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  #1  
Old October 18th 08, 07:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
skibuz
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Posts: 36
Default Unable to connect to Hardwired Lan with Win98 SE

I have dusted off my HP 8760C Pavillion and reformatted and reloaded Win 98.
Then added Win 98SE. Prior to the reload I had it connected via Ethernet
cable to my Linksys WRT610N network. It connected basically plug and play.
However, the computer kept needing to be rebooted so I did the reload. Now I
can't get it connected to my LAN. I have tried to compare the Network
Settings on my Dell XP desktop, but the language seems to be different
between Win XP and Win 98SE.

If someone could help me with the settings required to get this connected, I
would be very greatful!
Thank you!
  #2  
Old October 18th 08, 09:17 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
MEB[_2_]
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Posts: 1,626
Default Unable to connect to Hardwired Lan with Win98 SE

It may be easier to just remove the network settings on both the XP and 98
computer and start from scratch.

HOWEVER, start with the 98 computer first, before messing the XP/VISTA/other
box{es} up.
First check firewall settings on the system boxes to see if the IP range
for the local network is included and what its range is.
Disable Anti-virus and firewalls [after removing any Internet
connection/device from the network].
THEN check to see if the 98 box is in that IP range.
Make sure you are using the SAME workgroup throughout the network AND that
the network ALLOWS connection from the 98 system.
Make sure the 98 system has Microsoft Networking installed and TCP/IP
protocol.
Make sure that if dynamic ranges are used [assigned from a router or
server] that the 98 box is set [in Network SettingsTCP/IP settings] to
receive from the network.
Once the 98 system is in the local network range and you have checked the
above, reset [power down and restart after a few minutes] the network
controller/router and the computers [unless a major network], start the
modem and/or modem/router first then the computers, and see if it is found.
IF a large network, release and refresh the IP on the computers.
Try pinging the other computers; then ping a known Internet ping returning
address like Google's [after re-enabling the firewalls and other disabled
apps].

Check here for other ideas:
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/gen/se...NETWORKING.htm

Still need more, post back with where you're stuck.
Post back with the fix and results if successful for other users.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org
a Peoples' counsel
_ _
~~
"skibuz" wrote in message
news | I have dusted off my HP 8760C Pavillion and reformatted and reloaded Win
98.
| Then added Win 98SE. Prior to the reload I had it connected via Ethernet
| cable to my Linksys WRT610N network. It connected basically plug and play.
| However, the computer kept needing to be rebooted so I did the reload. Now
I
| can't get it connected to my LAN. I have tried to compare the Network
| Settings on my Dell XP desktop, but the language seems to be different
| between Win XP and Win 98SE.
|
| If someone could help me with the settings required to get this connected,
I
| would be very greatful!
| Thank you!


  #3  
Old October 18th 08, 09:17 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
MEB[_2_]
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Posts: 1,626
Default Unable to connect to Hardwired Lan with Win98 SE

It may be easier to just remove the network settings on both the XP and 98
computer and start from scratch.

HOWEVER, start with the 98 computer first, before messing the XP/VISTA/other
box{es} up.
First check firewall settings on the system boxes to see if the IP range
for the local network is included and what its range is.
Disable Anti-virus and firewalls [after removing any Internet
connection/device from the network].
THEN check to see if the 98 box is in that IP range.
Make sure you are using the SAME workgroup throughout the network AND that
the network ALLOWS connection from the 98 system.
Make sure the 98 system has Microsoft Networking installed and TCP/IP
protocol.
Make sure that if dynamic ranges are used [assigned from a router or
server] that the 98 box is set [in Network SettingsTCP/IP settings] to
receive from the network.
Once the 98 system is in the local network range and you have checked the
above, reset [power down and restart after a few minutes] the network
controller/router and the computers [unless a major network], start the
modem and/or modem/router first then the computers, and see if it is found.
IF a large network, release and refresh the IP on the computers.
Try pinging the other computers; then ping a known Internet ping returning
address like Google's [after re-enabling the firewalls and other disabled
apps].

Check here for other ideas:
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/gen/se...NETWORKING.htm

Still need more, post back with where you're stuck.
Post back with the fix and results if successful for other users.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org
a Peoples' counsel
_ _
~~
"skibuz" wrote in message
news | I have dusted off my HP 8760C Pavillion and reformatted and reloaded Win
98.
| Then added Win 98SE. Prior to the reload I had it connected via Ethernet
| cable to my Linksys WRT610N network. It connected basically plug and play.
| However, the computer kept needing to be rebooted so I did the reload. Now
I
| can't get it connected to my LAN. I have tried to compare the Network
| Settings on my Dell XP desktop, but the language seems to be different
| between Win XP and Win 98SE.
|
| If someone could help me with the settings required to get this connected,
I
| would be very greatful!
| Thank you!


