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Old August 15th 06, 08:15 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
PA Bear
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Default Unable to install Win98 SE

How do I install Windows® 98/Me after I've installed XP?
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_repair_9x.htm
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org


AuldPhart wrote:
Hello, I will try to keep this as short and consise as I can.

Up until about 6 months ago, I was running WIN98 SE. I
decided to try out XP & SP2, and found that I like it pretty
well. I installed the XP drivers for my ancient ATI All-In-Wonder
Pro 128 AGP vid card. Since then, I have been unable to
perform video capture using VirtualDub.

I decided to install WIN98SE on another drive to get this
ability back. When I try to install, I can get all of the files
loaded on the drive in the WIN98 folder I created. When
it comes time to install the OS, The mouse cursor freezes
at the "Welcome to windows install" window. I borrowed
a friends WIN98 SE disc, and the same thing happens.
I have not changed a thing in regards to hardware since
I last ran WIN98 SE.

Any ideas? Thank you.


  #2  
Old August 16th 06, 04:52 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
PA Bear
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Default Unable to install Win98 SE

It helps immensely if you include all of previous message(s) in your replies
to the newsgroup. Thank you.
--
~PA Bear

AuldPhart wrote:
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 15:15:23 -0400, "PA Bear" wrote:

How do I install Windows® 98/Me after I've installed XP?
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_repair_9x.htm

Well, call me a dummy. I don't really understand all of
the technical stuff at the above URL. It keeps referring
to XP.

The only drive that is in my machine is a formatted
FAT32 drive that I am trying to install WIN98SE.
What does XP have to do with that blank drive?
My XP drive isn't in the machine. What am I missing
here? Thank you.


  #3  
Old August 16th 06, 05:24 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
glee
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Default Unable to install Win98 SE

It would have helped immensely if you had mentioned at the outset that you have
removed the hard drive on which XP is installed....it totally changes the situation
and procedures used.

In your original message you state that you can "get all the files loaded on the
drive in the WIN98 folder I created". I assume by that you mean that you are
copying the contents of the CD's Win98 folder to one on the hard drive, in order to
run setup from there.....is that correct?

You also stated that you "borrowed a friends WIN98 SE disc, and the same thing
happens". In that instance, are you running setup directly from the CD rather than
copying the setup files to the hard drive?

Is there anything on the drive at all, or is it totally blank and formatted?

Have you checked to ensure that the BIOS Virus Protection is disabled?

It is also possible that while disconnecting/switching the drives, you bumped and
slightly dislodged one of the circuit boards inside the computer. Re-seat all the
cards (sound, video, and so forth), and also re-seat the RAM.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"AuldPhart" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 15:15:23 -0400, "PA Bear" wrote:

How do I install Windows® 98/Me after I've installed XP?
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_repair_9x.htm

Well, call me a dummy. I don't really understand all of
the technical stuff at the above URL. It keeps referring
to XP.

The only drive that is in my machine is a formatted
FAT32 drive that I am trying to install WIN98SE.
What does XP have to do with that blank drive?
My XP drive isn't in the machine. What am I missing
here? Thank you.


"AuldPhart" wrote in message
.. .
Hello, I will try to keep this as short and consise as I can.

Up until about 6 months ago, I was running WIN98 SE. I
decided to try out XP & SP2, and found that I like it pretty
well. I installed the XP drivers for my ancient ATI All-In-Wonder
Pro 128 AGP vid card. Since then, I have been unable to
perform video capture using VirtualDub.

I decided to install WIN98SE on another drive to get this
ability back. When I try to install, I can get all of the files
loaded on the drive in the WIN98 folder I created. When
it comes time to install the OS, The mouse cursor freezes
at the "Welcome to windows install" window. I borrowed
a friends WIN98 SE disc, and the same thing happens.
I have not changed a thing in regards to hardware since
I last ran WIN98 SE.

Any ideas? Thank you.



  #4  
Old August 16th 06, 09:12 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Gekko
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Default Unable to install Win98 SE


You also stated that you "borrowed a friends WIN98 SE disc, and the same

thing
happens". In that instance, are you running setup directly from the CD

rather than
copying the setup files to the hard drive?


----------
No, I copied the files to the hard drive.
----------

When you say that you 'Copied' the files to the hard-drive, we are
talking about the Cab files arent we?
Gekko


  #5  
Old August 16th 06, 08:26 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
PA Bear
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Default Unable to install Win98 SE

Learn how to configure Forte Agent to include previous message(s) in
replies.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org

AuldPhart wrote:
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 23:52:23 -0400, "PA Bear" wrote:

It helps immensely if you include all of previous message(s) in your
replies to the newsgroup. Thank you.

I don't know what the deal is, but when I reply to
your messages, all of my message disappears.
It doesn't happen to anyone elses messages.


  #6  
Old August 16th 06, 08:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
PA Bear
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AuldPhart wrote:
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 00:24:25 -0400, "glee"
wrote:
It would have helped immensely if you had mentioned at the outset that
you have removed the hard drive on which XP is installed....it totally
changes the situation and procedures used.


I did. Read the first sentence of second paragraph.


