Concern over security issues in Windows

I am becoming more concerned that security issues continue to arise with
Microsoft Windows. When will Microsoft be able to make operating systems
that are more secure? The following web sites describe my concern:

http://eeye.com/html/research/upcoming/index.html
http://eeye.com/html/research/upcoming/20041115.html
http://eeye.com/html/research/upcoming/20040802-C.html

All of your comments are welcome. Thank you for your time. :

Ye shall always have security issues in *any* OS. (And if you're concerned
about security, for G-d's sake upgrade to WinXP SP2!)
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE)

Dan wrote:
I am becoming more concerned that security issues continue to arise with
Microsoft Windows. When will Microsoft be able to make operating systems
that are more secure? The following web sites describe my concern:

http://eeye.com/html/research/upcoming/index.html
http://eeye.com/html/research/upcoming/20041115.html
http://eeye.com/html/research/upcoming/20040802-C.html

All of your comments are welcome. Thank you for your time. :

I run a dual-boot with 98SE (for old games and because I like 98SE) and
XP-SP2 on two hard drives with 98SE being in Fat32 and XP-SP2 being in
NTFS.

"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
Ye shall always have security issues in *any* OS. (And if you're
concerned
about security, for G-d's sake upgrade to WinXP SP2!)
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE)

Dan wrote:
I am becoming more concerned that security issues continue to arise
with
Microsoft Windows. When will Microsoft be able to make operating
systems
that are more secure? The following web sites describe my concern:

http://eeye.com/html/research/upcoming/index.html
http://eeye.com/html/research/upcoming/20041115.html
http://eeye.com/html/research/upcoming/20040802-C.html

All of your comments are welcome. Thank you for your time. :

Suggest you don't install any networking facility on the Win98 side. =
Particularly no internet connection.

--=20
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
=20
"Dan" wrote in message =
...
I run a dual-boot with 98SE (for old games and because I like 98SE) =
and
XP-SP2 on two hard drives with 98SE being in Fat32 and XP-SP2 being in
NTFS.
=20
"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
Ye shall always have security issues in *any* OS. (And if you're
concerned
about security, for G-d's sake upgrade to WinXP SP2!)
--=20
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE)

Dan wrote:
I am becoming more concerned that security issues continue to =
arise
with
Microsoft Windows. When will Microsoft be able to make operating
systems
that are more secure? The following web sites describe my =
concern:

http://eeye.com/html/research/upcoming/index.html
http://eeye.com/html/research/upcoming/20041115.html
http://eeye.com/html/research/upcoming/20040802-C.html

All of your comments are welcome. Thank you for your time. :

Oh, why is that, GAry? eg

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
Suggest you don't install any networking facility on the Win98 side.
Particularly no internet connection.


"Dan" wrote in message
...
I run a dual-boot with 98SE (for old games and because I like 98SE) and
XP-SP2 on two hard drives with 98SE being in Fat32 and XP-SP2 being in
NTFS.

"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
Ye shall always have security issues in *any* OS. (And if you're
concerned
about security, for G-d's sake upgrade to WinXP SP2!)
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE)

Dan wrote:
I am becoming more concerned that security issues continue to arise
with
Microsoft Windows. When will Microsoft be able to make operating
systems
that are more secure? The following web sites describe my concern:

http://eeye.com/html/research/upcoming/index.html
http://eeye.com/html/research/upcoming/20041115.html
http://eeye.com/html/research/upcoming/20040802-C.html

All of your comments are welcome. Thank you for your time. :

Well, see....

If it's only the "gaming" OS, Dan's not likely to remember to keep it up =
to date, regularly run anti-malware scans, etc. If he doesn't think of =
the Win98 side as an internet tool, he's likely to forget about =
intrusion from that direction.

