873009 Update will not install [correction=> 837009]

I would recommend Uninstalling Norton simply because it has so many hooks
into the registry that its behaviour is unpredictable at best, and
critically insane at worst.
What is certain is that having Norton running when installing IE will
prevent proper installation - my suspicion is that having it running while
uninstalling IE will do the same.
One of the biggest problems with Norton software (apart from its
hoggishness) is that it all uses LiveUpdate - and LU is known to cause
problems under certain circumstances.

You're performing microsurgery on the OS - do you really want the theatre
swimming in bacteria??

I would also recommend NOT reinstalling Norton after the operation - Ghost
is fine, and WinFax Pro is fine but al the other stuff is overblown,
overhyped, and has too many hooks into the system with resulting problems
that ensue if the slightest thing goes wrong. Free alternatives are
available for almost all the functions of NSW - and many behave a lot better
than those in NSW.

I have not tested the procedure in the presence of Norton.

--
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"ForestSpirit" wrote in message
...
--------------------------------------------
NORTON SYSTEMWORKS 2004 PRO
-Norton AntiVirus
-Norton CleanSweep
-Norton Ghost
-Norton Password Manager
-Norton Utilities
WINFAX PRO 10.03
--------------------------------------------
If you're using Norton Software of ANY kind, I recommend UNINSTALLING it
before proceeding!!!

Please explain why you think ALL Norton programs must be uninstalled,
rather
than just disabling their options and their startup entries in MSCONFIG,
before running IEradicator. I assume you have some troubleshooting
experience with Norton, so tell me what specific problems you anticipate.
There may be workarounds.

Uninstalling and reinstalling WinFax is simple, but I'd rather not
uninstall
SystemWorks due to possible problems activating it again after reinstall
and
the complexities of uninstalling, reinstalling, and reconfiguring it. If
the
problems Norton has with IEradicator are just related to virus definition
corruption and email protection, that's an easy fix. The removal of the
BHO
in Internet Explorer may also be repairable. Most of Norton's protections
can be disabled by options within the suite, and its MSCONFIG entries can
be
unchecked temporarily.
1. Symantec Core LC (Norton AntiVirus, not sure what it does)
2. NPROTECT (Norton Protected Recycle Bin)
*There may be 2 MSCONFIG entries. Disable both.*
3. QD FastAndSafe (Norton CleanSweep/One Button Checkup/WinDoctor)
*There may be 2 MSCONFIG entries. Disable both.*
4. ccApp (Common Client/Norton AntiVirus AutoProtect & Email
Check)
5. AcctMgr (Norton Password Manager)
6. GhostStartTrayApp (Norton Ghost System Tray Access)
7. ScriptBlocking (Norton AntiVirus ScriptBlocking)
8. ccEvtMgr (Common Client/Event Manager for scheduling scans)
9. ccSetMgr (Common Client/Norton AntiVirus, not sure what it
does)
10. GhostStartService (Norton Ghost)
11. CSINJECT.EXE (Norton CleanSweep/SmartSweep, monitors installs)
12. SymTray - Norton SystemWorks (groups Norton tray icons)

Is there any way Norton could remain installed while we remove and
reinstall
IE/OE -- if I don't try to open or run any of its programs until IE/OE
are
reinstalled? I've never had any problems with SystemWorks I haven't been
able to fix and there has been no reason to uninstall it. The problems
I've
had have been with IE, OE, Windows, or other programs. If uninstalling
Norton first is the ONLY way (if it will get screwed up royally regardless
of any precautions taken), then I will (deep sigh) have to uninstall it,
as
I have uninstalled Microsoft Office.

After IE is fixed and Norton is reinstalled, activation will be the next
hurdle. If it fails, that will mean being on hold for a Symantec customer
service agent for 30 minutes or more to get them to reset my product key
count so the program can be reactivated. If they won't reset it then I
can't
activate it. It will have to be removed. I'll have to go back to Norton
SystemWorks 2003, which does not require activation but does not have
Norton
Password Manager. Going back to it will mean a lot of extra surgery to the
operating system and Windows registry to delete all NSW 2004 references
manually, an unfortunate but often necessary step. That's another reason
why
I don't want to uninstall SystemWorks! Please tell me your thoughts on
this.

apart from the fact that there are a number of IE ( and other) patches
missing, that hotfix report looks fairly normal.

AFAIK, there's only a need for one version (1.1 - and the patch for it) of
NF - it us an update to 1.0, and so contains all the functionality of the
earlier version. If you find that a program requires NF1.0 rather than 1.1,
then that is because that program uses undocumented functionality (i.e. a
bug) in NF1.0

Which version of Office are you installing? Office 2000 and XP already
install Jet 4SP8.
http://support.microsoft.com/?KBID=829558
contains a link to the update for ME.

--
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"ForestSpirit" wrote in message
...
----------------------------
Belarc Advisor 6.1f
http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html

Installed Microsoft Hotfixes
----------------------------
Legend:
(C) Marks a HotFix that verifies correctly
(X) Marks a HotFix that fails verification (Failing hotfixes need to be
reinstalled)
( ) Unmarked HotFixes lack the data to allow verification

Notes:
Since I can't type a check mark, I am using (C) instead.
Since I can't type a blank space, I am using ( ) instead.
This is only the most relevant portion of the Belarc report.
Nothing below has an (X), but there are some ( ).

Comments:
I don't know if there is supposed to be a mark next to
1.0 and 1.1 of .NET Framework or just for their hotfixes.
I don't know if there is supposed to be a mark for SP1
under Internet Explorer or just for its hotfixes.
I do not understand the -25 after Q329414.

.NET Framework
( ) 1.0
( ) S867461 on 12/29/2004
( ) 1.1
( ) S867460 on 1/9/2005
DataAccess
( ) Q329414-25 on 1/9/2005
Internet Explorer
( ) SP1
( ) Q887797
( ) Q889293
MSXML4
( ) Q317244 on 1/9/2005
Windows Media Player
(C) WM828026
(C) KB837272
WinME
(C) UPD273017
(C) UPD273991
(C) UPD290700
(C) UPD329115
(C) UPDQ823559
(C) UPD890175

-------------------------------
.NET FRAMEWORK 1.0/1.1 (and their service packs)
http://msdn.microsoft.com/netframewo...s/default.aspx
-------------------------------
From the above Belarc info, NF 1.0/1.1 may "lack the data to allow
verification" since there is nothing beside them or beside their hotfixes.
Maybe there isn't supposed to be a mark beside them, just beside their
hotfixes. What do you think? Should I completely uninstall NF1.0 and 1.1
and
reinstall them after IE is fixed, or should I leave them alone? There are
entries for .NET Framework in Internet Options, so I don't know how .NET
Framework will be affected by the removal of IE. The reason both .NET
Framework versions are installed is because some of my programs require
1.0
and others require 1.1.