  #4  
Old October 18th 08, 10:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
skibuz
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Posts: 36
Default Unable to connect to Hardwired Lan with Win98 SE

MEB,
Thank you for your suggestions. I'm not sure I understand about the IP
addresses as they relate to the Firewall(s). But this is what I have. I
have a Linksys WRT610N Wireless Router. Connected to it a Vista Laptop
(wireless), Dell XP hardwired, and hopefully the Win 98SE HP hardwired (if I
can get it figured out). The Linksys has a firewall that is enabled for SPI
Firewall Protection. I also use Trend Micro Internet Security which has a
firewall enabled. But this was all working ok and my Win 98SE computer was
connected just fine to my LAN (via Ethernet Cable). I only did the Win 98
reformat and reload because the system kept needing rebooting. It is only
after the reformat that I have not been able to get my settings correct to
connect it to the LAN. My Vista and XP computers are working fine on the
Network.

On my Win98SE, the TCP/IP Properties show:
DNS Configuration Disabled
Gateway Blank
WINS Configuration Disabled
IP Address Obtain automatically
Bindings to:
Client for Microsoft Networks
File and print sharing for Microsoft Networks
Microsoft Family Logon

Advanced Tab
Allow binding to ATM Yes
Net Bios Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is checked in a gray box.

My adapter is HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter
Binding to:
3COM Diagnostic
NetBEUI
TCP/IP

Advanced tab:
APM Wake Up Enabled
Early Tx Threshold 10
Link speed/duplex Auto
Link Wake up Enable
IP not present

Belarc IP for Laptop is 192.168.1.102 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
Belarc IP for XP is 192.168.1.100 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
Belarc IP for Win 98 is 169.254.141.3 with Subnet mask 255.255.0.0

In reading Microsoft TechNet Chapter 15, it says that all systems connected
to the same local network must have the same subnet mask.

I had someone helping me on Thursday that set my Win 98SE IP to 192.168.5.1
with subnet mask 255.255.255.0 (in the TCP/IP properties). However this
didn't fix the problem and I have since removed it.

I hope this answers your questions. Thank you again for your help.
Martha



"MEB" wrote:

It may be easier to just remove the network settings on both the XP and 98
computer and start from scratch.

HOWEVER, start with the 98 computer first, before messing the XP/VISTA/other
box{es} up.
First check firewall settings on the system boxes to see if the IP range
for the local network is included and what its range is.
Disable Anti-virus and firewalls [after removing any Internet
connection/device from the network].
THEN check to see if the 98 box is in that IP range.
Make sure you are using the SAME workgroup throughout the network AND that
the network ALLOWS connection from the 98 system.
Make sure the 98 system has Microsoft Networking installed and TCP/IP
protocol.
Make sure that if dynamic ranges are used [assigned from a router or
server] that the 98 box is set [in Network SettingsTCP/IP settings] to
receive from the network.
Once the 98 system is in the local network range and you have checked the
above, reset [power down and restart after a few minutes] the network
controller/router and the computers [unless a major network], start the
modem and/or modem/router first then the computers, and see if it is found.
IF a large network, release and refresh the IP on the computers.
Try pinging the other computers; then ping a known Internet ping returning
address like Google's [after re-enabling the firewalls and other disabled
apps].

Check here for other ideas:
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/gen/se...NETWORKING.htm

Still need more, post back with where you're stuck.
Post back with the fix and results if successful for other users.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org
a Peoples' counsel
_ _
~~
"skibuz" wrote in message
news | I have dusted off my HP 8760C Pavillion and reformatted and reloaded Win
98.
| Then added Win 98SE. Prior to the reload I had it connected via Ethernet
| cable to my Linksys WRT610N network. It connected basically plug and play.
| However, the computer kept needing to be rebooted so I did the reload. Now
I
| can't get it connected to my LAN. I have tried to compare the Network
| Settings on my Dell XP desktop, but the language seems to be different
| between Win XP and Win 98SE.
|
| If someone could help me with the settings required to get this connected,
I
| would be very greatful!
| Thank you!