If a user isn't going to treat the "gaming" system as if it is *more* =
vulnerable to invasion than the "serious" side, he's gonna get a rude =
awakening some day. 'Cause, believe me, if there's any OS that needs =
constant vigilance these days, it's any Win9x. Its only saving grace is =
that, once infected, it isn't as likely to be able to act as a server =
that continues spreading the infection. In fact, with some of these new =
babies, it will be lucky to remain in operation long enough to do anyone =
else harm. I'm still trying to figure out what has caused, at least =
three times that I know of, recently, scads of associations to be munged =
or deleted. Makes a mess that only a true geek could salivate over. To =
everyone else, I recommend reformat.

--=20
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
=20
"PA Bear" wrote in message =
...
Oh, why is that, GAry? eg
=20
Gary S. Terhune wrote:
Suggest you don't install any networking facility on the Win98 side.
Particularly no internet connection.=20
=20
=20
"Dan" wrote in message
...=20
I run a dual-boot with 98SE (for old games and because I like =
98SE) and
XP-SP2 on two hard drives with 98SE being in Fat32 and XP-SP2 =
being in
NTFS.
=20
"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
Ye shall always have security issues in *any* OS. (And if =
you're
concerned
about security, for G-d's sake upgrade to WinXP SP2!)
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE)
=20
Dan wrote:
I am becoming more concerned that security issues continue to =
arise
with
Microsoft Windows. When will Microsoft be able to make =
operating
systems
that are more secure? The following web sites describe my =
concern:
=20
http://eeye.com/html/research/upcoming/index.html
http://eeye.com/html/research/upcoming/20041115.html
http://eeye.com/html/research/upcoming/20040802-C.html
=20
All of your comments are welcome. Thank you for your time. :

Thanks for you opinions, Gary. It does take extra work to make sure that
both XP-SP2 Pro. and 98SE are up to date. You could almost say it is a
daily chore. : What do you think about open source and how it is
changing the software landscape. I am a big fan of Mozilla Firefox and
use it for most of my browsing but I use Internet Explorer when
necessary. bg

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
Well, see....

If it's only the "gaming" OS, Dan's not likely to remember to keep it up
to date, regularly run anti-malware scans, etc. If he doesn't think of
the Win98 side as an internet tool, he's likely to forget about intrusion
from that direction.

If a user isn't going to treat the "gaming" system as if it is *more*
vulnerable to invasion than the "serious" side, he's gonna get a rude
awakening some day. 'Cause, believe me, if there's any OS that needs
constant vigilance these days, it's any Win9x. Its only saving grace is
that, once infected, it isn't as likely to be able to act as a server
that continues spreading the infection. In fact, with some of these new
babies, it will be lucky to remain in operation long enough to do anyone
else harm. I'm still trying to figure out what has caused, at least three
times that I know of, recently, scads of associations to be munged or
deleted. Makes a mess that only a true geek could salivate over. To
everyone else, I recommend reformat.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
Oh, why is that, GAry? eg

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
Suggest you don't install any networking facility on the Win98 side.
Particularly no internet connection.


"Dan" wrote in message
...
I run a dual-boot with 98SE (for old games and because I like 98SE)
and
XP-SP2 on two hard drives with 98SE being in Fat32 and XP-SP2 being
in
NTFS.

"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
Ye shall always have security issues in *any* OS. (And if you're
concerned
about security, for G-d's sake upgrade to WinXP SP2!)
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE)

Dan wrote:
I am becoming more concerned that security issues continue to
arise
with
Microsoft Windows. When will Microsoft be able to make
operating
systems
that are more secure? The following web sites describe my
concern:

http://eeye.com/html/research/upcoming/index.html
http://eeye.com/html/research/upcoming/20041115.html
http://eeye.com/html/research/upcoming/20040802-C.html

All of your comments are welcome. Thank you for your time. :

I haven't the time to keep up with Open Source apps or platforms. While =
I'm for it in theory, I'm also more aware than many seem to be that just =
because Firefox, for instance, isn't apparently as vulnerable to attack, =
it's a fallacy to think that it is inherently more secure than IE. It =
probably has *more* inherent vulnerabilities, in fact. It just doesn't =
have as many hackers working day and night to break in. But the more =
popular Firefox gets, especially if it gains in corporate circles, the =
more likely bad guy is to target it. A properly weighted comparison =
would almost certainly show IE to be *more* secure, by far, than =
Firefox. Add to that, IE is an integral part of Windows these days. Just =
because you use a different web browser doesn't absolve you of keeping =
IE up to date. Ignoring IE updates while running Firefox just makes your =
system *much_more* vulnerable.