If I must uninstall and reinstall both .NET Frameworks, I may need help
reinstalling them. There was an error message last time, and I had to
consult the Microsoft Knowledge Base to get it to install. (Whatever error
it was, it was an easy fix.)

------------
MDAC 2.8
------------
This will have to be reinstalled after IE is reinstalled.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en

-------------------------------------------
JAVA VIRUAL MACHINE (VM) 3810
-------------------------------------------
This will have to be reinstalled after IE is reinstalled.
http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.co...en/default.asp

----------------------
Jet40SP7 v Jet40SP8
----------------------

Will SP8 work on Windows Me? It isn't specifically listed as a supported
OS,
and there is not a separate download for Windows Me. If there is, where is
it? If not, then SP7 is still the latest for Windows Me.

Jet 4.0 Service Pack 8 (SP8) for Windows 95/98/NT 4.0 (KB829558)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

File Name: Jet40SP8_9xNT.exe
Download Size: 3782 KB
Date Published: 12/9/2003
Version: 4.0.7328
Supported OS: Windows 98 Second Edition, Windows NT
This update applies to: Windows 95, Windows 98, and Windows NT 4.0

--

Jet 4.0 Service Pack 7 (SP7) for Windows Millennium Edition
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

File Name: Jet40SP7_WMe.exe
Download Size: 3559 KB
Date Published: 6/25/2003
Version: 4.0.7328
Supported OS: Windows ME

Inline....

--
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"ForestSpirit" wrote in message
...
-------------------------------------
Reinstalling Windows Me Over Itself
-------------------------------------
"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
It should never be necessary to reinstall ME over itself - please
remember
that first and foremost!!!

Wonderful. These newsgroups are teaching me so much, and so are you, Noel.

-------------------------------------------------------------------
ERROR: "Cannot load explorer.exe. You must reinstall Windows."
-------------------------------------------------------------------
The 'cannot find explorer.exe' error is a common one, and is often fixed
quickly and easily without reinstalling windows.

Great. Please tell me the fix so I can save it to a text file. Also tell
me
whether the fix is applicable to any other operating systems (95,98se,XP).

WHen/if the problem occurs again, post back and then we'll troubleshoot it.



-----------------------------
Uninstalling Outlook Express
-----------------------------
WRT Outlook Express - In my experience, using this process doesn't affect
OE, since it's not uninstalled by IERadicator, but again - back up first.

Previous posts taught me how to back up the various OE settings. What is
the
best way to uninstall Outlook Express? Since IEradicator will remove
Internet Explorer *completely*, should I also *completely* remove Outlook
Express? Since it is "version soup," I assume the *complete* uninstall
would
be required. The following web page describes three methods for
uninstalling
Outlook Express.

http://www.okinfoweb.com/moe/general/gen_036.htm

Under the circumstances, I think choice 3 is best. Do you agree?


I don't think it's liekly to be necessary - and it can always be done
afterwards if it is.



---------------------------
Internet Explorer Sites List
---------------------------
Is there any way to back up the long list of sites in the Trusted and
Restricted Zones in Internet Explorer? The sites are listed in Internet
Options in Control Panel and in the Windows Registry. While the list of
Trusted sites is relatively short, there are *thousands* of sites in my
Restricted Zone. At least three programs add entries to the Restricted
Zone
for Internet Explorer. All three programs are easy to uninstall and
reinstall should they become corrupted. I have disabled their integration
and protection options and removed their startup entries from MSCONFIG.
1. IE-SPYAD
2. SpywareBlaster 3.2
3. SpybotSD 1.4 b2

The sites and domains, regardless of whether they are Trusted or
Restricted,
are stored in two registry keys. If I just export these two keys, will
that
do it?

HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Software/Microsoft/Windows/Current Version/Internet
Settings/ZoneMap/Domains

HKEY_USERS/.DEFAULT/Software/Microsoft/Windows/Current Version/Internet
Settings/ZoneMap/Domains

VALUE DATA (Hexadecimal) for each site/domain.
2=Trusted Site
4=Restricted Site

The Windows hosts file has been backed up safely in more than one
location.

Exporting and importing the registry keys should work



----------------------
Preparing for Surgery
----------------------
Please read what's on the website - most people who've used it have found
that it works fine, and their system is back up and running in under an
hour
after starting the process. Those who've had problems didn't follow the
instructions properly, as we discovered in troubleshooting the problems
later.

Noel, I am very happy to know that many others who followed your
instructions were able to get IE/OE back up and running within an hour,
but
every situation is unique. IEradicator is a VERY powerful program that can
do a LOT of damage, and it is best to get all concerns addressed before
using it. This is the first time I've done this, and I want to get it
right
the first time. It'll be worth it once everything is fixed, no matter how
long that takes. Education and precautions now may reduce the
troubleshooting later. Thanks for understanding.

Noel Paton's "Uninstalling & Reinstalling IE in ME"
http://winnoel.users.btopenworld.com/ReInIE.htm

After re-reading the instructions on your site thoroughly, there are still
questions. There are many programs and Windows components that will
be......snip


Most of the programs concerned, providing you don't use them between the
uninstall and reinstall, won't even notice the difference - but that is why
I recommend backing up the data you need.


Plus, I have a life other than the computer. I'm going to watch some
movies
while I'm waiting!

Sounds like a plan to me!g

-------------------------------
NORTON ALTERNATIVES
-------------------------------

Thank you for telling me about SystemWorks. Honestly, I have been thinking
about alternatives for some time. There are free replacements for NORTON
ANTIVIRUS and NORTON PASSWORD MANAGER, but I know of none for most features
of NORTON UTILITIES, NORTON CLEANSWEEP, or NORTON GHOST. Listed below are
freeware and shareware programs I have evaluated that can do some of the
things Norton can do.

If there are free replacements for the shareware programs, let me know. Also
in the list below I created additional categories for other security
programs. Please feel free to add anything (especially freeware) to the
categories below. The most important are to find replacements for NORTON
UTILITIES and GHOST. I can't just install one or two programs in the
SystemWorks Suite. If I had the Ghost standalone version, that would be
better. Standalone versions do not require activation (unless they changed
that in 2005).

