or a very similar) situation before - very

feint bells were
ringing.

Regarding extracting files. If Noel hadn't beat me in

responding to you
question as to whether you should copy or extract the file

from the CAB
folder, I would have suggested copy and pasting to your

Desktop (which would
have also extracted or 'expanded' it in the process).

However, Noel (not
Mike g), quite rightly and wisely, gave you the

'correct' - official -
response.

I frequently copy and paste some of these WinMe files from

my CAB files onto
my desktop and then delete them for various reasons e.g.

to confirm sizes,
versions, dates, try-out, etc., when researching for these

News Group
replies and have NEVER had an issue with SFP in this

respect. BUT - maybe
I've just been lucky g

Which reminds me of another feint bell. I'm sure that

there was a 'utility'
or maybe a 'short procedure' kicking around when WinMe

first came out that
'demonstrated' how SFP worked. It let you 'try' to delete

a protected file
and a couple of seconds later would advise you that the

file had been
restored. I can't find it now of course, but wonder if any

of the other
'old-timers' remember it - or even have a copy/details.

Now back to your ORIGINAL copy of WORDPAD.EXE. If you

still have it (not
deleted it yet!) take a look at its Properties and see how

it compares with
your 'new' copy (esp. length). It *might* give you a clue

as to what went
wrong with the original copy.

Mart


"Job" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the response Alan.

I had to use some instructions as I have never done any
extracting of files. Mike's method is clear cut, simple

and
idiot proof. As for KB 129605, IMO it has a lot of

CHAFF.
g

Your recommendation of "where to put it" makes sense.
Cheers.
"Alan Edwards" wrote in

message
...

Well done!
You really didn't need to use KB 129605 as you knew it

was
in
Win_17.cab and you could have just opened that and
extracted
Wordpad.exe but the method Mike suggested is the

standard
way and is
outlined in KB 129605 (once you sort out the chaff)

Where to put it?
You might find it easier to put Wordpad.exe where it is
normally, as
you will have shortcuts and associations pointing to it
there.

C:\Program Files\Accessories\WORDPAD.EXE

Your PING seems OK to me. I think all four of us will

see
it clearly.

...Alan
--
Alan Edwards, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/index.html

In microsoft.public.windowsme.software, "Job"
wrote:

Ref: Wordpad Problem thread started 1/28/2005 17:16.

Mart, I finally got around to trying your last
suggestion:
snipHowever, as a final WAG, try extracting a fresh
copy
of wordpad.exe from
WIN_17.CAB in the Widows\Options folder and put it on
your
desktop. Then try
running it from there.snip

I attempted to go by KB 129605 How To Extract Original
Compressed Windows Files but as happens too often for

me
I
found the instructions confusing.

Luckily I had a printout handy of a Mike Maltby
12/08/2004
06:11 post to the windowsme.systemtools that was much
clearer and I quote:
"use MSConfig (Start I Run and enter MSConfig in the

box
and
click OK). On the General tab you will find "Extract
File...", click this, enter the name of the file to be
extracted and click OK. If asked enter the location of
the
Win Me cab files (C:\Windows\Options\Cabs or
C:\Windows\Options\lnstall or in your case the folder

on
your CD, H:\Wingx) and the location where you want to
place
the extracted file and then click OK."

I specified Desktop as the location to place the
extracted
file, double clicked the wordpad.exe on the Desktop

and
Wordpad opened right up. So Mart, your final WAG was

a
real
winner.

Thanks to all that helped me with this problem. Now I
plan
on deleting wordpad/wordpad.exe from all locations
(except
current Desktop), creating a C:\WINDOWS\Wordpad folder
and
moving the wordpad.exe from the Desktop to this new
folder.
Is this a correct thing to do??

P.S. Is this PING a proper way to provide feedback to

a
thread several days old?












  #10  
Old February 6th 05, 09:43 PM
Job
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Update Mart,

I went ahead and:
-deleted the original WORDPAD.EXE from \Program
Files\Accessories
-copied the new extracted wordpad.exe from Desktop to
\Programs Files
\Accessories and then deleted it from Desktop
-copied original WORDPAD.EXE from Recycle Bin to Desktop
-double clicked WORDPAD.EXE icon on Desktop and got the
message
"Wordpad has caused an error in unknown.

Don't know if this gives you any worthwhile data but, bottom
line, I can now go to Program Files\Accessories and click on
Wordpad and it opens up like it should.

Lessons learned from this successful experience:
I know how to extract compressed files and there are
various ways to extract.
The KB 129605, which I find very confusing.
The Mike Maltby method.
Yours and Noel's just copy and paste (which would
extract in the process)
The right click on the file within the CAB folder, then
select Extract.
I have a small understanding of what is in OPTIONS\INSTALL
folder (very
helpful since I don't have the ME disks)

Thanks again to all for your help. Now I'm off to the
general newsgroup to submit a post regarding Temporary
Internet Files.

Job says, "I'm as happy as a clam!"

"Mart" wrote in message
...
Would the "all caps" name be the cause of the problem?


