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Does anyone know if the W98 'find' command (Winkey-F) has an executable which can be issued from the 'run' box?
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none wrote:
Does anyone know if the W98 'find' command (Winkey-F) has an executable which can be issued from the 'run' box? I've wondered about that for years, because if there was such an executable, I'd take it and use it on Win-XP systems to replace the absolutely horrible file-find that Micro**** implimented in XP. But I think it's part of explorer.exe When I run cctask to see a list of processes running before and after I launch Start-Find-Files-or-folders, there is no additional process running after find is launched. |
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"98 Guy" wrote in message ...
none wrote: Does anyone know if the W98 'find' command (Winkey-F) has an executable which can be issued from the 'run' box? I've wondered about that for years, because if there was such an executable, I'd take it and use it on Win-XP systems to replace the absolutely horrible file-find that Micro**** implimented in XP. But I think it's part of explorer.exe When I run cctask to see a list of processes running before and after I launch Start-Find-Files-or-folders, there is no additional process running after find is launched. Hmmm, interesting. Considering that it might well be part of explorer. I've wondered if it was a DLL and could be initiated with a RUNDLL32.EXE statement. Perhaps someone else will chime in. |
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On Oct 21, 9:29 am, "none" wrote:
"98 Guy" wrote in ... none wrote: Does anyone know if the W98 'find' command (Winkey-F) has an executable which can be issued from the 'run' box? You can always use the dir /s command to search subdirectories for files. Not quite what you want, but it might do in a pinch. I too would prefer it over XP or even Vista. Vista is good for simple file name searches, but horrible for anything more refined. Worse than XP. |
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"98 Guy" wrote in message ...
I've wondered about that for years, because if there was such an executable, I'd take it and use it on Win-XP systems to replace the absolutely horrible file-find that Micro**** implimented in XP. snip Use Classic Search in Explorer http://www.pctools.com/guides/registry/detail/1067/ Use Classic Search in Internet Explorer http://www.pctools.com/guides/registry/detail/1068/ Restore Classic Search in Windows XP http://www.petri.co.il/restore_class...windows_xp.htm -- Glen Ventura MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 CompTIA A+ http://dts-l.net/ |
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glee wrote:
I've wondered about that for years, because if there was such an executable, I'd take it and use it on Win-XP systems to replace the absolutely horrible file-find that Micro**** implimented in XP. Use Classic Search in Explorer Use Classic Search in Internet Explorer Restore Classic Search in Windows XP All of the above instructions restore XP to it's original "classic" file-find (which removes or de-actives something called "Windows Search" - a search mechanism / interface that I've seen on some XP systems but was never sure where it came from or when or how). In fact, you might have to impliment additional registry mods not mentioned in those links to get back the classic XP file-find. But even the classic XP search interface is something I don't like compared to Windows 98 minimal yet ergonomic search interface. I find myself always having to put a check in the "advanced" box in order to find what I'm looking for in the classic XP interface. I find the layout and ergonomics of the 9x search interface much better than the classic XP interface. The drop-down "Look in" scroll and Browse list, include sub-folders check box is right there where I can quickly select it, Date and type/size is just a tab-click away. I realize that Microsoft and Apple have philosophies that tend to dumb-down, blur, obfuscate and even hide the file system from the user, and that this is a trend that has been happening for the past 5 or so years, but for those that are very comfortable with the idea of a file system, then the win-9x file-find interface represents the peak of this experience, and everything else had been downhill. |
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"98 Guy" wrote in message ...
glee wrote: I've wondered about that for years, because if there was such an executable, I'd take it and use it on Win-XP systems to replace the absolutely horrible file-find that Micro**** implimented in XP. Use Classic Search in Explorer Use Classic Search in Internet Explorer Restore Classic Search in Windows XP All of the above instructions restore XP to it's original "classic" file-find (which removes or de-actives something called "Windows Search" - a search mechanism / interface that I've seen on some XP systems but was never sure where it came from or when or how). In fact, you might have to impliment additional registry mods not mentioned in those links to get back the classic XP file-find. But even the classic XP search interface is something I don't like compared to Windows 98 minimal yet ergonomic search interface. I find myself always having to put a check in the "advanced" box in order to find what I'm looking for in the classic XP interface. I find the layout and ergonomics of the 9x search interface much better than the classic XP interface. The drop-down "Look in" scroll and Browse list, include sub-folders check box is right there where I can quickly select it, Date and type/size is just a tab-click away. I realize that Microsoft and Apple have philosophies that tend to dumb-down, blur, obfuscate and even hide the file system from the user, and that this is a trend that has been happening for the past 5 or so years, but for those that are very comfortable with the idea of a file system, then the win-9x file-find interface represents the peak of this experience, and everything else had been downhill. No....Windows Search, formerly Windows Desktop Search on XP, was an add-on...it has nothing to do with the native Windows search mechanism that came with XP. To get rid of it you uninstall it, which brings back the rather stupid XP search (lame, broken and with the animated dog). These registry changes (also available through TweakUI XP) switch from that native lame XP search to the Win2K-style search, which acts much like the Win9x search once you remember to put a check in the Advanced box. I too prefer the Win98 search for many of the same reasons you do, but the 2K-style option in XP is still better than the native search style. Agent Ransack is a decent search replacement for all versions of Windows. What I really dislike is the thing they call Windows Explorer on Vista and Win7. Explorer was fairly functional in 9x and XP, but the new versions removed a lot of what made it usable. -- Glen Ventura MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 CompTIA A+ http://dts-l.net/ |
