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Old May 23rd 06, 08:57 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Hi,

I previously posted about adding a video card to a Compaq Presario 972 CDS
Pentium 75MHz pc.
It has Cirrus Logic 5434 1MB RAM video.

I purchased an VGA ATI Rage XPERT 8MB video card to improve the refresh
rate.

When the ATI arrived, I removed the cover from the pc and realized the CL
5434 was an onboard video adapter and there were two PCI slots already
populated. One with an Ethernet card and the other with a card having two
USB ports.

There wasn't a way into the BIOS to disable the onboard video (F10, didn't
work). After removing Cirrus Logic from 'Device Manager', it was again
recognized and reloaded upon bootup. So, I downloaded a Compaq diagnostic
application that provided a basic BIOS in MSDOS.

The Compaq app finally appeared to recognize the new ATI card. I disabled
the onboard Cirrus Logic and enabled the ATI.

That is when I messed things up.

When a message appeared that the ATI had the same address as another device,
did I want to use it, I anxiously went ahead an hit 'YES'.

No video. Nothing would make the video come back (removed the ATI). I
ruined the pc my brother gave my mom. I told him I would make it right and
took it to a computer shop, yesterday. The Tech, said just take out the
CMOS battery for a few hours and place it back and the BIOS will revert to
its default settings. Wonderful, I thought. However, I didn't trust myself
to do this and asked him would he do that and configure the new video card.

I just got a call from the Tech, and he said the pc is too old and he isn't
able to fix it. From what I understand, he doesn't know if it is the power
supply or the RAM or something. I'm guessing, he isn't able to get any
video, so there is no way to remedy the situation.

The pc was working until I set up a conflict in a 'memory address'.
I need to make things right (Which means trying to replace the computer)
even if resources are low right now.

Any help, suggestions, from the folks here, are gratefully received.
Thanks.

Cosmo


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Old May 23rd 06, 11:33 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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"cosmo" wrote in message
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Hi,

I previously posted about adding a video card to a Compaq Presario 972 CDS
Pentium 75MHz pc.
It has Cirrus Logic 5434 1MB RAM video.

I purchased an VGA ATI Rage XPERT 8MB video card to improve the refresh
rate.



snip

check to see if there is a bios reset jumper...
it's usually next to the battery.

otherwise...just pull the battery out and let the machine sit for several
hours
(if you really want to be sure, wait over night)

then try again


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Old May 24th 06, 02:40 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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When the machine is back in your possession make sure the ATI card is not installed.
Boot to DOS using a 98 DOS boot disk. If you do not have one you can create one on another 98 machine or get one from he
http://www.bootdisk.com/

Please read Read1st in the right pane for instructions on how to create the boot disk from the downloaded file.

At the DOS prompt type: scanreg /restore and press Enter. *Note the space after scanreg.
Select a date if available prior to the problem date.
Follow the prompts until finished and renboot.

--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375




"cosmo" wrote in message ...
Hi,

I previously posted about adding a video card to a Compaq Presario 972 CDS
Pentium 75MHz pc.
It has Cirrus Logic 5434 1MB RAM video.

I purchased an VGA ATI Rage XPERT 8MB video card to improve the refresh
rate.

When the ATI arrived, I removed the cover from the pc and realized the CL
5434 was an onboard video adapter and there were two PCI slots already
populated. One with an Ethernet card and the other with a card having two
USB ports.

There wasn't a way into the BIOS to disable the onboard video (F10, didn't
work). After removing Cirrus Logic from 'Device Manager', it was again
recognized and reloaded upon bootup. So, I downloaded a Compaq diagnostic
application that provided a basic BIOS in MSDOS.

The Compaq app finally appeared to recognize the new ATI card. I disabled
the onboard Cirrus Logic and enabled the ATI.

That is when I messed things up.

When a message appeared that the ATI had the same address as another device,
did I want to use it, I anxiously went ahead an hit 'YES'.

No video. Nothing would make the video come back (removed the ATI). I
ruined the pc my brother gave my mom. I told him I would make it right and
took it to a computer shop, yesterday. The Tech, said just take out the
CMOS battery for a few hours and place it back and the BIOS will revert to
its default settings. Wonderful, I thought. However, I didn't trust myself
to do this and asked him would he do that and configure the new video card.