No, it's not case sensitive. - (or *shouldn't* be!)

However, now that you've 'sorted' the problem, it might be

an interesting
experiment to see if you can now run the OLD wordpad.exe

file, if necessary
by putting (copying or moving) it to the desktop. ***

If so, I just wonder if we've missed something in the

(original?) shortcut.
Have you by any chance, made a new shortcut?

*** Ah! - I've just noticed your line:- ***
.. the new extracted file on the Desktop ..


So, you haven't YET moved/replaced it to the C:\Program

Files\Accessories\
folder as suggested by Alan.

Mmm.. a shortcut or path issue now looks possible.

Mart


"Job" wrote in message
...
Okay Mart,

Results of the compare shows same version, length, etc.

for
both the original and the new extracted file. The only
difference I can see is that the original file in

C:\Program
Files\Accessories is named WORDPAD.EXE while the new
extracted file on the Desktop and in the .CAB is named
wordpad.exe.

Would the "all caps" name be the cause of the problem?

"Mart" wrote in message
...
Job, it's good to hear that my WAG worked - but in

fairness, it was more of
an 'inspired guess' than a 'WA' one g I'm pretty sure

that I had come
across this (or a very similar) situation before - very

feint bells were
ringing.

Regarding extracting files. If Noel hadn't beat me in

responding to you
question as to whether you should copy or extract the

file
from the CAB
folder, I would have suggested copy and pasting to your

Desktop (which would
have also extracted or 'expanded' it in the process).

However, Noel (not
Mike g), quite rightly and wisely, gave you the

'correct' - official -
response.

I frequently copy and paste some of these WinMe files

from
my CAB files onto
my desktop and then delete them for various reasons

e.g.
to confirm sizes,
versions, dates, try-out, etc., when researching for

these
News Group
replies and have NEVER had an issue with SFP in this

respect. BUT - maybe
I've just been lucky g

Which reminds me of another feint bell. I'm sure that

there was a 'utility'
or maybe a 'short procedure' kicking around when WinMe

first came out that
'demonstrated' how SFP worked. It let you 'try' to

delete
a protected file
and a couple of seconds later would advise you that the

file had been
restored. I can't find it now of course, but wonder if

any
of the other
'old-timers' remember it - or even have a copy/details.

Now back to your ORIGINAL copy of WORDPAD.EXE. If you

still have it (not
deleted it yet!) take a look at its Properties and see

how
it compares with
your 'new' copy (esp. length). It *might* give you a

clue
as to what went
wrong with the original copy.

Mart


"Job" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the response Alan.

I had to use some instructions as I have never done

any
extracting of files. Mike's method is clear cut,

simple
and
idiot proof. As for KB 129605, IMO it has a lot of

CHAFF.
g

Your recommendation of "where to put it" makes sense.
Cheers.
"Alan Edwards" wrote in

message
...

Well done!
You really didn't need to use KB 129605 as you knew

it
was
in
Win_17.cab and you could have just opened that and
extracted
Wordpad.exe but the method Mike suggested is the

standard
way and is
outlined in KB 129605 (once you sort out the chaff)

Where to put it?
You might find it easier to put Wordpad.exe where it

is
normally, as
you will have shortcuts and associations pointing to

it
there.

C:\Program Files\Accessories\WORDPAD.EXE

Your PING seems OK to me. I think all four of us

will
see
it clearly.

...Alan
--
Alan Edwards, MS MVP W95/98 Systems
http://dts-l.org/index.html

In microsoft.public.windowsme.software, "Job"
wrote:

Ref: Wordpad Problem thread started 1/28/2005

17:16.

Mart, I finally got around to trying your last
suggestion:
snipHowever, as a final WAG, try extracting a

fresh
copy
of wordpad.exe from
WIN_17.CAB in the Widows\Options folder and put it

on
your
desktop. Then try
running it from there.snip

I attempted to go by KB 129605 How To Extract

Original
Compressed Windows Files but as happens too often

for
me
I
found the instructions confusing.

Luckily I had a printout handy of a Mike Maltby
12/08/2004
06:11 post to the windowsme.systemtools that was

much
clearer and I quote:
"use MSConfig (Start I Run and enter MSConfig in

the
box
and
click OK). On the General tab you will find

"Extract
File...", click this, enter the name of the file to

be
extracted and click OK. If asked enter the location

of
the
Win Me cab files (C:\Windows\Options\Cabs or
C:\Windows\Options\lnstall or in your case the

folder
on
your CD, H:\Wingx) and the location where you want

to
place
the extracted file and then click OK."

I specified Desktop as the location to place the
extracted
file, double clicked the wordpad.exe on the Desktop

and
Wordpad opened right up. So Mart, your final WAG

was
a
real
winner.

Thanks to all that helped me with this problem.

Now I
plan
on deleting wordpad/wordpad.exe from all locations
(except
current Desktop), creating a C:\WINDOWS\Wordpad

folder
and
moving the wordpad.exe from the Desktop to this new
folder.
Is this a correct thing to do??

P.S. Is this PING a proper way to provide feedback

to
a
thread several days old?














 




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