NORTON ANTIVIRUS
-EZAntiVirus (98se-XP) free-$29.95
http://www.my-etrust.com/
-Avast! AntiVirus 4.5 (95-XP) Home (free), Pro $39.95
Avast! AntiVirus 7.7 for DOS (free)
http://www.avast.com
-F-Prot AntiVirus for DOS (DOS,3.1,95,98)
*free for personal use*
http://www.f-prot.com/products/home_use/

NORTON CLEANSWEEP/SMARTSWEEP INTERNET SWEEP
-Need something that cleans the registry and can monitor installs when
loaded. Alternatives?
-SpybotSD 1.3 (95-XP) Free stable version
http://safer-networking.org
-SpybotSD 1.4 b2 (95-XP) Free beta version
http://forums.net-integration.net/in...howtopic=25574
-Ad-Aware SE build 1.05 (98-XP) Personal (Free), Plus $26.95, Pro $39.95
http://www.lavasoftusa.com
-X-Cleaner 4.0 Free (95-XP), Deluxe (95-XP) $39.95
http://www.xblock.com/download-freeware.shtml
-ZoneAlarm Free (98-XP), Pro $49.95
*software firewall*
http://www.zonelabs.com
-Advanced Uninstaller Pro (95-XP) $27
*registry optimizer/defragger, uninstaller and other system tools. Any
free alternatives?
http://www.innovative-sol.com

NORTON PASSWORD MANAGER
-MSI PasswordKeeper (95-XP) (free)
*used strictly offline, encrypts, exports to text file*
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/suppor...ist.php?kind=1
-Alternatives? (not interested in RoboForm)

NORTON GHOST
-Alternatives?

NORTON UTILITIES
-Cannot yet replace One Button Checkup, WinDoctor, Disk Doctor, Uninstall
Wizard, or Windows defragger/optimizer. Would like to have a registry
defragger/optimizer, page file defragger/optimizer and more. Alternatives?
-Advanced Uninstaller Pro (95-XP) $27. Free alternatives?
*uninstaller, registry defragger/optimizer*
http://www.innovative-sol.com
-jv16 Power Tools (95-XP) $29. Free alternatives?
http://www.macecraft.com
-HijackThis 1.99.0 (95-XP)
http://www.merijn.org/downloads
-Startup List 1.52.1 (95-XP)
http://www.merijn.org/downloads
-Driver Cleaner 3.3 (95-XP)
http://www.drivercleaner.net/
-My Drivers 3.11 (95-XP) $39
http://www.zhangduo.com/driverbackup.html
-Belarc Advisor 6.1f (95-03) free
http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html
-AIDA32 Enterprise 3.93 (95-XP) free
http://www.majorgeeks.com
-EndItAll2 (95-2k) free/paid
FREE: http://www.docsdownloads.com/Tier1/enditall.htm
SUBCRIPTION: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0%2C4149%2C697%2C00.asp
-LIST (DOS-XP) free, LIST Plus $18, LIST Enhanced $29+
*a must for every drive and startup disk*
http://www.buerg.com
-BHO Demon 2.02 (98-XP)
http://www.definitivesolutions.com/bhodemon.htm

-----------------------
WINFAX PRO 10.03
-----------------------
-Alternatives?

----------------
ANTITROJAN (what Norton cannot do)
----------------
-No free antitrojan with real-time protection has been found
-A2 Free 1.5 (95-XP)
*no real-time protection, manual scans only*
http://www.a-2.org/en/software/free/
-A2 Personal 1.5 (95-XP) $29.95
http://www.a-2.org/en/software/personal/
-BOClean 4.11 (95-XP) $45
http://www.nsclean.com/sales.html
-TDS-3/TDS-4 (95-XP) $45
http://tds.diamondcs.com.au/

-------------------
ANTISPYWARE
-------------------
-SpybotSD 1.3 (95-XP) Free stable version
http://safer-networking.org
-SpybotSD 1.4 b2 (95-XP) Free beta version
http://forums.net-integration.net/in...howtopic=25574
-Ad-Aware SE build 1.05 (98-XP) Personal (Free), Plus $26.95, Pro $39.95
http://www.lavasoftusa.com
-X-Cleaner 4.0 Free (95-XP), Deluxe (95-XP) $39.95
http://www.xblock.com/download-freeware.shtml
-SpywareBlaster 3.2 (95-XP) free
http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html
-SpywareGuard 2.2 (98-XP) free
http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareguard.html
-CWShredder 2.12 (98se-XP) free
http://www.intermute.com/spysubtract..._download.html
-CWS Smart Killer (free)
http://www.safer-networking.org/files/delcwssk.zip
-HijackThis 1.99.0 (95-XP) free
*ask a pro before removing anything*
http://www.merijn.org/downloads

--------------
ANTISPAM
--------------
-Spamhilator (95 & higher) free
http://www.spamihilator.com/
-Spam Inspector 4.0 (95-XP) $29.95
*no longer sold since Microsoft took over*
http://www.giantcompany.com/

---------------------
POPUP BLOCKER
---------------------
-Google Toolbar (95-XP) free
*rated the best popup blocking toolbar*
http://toolbar.google.com/
-AnalogX Pow! 1.58 (95-XP) free
http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/network.htm

----------------------
SCRIPT BLOCKER
----------------------
-AnalogX Script Defender 1.02 (95-XP) free
http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/system.htm

---------------------------------
IE/OE EXPLOIT DISABLERS
---------------------------------
-DHCP Fix 1.00 (95,98,Me) free
http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/system.htm
-BugOff 1.10 (98-XP) free
http://www.merijn.org/downloads

--------------------------
IE RESTRICTED SITES
--------------------------
-IE-SPYAD (95 & higher)
https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/ehowes/www/resource.htm
-SpybotSD 1.3 (95-XP) Free stable version
http://safer-networking.org
-SpybotSD 1.4 b2 (95-XP) Free beta version
http://forums.net-integration.net/in...howtopic=25574
-SpywareBlaster 3.2 (95-XP) free
http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html

---------------------------
FILE SEARCH UTILITY
---------------------------
-Need a better replacement for Windows Search that can search within folders
& compressed files (.cab,.zip,.rar.,.7z, etc.)


"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
I would recommend Uninstalling Norton simply because it has so many hooks
into the registry that its behaviour is unpredictable at best, and
critically insane at worst.
I would also recommend NOT reinstalling Norton after the operation - Ghost
is fine, and WinFax Pro is fine but al the other stuff is overblown,
overhyped, and has too many hooks into the system with resulting problems
that ensue if the slightest thing goes wrong. Free alternatives are
available for almost all the functions of NSW - and many behave a lot
better
than those in NSW.

