What's wrong with Microsoft

I am adding the 98 general newsgroup for their feedback as well.

The question of what is wrong with Microsoft is simple but I welcome
corrections if I am wrong. smile Microsoft is a big company with not
enough competition and so Microsoft does things their way. If and when
Microsoft has enough competition from maybe Mozilla Firefox, Apple, Linux,
Unix, etc. then Microsoft *may* get off their high-horse and stop being lazy
and realize that they are not number 1 anymore and how ask the question of
how does Microsoft become number 1 again. I think many companies would like
to have monopolies in different areas but in the States not very many
companies have that luxury which I think is a good thing. Microsoft is
awesome at least to me on giving me support for my dual-boot 98SE/XP PRO.
system and I in turn write ideas that Microsoft should or may want to
incorporate into their products in the future. (In this case I stick mainly
with operating systems) Also, I beta test for Microsoft to help them out and
provide my feedback to them. They have been very helpful to me but were an
extremely tough company to crack. They finally wrote me back after much
persistence because they realized that I would not go away and that I could
help them as a company. Everyone have a great day.

Godspeed!

"Lee Chapelle" wrote in message
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:
: "Leythos" wrote in message
: news : On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 00:30:11 -0800, Lee Chapelle wrote:
:
:
: "Leythos" wrote
: On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 16:58:01 -0800, Lee Chapelle wrote:
:
: The fact remains, that the prime directive of the Windows division is
: to
: reach the point where the average person can run Windows "out of the
: box"
: and have the same satisifying and trouble-free experience with it that
: the
: techno-geek does. This comes down from Bill Gates and imbues
everything
: the
: leviathan does.
:
: I welcome the day when some OS vendor does that and succeeds at it.
:
: Every time they get closer to that goal, there are more hackers and
: spammers
: and phishers and virus-spreaders and all forms of scumbags there to ruin
: the
: party.
:
: Yea, since neither Linux or Windows or even OS/X is secure out of the
box,
: it would be nice if MS changed it's default install to one where all
: services had to be selected in order to enable networking. It would
: actually be nice if the install/setup process asked you if you were
: running Home Computer Directly Connected to Internet, Home Computer
behind
: a firewall with other computers, Business Computer behind a firewall
: without a domain, business computer behind a firewall in a domain,
: business computer directly connected to Internet.... and then setup the
: services and security for the user - funny thing is that MS would not
have
: to change the OS, just the install process, but I bet they won't do it
any
: time soon.
:
: That's not that far removed from what actually happens. The ICW asks those
: very questions, and the SP2 Security Centre deals with the firewall and AV.
:
:

I am requesting that you *not* add Win98.Gen_Discussion NG to this
conversation. We have enough trolls of our own. Take this stupid
discussion back where it belongs.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Dan" wrote in message
...
I am adding the 98 general newsgroup for their feedback as well.

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
I am requesting that you *not* add Win98.Gen_Discussion NG to this
conversation. We have enough trolls of our own. Take this stupid
discussion back where it belongs.


LOL! Then you should have set the Reply-To!

--
Peace!
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"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"

All right. My apologies, Gary. Please forgive me. Have a nice day!

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
: I am requesting that you *not* add Win98.Gen_Discussion NG to this
: conversation. We have enough trolls of our own. Take this stupid
: discussion back where it belongs.
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS MVP Shell/User
: http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
: http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
:
: "Dan" wrote in message
: ...
: I am adding the 98 general newsgroup for their feedback as well.
:

That was deliberate. Note that I make no mention of, nor did I include
any part of, the original discussion. I deliberately left the door open
for direct replies to my specific issue, since I do not read XP Groups.

The Windows XP General Discussion group is Troll City, as has always
been the case for the general discussion group dealing with the current
MS desktop OS. Don't quite understand the motive behind said trolls--I
mean, if you don't like MS, why not just go elsewhere?

Win98 is dead and headed for the cemetery, and my current mission is to
help the lingering grievers in letting go. Kindly let us get on with our
dirges in peace. Have a little respect.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"kurttrail" wrote in message
...
Gary S. Terhune wrote:
I am requesting that you *not* add Win98.Gen_Discussion NG to this
conversation. We have enough trolls of our own. Take this stupid
discussion back where it belongs.


LOL! Then you should have set the Reply-To!

--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com/mscommunity
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"

Hi Dan,,
welcome back/home.
how was life without the comp'?

regards Jane

Great, my eyes stopped burning from too much computer use and my involuntary
left eye twitch went away. I needed that vacation, I was too stressed and
now I am ready for another one. LOL!!

"jane" wrote in message
...
: Hi Dan,,
: welcome back/home.
: how was life without the comp'?
:
: regards Jane
:
:

On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:27:54 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune"
wrote:

Win98 is dead and headed for the cemetery,

Don't tell me windows 98 is dead. I using it right now. I plan to
keep using it. I use it more than I do windows xp. Which I may
soon get rid of xp-getting tired of Constantly installing updates.
The reason most older software work better with 98se than with xp.



Greg R

The reason you're installing more updates is two-fold:

1. You aren't installing many updates for 9x systems at all these days,
because Microsoft isn't issuing any--even a serious handful that they
should be issuing, IMNSHO.

2. WinXP is a much more complicated system, with much larger set of
functionalities, and exists in a world where hacking for profit is a
much larger, almost mainstream enterprise, one that I suspect is now a
primary mainstay of organized crime. Because of XPs position as the
leading Desktop OS, it gets attacked most often. Admittedly, another
part of this equation is that the underlying vulnerability in most cases
is "buffer overflow", a situation that cannot be fixed except in
piecemeal fashion until the entire core structure of Windows is changed.
Whether MS manages to solve that problem is the issue upon which
Microsoft's continued dominance depends. Until then, however, piecemeal
is the best that can be done. But *none* of that means that Win9x is any
more secure than XP. Just the opposite, in fact, when so many
vulnerabilities that have been patched in XP and 2k go unpatched in the
older

Win98, 98SE and ME *are* dead, at least in so far as being a modern
convenience. Sure, you can lock your 9x system away from the internet
and run obsolete programs--same way MS-DOS and Win95 are still used. But
that's *all* you'll be able to decently do with it by the time this year
has closed.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Greg R" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:27:54 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune"
wrote:

Win98 is dead and headed for the cemetery,

Don't tell me windows 98 is dead. I using it right now. I plan to
keep using it. I use it more than I do windows xp. Which I may
soon get rid of xp-getting tired of Constantly installing updates.
The reason most older software work better with 98se than with xp.



Greg R

That's very reassuringly American.
feed them information, with a good dose of fear.
Michael Moore, how right you are.


| Win98, 98SE and ME *are* dead, at least in so far as being a modern
| convenience. Sure, you can lock your 9x system away from the internet
| and run obsolete programs--same way MS-DOS and Win95 are still used. But
| that's *all* you'll be able to decently do with it by the time this year
| has closed.