  #5  
Old October 18th 08, 10:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
skibuz
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 36
Default Unable to connect to Hardwired Lan with Win98 SE

MEB,
Thank you for your suggestions. I'm not sure I understand about the IP
addresses as they relate to the Firewall(s). But this is what I have. I
have a Linksys WRT610N Wireless Router. Connected to it a Vista Laptop
(wireless), Dell XP hardwired, and hopefully the Win 98SE HP hardwired (if I
can get it figured out). The Linksys has a firewall that is enabled for SPI
Firewall Protection. I also use Trend Micro Internet Security which has a
firewall enabled. But this was all working ok and my Win 98SE computer was
connected just fine to my LAN (via Ethernet Cable). I only did the Win 98
reformat and reload because the system kept needing rebooting. It is only
after the reformat that I have not been able to get my settings correct to
connect it to the LAN. My Vista and XP computers are working fine on the
Network.

On my Win98SE, the TCP/IP Properties show:
DNS Configuration Disabled
Gateway Blank
WINS Configuration Disabled
IP Address Obtain automatically
Bindings to:
Client for Microsoft Networks
File and print sharing for Microsoft Networks
Microsoft Family Logon

Advanced Tab
Allow binding to ATM Yes
Net Bios Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is checked in a gray box.

My adapter is HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter
Binding to:
3COM Diagnostic
NetBEUI
TCP/IP

Advanced tab:
APM Wake Up Enabled
Early Tx Threshold 10
Link speed/duplex Auto
Link Wake up Enable
IP not present

Belarc IP for Laptop is 192.168.1.102 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
Belarc IP for XP is 192.168.1.100 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
Belarc IP for Win 98 is 169.254.141.3 with Subnet mask 255.255.0.0

In reading Microsoft TechNet Chapter 15, it says that all systems connected
to the same local network must have the same subnet mask.

I had someone helping me on Thursday that set my Win 98SE IP to 192.168.5.1
with subnet mask 255.255.255.0 (in the TCP/IP properties). However this
didn't fix the problem and I have since removed it.

I hope this answers your questions. Thank you again for your help.
Martha



"MEB" wrote:

It may be easier to just remove the network settings on both the XP and 98
computer and start from scratch.

HOWEVER, start with the 98 computer first, before messing the XP/VISTA/other
box{es} up.
First check firewall settings on the system boxes to see if the IP range
for the local network is included and what its range is.
Disable Anti-virus and firewalls [after removing any Internet
connection/device from the network].
THEN check to see if the 98 box is in that IP range.
Make sure you are using the SAME workgroup throughout the network AND that
the network ALLOWS connection from the 98 system.
Make sure the 98 system has Microsoft Networking installed and TCP/IP
protocol.
Make sure that if dynamic ranges are used [assigned from a router or
server] that the 98 box is set [in Network SettingsTCP/IP settings] to
receive from the network.
Once the 98 system is in the local network range and you have checked the
above, reset [power down and restart after a few minutes] the network
controller/router and the computers [unless a major network], start the
modem and/or modem/router first then the computers, and see if it is found.
IF a large network, release and refresh the IP on the computers.
Try pinging the other computers; then ping a known Internet ping returning
address like Google's [after re-enabling the firewalls and other disabled
apps].

Check here for other ideas:
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/gen/se...NETWORKING.htm

Still need more, post back with where you're stuck.
Post back with the fix and results if successful for other users.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org
a Peoples' counsel
_ _
~~
"skibuz" wrote in message
news | I have dusted off my HP 8760C Pavillion and reformatted and reloaded Win
98.
| Then added Win 98SE. Prior to the reload I had it connected via Ethernet
| cable to my Linksys WRT610N network. It connected basically plug and play.
| However, the computer kept needing to be rebooted so I did the reload. Now
I
| can't get it connected to my LAN. I have tried to compare the Network
| Settings on my Dell XP desktop, but the language seems to be different
| between Win XP and Win 98SE.
|
| If someone could help me with the settings required to get this connected,
I
| would be very greatful!
| Thank you!



  #6  
Old October 18th 08, 10:25 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
skibuz
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 36
Default Unable to connect to Hardwired Lan with Win98 SE


I forgot to mention that there is no antivirus (yet) or firewall installed
on the Win 98SE computer.

Martha

"skibuz" wrote:

MEB,
Thank you for your suggestions. I'm not sure I understand about the IP
addresses as they relate to the Firewall(s). But this is what I have. I
have a Linksys WRT610N Wireless Router. Connected to it a Vista Laptop
(wireless), Dell XP hardwired, and hopefully the Win 98SE HP hardwired (if I
can get it figured out). The Linksys has a firewall that is enabled for SPI
Firewall Protection. I also use Trend Micro Internet Security which has a
firewall enabled. But this was all working ok and my Win 98SE computer was
connected just fine to my LAN (via Ethernet Cable). I only did the Win 98
reformat and reload because the system kept needing rebooting. It is only
after the reformat that I have not been able to get my settings correct to
connect it to the LAN. My Vista and XP computers are working fine on the
Network.