--------------------------------------------
329414 MDAC 2.1, 2.5, and 2.6 Updates
--------------------------------------------
I figured out what the -25 means next to 329414 (MDAC 2.5). None of these
329414 updates should need to be installed since I have MDAC 2.8 now. They
pertain to earlier versions of MDAC. The MDAC utility checker verified that
MDAC 2.8 is currently installed. Maybe that's why Belarc has a blank next to
329414-25. This update is obsolete because of MDAC 2.8. Will I need to
reinstall MDAC 2.8 because of IEradicator?
DataAccess
( ) Q329414-25 on 1/9/2005

-----------------------------------
889293 IE6 SP1 Security Update
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/889293
889669 IE6 SP1 Security Update Rollup (includes
889293+888092+871248+hotfixes)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/889669
-----------------------------------
Since 889669 seems to be more inclusive, should I install it instead of
889293?

-----------------------
816093 JavaVM3810
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;816093
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;163637
-----------------------
I reinstalled this. Why doesn't it show up in Belarc? Javart.dll, Jview.exe,
Wjview.exe, MSjava.dll, msjdbc.dll are all version 3810. Is VM going to be
wiped out by IEradicator? If so, how do I get it back on here without
reinstalling Windows? "If you do not have the Microsoft VM installed, you
cannot install updates to the Microsoft VM. Windows Update does not offer
updates to the Microsoft VM if the Microsoft VM is not installed on your
computer."

------------------------------------------
319303 IE Sound Navigator Update
287564 Windows Movie Maker Update
------------------------------------------
-These are not available in the Windows Update Catalog or the Download
Center, at least I can't find them as separate downloads, only as Windows
Updates.
The only references to Windows Movie Maker I can find on the Microsoft site
are for Windows Movie Maker 2 for WinXP.

----------------------------
Resetting Windows Update
----------------------------
IMPORTANT: How do I reset Windows Update so that when it scans my computer
it will not see things downloaded previously that are no longer installed
(or are not installed right and need to be reinstalled)? How do I get it to
offer me those updates again? Deleting the Windows Update folder in Program
Files does not do it. (I tried that once before.) What other files, folders
or registry entries need to be changed to accomplish that?

------------------
NET Framework
------------------
AFAIK, there's only a need for one version (1.1 - and the patch for it) of
NF - it us an update to 1.0, and so contains all the functionality of the
earlier version. If you find that a program requires NF1.0 rather than
1.1,
then that is because that program uses undocumented functionality (i.e. a
bug) in NF1.0

Excellent, but you did not tell me whether NF needs to be uninstalled and
reinstalled. No check marks appeared next to any of the NET Framework
components, and I'm wondering if that's normal or not. Similarly, is there
supposed to be check mark next to IE6 SP1? How will NF be affected by the
removal of IE? Should I go ahead and uninstall both Net Frameworks and
reinstall only 1.1 after IE is back, or should I leave all Net Frameworks
alone?
(By the way, what does AFAIK mean?)

-------------------
829558 Jet40sp8
-------------------
Which version of Office are you installing? Office 2000 and XP already
install Jet 4SP8.

Office 2000 SR1a Premium (after slipstreaming, it will be SR3+hotfixes)

http://support.microsoft.com/?KBID=829558
contains a link to the update for ME.

Wonderful. Now why couldn't I find that?

----------------------
317244 MSXML 4.0
----------------------
I will uninstall this from Control Panel and reinstall it later.

----------------------------------------------
Windows Updates to Uninstall/Reinstall/Install
----------------------------------------------
"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
apart from the fact that there are a number of IE ( and other) patches
missing, that hotfix report looks fairly normal.

Which updates (patches) are missing?
(1) I may not have reinstalled them after reinstalling WinMe, or
(2) If I did reinstall them, they did not install properly, or
(3) There may be some other problem with Windows.
Some updates have been replaced by later updates, and not every update in
Windows Update and the Windows Update Catalog applies to me. Updates for
IE55SP2 will not be needed. Updates for MDAC (other than MDAC 2.8) will not
be needed. WebTV and Euro Tool updates will not be needed.

Windows Update Status Uninstall/Reinstall/Install
------------------ ------ -------------------------
IE6SP1 / OE6SP1..................unverified [REINSTALL]
273017 ME IDE HDD Cache.*verified
273991 ME Share Lvl Pwd....*verified
274113 ME WebTV..............not installed (not needed)
279328 IE55/55SP2..............not installed (not needed)
290700 ME System Restore...*verified
293818 ME Cert Fix.............not shown [REINSTALL]
287564 ME Movie Maker.....not shown [RE if offered]
317244 MSXML 4.0............unverified [UN/REINSTALL]
319303 IE Sound Update......not shown [RE if offered]
320920 WMP 7.1 MS02-032..not installed [?] (not needed?)
321884 NF10 SP2................not shown [?] (uninstall?)
323172 ME Cert Fix.............not shown [REINSTALL]
323255 HTML Help Fix.......not shown [REINSTALL]
326573 MDAC (see 823718)
329048 ME Zip Files Fix......not installed [REINSTALL]
329115 ME SU MS02-050..*verified
329414 MDAC 2.1-2.6........unverified (not needed, 2.8)
330994 IE55SP2 Sec Upd...not installed (not needed)
811630 HTML Help............not shown [REINSTALL]
817787 WMP 7.1 WMZ....not shown [REINSTALL]
812709 Help Update............not shown [REINSTALL]
813951 IE6SP1 Update.......not shown [REINSTALL]
814078 Jscript 5.5...............not installed (not needed)
814078 Jscript 5.6...............not shown [?] (reinstall?)
816093 JavaVM3810.........not shown [?] (reinstall?)
819639 WMP9 Library......not shown [REINSTALL]
819696 nonDX8/nonDX9....not shown (not needed, DX9c)
823353 OE55SP2 MS04-018..not installed (not needed)
823559 ME SU MS03-023..*verified
823718 MDAC 2.5-2.7........not installed (not needed, 2.8)
825119 ME H&S MS03-040..not shown [REINSTALL]
828026 WMP9 URL Script..*verified
829558 Jet40sp8..................not installed [INSTALL]
832353 WMP 828026 hotfix..unknown [?] (install?)
833989 IE6SP1 MS04-028...not shown [?] (install?)
834707 IE55SP2 MS04-038..not installed (not needed)
836528 MyDoom Cleaner.....not installed (only if infected)
837009 OE55SP2.................not installed (not needed)
837009 OE6SP1...................not installed [INSTALL]
837272 WMP9....................*verified
840315 ME Help MS04-023..not shown [REINSTALL]
867460 NF10 SP1................unverified [?] (uninstall?)
867461 NF10 SP3................unverified [?] (uninstall?)
870669 IE ADODB.stream....not shown [REINSTALL]
873374 GDI+Detection Tool...not shown [REINSTALL]
887797 OE6SP1...................unverified [REINSTALL]
889293 IE6SP1....................unverified [?] (install 889669?)
889669 IE6SP1 Upd Rollup..not installed [?] (install instead of 889293?)
890175 IE6SP1..................*verified [REINSTALL]
ME WU AutoUpdating.........not shown (installed)
NF11 Redistributable............unverified [?] (un/reinstall?)
NF11 SP1............................unverified [?] (un/reinstall?)
DX90a Managed DX...........not shown (not needed, DX9c)
DX90c Redistributable..........*verified
Euro Conversion Tool..........not installed (not needed)
ME Root Cert Update.........not shown [REINSTALL]
WMP9 Codec Installer........(installed)
WMP9 Player.....................*verified
MSN Messenger 6.2...........[REINSTALL]
NetMeeting 3.01SP2...........[REINSTALL]
Windows Installer 2.............(installed)
Microsoft Backup................[REINSTALL]
Windows Script 5.6.............(installed)

