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Old August 30th 04, 01:18 AM
Ryan
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Default HELP !! Defrag hang, not machine does not boot at all !!

I tried to defrag my machine. It hanged after 80% completion and
Alt-ctrl-del would not respond at all. So I Reset the machine. Now
when I try to reboot the machine beeps continuously (like a siren).
The monitor only says "Check Signal Please". I pressed Ctrl key but
there is not change. I also inserted Emergency boot disk but the
machine continues beeping on reset and does not even attempt to read
the floppy drive.

Please help !! I am completely lost.

Ryan
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Old August 30th 04, 01:32 AM
Gabriele Hauschld
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Hello Ryan,

Try switching off the computer_ and then unplugging its
power socket for about five minutes. Then try booting
again.

I hope that resolves the immediate problem and once you
have resolved it, carry out ScanDisk and Defrag.

The best m_anner in which to run Defrag_ is to run
Scandisk first and then Defrag, and also both in Safe mode
and with the Screen Saver off.
To get into Safe mode switch on the computer and keep
pressing "F5" again and again until the computer starts
loading windows.
Another way to get into Safe mode is to switch on the
computer and keep pressing "F8" again and again until the
Startup menu appears, from which select number 3 - Safe
mode.

Sometimes Defrag stalls at zero percent. I find this is
resolved simply by exiting Defrag and immediately
restarting it.

To return Windows to normal mode, simply restart the
computer from the normal Shutdown menu.
Upon returning to normal mode you may find your Desktop
icons have moved due to the different screen area which
was used by Safe mode.

Don't forget to switch your screen saver back on.

(* Anything in this message is accepted entirely at your
own risk. It is given in good faith but could still be
wrong. *)

Hope that helps.


-----Original Message-----
I tried to defrag my machine. It hanged after 80%

completion and
Alt-ctrl-del would not respond at all. So I Reset the

machine. Now
when I try to reboot the machine beeps continuously (like

a siren).
The monitor only says "Check Signal Please". I pressed

Ctrl key but
there is not change. I also inserted Emergency boot disk

but the
machine continues beeping on reset and does not even

attempt to read
the floppy drive.

Please help !! I am completely lost.

Ryan
.

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Old August 30th 04, 08:48 AM
PCR
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Probably it won't boot the floppy because BIOS needs to be set to try
the floppy before the hard drive. But I can't imagine what damage may
have been done by a Defrag aborted in that manner at 80%. Anyway...

Enter BIOS Setup & set it to boot the Floppy first.

You must press a key at boot to enter BIOS Setup. If you don't know the
key to press, try "Esc" at the manufacturer's logo. Then, the key to
press to enter BIOS setup will show up. Quickly press it. For this
Compaq, it is F10.

In BIOS, use TAB & the arrow keys to navigate, & ENTER to select. (Well,
there may be a legend showing your keys are different.)

(a) Find the "Boot Order" menu, & set it to boot the floppy first.
(b) Hit ENTER, or whatever key shows in the legend to enable.
(c) Find & select "Accept changes & Exit" in the menus.

While in there, you'd better go through all the menus & jot down the
settings. If they are not set to defaults, and somehow, someday, they
are cleared, all these settings will have to be input again.

.......Start.....something from Candlin about it........
Usually DEL, but F1, F2, F10 are also common.

Other keystrokes which might work a

AMI BIOS: Del key during the POST
DTK BIOS: Esc key during the POST
Award BIOS: Ctrl-Alt-Esc
Misc BIOS: Ctrl-Esc
Phoenix BIOS: Ctrl-Alt-Esc or Ctrl-Alt-S
IBM PS/2 BIOS: Ctrl-Alt-Ins after Ctrl-Alt-Del

If all else fails, shut down, power off, unplug the keyboard,
and power up again, as some older systems will default
to the CMOS Setup if a keyboard is not found.
.......End........................................ .......................


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Ryan" wrote in message
om...
| I tried to defrag my machine. It hanged after 80% completion and
| Alt-ctrl-del would not respond at all. So I Reset the machine. Now
| when I try to reboot the machine beeps continuously (like a siren).
| The monitor only says "Check Signal Please". I pressed Ctrl key but
| there is not change. I also inserted Emergency boot disk but the
| machine continues beeping on reset and does not even attempt to read
| the floppy drive.
|
| Please help !! I am completely lost.
|
| Ryan


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Old August 31st 04, 02:40 PM
Ryan
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I checked that the machine has Award BIOS.