On my Win98SE, the TCP/IP Properties show:
DNS Configuration Disabled
Gateway Blank
WINS Configuration Disabled
IP Address Obtain automatically
Bindings to:
Client for Microsoft Networks
File and print sharing for Microsoft Networks
Microsoft Family Logon

Advanced Tab
Allow binding to ATM Yes
Net Bios Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is checked in a gray box.

My adapter is HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter
Binding to:
3COM Diagnostic
NetBEUI
TCP/IP

Advanced tab:
APM Wake Up Enabled
Early Tx Threshold 10
Link speed/duplex Auto
Link Wake up Enable
IP not present

Belarc IP for Laptop is 192.168.1.102 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
Belarc IP for XP is 192.168.1.100 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
Belarc IP for Win 98 is 169.254.141.3 with Subnet mask 255.255.0.0

In reading Microsoft TechNet Chapter 15, it says that all systems connected
to the same local network must have the same subnet mask.

I had someone helping me on Thursday that set my Win 98SE IP to 192.168.5.1
with subnet mask 255.255.255.0 (in the TCP/IP properties). However this
didn't fix the problem and I have since removed it.

I hope this answers your questions. Thank you again for your help.
Martha



"MEB" wrote:

It may be easier to just remove the network settings on both the XP and 98
computer and start from scratch.

HOWEVER, start with the 98 computer first, before messing the XP/VISTA/other
box{es} up.
First check firewall settings on the system boxes to see if the IP range
for the local network is included and what its range is.
Disable Anti-virus and firewalls [after removing any Internet
connection/device from the network].
THEN check to see if the 98 box is in that IP range.
Make sure you are using the SAME workgroup throughout the network AND that
the network ALLOWS connection from the 98 system.
Make sure the 98 system has Microsoft Networking installed and TCP/IP
protocol.
Make sure that if dynamic ranges are used [assigned from a router or
server] that the 98 box is set [in Network SettingsTCP/IP settings] to
receive from the network.
Once the 98 system is in the local network range and you have checked the
above, reset [power down and restart after a few minutes] the network
controller/router and the computers [unless a major network], start the
modem and/or modem/router first then the computers, and see if it is found.
IF a large network, release and refresh the IP on the computers.
Try pinging the other computers; then ping a known Internet ping returning
address like Google's [after re-enabling the firewalls and other disabled
apps].

Check here for other ideas:
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/gen/se...NETWORKING.htm

Still need more, post back with where you're stuck.
Post back with the fix and results if successful for other users.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org
a Peoples' counsel
_ _
~~
"skibuz" wrote in message
news | I have dusted off my HP 8760C Pavillion and reformatted and reloaded Win
98.
| Then added Win 98SE. Prior to the reload I had it connected via Ethernet
| cable to my Linksys WRT610N network. It connected basically plug and play.
| However, the computer kept needing to be rebooted so I did the reload. Now
I
| can't get it connected to my LAN. I have tried to compare the Network
| Settings on my Dell XP desktop, but the language seems to be different
| between Win XP and Win 98SE.
|
| If someone could help me with the settings required to get this connected,
I
| would be very greatful!
| Thank you!



  #7  
Old October 18th 08, 10:25 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
skibuz
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 36
Default Unable to connect to Hardwired Lan with Win98 SE


I forgot to mention that there is no antivirus (yet) or firewall installed
on the Win 98SE computer.

Martha

"skibuz" wrote:

MEB,
Thank you for your suggestions. I'm not sure I understand about the IP
addresses as they relate to the Firewall(s). But this is what I have. I
have a Linksys WRT610N Wireless Router. Connected to it a Vista Laptop
(wireless), Dell XP hardwired, and hopefully the Win 98SE HP hardwired (if I
can get it figured out). The Linksys has a firewall that is enabled for SPI
Firewall Protection. I also use Trend Micro Internet Security which has a
firewall enabled. But this was all working ok and my Win 98SE computer was
connected just fine to my LAN (via Ethernet Cable). I only did the Win 98
reformat and reload because the system kept needing rebooting. It is only
after the reformat that I have not been able to get my settings correct to
connect it to the LAN. My Vista and XP computers are working fine on the
Network.

On my Win98SE, the TCP/IP Properties show:
DNS Configuration Disabled
Gateway Blank
WINS Configuration Disabled
IP Address Obtain automatically
Bindings to:
Client for Microsoft Networks
File and print sharing for Microsoft Networks
Microsoft Family Logon

Advanced Tab
Allow binding to ATM Yes
Net Bios Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is checked in a gray box.

