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Friend with AMD Atheon high performance 2.2GHz CPU and problems... Zee "Bill Leary" wrote in message = ... "Lester Stiefel" wrote in message ... You've struck paydirt. Older processors are not compatible with that fix. Only Athlon 700mhz up and newer Intel processors are compatible. Its not the OS, Its the chip. =20 Where did you come by this information, please? =20 It looks like I'll have to have my son disable KB891711, since he's = got a 400MHz AMD in his system and *is* having problems. The two machines here = have 1700 and 1900 AMDs and are having no problems. =20 - Bill =20 |
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"Kevin Moore" wrote in message ... Ken, have you furnished this info to the ScanDefrag Team ? See the program Readme and... ScanDefrag program Help Email ScanDefrag Team -- Ken Bland wrote: The collective log of ScanDefrag for the period of time during which I had difficulty shows this (edited to show failing section): -------------------- snip ---------------------------- No, Kevin, I haven't. Didn't occur to me actually. If you think this information might be helpful, I will. Thanx, Ken Bland |
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"Bill Leary" wrote in message ... "Justin Thyme" wrote in message ... "Bill Leary" wrote in message ... By "Scandefrag" do you mean the disk defragmenter from the Tools tab off the Properties of a drive? No, Bill, I am referring to the ScanDefrag program Yes, I saw the later messages and figured that out. Sorry to have wasted your time on that. But... written and maintained by three or four faithful programmers here who realized that some (most?) of us had difficulty when a certain failure caused an automatic scandisk to start with power-on. Scandisk could be run in Safe Mode all right, but it was a nuisance, and ScanDefrag solved the problem without requiring Safe Mode. I believe you can read about and download ScanDefrag he http://www.blueorbsoft.com/scandefrag/ ... is quite interesting. Thanks for the pointer. - Bill You're welcome, Bill. You certainly didn't waste my time and I'm always pleased to point someone to ScanDefrag. Ken Bland |
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Kevin, The problem must be the patch. I also couldn't run ScanDefrag with KB891711 enabled. Disabled it and no more problems. Zee "Kevin Moore" wrote in message = ... Ken, have you furnished this info to the ScanDefrag Team ? See the program Readme and... =20 ScanDefrag program Help Email ScanDefrag Team =20 --=20 Ken Bland wrote: The collective log of ScanDefrag for the period of time during which I had difficulty shows this (edited to show failing section): -------------------- snip ---------------------------- =20 =20 |
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In article , Lester Stiefel says...
You've struck paydirt. Older processors are not compatible with that fix. Only Athlon 700mhz up and newer Intel processors are compatible. Its not the OS, Its the chip. What is the division point on the chips? I have two HP Pavilion 6745C computers, purchased on the same day, at the same place. Computer "Megumi": ------------------ OS Name Microsoft Windows Version 4.90.3000 Build 3000 OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation System Name MEGUMI System Manufacturer 00101880 6745C System Model 15144200050321 System Type X86-based PC Processor Intel(r) Celeron(tm) processor GenuineIntel ~700 Mhz BIOS Version EPP revision 9.00 Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS System Directory C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM Boot Device \\Device\Harddisk0 Locale United States User Name ******** Time Zone Pacific Standard Time Total Physical Memory 190.45 MB Available Physical Memory 4.10 MB Total Virtual Memory 734.95 MB Available Virtual Memory 388.79 MB Page File Space 544.50 MB Page File D:\WIN386.SWP ----------------- Computer "Naomi": ----------------- OS Name Microsoft Windows Version 4.90.3000 Build 3000 OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation System Name NAOMI System Manufacturer 00101880 6745C System Model 15144200050321 System Type X86-based PC Processor Intel(r) Celeron(tm) processor GenuineIntel ~700 Mhz BIOS Version EPP revision 9.00 Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS System Directory C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM Boot Device \\Device\Harddisk0 Locale United States User Name ******** Time Zone Pacific Standard Time Total Physical Memory 190.45 MB Available Physical Memory 2.10 MB Total Virtual Memory 735.63 MB Available Virtual Memory 407.82 MB Page File Space 545.19 MB Page File D:\WIN386.SWP The serial numbers are different by nine, "Megumi" having the lower S/N. Kb891711 runs fine on "Naomi", but crashes applications on "Megumi". -- Norman ~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta ~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain ~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint |
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"Kevin Moore" wrote in message ... Ken, have you checked the ScanDefrag logs to see what has changed and/or notified the programs authors ?? I have followed your suggestion and will advise here if I hear anything from the ScanDefrag group. Thanx, Ken Bland |
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Mike M had this to say: My reply is at the bottom of your sent message: At this time, it appears the issue is common to systems running AMD processors. Thanks, that's something I didn't know. My Win Me boxes are an old Intel PII 450 and a Celeron 400 plus various VMs on PCs running XP. My two AMD boxes are only used to run XP Pro and XP Pro 64. Running on an old AMD K6-II -- 500 MHz (My ME test box). Running okay. Just a silly question (I'm trying to figure out if there's any basis for the claims that it's only effecting people on dialup which doesn't seem logical to me but I've never been the most logical person.) Are you using broadband or dialup? Personally installed the update twice (one on 98se and one on ME) to test and haven't a problem here. The 98se is PIII 1 GHz and ME is mentioned above. Not a glitch or slowdown. Both are "lite" systems in that they've only a firewall and KAV installed besides the OS itself. Just plain old test boxes just for this. Galen -- Signature changed for a moment of silence. Rest well Alex and we'll see you on the other side. |
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"Galen" wrote in message
... Running on an old AMD K6-II -- 500 MHz (My ME test box). Running okay. Just a silly question (I'm trying to figure out if there's any basis for the claims that it's only effecting people on dialup which doesn't seem logical to me but I've never been the most logical person.) Are you using broadband or dialup? Another data point, eh? OK, to update the list I sent on the other message thread, here's my machines 1. AMD Athelon XP 1900+, broadband .. No problems (yet) 2. AMD Athelon XP 1700+, broadband .. No problems (yet) 3. AMD 400MHz, dialup .. Occasional "surprise" resets since applying KB891711 - Bill |
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Now this may be a false hope but I just ran Microsofts "Regclean" and haven't
had a freeze-up for several hours. Maybe that update enters something in the registry which doesn't get removed when uninstalling it via add/remove. Perhaps others who are more knowledgeable may know? That sort of figures somehow. If the registry is re-routing things through a program that doen't exist it would freeze the pc? Knowing my luck it will be back tomorrow!!!! Hillneerg "N. Miller" wrote: In article , Lester Stiefel says... You've struck paydirt. Older processors are not compatible with that fix. Only Athlon 700mhz up and newer Intel processors are compatible. Its not the OS, Its the chip. What is the division point on the chips? I have two HP Pavilion 6745C computers, purchased on the same day, at the same place. Computer "Megumi": ------------------ OS Name Microsoft Windows Version 4.90.3000 Build 3000 OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation System Name MEGUMI System Manufacturer 00101880 6745C System Model 15144200050321 System Type X86-based PC Processor Intel(r) Celeron(tm) processor GenuineIntel ~700 Mhz BIOS Version EPP revision 9.00 Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS System Directory C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM Boot Device \\Device\Harddisk0 Locale United States User Name ******** Time Zone Pacific Standard Time Total Physical Memory 190.45 MB Available Physical Memory 4.10 MB Total Virtual Memory 734.95 MB Available Virtual Memory 388.79 MB Page File Space 544.50 MB Page File D:\WIN386.SWP ----------------- Computer "Naomi": ----------------- OS Name Microsoft Windows Version 4.90.3000 Build 3000 OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation System Name NAOMI System Manufacturer 00101880 6745C System Model 15144200050321 System Type X86-based PC Processor Intel(r) Celeron(tm) processor GenuineIntel ~700 Mhz BIOS Version EPP revision 9.00 Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS System Directory C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM Boot Device \\Device\Harddisk0 Locale United States User Name ******** Time Zone Pacific Standard Time Total Physical Memory 190.45 MB Available Physical Memory 2.10 MB Total Virtual Memory 735.63 MB Available Virtual Memory 407.82 MB Page File Space 545.19 MB Page File D:\WIN386.SWP The serial numbers are different by nine, "Megumi" having the lower S/N. Kb891711 runs fine on "Naomi", but crashes applications on "Megumi". -- Norman ~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta ~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain ~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint |
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In ,
Bill Leary had this to say: My reply is at the bottom of your sent message: "Galen" wrote in message ... Running on an old AMD K6-II -- 500 MHz (My ME test box). Running okay. Just a silly question (I'm trying to figure out if there's any basis for the claims that it's only effecting people on dialup which doesn't seem logical to me but I've never been the most logical person.) Are you using broadband or dialup? Another data point, eh? OK, to update the list I sent on the other message thread, here's my machines 1. AMD Athelon XP 1900+, broadband .. No problems (yet) 2. AMD Athelon XP 1700+, broadband .. No problems (yet) 3. AMD 400MHz, dialup .. Occasional "surprise" resets since applying KB891711 - Bill Curiouser and curiouser... See also this: I have to go down into the village to pick up a package from UPS in about ten minutes - I have to sign for it though it shouldn't really matter but I guess in a way I'm glad that I do. While I'm down there I'm going to bring a box down there and set it up. My parent's have DSL (I can't get DSL here) and I'll see if there's a difference. I will bring a laptop down and check it though I'd feel better with a ghosted system that I could just leave there running for a day or two. Will let you know if there's a problem with it down there. Galen -- Signature changed for a moment of silence. Rest well Alex and we'll see you on the other side. |
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