Thanks for the responses. Well, I tried unplugging for some time,
plugging in and then reboot. - No Change (NC). Computer on boot beeps
high/low continuously. Monitor does nothing - only says Check Signal
and shuts off.

I cannot enter the BIOS setup at all. Also emergency boot disk is of
no use as machine does not try to read drive on boot.

Tried the following:
(a) Disconnected hard drive from motherboard and reboot. - No Change
(NC)
(b) Removed RAM from board and reboot - (NC)
(c) Checked that everything is seated tight in the slots - (NC)
(d) Cleared CMOS based on jumper instructions provided in motherboard
(OZZY) manual. - (NC).

Someone mentioned that it could be a video card problem or a bad CPU
issue.
Note that this started after I had to reset after a defrag (attempt)
that ran for more than a day. I had to reset after 80% completion as
machine seemed to have hanged. There were no chirps from the machine
CPU (dead??) and Alt-Ctrl-Del would not respond.

How can I test this? Especially if the CPU is bad - I may have to take
it to a shop as I don't have another machine where I can swap CPUs to
see if that will fix it.

Are Intel P3 failures common like this? Well, my machine is 5 years
old now.

Thanks!
Ryan





"PCR" wrote in message ...
Probably it won't boot the floppy because BIOS needs to be set to try
the floppy before the hard drive. But I can't imagine what damage may
have been done by a Defrag aborted in that manner at 80%. Anyway...

Enter BIOS Setup & set it to boot the Floppy first.

You must press a key at boot to enter BIOS Setup. If you don't know the
key to press, try "Esc" at the manufacturer's logo. Then, the key to
press to enter BIOS setup will show up. Quickly press it. For this
Compaq, it is F10.

In BIOS, use TAB & the arrow keys to navigate, & ENTER to select. (Well,
there may be a legend showing your keys are different.)

(a) Find the "Boot Order" menu, & set it to boot the floppy first.
(b) Hit ENTER, or whatever key shows in the legend to enable.
(c) Find & select "Accept changes & Exit" in the menus.

While in there, you'd better go through all the menus & jot down the
settings. If they are not set to defaults, and somehow, someday, they
are cleared, all these settings will have to be input again.

......Start.....something from Candlin about it........
Usually DEL, but F1, F2, F10 are also common.

Other keystrokes which might work a

AMI BIOS: Del key during the POST
DTK BIOS: Esc key during the POST
Award BIOS: Ctrl-Alt-Esc
Misc BIOS: Ctrl-Esc
Phoenix BIOS: Ctrl-Alt-Esc or Ctrl-Alt-S
IBM PS/2 BIOS: Ctrl-Alt-Ins after Ctrl-Alt-Del

If all else fails, shut down, power off, unplug the keyboard,
and power up again, as some older systems will default
to the CMOS Setup if a keyboard is not found.
......End......................................... ......................


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Ryan" wrote in message
om...
| I tried to defrag my machine. It hanged after 80% completion and
| Alt-ctrl-del would not respond at all. So I Reset the machine. Now
| when I try to reboot the machine beeps continuously (like a siren).
| The monitor only says "Check Signal Please". I pressed Ctrl key but
| there is not change. I also inserted Emergency boot disk but the
| machine continues beeping on reset and does not even attempt to read
| the floppy drive.
|
| Please help !! I am completely lost.
|
| Ryan

  #5  
Old August 31st 04, 08:22 PM
PCR
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Well, a Defrag aborted by a shut down after 80% & after running for a
day is real bad in my estimation. I would be flabbergasted if recovery
is possible. Of course, I guess only the partition that was actually
being Defragged is likely to have been harmed. Yet, I can't think how
even THAT could prevent access to BIOS or a floppy boot.

| Monitor does nothing - only says Check Signal and shuts off.