IMO, for the masses, Microsoft is safest these days. Any stats that =
purport to show otherwise are using funny math. As for Linux and other =
OS platforms, they're great for customized corporate server uses and =
geeks. I can't imagine that "average" users would ever benefit from =
running Linux on their PCs, though. I see MS as the great in-between. =
Mac on one end, totally locked into proprietary hardware and software =
(on a relative scale), Linux off in the wild, wild frontier land, and =
the great egalitarian, Microsoft, sitting fat and happy in the =
middle-ground. When the goal is to get the job done with minimal muss or =
fuss, and relatively maximal support, and yet retain maximum =
flexibility, I'll vote for MS every day and twice on Sundays.

--=20
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
=20
"Dan" wrote in message =
...
Thanks for you opinions, Gary. It does take extra work to make sure =
that
both XP-SP2 Pro. and 98SE are up to date. You could almost say it is =
a
daily chore. : What do you think about open source and how it is
changing the software landscape. I am a big fan of Mozilla Firefox =
and
use it for most of my browsing but I use Internet Explorer when
necessary. bg
=20
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
Well, see....
=20
If it's only the "gaming" OS, Dan's not likely to remember to keep it =
up
to date, regularly run anti-malware scans, etc. If he doesn't think of
the Win98 side as an internet tool, he's likely to forget about =
intrusion
from that direction.
=20
If a user isn't going to treat the "gaming" system as if it is *more*
vulnerable to invasion than the "serious" side, he's gonna get a rude
awakening some day. 'Cause, believe me, if there's any OS that needs
constant vigilance these days, it's any Win9x. Its only saving grace =
is
that, once infected, it isn't as likely to be able to act as a server
that continues spreading the infection. In fact, with some of these =
new
babies, it will be lucky to remain in operation long enough to do =
anyone
else harm. I'm still trying to figure out what has caused, at least =
three
times that I know of, recently, scads of associations to be munged or
deleted. Makes a mess that only a true geek could salivate over. To
everyone else, I recommend reformat.
=20
--=20
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
=20
"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
Oh, why is that, GAry? eg

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
Suggest you don't install any networking facility on the Win98 =
side.
Particularly no internet connection.


"Dan" wrote in message
...
I run a dual-boot with 98SE (for old games and because I like =
98SE)
and
XP-SP2 on two hard drives with 98SE being in Fat32 and XP-SP2 =
being
in
NTFS.

"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
Ye shall always have security issues in *any* OS. (And if =
you're
concerned
about security, for G-d's sake upgrade to WinXP SP2!)
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE)

Dan wrote:
I am becoming more concerned that security issues continue =
to
arise
with
Microsoft Windows. When will Microsoft be able to make
operating
systems
that are more secure? The following web sites describe my
concern:

http://eeye.com/html/research/upcoming/index.html
http://eeye.com/html/research/upcoming/20041115.html
http://eeye.com/html/research/upcoming/20040802-C.html

All of your comments are welcome. Thank you for your time. =
:

Thanks again for all your comments. I will make sure to keep I.E. and
other Microsoft's components updated through Windows Update as well as
updating my firewall, antivirus software, anti-spyware software, etc.
sigh, lots of work and on both operating systems :

Well Microsoft has released a critical update(s) that addressed one of the
issues in the eeye.com website. The only other issue they now list is one
that affects Windows 2000 which I do not use but I would be wary in regards
to people that use Windows 2000.

"Dan" wrote in message
...
: Thanks again for all your comments. I will make sure to keep I.E. and
: other Microsoft's components updated through Windows Update as well as
: updating my firewall, antivirus software, anti-spyware software, etc.
: sigh, lots of work and on both operating systems :
: