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I believe the term was isolationim, and please don't blame the average US
citizen for that...It was started vy a bunch of folks of a particular
political party and had little to do with how most of us think, which is
unfortunately narrow minded and egocentric.


I think you're being a bit hard on yourself there!

But seriously, I think Figgs is probably referring to the famous condition
of average US citizenship whereby they are more-or-less deprived of news of
the rest of the world - except when US interests are involved - and don't
appear to object to it. I have never heard this disputed, nor that the
average American does *not* watch a lot of tv (thereby giving tacit
approval).

There are undoubtedly a lot of what one might call 'World Citizens' in the
US, but there are also undoubtedly a lot who don't even begin to understand
that, eg the Arab world doesn't really want McDonalds, Coca Cola and
Hollywood blockbuster tributes to the art of murder and explosion flooding
their markets by stealth (cultural imperialism). Could have done with a lot
less of it here - but US companies, like tobacco peddlars targetting
children, get 'em while they're young!

It may not be how most of you think, but being too apathetic to vote the
one's who do, out, is not too impressive. I mean, if not by direct majority
mandate then can't you guys do something by objecting to electoral
corruption, perhaps, say with something of the fervour of the sixties? Are
the citizens of the most powerful nation on earth really so helpless now?

Shane

Yes, Shane.....I was referring to the average American's myopic view of
the rest of the world. We see it more up here in Canada than anywhere
else, I think. We simply do not exist on CNN for example. There is
just a huge barren land mass above the US border. No weather, no
politics, no nothing. It does get infuriating at times.

OTOH, I guess we can't blame Joe Average Merkin when their President
won't allow the media to tell them the truth about things like Fort
Dover and bodybags and so on. We knew.....but they didn't.....at that
time. But I now think that they are catching on as to how badly they
were misled by Bush and Cheney, et al.

We have one advantage they don't have.....we can kick out our Prime
Minister if he ticks us off. They can't get rid of a sitting President
no way, no how. Pity.....as the old tea commercials used to say.

But I did promise not to get political.....lol.

Heather
"Shane" wrote in message
...
I believe the term was isolationim, and please don't blame the
average US
citizen for that...It was started vy a bunch of folks of a particular
political party and had little to do with how most of us think, which
is
unfortunately narrow minded and egocentric.


I think you're being a bit hard on yourself there!

But seriously, I think Figgs is probably referring to the famous
condition of average US citizenship whereby they are more-or-less
deprived of news of the rest of the world - except when US interests
are involved - and don't appear to object to it. I have never heard
this disputed, nor that the average American does *not* watch a lot of
tv (thereby giving tacit approval).

There are undoubtedly a lot of what one might call 'World Citizens' in
the US, but there are also undoubtedly a lot who don't even begin to
understand that, eg the Arab world doesn't really want McDonalds, Coca
Cola and Hollywood blockbuster tributes to the art of murder and
explosion flooding their markets by stealth (cultural imperialism).
Could have done with a lot less of it here - but US companies, like
tobacco peddlars targetting children, get 'em while they're young!

It may not be how most of you think, but being too apathetic to vote
the one's who do, out, is not too impressive. I mean, if not by direct
majority mandate then can't you guys do something by objecting to
electoral corruption, perhaps, say with something of the fervour of
the sixties? Are the citizens of the most powerful nation on earth
really so helpless now?

Shane

"Shane" wrote in
:

I believe the term was isolationim, and please don't blame the
average US citizen for that...It was started vy a bunch of folks of a
particular political party and had little to do with how most of us
think, which is unfortunately narrow minded and egocentric.


I think you're being a bit hard on yourself there!

But seriously, I think Figgs is probably referring to the famous
condition of average US citizenship whereby they are more-or-less
deprived of news of the rest of the world - except when US interests
are involved - and don't appear to object to it. I have never heard
this disputed, nor that the average American does *not* watch a lot of
tv (thereby giving tacit approval).

There are undoubtedly a lot of what one might call 'World Citizens' in
the US, but there are also undoubtedly a lot who don't even begin to
understand that, eg the Arab world doesn't really want McDonalds, Coca
Cola and Hollywood blockbuster tributes to the art of murder and
explosion flooding their markets by stealth (cultural imperialism).
Could have done with a lot less of it here - but US companies, like
tobacco peddlars targetting children, get 'em while they're young!

It may not be how most of you think, but being too apathetic to vote
the one's who do, out, is not too impressive. I mean, if not by direct
majority mandate then can't you guys do something by objecting to
electoral corruption, perhaps, say with something of the fervour of
the sixties? Are the citizens of the most powerful nation on earth
really so helpless now?

Shane



No arguments here...I regularly check out BBC as well as the US news
outhouses (er...I mean outlets) but it only goes so far when the guy next
door is whining about how things are and yet considers voting not an
option. How do you reason with someone who agrees but doesn't want to do
something.

I think the fervor of the 60s is out of the question, but maybe a little
of 1776? I'm just as frustrated as the rest of the world.