I'm thinking the monitor must be bad or badly plugged in. I suppose that
would affect BIOS, floppy boot, & Windows. All of them need a monitor!
Well, I guess it may also be the Video Adapter.

http://sysopt.earthweb.com/biosbmc.html BIOS beeps
http://www.amptron.com/html/bios.beepcodes.html
http://www.comptechdoc.org/hardware/beepcodes/1.htm
http://www.computerhope.com/beep.htm
http://www.tcwo.com/support/new/beeps.htm BIOS beeps
http://www.bioscentral.com/ BIOS Central
http://www.extremetech.com/article/0...%3D1614,00.asp
BIOS Info
http://www.itcp.net/~awsh/ BIOS & hardware Optimization Guide
ftp://ftp.heise.de/pub/ct/ctsi/ctbios15.zip ctbios Identify BIOS
http://www.cgsecurity.org/ BIOS manipulator, Password recoverer


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Ryan" wrote in message
m...
| I checked that the machine has Award BIOS.
|
| Thanks for the responses. Well, I tried unplugging for some time,
| plugging in and then reboot. - No Change (NC). Computer on boot beeps
| high/low continuously. Monitor does nothing - only says Check Signal
| and shuts off.
|
| I cannot enter the BIOS setup at all. Also emergency boot disk is of
| no use as machine does not try to read drive on boot.
|
| Tried the following:
| (a) Disconnected hard drive from motherboard and reboot. - No Change
| (NC)
| (b) Removed RAM from board and reboot - (NC)
| (c) Checked that everything is seated tight in the slots - (NC)
| (d) Cleared CMOS based on jumper instructions provided in motherboard
| (OZZY) manual. - (NC).
|
| Someone mentioned that it could be a video card problem or a bad CPU
| issue.
| Note that this started after I had to reset after a defrag (attempt)
| that ran for more than a day. I had to reset after 80% completion as
| machine seemed to have hanged. There were no chirps from the machine
| CPU (dead??) and Alt-Ctrl-Del would not respond.
|
| How can I test this? Especially if the CPU is bad - I may have to take
| it to a shop as I don't have another machine where I can swap CPUs to
| see if that will fix it.
|
| Are Intel P3 failures common like this? Well, my machine is 5 years
| old now.
|
| Thanks!
| Ryan
|
|
|
|
|
| "PCR" wrote in message
...
| Probably it won't boot the floppy because BIOS needs to be set to
try
| the floppy before the hard drive. But I can't imagine what damage
may
| have been done by a Defrag aborted in that manner at 80%. Anyway...
|
| Enter BIOS Setup & set it to boot the Floppy first.
|
| You must press a key at boot to enter BIOS Setup. If you don't know
the
| key to press, try "Esc" at the manufacturer's logo. Then, the key to
| press to enter BIOS setup will show up. Quickly press it. For this
| Compaq, it is F10.
|
| In BIOS, use TAB & the arrow keys to navigate, & ENTER to select.
(Well,
| there may be a legend showing your keys are different.)
|
| (a) Find the "Boot Order" menu, & set it to boot the floppy first.
| (b) Hit ENTER, or whatever key shows in the legend to enable.
| (c) Find & select "Accept changes & Exit" in the menus.
|
| While in there, you'd better go through all the menus & jot down the
| settings. If they are not set to defaults, and somehow, someday,
they
| are cleared, all these settings will have to be input again.
|
| ......Start.....something from Candlin about it........
| Usually DEL, but F1, F2, F10 are also common.
|
| Other keystrokes which might work a
|
| AMI BIOS: Del key during the POST
| DTK BIOS: Esc key during the POST
| Award BIOS: Ctrl-Alt-Esc
| Misc BIOS: Ctrl-Esc
| Phoenix BIOS: Ctrl-Alt-Esc or Ctrl-Alt-S
| IBM PS/2 BIOS: Ctrl-Alt-Ins after Ctrl-Alt-Del
|
| If all else fails, shut down, power off, unplug the keyboard,
| and power up again, as some older systems will default
| to the CMOS Setup if a keyboard is not found.
|
.......End........................................ .......................
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|

| "Ryan" wrote in message
| om...
| | I tried to defrag my machine. It hanged after 80% completion and
| | Alt-ctrl-del would not respond at all. So I Reset the machine. Now
| | when I try to reboot the machine beeps continuously (like a
siren).
| | The monitor only says "Check Signal Please". I pressed Ctrl key
but
| | there is not change. I also inserted Emergency boot disk but the
| | machine continues beeping on reset and does not even attempt to
read
| | the floppy drive.
| |
| | Please help !! I am completely lost.
| |
| | Ryan


 




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