My adapter is HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter
Binding to:
3COM Diagnostic
NetBEUI
TCP/IP

Advanced tab:
APM Wake Up Enabled
Early Tx Threshold 10
Link speed/duplex Auto
Link Wake up Enable
IP not present

Belarc IP for Laptop is 192.168.1.102 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
Belarc IP for XP is 192.168.1.100 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
Belarc IP for Win 98 is 169.254.141.3 with Subnet mask 255.255.0.0

In reading Microsoft TechNet Chapter 15, it says that all systems connected
to the same local network must have the same subnet mask.

I had someone helping me on Thursday that set my Win 98SE IP to 192.168.5.1
with subnet mask 255.255.255.0 (in the TCP/IP properties). However this
didn't fix the problem and I have since removed it.

I hope this answers your questions. Thank you again for your help.
Martha



"MEB" wrote:

It may be easier to just remove the network settings on both the XP and 98
computer and start from scratch.

HOWEVER, start with the 98 computer first, before messing the XP/VISTA/other
box{es} up.
First check firewall settings on the system boxes to see if the IP range
for the local network is included and what its range is.
Disable Anti-virus and firewalls [after removing any Internet
connection/device from the network].
THEN check to see if the 98 box is in that IP range.
Make sure you are using the SAME workgroup throughout the network AND that
the network ALLOWS connection from the 98 system.
Make sure the 98 system has Microsoft Networking installed and TCP/IP
protocol.
Make sure that if dynamic ranges are used [assigned from a router or
server] that the 98 box is set [in Network SettingsTCP/IP settings] to
receive from the network.
Once the 98 system is in the local network range and you have checked the
above, reset [power down and restart after a few minutes] the network
controller/router and the computers [unless a major network], start the
modem and/or modem/router first then the computers, and see if it is found.
IF a large network, release and refresh the IP on the computers.
Try pinging the other computers; then ping a known Internet ping returning
address like Google's [after re-enabling the firewalls and other disabled
apps].

Check here for other ideas:
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/gen/se...NETWORKING.htm

Still need more, post back with where you're stuck.
Post back with the fix and results if successful for other users.

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org
a Peoples' counsel
_ _
~~
"skibuz" wrote in message
news | I have dusted off my HP 8760C Pavillion and reformatted and reloaded Win
98.
| Then added Win 98SE. Prior to the reload I had it connected via Ethernet
| cable to my Linksys WRT610N network. It connected basically plug and play.
| However, the computer kept needing to be rebooted so I did the reload. Now
I
| can't get it connected to my LAN. I have tried to compare the Network
| Settings on my Dell XP desktop, but the language seems to be different
| between Win XP and Win 98SE.
|
| If someone could help me with the settings required to get this connected,
I
| would be very greatful!
| Thank you!



  #8  
Old October 18th 08, 10:59 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
MEB[_2_]
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 1,626
Default Unable to connect to Hardwired Lan with Win98 SE


"skibuz" wrote in message
...
| MEB,
| Thank you for your suggestions. I'm not sure I understand about the IP
| addresses as they relate to the Firewall(s). But this is what I have. I
| have a Linksys WRT610N Wireless Router. Connected to it a Vista Laptop
| (wireless), Dell XP hardwired, and hopefully the Win 98SE HP hardwired (if
I
| can get it figured out). The Linksys has a firewall that is enabled for
SPI
| Firewall Protection. I also use Trend Micro Internet Security which has a
| firewall enabled. But this was all working ok and my Win 98SE computer
was
| connected just fine to my LAN (via Ethernet Cable). I only did the Win 98
| reformat and reload because the system kept needing rebooting. It is only
| after the reformat that I have not been able to get my settings correct to
| connect it to the LAN. My Vista and XP computers are working fine on the
| Network.
|
| On my Win98SE, the TCP/IP Properties show:
| DNS Configuration Disabled
| Gateway Blank
| WINS Configuration Disabled
| IP Address Obtain automatically
| Bindings to:
| Client for Microsoft Networks
| File and print sharing for Microsoft Networks
| Microsoft Family Logon
|
| Advanced Tab
| Allow binding to ATM Yes
| Net Bios Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is checked in a gray box.
|
| My adapter is HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter
| Binding to:
| 3COM Diagnostic
| NetBEUI
| TCP/IP
|
| Advanced tab:
| APM Wake Up Enabled
| Early Tx Threshold 10
| Link speed/duplex Auto
| Link Wake up Enable
| IP not present
|
| Belarc IP for Laptop is 192.168.1.102 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
| Belarc IP for XP is 192.168.1.100 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
| Belarc IP for Win 98 is 169.254.141.3 with Subnet mask 255.255.0.0