Please let me know what to do about each one that has a question mark. If I
have marked something as "not needed" that you feel should be INSTALLED,
please make corrections. I'm not 100% sure about all of these. If I have
forgotten something, please add it to the list.

Ghost you can use straight off the installation CD, AFAIK (Mike - can you
confirm???) without actually installing it.
The other tools can mostly likewise be used from the CD - although obviously
doing so means that you won't have the latest updates (not critical except
for NAV, since Symantec haven't supported Win ME properly since before the
release - and it was debatable even then)

Norton Uninstall I used to use when it was a separate program - and ditched
it when I realised what it was doing to my system. It has a nasty propensity
for removing current files (which may have been put there by patches) with
the files that were in place at the time of the original install of the
program - and not telling the |OS that it's done so. The resulting version
soup could end up causing exactly the type of problem you're seeing now.


My own preferred AV is AVG (www.grisoft.com) - I've found that it never
seems to conflict with system updates (I'm lazy, I don't like having to turn
off the AV to install an updateg), and has a much smaller footprint than
NAV (but then so does anything - including my size 13's!g) The ones you
mention are all worthy contenders, and it comes down to preference, and
style - your choice, IOW!

For Spyware, there's no such thing as 'the best' - I use routinely both
AdAware and Spybot, with the occasional other addition if required. Each
tool tends to be better in some areas than others, and have weaknesses
elsewhere - I would never think of using just the one program for this, as
the 'market' is moving too fast for one vendor to keep up.

Password managers I know nothing about, and probably wouldn't use if I did.

The Windows search engine is quite capable of searching within files and
compressed files - I use it almost every day for that. Speed is not what you
should be looking for, as the high-speed search engines probably rely on
indexing - which in turn relies on background working (taking processor and
Disk cycles away from what you're doing at the time). I automatically turn
off any indexing options on software I install, since most such software is
intended for those having thousands of similar files (the higher the number
the more useful indexing is).

HTH

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

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"ForestSpirit" wrote in message
...
-------------------------------
NORTON ALTERNATIVES
-------------------------------

Thank you for telling me about SystemWorks. Honestly, I have been thinking
about alternatives for some time. There are free replacements for NORTON
ANTIVIRUS and NORTON PASSWORD MANAGER, but I know of none for most
features
of NORTON UTILITIES, NORTON CLEANSWEEP, or NORTON GHOST. Listed below are
freeware and shareware programs I have evaluated that can do some of the
things Norton can do.

If there are free replacements for the shareware programs, let me know.
Also
in the list below I created additional categories for other security
programs. Please feel free to add anything (especially freeware) to the
categories below. The most important are to find replacements for NORTON
UTILITIES and GHOST. I can't just install one or two programs in the
SystemWorks Suite. If I had the Ghost standalone version, that would be
better. Standalone versions do not require activation (unless they changed
that in 2005).

NORTON ANTIVIRUS
-EZAntiVirus (98se-XP) free-$29.95
http://www.my-etrust.com/
-Avast! AntiVirus 4.5 (95-XP) Home (free), Pro $39.95
Avast! AntiVirus 7.7 for DOS (free)
http://www.avast.com
-F-Prot AntiVirus for DOS (DOS,3.1,95,98)
*free for personal use*
http://www.f-prot.com/products/home_use/

NORTON CLEANSWEEP/SMARTSWEEP INTERNET SWEEP
-Need something that cleans the registry and can monitor installs when
loaded. Alternatives?
-SpybotSD 1.3 (95-XP) Free stable version
http://safer-networking.org
-SpybotSD 1.4 b2 (95-XP) Free beta version
http://forums.net-integration.net/in...howtopic=25574
-Ad-Aware SE build 1.05 (98-XP) Personal (Free), Plus $26.95, Pro $39.95
http://www.lavasoftusa.com
-X-Cleaner 4.0 Free (95-XP), Deluxe (95-XP) $39.95
http://www.xblock.com/download-freeware.shtml
-ZoneAlarm Free (98-XP), Pro $49.95
*software firewall*
http://www.zonelabs.com
-Advanced Uninstaller Pro (95-XP) $27
*registry optimizer/defragger, uninstaller and other system tools. Any
free alternatives?
http://www.innovative-sol.com

NORTON PASSWORD MANAGER
-MSI PasswordKeeper (95-XP) (free)
*used strictly offline, encrypts, exports to text file*
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/suppor...ist.php?kind=1
-Alternatives? (not interested in RoboForm)

NORTON GHOST
-Alternatives?