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glee wrote:
"98 Guy" wrote in message ... glee wrote: I've wondered about that for years, because if there was such an executable, I'd take it and use it on Win-XP systems to replace the absolutely horrible file-find that Micro**** implimented in XP. Use Classic Search in Explorer Use Classic Search in Internet Explorer Restore Classic Search in Windows XP All of the above instructions restore XP to it's original "classic" file-find (which removes or de-actives something called "Windows Search" - a search mechanism / interface that I've seen on some XP systems but was never sure where it came from or when or how). In fact, you might have to impliment additional registry mods not mentioned in those links to get back the classic XP file-find. But even the classic XP search interface is something I don't like compared to Windows 98 minimal yet ergonomic search interface. I find myself always having to put a check in the "advanced" box in order to find what I'm looking for in the classic XP interface. I find the layout and ergonomics of the 9x search interface much better than the classic XP interface. The drop-down "Look in" scroll and Browse list, include sub-folders check box is right there where I can quickly select it, Date and type/size is just a tab-click away. I realize that Microsoft and Apple have philosophies that tend to dumb-down, blur, obfuscate and even hide the file system from the user, and that this is a trend that has been happening for the past 5 or so years, but for those that are very comfortable with the idea of a file system, then the win-9x file-find interface represents the peak of this experience, and everything else had been downhill. No....Windows Search, formerly Windows Desktop Search on XP, was an add-on...it has nothing to do with the native Windows search mechanism that came with XP. To get rid of it you uninstall it, which brings back the rather stupid XP search (lame, broken and with the animated dog). These registry changes (also available through TweakUI XP) switch from that native lame XP search to the Win2K-style search, which acts much like the Win9x search once you remember to put a check in the Advanced box. I too prefer the Win98 search for many of the same reasons you do, but the 2K-style option in XP is still better than the native search style. Agent Ransack is a decent search replacement for all versions of Windows. Seconded. Or better yet, FileLocator Pro, it's big brother, which is much more customizable (you can select directories to always skip, for example). What I really dislike is the thing they call Windows Explorer on Vista and Win7. Explorer was fairly functional in 9x and XP, but the new versions removed a lot of what made it usable. That's not encouraging to hear. Wonder what (else) they've removed. In XP they already removed the file extension column (per se), replacing it with "Type". |
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On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 00:40:47 +0100, glee wrote:
"98 Guy" wrote in message ... glee wrote: I've wondered about that for years, because if there was such an executable, I'd take it and use it on Win-XP systems to replace the absolutely horrible file-find that Micro**** implimented in XP. Use Classic Search in Explorer Use Classic Search in Internet Explorer Restore Classic Search in Windows XP [snipped] No....Windows Search, formerly Windows Desktop Search on XP, was an add-on...it has nothing to do with the native Windows search mechanism that came with XP. To get rid of it you uninstall it, which brings back the rather stupid XP search (lame, broken and with the animated dog). These registry changes (also available through TweakUI XP) switch from that native lame XP search to the Win2K-style search, which acts much like the Win9x search once you remember to put a check in the Advanced box. I too prefer the Win98 search for many of the same reasons you do, but the 2K-style option in XP is still better than the native search style. Agent Ransack is a decent search replacement for all versions of Windows. What I really dislike is the thing they call Windows Explorer on Vista and Win7. Explorer was fairly functional in 9x and XP, but the new versions removed a lot of what made it usable. What about winfile? :-) for w3.1/w9x, or the rerwrite for NT http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Manager_(Windows) -- "Nuns! NUNS! Reverse! Reverse!" |
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"Esra Sdrawkcab" wrote in message
newsp.vk42zhzuhswpfo@dell3100... On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 00:40:47 +0100, glee wrote: snip What I really dislike is the thing they call Windows Explorer on Vista and Win7. Explorer was fairly functional in 9x and XP, but the new versions removed a lot of what made it usable. What about winfile? :-) for w3.1/w9x, or the rerwrite for NT http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Manager_(Windows) From what I've read by the folks who did the rewrite, there are still issues even with the tweaks they did... http://www.brydon.net/winfile/ : quote Starting with Windows XP, drag and drop from WinFile to some applications does not work where it does from Explorer. Starting with Windows Vista, there seem to be some file types that do not open correctly with a double click. Although WinFile persistently remembers navigation details from instance to instance (see above), Explorer has several shortcuts that you can use as starting points (eg. "Documents" folder, "My Pictures", "Music" etc.). WinFile would not need these as much as Explorer, but they would be nice to have. WinFile was designed as a single-instance app. While you can open multiple views of a drive in WinFile, you can only have one instance of the whole program (with some exceptions involving race conditions and trickery).. You can have any number of multiple instances of Explorer open simultaneously. When you delete a file in WinFile, it is deleted. There is no visit to the recycle bin. Delete a file - it is gone. Advantage or disadvantage? You decide. If you are not an Administrator, settings are not recorded properly under Vista. This seems to be because the settings are stored in systemdirectory\winfile.ini, which is a file protection problem. I am working on a solution for it. This worked fine (for me) with Windows 2000 and Windows XP. /quote Winfile was inferior to Explorer even in Win95, except for a few functions. There are better Explorer alternatives available... http://zabkat.com/x2lite.htm or http://www.softwareok.com/?seite=Freeware/Q-dir -- Glen Ventura MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 CompTIA A+ http://dts-l.net/ |
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