Okay. The IP for Win98 is out of range for your network.
It should be somewhere in the 192.168.1.* range if its hardwired, try making
it 192.168.1.106 or 103 or 10*, anything in the range {not already used}.
Do this by going back into NetworkHP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet
Adapter - TCP/IP IP Address Obtain automatically, and change this to the
manual IP address {192.168.1.10* (something)} and subnet 255.255.255.0.
See if this works.

|
| In reading Microsoft TechNet Chapter 15, it says that all systems
connected
| to the same local network must have the same subnet mask.
|
| I had someone helping me on Thursday that set my Win 98SE IP to
192.168.5.1
| with subnet mask 255.255.255.0 (in the TCP/IP properties). However this
| didn't fix the problem and I have since removed it.
|
| I hope this answers your questions. Thank you again for your help.
| Martha
|


--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org
a Peoples' counsel
_ _
~~

|
|
| "MEB" wrote:
|
| It may be easier to just remove the network settings on both the XP and
98
| computer and start from scratch.
|
| HOWEVER, start with the 98 computer first, before messing the
XP/VISTA/other
| box{es} up.
| First check firewall settings on the system boxes to see if the IP
range
| for the local network is included and what its range is.
| Disable Anti-virus and firewalls [after removing any Internet
| connection/device from the network].
| THEN check to see if the 98 box is in that IP range.
| Make sure you are using the SAME workgroup throughout the network AND
that
| the network ALLOWS connection from the 98 system.
| Make sure the 98 system has Microsoft Networking installed and TCP/IP
| protocol.
| Make sure that if dynamic ranges are used [assigned from a router or
| server] that the 98 box is set [in Network SettingsTCP/IP settings] to
| receive from the network.
| Once the 98 system is in the local network range and you have checked
the
| above, reset [power down and restart after a few minutes] the network
| controller/router and the computers [unless a major network], start the
| modem and/or modem/router first then the computers, and see if it is
found.
| IF a large network, release and refresh the IP on the computers.
| Try pinging the other computers; then ping a known Internet ping
returning
| address like Google's [after re-enabling the firewalls and other
disabled
| apps].
|
| Check here for other ideas:
| http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/gen/se...NETWORKING.htm
|
| Still need more, post back with where you're stuck.
| Post back with the fix and results if successful for other users.
|
| --
| MEB
| http://peoplescounsel.org
| a Peoples' counsel
| _ _
| ~~
| "skibuz" wrote in message
| news | | I have dusted off my HP 8760C Pavillion and reformatted and reloaded
Win
| 98.
| | Then added Win 98SE. Prior to the reload I had it connected via
Ethernet
| | cable to my Linksys WRT610N network. It connected basically plug and
play.
| | However, the computer kept needing to be rebooted so I did the reload.
Now
| I
| | can't get it connected to my LAN. I have tried to compare the Network
| | Settings on my Dell XP desktop, but the language seems to be different
| | between Win XP and Win 98SE.
| |
| | If someone could help me with the settings required to get this
connected,
| I
| | would be very greatful!
| | Thank you!
|
|
|



  #9  
Old October 18th 08, 10:59 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
MEB[_2_]
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 1,626
Default Unable to connect to Hardwired Lan with Win98 SE


"skibuz" wrote in message
...
| MEB,
| Thank you for your suggestions. I'm not sure I understand about the IP
| addresses as they relate to the Firewall(s). But this is what I have. I
| have a Linksys WRT610N Wireless Router. Connected to it a Vista Laptop
| (wireless), Dell XP hardwired, and hopefully the Win 98SE HP hardwired (if
I
| can get it figured out). The Linksys has a firewall that is enabled for
SPI
| Firewall Protection. I also use Trend Micro Internet Security which has a
| firewall enabled. But this was all working ok and my Win 98SE computer
was
| connected just fine to my LAN (via Ethernet Cable). I only did the Win 98
| reformat and reload because the system kept needing rebooting. It is only
| after the reformat that I have not been able to get my settings correct to
| connect it to the LAN. My Vista and XP computers are working fine on the
| Network.
|
| On my Win98SE, the TCP/IP Properties show:
| DNS Configuration Disabled
| Gateway Blank
| WINS Configuration Disabled
| IP Address Obtain automatically
| Bindings to:
| Client for Microsoft Networks
| File and print sharing for Microsoft Networks
| Microsoft Family Logon
|
| Advanced Tab
| Allow binding to ATM Yes
| Net Bios Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is checked in a gray box.
|
| My adapter is HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter
| Binding to:
| 3COM Diagnostic
| NetBEUI
| TCP/IP
|
| Advanced tab:
| APM Wake Up Enabled
| Early Tx Threshold 10
| Link speed/duplex Auto
| Link Wake up Enable
| IP not present
|
| Belarc IP for Laptop is 192.168.1.102 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
| Belarc IP for XP is 192.168.1.100 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
| Belarc IP for Win 98 is 169.254.141.3 with Subnet mask 255.255.0.0