NORTON UTILITIES
-Cannot yet replace One Button Checkup, WinDoctor, Disk Doctor, Uninstall
Wizard, or Windows defragger/optimizer. Would like to have a registry
defragger/optimizer, page file defragger/optimizer and more. Alternatives?
-Advanced Uninstaller Pro (95-XP) $27. Free alternatives?
*uninstaller, registry defragger/optimizer*
http://www.innovative-sol.com
-jv16 Power Tools (95-XP) $29. Free alternatives?
http://www.macecraft.com
-HijackThis 1.99.0 (95-XP)
http://www.merijn.org/downloads
-Startup List 1.52.1 (95-XP)
http://www.merijn.org/downloads
-Driver Cleaner 3.3 (95-XP)
http://www.drivercleaner.net/
-My Drivers 3.11 (95-XP) $39
http://www.zhangduo.com/driverbackup.html
-Belarc Advisor 6.1f (95-03) free
http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html
-AIDA32 Enterprise 3.93 (95-XP) free
http://www.majorgeeks.com
-EndItAll2 (95-2k) free/paid
FREE: http://www.docsdownloads.com/Tier1/enditall.htm
SUBCRIPTION: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0%2C4149%2C697%2C00.asp
-LIST (DOS-XP) free, LIST Plus $18, LIST Enhanced $29+
*a must for every drive and startup disk*
http://www.buerg.com
-BHO Demon 2.02 (98-XP)
http://www.definitivesolutions.com/bhodemon.htm

-----------------------
WINFAX PRO 10.03
-----------------------
-Alternatives?

----------------
ANTITROJAN (what Norton cannot do)
----------------
-No free antitrojan with real-time protection has been found
-A2 Free 1.5 (95-XP)
*no real-time protection, manual scans only*
http://www.a-2.org/en/software/free/
-A2 Personal 1.5 (95-XP) $29.95
http://www.a-2.org/en/software/personal/
-BOClean 4.11 (95-XP) $45
http://www.nsclean.com/sales.html
-TDS-3/TDS-4 (95-XP) $45
http://tds.diamondcs.com.au/

-------------------
ANTISPYWARE
-------------------
-SpybotSD 1.3 (95-XP) Free stable version
http://safer-networking.org
-SpybotSD 1.4 b2 (95-XP) Free beta version
http://forums.net-integration.net/in...howtopic=25574
-Ad-Aware SE build 1.05 (98-XP) Personal (Free), Plus $26.95, Pro $39.95
http://www.lavasoftusa.com
-X-Cleaner 4.0 Free (95-XP), Deluxe (95-XP) $39.95
http://www.xblock.com/download-freeware.shtml
-SpywareBlaster 3.2 (95-XP) free
http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html
-SpywareGuard 2.2 (98-XP) free
http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareguard.html
-CWShredder 2.12 (98se-XP) free
http://www.intermute.com/spysubtract..._download.html
-CWS Smart Killer (free)
http://www.safer-networking.org/files/delcwssk.zip
-HijackThis 1.99.0 (95-XP) free
*ask a pro before removing anything*
http://www.merijn.org/downloads

--------------
ANTISPAM
--------------
-Spamhilator (95 & higher) free
http://www.spamihilator.com/
-Spam Inspector 4.0 (95-XP) $29.95
*no longer sold since Microsoft took over*
http://www.giantcompany.com/

---------------------
POPUP BLOCKER
---------------------
-Google Toolbar (95-XP) free
*rated the best popup blocking toolbar*
http://toolbar.google.com/
-AnalogX Pow! 1.58 (95-XP) free
http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/network.htm

----------------------
SCRIPT BLOCKER
----------------------
-AnalogX Script Defender 1.02 (95-XP) free
http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/system.htm

---------------------------------
IE/OE EXPLOIT DISABLERS
---------------------------------
-DHCP Fix 1.00 (95,98,Me) free
http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/system.htm
-BugOff 1.10 (98-XP) free
http://www.merijn.org/downloads

--------------------------
IE RESTRICTED SITES
--------------------------
-IE-SPYAD (95 & higher)
https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/ehowes/www/resource.htm
-SpybotSD 1.3 (95-XP) Free stable version
http://safer-networking.org
-SpybotSD 1.4 b2 (95-XP) Free beta version
http://forums.net-integration.net/in...howtopic=25574
-SpywareBlaster 3.2 (95-XP) free
http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html

---------------------------
FILE SEARCH UTILITY
---------------------------
-Need a better replacement for Windows Search that can search within
folders
& compressed files (.cab,.zip,.rar.,.7z, etc.)


"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
I would recommend Uninstalling Norton simply because it has so many
hooks
into the registry that its behaviour is unpredictable at best, and
critically insane at worst.
I would also recommend NOT reinstalling Norton after the operation -
Ghost
is fine, and WinFax Pro is fine but al the other stuff is overblown,
overhyped, and has too many hooks into the system with resulting problems
that ensue if the slightest thing goes wrong. Free alternatives are
available for almost all the functions of NSW - and many behave a lot
better
than those in NSW.

I'm not sure about off the CD, I haven't got a recent copy to know, but it
can certainly be run from a floppy and as you say doesn't need to be
installed.
--
Mike


Noel Paton wrote:

Ghost you can use straight off the installation CD, AFAIK (Mike - can
you confirm???) without actually installing it.
The other tools can mostly likewise be used from the CD - although
obviously doing so means that you won't have the latest updates (not
critical except for NAV, since Symantec haven't supported Win ME
properly since before the release - and it was debatable even then)

Norton Uninstall I used to use when it was a separate program - and
ditched it when I realised what it was doing to my system. It has a
nasty propensity for removing current files (which may have been put
there by patches) with the files that were in place at the time of
the original install of the program - and not telling the |OS that
it's done so. The resulting version soup could end up causing exactly
the type of problem you're seeing now.

My own preferred AV is AVG (www.grisoft.com) - I've found that it
never seems to conflict with system updates (I'm lazy, I don't like
having to turn off the AV to install an updateg), and has a much
smaller footprint than NAV (but then so does anything - including my
size 13's!g) The ones you mention are all worthy contenders, and it
comes down to preference, and style - your choice, IOW!

For Spyware, there's no such thing as 'the best' - I use routinely
both AdAware and Spybot, with the occasional other addition if
required. Each tool tends to be better in some areas than others, and
have weaknesses elsewhere - I would never think of using just the one
program for this, as the 'market' is moving too fast for one vendor
to keep up.
Password managers I know nothing about, and probably wouldn't use if
I did.
The Windows search engine is quite capable of searching within files
and compressed files - I use it almost every day for that. Speed is
not what you should be looking for, as the high-speed search engines
probably rely on indexing - which in turn relies on background
working (taking processor and Disk cycles away from what you're doing
at the time). I automatically turn off any indexing options on
software I install, since most such software is intended for those
having thousands of similar files (the higher the number the more
useful indexing is).

Yes, you may need to reinstall MDAC 2.8 after the reinstall -
Why doesn't Belarc flog the JVM 3810? - because it's not looking for it,
since MS had to stop supporting the JVM at that point, and you should be
using Sun Java now.

You're opening a whole can of worms with the Windows Update problems g -
and it's one that I can't answer easily.
In theory, using IERadicator to get rid of IE then reinstalling IE6SP1, you
should only then require the latest Rollup update, and perhaps one or two
others - but until you do so, and see what Belarc has to say, then it's
almost impossible to predict which ones.

DO NOT worry about the update problem until we've sorted out the version
soup problem!! - a lot may resolve themselves at that time!!


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"ForestSpirit" wrote in message
...
--------------------------------------------
329414 MDAC 2.1, 2.5, and 2.6 Updates
--------------------------------------------
I figured out what the -25 means next to 329414 (MDAC 2.5). None of these
329414 updates should need to be installed since I have MDAC 2.8 now. They
pertain to earlier versions of MDAC. The MDAC utility checker verified
that
MDAC 2.8 is currently installed. Maybe that's why Belarc has a blank next
to
329414-25. This update is obsolete because of MDAC 2.8. Will I need to
reinstall MDAC 2.8 because of IEradicator?
DataAccess
( ) Q329414-25 on 1/9/2005

-----------------------------------
889293 IE6 SP1 Security Update
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/889293
889669 IE6 SP1 Security Update Rollup (includes
889293+888092+871248+hotfixes)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/889669
-----------------------------------
Since 889669 seems to be more inclusive, should I install it instead of
889293?

-----------------------
816093 JavaVM3810
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;816093
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;163637
-----------------------
I reinstalled this. Why doesn't it show up in Belarc? Javart.dll,
Jview.exe,
Wjview.exe, MSjava.dll, msjdbc.dll are all version 3810. Is VM going to be
wiped out by IEradicator? If so, how do I get it back on here without
reinstalling Windows? "If you do not have the Microsoft VM installed, you
cannot install updates to the Microsoft VM. Windows Update does not offer
updates to the Microsoft VM if the Microsoft VM is not installed on your
computer."

------------------------------------------
319303 IE Sound Navigator Update
287564 Windows Movie Maker Update
------------------------------------------
-These are not available in the Windows Update Catalog or the Download
Center, at least I can't find them as separate downloads, only as Windows
Updates.
The only references to Windows Movie Maker I can find on the Microsoft
site
are for Windows Movie Maker 2 for WinXP.

----------------------------
Resetting Windows Update
----------------------------
IMPORTANT: How do I reset Windows Update so that when it scans my computer
it will not see things downloaded previously that are no longer installed
(or are not installed right and need to be reinstalled)? How do I get it
to
offer me those updates again? Deleting the Windows Update folder in
Program
Files does not do it. (I tried that once before.) What other files,
folders
or registry entries need to be changed to accomplish that?

------------------
NET Framework
------------------
AFAIK, there's only a need for one version (1.1 - and the patch for it)
of
NF - it us an update to 1.0, and so contains all the functionality of the
earlier version. If you find that a program requires NF1.0 rather than
1.1,
then that is because that program uses undocumented functionality (i.e. a
bug) in NF1.0

Excellent, but you did not tell me whether NF needs to be uninstalled and
reinstalled. No check marks appeared next to any of the NET Framework
components, and I'm wondering if that's normal or not. Similarly, is there
supposed to be check mark next to IE6 SP1? How will NF be affected by the
removal of IE? Should I go ahead and uninstall both Net Frameworks and
reinstall only 1.1 after IE is back, or should I leave all Net Frameworks
alone?
(By the way, what does AFAIK mean?)

-------------------
829558 Jet40sp8
-------------------
Which version of Office are you installing? Office 2000 and XP already
install Jet 4SP8.

Office 2000 SR1a Premium (after slipstreaming, it will be SR3+hotfixes)

http://support.microsoft.com/?KBID=829558
contains a link to the update for ME.

Wonderful. Now why couldn't I find that?

----------------------
317244 MSXML 4.0
----------------------
I will uninstall this from Control Panel and reinstall it later.

----------------------------------------------
Windows Updates to Uninstall/Reinstall/Install
----------------------------------------------
"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
apart from the fact that there are a number of IE ( and other) patches
missing, that hotfix report looks fairly normal.

Which updates (patches) are missing?
(1) I may not have reinstalled them after reinstalling WinMe, or
(2) If I did reinstall them, they did not install properly, or
(3) There may be some other problem with Windows.
Some updates have been replaced by later updates, and not every update in
Windows Update and the Windows Update Catalog applies to me. Updates for
IE55SP2 will not be needed. Updates for MDAC (other than MDAC 2.8) will
not
be needed. WebTV and Euro Tool updates will not be needed.

Windows Update Status Uninstall/Reinstall/Install
------------------ ------ -------------------------
IE6SP1 / OE6SP1..................unverified [REINSTALL]
273017 ME IDE HDD Cache.*verified
273991 ME Share Lvl Pwd....*verified
274113 ME WebTV..............not installed (not needed)
279328 IE55/55SP2..............not installed (not needed)
290700 ME System Restore...*verified
293818 ME Cert Fix.............not shown [REINSTALL]
287564 ME Movie Maker.....not shown [RE if offered]
317244 MSXML 4.0............unverified [UN/REINSTALL]
319303 IE Sound Update......not shown [RE if offered]
320920 WMP 7.1 MS02-032..not installed [?] (not needed?)
321884 NF10 SP2................not shown [?] (uninstall?)
323172 ME Cert Fix.............not shown [REINSTALL]
323255 HTML Help Fix.......not shown [REINSTALL]
326573 MDAC (see 823718)
329048 ME Zip Files Fix......not installed [REINSTALL]
329115 ME SU MS02-050..*verified
329414 MDAC 2.1-2.6........unverified (not needed, 2.8)
330994 IE55SP2 Sec Upd...not installed (not needed)
811630 HTML Help............not shown [REINSTALL]
817787 WMP 7.1 WMZ....not shown [REINSTALL]
812709 Help Update............not shown [REINSTALL]
813951 IE6SP1 Update.......not shown [REINSTALL]
814078 Jscript 5.5...............not installed (not needed)
814078 Jscript 5.6...............not shown [?] (reinstall?)
816093 JavaVM3810.........not shown [?] (reinstall?)
819639 WMP9 Library......not shown [REINSTALL]
819696 nonDX8/nonDX9....not shown (not needed, DX9c)
823353 OE55SP2 MS04-018..not installed (not needed)
823559 ME SU MS03-023..*verified
823718 MDAC 2.5-2.7........not installed (not needed, 2.8)
825119 ME H&S MS03-040..not shown [REINSTALL]
828026 WMP9 URL Script..*verified
829558 Jet40sp8..................not installed [INSTALL]
832353 WMP 828026 hotfix..unknown [?] (install?)
833989 IE6SP1 MS04-028...not shown [?] (install?)
834707 IE55SP2 MS04-038..not installed (not needed)
836528 MyDoom Cleaner.....not installed (only if infected)
837009 OE55SP2.................not installed (not needed)
837009 OE6SP1...................not installed [INSTALL]
837272 WMP9....................*verified
840315 ME Help MS04-023..not shown [REINSTALL]
867460 NF10 SP1................unverified [?] (uninstall?)
867461 NF10 SP3................unverified [?] (uninstall?)
870669 IE ADODB.stream....not shown [REINSTALL]
873374 GDI+Detection Tool...not shown [REINSTALL]
887797 OE6SP1...................unverified [REINSTALL]
889293 IE6SP1....................unverified [?] (install 889669?)
889669 IE6SP1 Upd Rollup..not installed [?] (install instead of 889293?)
890175 IE6SP1..................*verified [REINSTALL]
ME WU AutoUpdating.........not shown (installed)
NF11 Redistributable............unverified [?] (un/reinstall?)
NF11 SP1............................unverified [?] (un/reinstall?)
DX90a Managed DX...........not shown (not needed, DX9c)
DX90c Redistributable..........*verified
Euro Conversion Tool..........not installed (not needed)
ME Root Cert Update.........not shown [REINSTALL]
WMP9 Codec Installer........(installed)
WMP9 Player.....................*verified
MSN Messenger 6.2...........[REINSTALL]
NetMeeting 3.01SP2...........[REINSTALL]
Windows Installer 2.............(installed)
Microsoft Backup................[REINSTALL]
Windows Script 5.6.............(installed)

