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Daylight Savings Patch
"John John" wrote in message ... | MEB wrote: | "... et al." wrote in message | ... | | tom wrote: | | | | "... et al."wrote: | | | | tom wrote: | | | | "PCR" wrote: | | | | MEB wrote: | | |http://www.grystmill.com/articles/tz_update.htm | | | | Subsequently, Terhune agreed with John John in another thread that | steps | | (g) though (j) [below] would also have to be done after running his | | .reg, but obviously not steps (a) through (h). Looks like the one | | from...http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#TZU | | ...does it's own (g) through (j), though. Terhune had an objection to | | that one, though, for another reason. | | | | Where are these conversations? I cannot find them when I search the | | news groups. | | | | Gary answering 'John John', agreeing he'd forgotten to add something: | | | | | | | | The above link does not work. | | | | It's a Universal, well Global, Resource Identifier not limited to | | Google. If it works depends on setup (Newsclient & OS) and the retention | | of posts at your Newsgroup Service Provider. It is the same thing as | | what you found via the next link: | | | | | http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion/... | | | | That still does not explain if you need to do those steps for 98SE. | | It's pretty ambiguous. Are the extra steps needed for some systems, | | but not all? I am not sure. | | | | I have a bunch of systems to do, so I would like to avoid extra steps | | if possible. | | | | Understandable. | | | | In my 'locale' /they/ haven't changed these self-delusion rules, with | | mucking around with /relative/ time, recently so i have only skimmed | | through the discussions about it. | | | | So you'd better wait until the earth turns so that Gary, PCR and the | | others 'over there' wakes up and and comes back to you with more | | detailed info. | | | | -- | | Nah-ah. I'm staying out of this. ... Now, here's my opinion. | | | | Please followup in the newsgroup. | | E-mail address is invalid due to spam-control. | | IIRC, the issue was addressed. | One issue was the need to shut down the computer to ensure the registry | changes took effect on 98 and NT [unlike other newer OSs that might refresh | hives occasionally or automatically] but then if one installs much if | anything that should be a no-brainer, no shutdown - no proper registry | changes and potential loss due to some prewritten registry loss or other | issue. I would do this shutdown and restart for either suggested fix and | EVERY installation regardless of no supposed need. Its always better to be | safe than sorry. We should all realize by now, how effective others claims | are,; one need only think of how many times have we had to override defaults | or set program settings for them to work in our individual and unique | systems. | | As for the need to change timezones back and forth: that, to me, seems it | would be taken care of during the time period from now til the actual change | period. The registry will/should have been updated everywhere [swap and | otherwise] due to length of time involved; however, if INSTANT verification | is needed, or if waiting until the "last minute" or after the change has | taken effect, then it appears, the timezone changeovers would be needed, as | these would force instant change, again with necessary shutdowns and | restarts. | | But then Gary would be the one to actually confirm exactly what his | modification requires, and what those who tested it reported. Just as the | one on MGDX would have to be verified by the users of that particular fix. | | I open this discussion again for those verifications of either or other | fixes. | | As I understand it, on Windows 98 the information is stored in these 2 | registry keys: | | HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Time Zones | | HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\TimeZoneInformation | | The first key contains the database for _ALL_ time zones. The second | key contains the information for the time zone _CURRENTLY_ being used on | the computer. The information in this second key was _COPIED_ from the | database information stored in the first key _WHEN_ the time zone was | set. If the information now is different than when the time zone was | set, the information in the second key has to be refreshed to reflect | the changes made in the first key, if not the time will not change as | expected on the new date. | | The information above can be confirmed (infered) by reading various | Microsoft KB articles regarding time zones and Windows 9x. For example | this is explained in one article: | | [quote] | | Changes made with Time Zone Editor affect the stored data for time zones | in the registry. If a time zone is already set on the computer, that | data is saved in another location in the registry. In order for the new | information to be used, you must use the Date/Time tool in Control Panel | and select or re-select the time zone. | | [End quote] | | http://support.microsoft.com/kb/158195/ | http://support.microsoft.com/kb/886775 | | In these articles Microsoft clearly instructs Windows 98 users to change | the information in the HKLM TimeZoneInformation key. | | John | | So in essence, if those areas are properly changed by the fixes, then the next shutdown and hard restart would complete the change including residuals in, for instance, the swap file and residuals in memory .. Correct? -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ BLOG - http://peoplescounsel.spaces.live.com/ Public Notice or the "real world" http://groups.google.com/group/the-peoples-law?hl=en - discussion group for general aspects of Law verses the Peoples' of the world "Most people, sometime in their lives, stumble across truth. Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their business as if nothing had happen." Winston Churchill Or to put it another way: Morpheus can offer you the two pills; but only you can choose whether you take the red pill or the blue one. _______________ |
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