Okay. The IP for Win98 is out of range for your network.
It should be somewhere in the 192.168.1.* range if its hardwired, try making
it 192.168.1.106 or 103 or 10*, anything in the range {not already used}.
Do this by going back into NetworkHP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet
Adapter - TCP/IP IP Address Obtain automatically, and change this to the
manual IP address {192.168.1.10* (something)} and subnet 255.255.255.0.
See if this works.

|
| In reading Microsoft TechNet Chapter 15, it says that all systems
connected
| to the same local network must have the same subnet mask.
|
| I had someone helping me on Thursday that set my Win 98SE IP to
192.168.5.1
| with subnet mask 255.255.255.0 (in the TCP/IP properties). However this
| didn't fix the problem and I have since removed it.
|
| I hope this answers your questions. Thank you again for your help.
| Martha
|


--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org
a Peoples' counsel
_ _
~~

|
|
| "MEB" wrote:
|
| It may be easier to just remove the network settings on both the XP and
98
| computer and start from scratch.
|
| HOWEVER, start with the 98 computer first, before messing the
XP/VISTA/other
| box{es} up.
| First check firewall settings on the system boxes to see if the IP
range
| for the local network is included and what its range is.
| Disable Anti-virus and firewalls [after removing any Internet
| connection/device from the network].
| THEN check to see if the 98 box is in that IP range.
| Make sure you are using the SAME workgroup throughout the network AND
that
| the network ALLOWS connection from the 98 system.
| Make sure the 98 system has Microsoft Networking installed and TCP/IP
| protocol.
| Make sure that if dynamic ranges are used [assigned from a router or
| server] that the 98 box is set [in Network SettingsTCP/IP settings] to
| receive from the network.
| Once the 98 system is in the local network range and you have checked
the
| above, reset [power down and restart after a few minutes] the network
| controller/router and the computers [unless a major network], start the
| modem and/or modem/router first then the computers, and see if it is
found.
| IF a large network, release and refresh the IP on the computers.
| Try pinging the other computers; then ping a known Internet ping
returning
| address like Google's [after re-enabling the firewalls and other
disabled
| apps].
|
| Check here for other ideas:
| http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/gen/se...NETWORKING.htm
|
| Still need more, post back with where you're stuck.
| Post back with the fix and results if successful for other users.
|
| --
| MEB
| http://peoplescounsel.org
| a Peoples' counsel
| _ _
| ~~
| "skibuz" wrote in message
| news | | I have dusted off my HP 8760C Pavillion and reformatted and reloaded
Win
| 98.
| | Then added Win 98SE. Prior to the reload I had it connected via
Ethernet
| | cable to my Linksys WRT610N network. It connected basically plug and
play.
| | However, the computer kept needing to be rebooted so I did the reload.
Now
| I
| | can't get it connected to my LAN. I have tried to compare the Network
| | Settings on my Dell XP desktop, but the language seems to be different
| | between Win XP and Win 98SE.
| |
| | If someone could help me with the settings required to get this
connected,
| I
| | would be very greatful!
| | Thank you!
|
|
|



  #10  
Old October 18th 08, 11:29 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
skibuz
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 36
Default Unable to connect to Hardwired Lan with Win98 SE

I changed the IP to 192.168.1.105 and the subnet mask to 255.255.255.0 and it
still did not connect to the internet. I tried both Firefox and Internet
Explorer.

Could some of the other settings need to be changed now that the IP/subnet
mask have been changed.

Under properties for the adapter HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet
Adapter, Advanced tab, it shows Network Address Not present. Is that what it
should be?