Please let me know what to do about each one that has a question mark. If
I
have marked something as "not needed" that you feel should be INSTALLED,
please make corrections. I'm not 100% sure about all of these. If I have
forgotten something, please add it to the list.

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Ghost you can use straight off the installation CD, AFAIK (Mike - can you
confirm???) without actually installing it.

What does AFAIK mean?


My own preferred AV is AVG (www.grisoft.com). The ones you
mention are all worthy contenders, and it comes down to preference, and
style - your choice, IOW!

What does IOW mean? I think Avast! or EZAntiVirus might be better for me.

Do you know of any freeware that can replace One Button Checkup,
WinDoctor, Disk Doctor, Uninstall Wizard and the defrag options? If I'm not
going to reinstall Norton, I'd like to find some replacements for its
various feature. I still have nothing to replace those features. I'd really
like the registry defragger/optimizer like Advanced Unisntaller Pro has, but
it is shareware. Any free alternatives?

NORTON UTILITIES
-Cannot yet replace One Button Checkup, WinDoctor, Disk Doctor,
Uninstall
Wizard, or Windows defragger/optimizer. Would like to have a registry
defragger/optimizer, page file defragger/optimizer and more.
Alternatives?
-Advanced Uninstaller Pro (95-XP) $27. Free alternatives?
*uninstaller, registry defragger/optimizer*
http://www.innovative-sol.com
-jv16 Power Tools (95-XP) $29. Free alternatives?
http://www.macecraft.com
-HijackThis 1.99.0 (95-XP)
http://www.merijn.org/downloads
-Startup List 1.52.1 (95-XP)
http://www.merijn.org/downloads
-Driver Cleaner 3.3 (95-XP)
http://www.drivercleaner.net/
-My Drivers 3.11 (95-XP) $39
http://www.zhangduo.com/driverbackup.html
-Belarc Advisor 6.1f (95-03) free
http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html
-AIDA32 Enterprise 3.93 (95-XP) free
http://www.majorgeeks.com
-EndItAll2 (95-2k) free/paid
FREE: http://www.docsdownloads.com/Tier1/enditall.htm
SUBCRIPTION: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0%2C4149%2C697%2C00.asp
-LIST (DOS-XP) free, LIST Plus $18, LIST Enhanced $29+
*a must for every drive and startup disk*
http://www.buerg.com
-BHO Demon 2.02 (98-XP)
http://www.definitivesolutions.com/bhodemon.htm

As Far As I Know.....

"ForestSpirit" wrote in message
...

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Ghost you can use straight off the installation CD, AFAIK (Mike - can
you
confirm???) without actually installing it.

What does AFAIK mean?


My own preferred AV is AVG (www.grisoft.com). The ones you
mention are all worthy contenders, and it comes down to preference, and
style - your choice, IOW!

What does IOW mean? I think Avast! or EZAntiVirus might be better for me.

Do you know of any freeware that can replace One Button Checkup,
WinDoctor, Disk Doctor, Uninstall Wizard and the defrag options? If I'm
not
going to reinstall Norton, I'd like to find some replacements for its
various feature. I still have nothing to replace those features. I'd
really
like the registry defragger/optimizer like Advanced Unisntaller Pro has,
but
it is shareware. Any free alternatives?

NORTON UTILITIES
-Cannot yet replace One Button Checkup, WinDoctor, Disk Doctor,
Uninstall
Wizard, or Windows defragger/optimizer. Would like to have a registry
defragger/optimizer, page file defragger/optimizer and more.
Alternatives?
-Advanced Uninstaller Pro (95-XP) $27. Free alternatives?
*uninstaller, registry defragger/optimizer*
http://www.innovative-sol.com
-jv16 Power Tools (95-XP) $29. Free alternatives?
http://www.macecraft.com
-HijackThis 1.99.0 (95-XP)
http://www.merijn.org/downloads
-Startup List 1.52.1 (95-XP)
http://www.merijn.org/downloads
-Driver Cleaner 3.3 (95-XP)
http://www.drivercleaner.net/
-My Drivers 3.11 (95-XP) $39
http://www.zhangduo.com/driverbackup.html
-Belarc Advisor 6.1f (95-03) free
http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html
-AIDA32 Enterprise 3.93 (95-XP) free
http://www.majorgeeks.com
-EndItAll2 (95-2k) free/paid
FREE: http://www.docsdownloads.com/Tier1/enditall.htm
SUBCRIPTION: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0%2C4149%2C697%2C00.asp
-LIST (DOS-XP) free, LIST Plus $18, LIST Enhanced $29+
*a must for every drive and startup disk*
http://www.buerg.com
-BHO Demon 2.02 (98-XP)
http://www.definitivesolutions.com/bhodemon.htm