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Not enough memory, it says...
Mike M wrote:
wrote: And now, next sign of progress: I found it in the tray, and it had 3 green bars! I opened it to see details, and it reported 81%, 81%, and 92% free. What's my next step, Mike? Now you've uninstalled the modem and let Win Me redetect its drivers (you have done that I hope) and uninstalled and reinstalled DUN (you have done that I hope) then the next step is to try and use the modem. Before that though what does Dev.Man have to say about the modem? Mike, I'll go back and recheck all those, but I believe that I have removed all trace of the Conexant modem. All that Dev.Man should show is the onboard 56k generic modem drivers. I believe that I have uninstalled and re-installed DUN. My PC came with Conexant Soft56K modem on the MB, and it works fine in the XP OS. I wanted to use it from Me with the 9X/Me driver I downloaded but installing that downloaded driver is what set my machine into its present mode. While I go over to get more info, are we now convinced that the 64K stacks are in good shape? Is there any way to check that part out without involving the suspicious Conexant software? -- William B. Lurie |
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Not enough memory, it says...
If you've done all I suggested other than reinstall the problematic modem
I would have thought that that was what you should be doing now. Make sure that you are using Win Me drivers and not those for another operating system. -- Mike Maltby wrote: Mike, I'll go back and recheck all those, but I believe that I have removed all trace of the Conexant modem. All that Dev.Man should show is the onboard 56k generic modem drivers. I believe that I have uninstalled and re-installed DUN. My PC came with Conexant Soft56K modem on the MB, and it works fine in the XP OS. I wanted to use it from Me with the 9X/Me driver I downloaded but installing that downloaded driver is what set my machine into its present mode. While I go over to get more info, are we now convinced that the 64K stacks are in good shape? Is there any way to check that part out without involving the suspicious Conexant software? |
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Not enough memory, it says...
Mike M wrote:
If you've done all I suggested other than reinstall the problematic modem I would have thought that that was what you should be doing now. Make sure that you are using Win Me drivers and not those for another operating system. Hold on. I went back and verified that all trace of the problematic driver is gone. All that shows is the on-board generic 56K modem, But I'm having trouble reinstalling DUN. I can find it, check it, but it doesn't load when I led it to BASE2.CAB ... I don't think I'm as concerned about the modem or DUN as I am about just having a clean working system back to where I was before I tried installing the modem drivers. What about the error message about not enough memory and the 64K stacks? |
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Not enough memory, it says...
Mike M wrote:
It's not BASE2.CAB that is important but instead the folder containing this and the other Win Me cab files. Remove DUN, reboot and then try installing it again. On completion reboot again, set a system restore checkpoint (you have installed the 290700 hotfix I hope) and then try installing the new modem. Mike, I hate to disagree with the person who knows the system, but I'd rather have a system that works and will run my applications, than have the modem working. I've been hoping you would get me back to that point before I try the modem again. Another point: I have never used restore points or checkpoints, and I have had no opportunity to install that or any other hotfix. If you recall, I installed 98, then the upgrade to Win Me, and then started installing a few applications. With no online connection working in that OS, I'm at a loss as to how to install updates or hotfixes. I've tried to walk step by step but installing the modem driver for the onboard chipset got me into the 'insufficient memory' message. I have another alternative which might be simpler for us both. I have an exact clone of the Me system, as it was before it went bad. I can put this 'bad' system aside and work with the clone. I can even clone the clone so that if *it* goes bad, I'll still have a status quo ante copy. I'll ask your advice on pursuing that path, and also if there might be a way that I can obtain hotfixes or updates for Me by downloading them using XP, saving in a temporary file, and then installing them off line. You've put the bug in my head, that my Me can't go online because it needs updating, and can't be updated because it can't go online. -- William B. Lurie |
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Mike, I hate to disagree with the person who knows the system, but I'd
rather have a system that works and will run my applications, than have the modem working. That's quite amazing and I can't help feel that I've probably been wasting my time. Perhaps I ought to remind you that it was YOU that started this thread reporting problems and asking how to resolve them! I'm sorry that you have never used system restore (SR) and this does lead me to wonder why you upgraded to Win Me if you weren't interested in one of its major features, another being the related system file protection (SFP), with both SFP and SR being functions of Win Me's state manager. No doubt you had your reasons and I guess those were important to yourself but for a system that isn't going to be updated or used to connect to the net you might as well have stuck with Win 98. You asked in your very first post: Please tell me how I can run Task Manager in ME so that I can see what's happening in RAM. and I responded that you couldn't. If you weren't really interested in installing your modem why didn't you quit then? As to where you go from here I think I should leave that to you to decide as I feel that you will always do what you want regardless of what I have to say. I know I would if I were in your position. vbg Cheers and the best of luck, -- Mike Maltby wrote: Mike, I hate to disagree with the person who knows the system, but I'd rather have a system that works and will run my applications, than have the modem working. I've been hoping you would get me back to that point before I try the modem again. Another point: I have never used restore points or checkpoints, and I have had no opportunity to install that or any other hotfix. If you recall, I installed 98, then the upgrade to Win Me, and then started installing a few applications. With no online connection working in that OS, I'm at a loss as to how to install updates or hotfixes. I've tried to walk step by step but installing the modem driver for the onboard chipset got me into the 'insufficient memory' message. I have another alternative which might be simpler for us both. I have an exact clone of the Me system, as it was before it went bad. I can put this 'bad' system aside and work with the clone. I can even clone the clone so that if *it* goes bad, I'll still have a status quo ante copy. I'll ask your advice on pursuing that path, and also if there might be a way that I can obtain hotfixes or updates for Me by downloading them using XP, saving in a temporary file, and then installing them off line. You've put the bug in my head, that my Me can't go online because it needs updating, and can't be updated because it can't go online. |
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Not enough memory, it says...
Mike M wrote:
Mike, I hate to disagree with the person who knows the system, but I'd rather have a system that works and will run my applications, than have the modem working. That's quite amazing and I can't help feel that I've probably been wasting my time. Perhaps I ought to remind you that it was YOU that started this thread reporting problems and asking how to resolve them! I'm sorry that you have never used system restore (SR) and this does lead me to wonder why you upgraded to Win Me if you weren't interested in one of its major features, another being the related system file protection (SFP), with both SFP and SR being functions of Win Me's state manager. No doubt you had your reasons and I guess those were important to yourself but for a system that isn't going to be updated or used to connect to the net you might as well have stuck with Win 98. You asked in your very first post: Please tell me how I can run Task Manager in ME so that I can see what's happening in RAM. and I responded that you couldn't. If you weren't really interested in installing your modem why didn't you quit then? As to where you go from here I think I should leave that to you to decide as I feel that you will always do what you want regardless of what I have to say. I know I would if I were in your position. vbg Cheers and the best of luck, Mike, you recall that I have been using XP for 3+ years and the only reason I resuscitated an older OS was that I have certain mathematical DOS programs which will not run on XP. Heaven knows I tried enough work-arounds. The reason for going to ME was that I like the appearance of ME, and it's newer and presumably better. You pointed out ways that it's better but those don't appeal to me. My method of program security involves cloning my Master Drive as often as I am so disposed. In eras gone by, I did backup on 5" floppies, then on various kinds of mag tape, but now I like cloned hard drives. I gather that I haven't been able to procure the data to help you to unlock the mystery of my error message. You've led me to new and interesting places, where other men but not this one had gone before. and that's always nice, but my basic problem still is that I need to get rid of the error message. If you'd rather not proceed further on that task, I'll thank you for your efforts, and prompt follow-up, and start back at a clone (full restore point) that works, and proceed one step at a time......carefully. I do appreciate your help. -- William B. Lurie |
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Not enough memory, it says...
You asked earlier about reinstalling Win Me over itself. Since you
haven't felt the need to install any updates then you have nothing to lose by doing this. Damage is done only if the user has updated their system such as having installed IE6 or WMP9 and special procedures need to be taken to remove these components before reinstalling the OS. The same also applies to XP but the components involved differ somewhat. Boot Win Me and then run setup.exe from the folder containing BASE2.CAB. I am intrigued at your saying that your DOS program won't work in XP whereas it does in Win Me since Win Me like XP doesn't strictly run DOS as such but am guessing that it is closer than XP's cmd.exe One solution you may wish to consider if running XP Pro rather than Home is to use VPC (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/vir.../default.mspx), now free, and to run Win Me or even DOS 6.22 or whatever in a virtual machine on XP. -- Mike Maltby wrote: Mike M wrote: Mike, I hate to disagree with the person who knows the system, but I'd rather have a system that works and will run my applications, than have the modem working. That's quite amazing and I can't help feel that I've probably been wasting my time. Perhaps I ought to remind you that it was YOU that started this thread reporting problems and asking how to resolve them! I'm sorry that you have never used system restore (SR) and this does lead me to wonder why you upgraded to Win Me if you weren't interested in one of its major features, another being the related system file protection (SFP), with both SFP and SR being functions of Win Me's state manager. No doubt you had your reasons and I guess those were important to yourself but for a system that isn't going to be updated or used to connect to the net you might as well have stuck with Win 98. You asked in your very first post: Please tell me how I can run Task Manager in ME so that I can see what's happening in RAM. and I responded that you couldn't. If you weren't really interested in installing your modem why didn't you quit then? As to where you go from here I think I should leave that to you to decide as I feel that you will always do what you want regardless of what I have to say. I know I would if I were in your position. vbg Cheers and the best of luck, Mike, you recall that I have been using XP for 3+ years and the only reason I resuscitated an older OS was that I have certain mathematical DOS programs which will not run on XP. Heaven knows I tried enough work-arounds. The reason for going to ME was that I like the appearance of ME, and it's newer and presumably better. You pointed out ways that it's better but those don't appeal to me. My method of program security involves cloning my Master Drive as often as I am so disposed. In eras gone by, I did backup on 5" floppies, then on various kinds of mag tape, but now I like cloned hard drives. I gather that I haven't been able to procure the data to help you to unlock the mystery of my error message. You've led me to new and interesting places, where other men but not this one had gone before. and that's always nice, but my basic problem still is that I need to get rid of the error message. If you'd rather not proceed further on that task, I'll thank you for your efforts, and prompt follow-up, and start back at a clone (full restore point) that works, and proceed one step at a time......carefully. I do appreciate your help. |
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But I have plenty (1GB) and 3 GB empty on hard drive. This is a fairly new installation and I just upgraded to video so that I could use high resolution. When I went to setup the modem, it wouldn't let me...... not enough memory, close some programs. But I have practically nothing running. Please tell me how I can run Task Manager in ME so that I can see what's happening in RAM. Thanks. What specific applications are producing these error messages? Does the message read "not enough memory" or does it read "not enough free memory" You have 1 gb of RAM. With that amount of RAM you *must* have the following entry in the [vcache] section of the system.ini file in order to avoid false "out of memory" errors: MaxFileCache=512000 Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada -- Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006) On-Line Help Computer Service http://onlinehelp.bc.ca Syberfix Remote Computer Repair "Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference has never been in bed with a mosquito." |
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Not enough memory, it says...
Ron Martell wrote:
wrote: But I have plenty (1GB) and 3 GB empty on hard drive. This is a fairly new installation and I just upgraded to video so that I could use high resolution. When I went to setup the modem, it wouldn't let me...... not enough memory, close some programs. But I have practically nothing running. Please tell me how I can run Task Manager in ME so that I can see what's happening in RAM. Thanks. What specific applications are producing these error messages? Does the message read "not enough memory" or does it read "not enough free memory" You have 1 gb of RAM. With that amount of RAM you *must* have the following entry in the [vcache] section of the system.ini file in order to avoid false "out of memory" errors: MaxFileCache=512000 Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada Thank you, Ron. I've put the ME version of my software (on its own hard drive) aside for now, since no solution appeared after many efforts by me and especially Mike Maltby. I have backed off to the WIN 98, where problems with DOS-based programs are far less severe. I can't answer you from here, and I'm going to stick with ole reliable WIN 98 for now, but I've bookmarked this whole thread and will get back to you in the future. Thanks again. -- William B. Lurie |
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