--
"Time will bring to light whatever is hidden;
it will cover up and conceal what is now shining in splendor."
Horace (65 - 8 BC); Roman poet.

Mike

"Heather" wrote in
:

We have one advantage they don't have.....we can kick out our Prime
Minister if he ticks us off. They can't get rid of a sitting President
no way, no how. Pity.....as the old tea commercials used to say.



We have impeachment, but it has never worked. And Canada is a good
neighbor, but when you figure a typical US student can't tell where
Churchill Bay is on a globe, you have to wonder...

--
"Time will bring to light whatever is hidden;
it will cover up and conceal what is now shining in splendor."
Horace (65 - 8 BC); Roman poet.

Mike

BJ Honeycut wrote in
:

"Heather" wrote in
:

We have one advantage they don't have.....we can kick out our Prime
Minister if he ticks us off. They can't get rid of a sitting President
no way, no how. Pity.....as the old tea commercials used to say.



We have impeachment, but it has never worked. And Canada is a good
neighbor, but when you figure a typical US student can't tell where
Churchill Bay is on a globe, you have to wonder...


Sorry, I meant Hudson Bay, but to a Polar Bear in Churchill Manitoba, it's
all the same.

--
"Time will bring to light whatever is hidden;
it will cover up and conceal what is now shining in splendor."
Horace (65 - 8 BC); Roman poet.

Mike

"BJ Honeycut" wrote in message
. ..
"Shane" wrote in
:

I believe the term was isolationim, and please don't blame the
average US citizen for that...It was started vy a bunch of folks of a
particular political party and had little to do with how most of us
think, which is unfortunately narrow minded and egocentric.


I think you're being a bit hard on yourself there!

But seriously, I think Figgs is probably referring to the famous
condition of average US citizenship whereby they are more-or-less
deprived of news of the rest of the world - except when US interests
are involved - and don't appear to object to it. I have never heard
this disputed, nor that the average American does *not* watch a lot of
tv (thereby giving tacit approval).

There are undoubtedly a lot of what one might call 'World Citizens' in
the US, but there are also undoubtedly a lot who don't even begin to
understand that, eg the Arab world doesn't really want McDonalds, Coca
Cola and Hollywood blockbuster tributes to the art of murder and
explosion flooding their markets by stealth (cultural imperialism).
Could have done with a lot less of it here - but US companies, like
tobacco peddlars targetting children, get 'em while they're young!

It may not be how most of you think, but being too apathetic to vote
the one's who do, out, is not too impressive. I mean, if not by direct
majority mandate then can't you guys do something by objecting to
electoral corruption, perhaps, say with something of the fervour of
the sixties? Are the citizens of the most powerful nation on earth
really so helpless now?

Shane



No arguments here...I regularly check out BBC as well as the US news
outhouses (er...I mean outlets) but it only goes so far when the guy next
door is whining about how things are and yet considers voting not an
option. How do you reason with someone who agrees but doesn't want to do
something.

Meanwhile I *was* always ready to admit it's not necessarily any better
here! Well...not much.

Guess it's what comes of playing on the weaknesses of the working guy, you
know, 'hey, he likes to eat chicken until he's sick, offer him as much as he
likes and he'll vote for us!'

It seems, from here, the most vociferous supporters of unregulated trade are
the Americans who keep talking about God. I wonder how they imagine the
resulting business practices differ from the way the devil would do things?
Maybe they don't *really* Believe, and the whole point is to justify
*whatever* they do in the name of making a buck.


I think the fervor of the 60s is out of the question, but maybe a little
of 1776? I'm just as frustrated as the rest of the world.


Amen to that. British managerial classes are as feeble as ever, but as
emboldened as ever by the same traditions that still make our media give a
flying f??? what Prince Charles does or doesn't do!...Do they have any
guillotines in Boston?

Shane

"Heather" wrote in message
...
Yes, Shane.....I was referring to the average American's myopic view of
the rest of the world. We see it more up here in Canada than anywhere
else, I think. We simply do not exist on CNN for example. There is just
a huge barren land mass above the US border.

When Homer Simpson doesn't know where Canada is on the map, many don't
realise, I'm sure, it's based on an alarming statistic concerning American
students! Then most statistics regarding American students are alarming.

No weather, no politics, no nothing. It does get infuriating at times.

OTOH, I guess we can't blame Joe Average Merkin when their President won't
allow the media to tell them the truth about things like Fort Dover and
bodybags and so on. We knew.....but they didn't.....at that time. But I
now think that they are catching on as to how badly they were misled by
Bush and Cheney, et al.

We have one advantage they don't have.....we can kick out our Prime
Minister if he ticks us off. They can't get rid of a sitting President no
way, no how. Pity.....as the old tea commercials used to say.

But I did promise not to get political.....lol.


Life is politics. Windows is life! Therefore etc etc etc...

Shane

"Shane" wrote in
:


"BJ Honeycut" wrote in message
. ..
"Shane" wrote in
:

I believe the term was isolationim, and please don't blame the
average US citizen for that...It was started vy a bunch of folks of
a particular political party and had little to do with how most of
us think, which is unfortunately narrow minded and egocentric.


I think you're being a bit hard on yourself there!

But seriously, I think Figgs is probably referring to the famous
condition of average US citizenship whereby they are more-or-less
deprived of news of the rest of the world - except when US interests
are involved - and don't appear to object to it. I have never heard
this disputed, nor that the average American does *not* watch a lot
of tv (thereby giving tacit approval).

There are undoubtedly a lot of what one might call 'World Citizens'
in the US, but there are also undoubtedly a lot who don't even begin
to understand that, eg the Arab world doesn't really want McDonalds,
Coca Cola and Hollywood blockbuster tributes to the art of murder
and explosion flooding their markets by stealth (cultural
imperialism). Could have done with a lot less of it here - but US
companies, like tobacco peddlars targetting children, get 'em while
they're young!

It may not be how most of you think, but being too apathetic to vote
the one's who do, out, is not too impressive. I mean, if not by
direct majority mandate then can't you guys do something by
objecting to electoral corruption, perhaps, say with something of
the fervour of the sixties? Are the citizens of the most powerful
nation on earth really so helpless now?

Shane



No arguments here...I regularly check out BBC as well as the US news
outhouses (er...I mean outlets) but it only goes so far when the guy
next door is whining about how things are and yet considers voting
not an option. How do you reason with someone who agrees but doesn't
want to do something.

Meanwhile I *was* always ready to admit it's not necessarily any
better here! Well...not much.

Guess it's what comes of playing on the weaknesses of the working guy,
you know, 'hey, he likes to eat chicken until he's sick, offer him as
much as he likes and he'll vote for us!'

It seems, from here, the most vociferous supporters of unregulated
trade are the Americans who keep talking about God. I wonder how they
imagine the resulting business practices differ from the way the devil
would do things? Maybe they don't *really* Believe, and the whole
point is to justify *whatever* they do in the name of making a buck.


I think the fervor of the 60s is out of the question, but maybe a
little of 1776? I'm just as frustrated as the rest of the world.


Amen to that. British managerial classes are as feeble as ever, but as
emboldened as ever by the same traditions that still make our media
give a flying f??? what Prince Charles does or doesn't do!...Do they
have any guillotines in Boston?

Shane




Agaom. that's not a;; of us. just the rich Texas oilmen...

--
"Time will bring to light whatever is hidden;
it will cover up and conceal what is now shining in splendor."
Horace (65 - 8 BC); Roman poet.

Mike

"Shane" wrote in
:


"Heather" wrote in message
...
Yes, Shane.....I was referring to the average American's myopic view
of the rest of the world. We see it more up here in Canada than
anywhere else, I think. We simply do not exist on CNN for example.
There is just a huge barren land mass above the US border.

When Homer Simpson doesn't know where Canada is on the map, many don't
realise, I'm sure, it's based on an alarming statistic concerning
American students! Then most statistics regarding American students
are alarming.

No weather, no politics, no nothing. It does get infuriating at
times.

OTOH, I guess we can't blame Joe Average Merkin when their President
won't allow the media to tell them the truth about things like Fort
Dover and bodybags and so on. We knew.....but they didn't.....at
that time. But I now think that they are catching on as to how badly
they were misled by Bush and Cheney, et al.

We have one advantage they don't have.....we can kick out our Prime
Minister if he ticks us off. They can't get rid of a sitting
President no way, no how. Pity.....as the old tea commercials used
to say.

But I did promise not to get political.....lol.


Life is politics. Windows is life! Therefore etc etc etc...

Shane




Give us some help?

--
"Time will bring to light whatever is hidden;
it will cover up and conceal what is now shining in splendor."
Horace (65 - 8 BC); Roman poet.

Mike

BJ Honeycut wrote:
"Shane" wrote in
:


"Heather" wrote in message
...
Yes, Shane.....I was referring to the average American's myopic view
of the rest of the world. We see it more up here in Canada than
anywhere else, I think. We simply do not exist on CNN for example.
There is just a huge barren land mass above the US border.

When Homer Simpson doesn't know where Canada is on the map, many
don't realise, I'm sure, it's based on an alarming statistic
concerning American students! Then most statistics regarding
American students are alarming.

No weather, no politics, no nothing. It does get infuriating at
times.

OTOH, I guess we can't blame Joe Average Merkin when their President
won't allow the media to tell them the truth about things like Fort
Dover and bodybags and so on. We knew.....but they didn't.....at
that time. But I now think that they are catching on as to how
badly they were misled by Bush and Cheney, et al.

We have one advantage they don't have.....we can kick out our Prime
Minister if he ticks us off. They can't get rid of a sitting
President no way, no how. Pity.....as the old tea commercials used
to say.

But I did promise not to get political.....lol.


Life is politics. Windows is life! Therefore etc etc etc...

Shane




Give us some help?

Steer clear of matter transporters!


Shane