Thanks!
Martha

"MEB" wrote:


"skibuz" wrote in message
...
| MEB,
| Thank you for your suggestions. I'm not sure I understand about the IP
| addresses as they relate to the Firewall(s). But this is what I have. I
| have a Linksys WRT610N Wireless Router. Connected to it a Vista Laptop
| (wireless), Dell XP hardwired, and hopefully the Win 98SE HP hardwired (if
I
| can get it figured out). The Linksys has a firewall that is enabled for
SPI
| Firewall Protection. I also use Trend Micro Internet Security which has a
| firewall enabled. But this was all working ok and my Win 98SE computer
was
| connected just fine to my LAN (via Ethernet Cable). I only did the Win 98
| reformat and reload because the system kept needing rebooting. It is only
| after the reformat that I have not been able to get my settings correct to
| connect it to the LAN. My Vista and XP computers are working fine on the
| Network.
|
| On my Win98SE, the TCP/IP Properties show:
| DNS Configuration Disabled
| Gateway Blank
| WINS Configuration Disabled
| IP Address Obtain automatically
| Bindings to:
| Client for Microsoft Networks
| File and print sharing for Microsoft Networks
| Microsoft Family Logon
|
| Advanced Tab
| Allow binding to ATM Yes
| Net Bios Enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP is checked in a gray box.
|
| My adapter is HP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Adapter
| Binding to:
| 3COM Diagnostic
| NetBEUI
| TCP/IP
|
| Advanced tab:
| APM Wake Up Enabled
| Early Tx Threshold 10
| Link speed/duplex Auto
| Link Wake up Enable
| IP not present
|
| Belarc IP for Laptop is 192.168.1.102 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
| Belarc IP for XP is 192.168.1.100 Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
| Belarc IP for Win 98 is 169.254.141.3 with Subnet mask 255.255.0.0

Okay. The IP for Win98 is out of range for your network.
It should be somewhere in the 192.168.1.* range if its hardwired, try making
it 192.168.1.106 or 103 or 10*, anything in the range {not already used}.
Do this by going back into NetworkHP EN1207 TX PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet
Adapter - TCP/IP IP Address Obtain automatically, and change this to the
manual IP address {192.168.1.10* (something)} and subnet 255.255.255.0.
See if this works.

|
| In reading Microsoft TechNet Chapter 15, it says that all systems
connected
| to the same local network must have the same subnet mask.
|
| I had someone helping me on Thursday that set my Win 98SE IP to
192.168.5.1
| with subnet mask 255.255.255.0 (in the TCP/IP properties). However this
| didn't fix the problem and I have since removed it.
|
| I hope this answers your questions. Thank you again for your help.
| Martha
|


--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org
a Peoples' counsel
_ _
~~

|
|
| "MEB" wrote:
|
| It may be easier to just remove the network settings on both the XP and
98
| computer and start from scratch.
|
| HOWEVER, start with the 98 computer first, before messing the
XP/VISTA/other
| box{es} up.
| First check firewall settings on the system boxes to see if the IP
range
| for the local network is included and what its range is.
| Disable Anti-virus and firewalls [after removing any Internet
| connection/device from the network].
| THEN check to see if the 98 box is in that IP range.
| Make sure you are using the SAME workgroup throughout the network AND
that
| the network ALLOWS connection from the 98 system.
| Make sure the 98 system has Microsoft Networking installed and TCP/IP
| protocol.
| Make sure that if dynamic ranges are used [assigned from a router or
| server] that the 98 box is set [in Network SettingsTCP/IP settings] to
| receive from the network.
| Once the 98 system is in the local network range and you have checked
the
| above, reset [power down and restart after a few minutes] the network
| controller/router and the computers [unless a major network], start the
| modem and/or modem/router first then the computers, and see if it is
found.
| IF a large network, release and refresh the IP on the computers.
| Try pinging the other computers; then ping a known Internet ping
returning
| address like Google's [after re-enabling the firewalls and other
disabled
| apps].
|
| Check here for other ideas:
| http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/gen/se...NETWORKING.htm
|
| Still need more, post back with where you're stuck.
| Post back with the fix and results if successful for other users.
|
| --
| MEB
| http://peoplescounsel.org
| a Peoples' counsel
| _ _
| ~~
| "skibuz" wrote in message
| news | | I have dusted off my HP 8760C Pavillion and reformatted and reloaded
Win
| 98.
| | Then added Win 98SE. Prior to the reload I had it connected via
Ethernet
| | cable to my Linksys WRT610N network. It connected basically plug and
play.
| | However, the computer kept needing to be rebooted so I did the reload.
Now
| I
| | can't get it connected to my LAN. I have tried to compare the Network
| | Settings on my Dell XP desktop, but the language seems to be different
| | between Win XP and Win 98SE.
| |
| | If someone could help me with the settings required to get this
connected,
| I
| | would be very greatful!
| | Thank you!
|
|
|




 




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