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Old October 17th 11, 02:15 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Lostgallifreyan
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Franc Zabkar wrote in
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However, one undeniable benefit of being able to disconnect and
reconnect in such an expedient fashion is that I'm able to circumvent
those sites that restrict the number of downloads. If clearing the
site's cookies doesn't do it, then a quick disconnect and reconnect
gives me a new IP address. This is because my ISP assigns dynamic IPs
rather than static ones.


I like doing it for that too, and some places put a block IP ban on certain
kinds of access. Google Maps does this if people write WGET batch scripts to
fetch large numbers of detailed map tiles (Don't ask how I know this.

It's usually faster to do release/renew on the WAN IP page of the modem
though, and it makes sure that you don't get another change forced by
impending lease end time. One thing: I refresh the page after a release or
renew action as it usually IS carried out with each attempt, and many systems
fail to update the page to reflect that fact, so a manual refresh of the page
beats trying to do what appears to have failed if it it actually worked first
time..
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Old October 17th 11, 02:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Lostgallifreyan wrote in
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thanatoid wrote in
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Win 98SELite.

And I have a home made 2-outlet power bar with 2
outlets/switches into which my scanner and modem adapters
are plugged into. I turn them on and off with my toe,
since it's in the floor.

I use the same OS, and I thought it worth adding that I
turn off the computer when unattended


Me too. I used to leave it on all night and leave the house, and
that was before I even had a firewall and an AV, but I was just
DL music with a 33.6 modem.

unless some major
task is running and needs the time. My W98 install (never
mind the ultra-fast X98 I intend to work on again soon)
boots a lot faster than the modem can restart, so I leave
the modem running. When I really want to be sure a machine
is offline during a night-time process run I pull its RJ45,
never mind all the other wheezes we can come up with. There
is NEVER any ambiguity or ambivalence about doing that.


That's also one more reason wires are better than wireless.
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Old October 17th 11, 02:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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thanatoid wrote in
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unless some major
task is running and needs the time. My W98 install (never
mind the ultra-fast X98 I intend to work on again soon)
boots a lot faster than the modem can restart, so I leave
the modem running. When I really want to be sure a machine
is offline during a night-time process run I pull its RJ45,
never mind all the other wheezes we can come up with. There
is NEVER any ambiguity or ambivalence about doing that.


That's also one more reason wires are better than wireless.



Yes, I just had a vision of how this might scale up... Analog modular
synthesizers. People see all those patch cords and wonder about the
nightmarish tangles that result. Imagine the baking of their noodles of they
had to do it with Bluetooth. I love bluetooth but there are limits....

There is probably a very good reason that nature invented roots, nerves,
strings and wires rather than teleporting. It's amazing that it let us have
radio.
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Old October 18th 11, 05:09 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Lostgallifreyan wrote in
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snip

There is probably a very good reason that nature invented
roots, nerves, strings and wires rather than teleporting.
It's amazing that it let us have radio.


A LOT of people considered radio the beginning of the end of
music. Sometimes I wonder if they were not right.

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Old October 18th 11, 05:24 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Lostgallifreyan wrote in
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snip

There is probably a very good reason that nature invented
roots, nerves, strings and wires rather than teleporting.
It's amazing that it let us have radio.


A LOT of people considered radio the beginning of the end of
music. Sometimes I wonder if they were not right.

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Old October 18th 11, 11:08 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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thanatoid wrote in
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A LOT of people considered radio the beginning of the end of
music. Sometimes I wonder if they were not right.



The end of music will not occur till the Stranglers no longer play, at the
very least.
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Old October 19th 11, 08:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 08:15:34 -0500, Lostgallifreyan
put finger to keyboard and composed:

It's usually faster to do release/renew on the WAN IP page of the modem
though, and it makes sure that you don't get another change forced by
impending lease end time.


I confess that I don't know how to do that. Is it still possible if
the PPP client is in the modem's firmware, as it is in my case? And by
release and renew, are you referring to these functions as implemented
in Winipcfg?

BTW, a disconnect/reconnect sequence only takes a few seconds.

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Old October 19th 11, 08:43 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 08:40:06 -0400, 98 Guy put finger to
keyboard and composed:

You do realize that given the NAT-routing capability inside your modem,
that your computer is effectively shielded from unsolicited incoming
packets - don't you?


Yes. Surprisingly, though, my original ISP disables NAT by default:
http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/DSL...work_Setup.htm

Yes, that particular aspect of getting a new IP address to continue free
downloading from one-click file hosters or file-lockers is something I'm
well aware of.

I use a program called Jdownloader to facilitate downloading from those
sites, and one of the things that Jdownloader does is to automatically
perform a log-in into my router to cause a disconnect and reconnect when
necessary to continue downloading.


Interesting. Thanks.

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Old October 19th 11, 10:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Franc Zabkar wrote in
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I confess that I don't know how to do that. Is it still possible if
the PPP client is in the modem's firmware, as it is in my case? And by
release and renew, are you referring to these functions as implemented
in Winipcfg?


The same (in principle). I found the modem web-based config had its own
ability to do this, as it was now the sole direct access to the ISP's line.
The local version will act likewise, but for the DHCP server in the modem (or
router if there's one interving, with its own DHCP server, in which case it
too will have release/renew for the hub/modem DHCP server. I don't know if
this is relevant for static IP's. It might work but it certainly wouldn't get
a new one.

I'm not well up on PPP, though I heard of PPPoE, and I know mine is PPPoA,
and it certainly works for that one.

BTW, a disconnect/reconnect sequence only takes a few seconds.


You can have milliseconds. But bear in mind that the config page might not
refresh to show the fact. Forced refresh will though, after doing the deed. I
suspect that a release/renew only differs from connect/disconnect in forcing
a lease time to start fresh, which can be useful if you want to occupy a new
dynamic IP long enough to stop the ISP changing it yet again if the lease
ends early. (Or maybe BOTH forms restart a lease, and make no difference...)
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Old October 31st 11, 07:16 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 14:01:13 +0100, 98 Guy wrote:



Firewall software running on windows 98 has ZERO usefulness from a
security standpoint.

I use KPF (last freeware version) - it tells me if something nasty on my
PC tries to "phone home".



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