I just got a call from the Tech, and he said the pc is too old and he isn't
able to fix it. From what I understand, he doesn't know if it is the power
supply or the RAM or something. I'm guessing, he isn't able to get any
video, so there is no way to remedy the situation.

The pc was working until I set up a conflict in a 'memory address'.
I need to make things right (Which means trying to replace the computer)
even if resources are low right now.

Any help, suggestions, from the folks here, are gratefully received.
Thanks.

Cosmo


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Old May 24th 06, 06:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Default old pc - no video - need help

On Tue, 23 May 2006 17:33:07 -0500, "philo" wrote:

snip

check to see if there is a bios reset jumper...
it's usually next to the battery.

otherwise...just pull the battery out and let the machine sit for several
hours
(if you really want to be sure, wait over night)

then try again

Hi philo,

I'll try the above. Thanks.

cosmo




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Old May 24th 06, 06:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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On Tue, 23 May 2006 20:40:18 -0500, "Brian A." gonefish'n@afarawaylake
wrote:

When the machine is back in your possession make sure the ATI card is not

installed.
Boot to DOS using a 98 DOS boot disk. If you do not have one you can

create one on another 98 machine or get one from he
http://www.bootdisk.com/

Please read Read1st in the right pane for instructions on how to create

the boot disk from the downloaded file.

At the DOS prompt type: scanreg /restore and press Enter. *Note the

space after scanreg.
Select a date if available prior to the problem date.
Follow the prompts until finished and renboot.


Brian A,

I hope to post an update with positive results.

Thanks, very much.

cosmo



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Old May 26th 06, 12:30 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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On Wed, 24 May 2006 13:35:35 -0400, "cosmo" wrote:

On Tue, 23 May 2006 20:40:18 -0500, "Brian A." gonefish'n@afarawaylake
wrote:

When the machine is back in your possession make sure the ATI card is not

installed.
Boot to DOS using a 98 DOS boot disk. If you do not have one you can

create one on another 98 machine or get one from he
http://www.bootdisk.com/

Please read Read1st in the right pane for instructions on how to create

the boot disk from the downloaded file.

At the DOS prompt type: scanreg /restore and press Enter. *Note the

space after scanreg.
Select a date if available prior to the problem date.
Follow the prompts until finished and renboot.


Brian A,

I hope to post an update with positive results.

Thanks, very much.


Hi,

I did get positive results. After removal and replacement of a nearby
jumper connection (CMOS battery was soldered in place) the CMOS was cleared.
I was able to do scanreg /restore.

The onboard video is now disabled and the ATI XPERT 98 PCI card boots
Windows98. However, always with either an IRQ or a 'memory range' conflict.
Every bootup, the 'install new hardware wizard' starts and installs a
Standard Display Adapter. Alot of time and effort finding a device driver
that would install, getting this far. But, the 'memory range' conflict
keeps the display card from working. 16 colors is all that is available.

Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

Best,

cosmo




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Old May 27th 06, 02:41 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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What devices is the cards IRQ/s and or Mem Range/s conflicting with?
What IRQ is the card attempting to use?

--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375




"cosmo" wrote in message ...
On Wed, 24 May 2006 13:35:35 -0400, "cosmo" wrote:

On Tue, 23 May 2006 20:40:18 -0500, "Brian A." gonefish'n@afarawaylake
wrote:

When the machine is back in your possession make sure the ATI card is not

installed.
Boot to DOS using a 98 DOS boot disk. If you do not have one you can

create one on another 98 machine or get one from he
http://www.bootdisk.com/

Please read Read1st in the right pane for instructions on how to create

the boot disk from the downloaded file.

At the DOS prompt type: scanreg /restore and press Enter. *Note the

space after scanreg.
Select a date if available prior to the problem date.
Follow the prompts until finished and renboot.


Brian A,

I hope to post an update with positive results.

Thanks, very much.


Hi,

I did get positive results. After removal and replacement of a nearby
jumper connection (CMOS battery was soldered in place) the CMOS was cleared.
I was able to do scanreg /restore.

The onboard video is now disabled and the ATI XPERT 98 PCI card boots
Windows98. However, always with either an IRQ or a 'memory range' conflict.
Every bootup, the 'install new hardware wizard' starts and installs a
Standard Display Adapter. Alot of time and effort finding a device driver
that would install, getting this far. But, the 'memory range' conflict
keeps the display card from working. 16 colors is all that is available.

Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

Best,

cosmo




 




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