Excuse me? Here is your entire first post to this thread (to which I
replied). We see no mention whatsoever of you having removed the HDD on
which WinXP was installed:

QP
"AuldPhart" wrote in message
...
Hello, I will try to keep this as short and consise as I can.

Up until about 6 months ago, I was running WIN98 SE. I
decided to try out XP & SP2, and found that I like it pretty
well. I installed the XP drivers for my ancient ATI All-In-Wonder
Pro 128 AGP vid card. Since then, I have been unable to
perform video capture using VirtualDub.

I decided to install WIN98SE on another drive to get this
ability back. When I try to install, I can get all of the files
loaded on the drive in the WIN98 folder I created. When
it comes time to install the OS, The mouse cursor freezes
at the "Welcome to windows install" window. I borrowed
a friends WIN98 SE disc, and the same thing happens.
I have not changed a thing in regards to hardware since
I last ran WIN98 SE.

Any ideas? Thank you.

/QP
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), Aumha.org VSOP, DTS-L.org

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Old August 17th 06, 12:33 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
... et al.
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AuldPhart wrote:

"PA Bear" wrote:

It helps immensely if you include all of previous message(s) in your replies
to the newsgroup. Thank you.


I don't know what the deal is, but when I reply to
your messages, all of my message disappears.
It doesn't happen to anyone elses messages.


Your news-client (Agent) is behaving properly and works well together
with all other news-clients that also behaves according to long-set
standards and conventions. However Outlook Express, that PA Bear uses,
comes misconfigured by default and does not play nice with other
news-clients!

All properly working News-clients do clip of the signature to when they
are respond to a post. The signature is the bottom part of a post where
people put there contact-information also frequently funny or boring
quotes or other tidbits.

How does news-clients know where the /signature/ begins so it knows what
to auto-delete when it starts a reply? The convetion is that a line with
two dashes and a spase is the marker (-- ). Look at PA Bears post and
see that your news-cliens properly deleted the /signature/ which in his
case includes the qouted text that PA Bear whants you to not delete.

My hypothesis is that this is Microsofts way of making users of other
news-clients *think* that someting is wrong with their own client and
then /return/ to use Outlook Express that comes pre-installed on All
Windows-machines. My opinion; Don't give in!

--
"We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ships.
We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own.
Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile."

Please followup in the newsgroup.
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Old August 17th 06, 12:33 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
... et al.
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Default Unable to install Win98 SE

PA Bear wrote:

Learn how to configure Forte Agent to include previous message(s) in
replies.


If you fix your Outlook Express so that it quotes and uses the
'Signature delimiter' properly, it won't be a problem for responders.

http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/

You yourself (i assume you're the same) posted about it he
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=19603&
Why not use it and play fair with users of other news-clients?

--
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Please followup in the newsgroup.
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Old August 17th 06, 01:34 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
glee
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Default Unable to install Win98 SE

Um, then how do you explain the fact that my reply to your original post is also
top-posted and includes the same sig delimiter as PA Bear's , yet your reply to me
in this thread did not cut anything, as it did in your reply to Robear??
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"AuldPhart" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 23:33:46 GMT, "... et al."
wrote:

AuldPhart wrote:

"PA Bear" wrote:

It helps immensely if you include all of previous message(s) in your replies
to the newsgroup. Thank you.

I don't know what the deal is, but when I reply to
your messages, all of my message disappears.
It doesn't happen to anyone elses messages.


Your news-client (Agent) is behaving properly and works well together
with all other news-clients that also behaves according to long-set
standards and conventions. However Outlook Express, that PA Bear uses,
comes misconfigured by default and does not play nice with other
news-clients!

All properly working News-clients do clip of the signature to when they
are respond to a post. The signature is the bottom part of a post where
people put there contact-information also frequently funny or boring
quotes or other tidbits.

How does news-clients know where the /signature/ begins so it knows what
to auto-delete when it starts a reply? The convetion is that a line with
two dashes and a spase is the marker (-- ). Look at PA Bears post and
see that your news-cliens properly deleted the /signature/ which in his
case includes the qouted text that PA Bear whants you to not delete.


Yes, I see what you are saying. Also, due to the fact that PA Bear
top-posts is the reason that everything disappears when I reply.

My hypothesis is that this is Microsofts way of making users of other
news-clients *think* that someting is wrong with their own client and
then /return/ to use Outlook Express that comes pre-installed on All
Windows-machines. My opinion; Don't give in!

I have never used Outlook Express, and I never will.

Thanks for the backup.
--

AP

P.E.T.A. People Eating Tasty Animals




  #10  
Old August 17th 06, 02:30 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
... et al.
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glee wrote:

Um, then how do you explain the fact that my reply to your original post
is also top-posted and includes the same sig delimiter as PA Bear's ,
yet your reply to me in this thread did not cut anything, as it did in
your reply to Robear??


Do you mean this post of yours to AuldPhart's second post in this thread:

and this followup to that by AuldPhart:
news
There AuldPhart's followup correctly auto-snipped the quoted text your
Outlook Express-client had improperly put below you sig-delimiter, just
like it correctly did with the followups to PA Bear. ... and just like
my different news-client, Thunderbird, does when i posts followups to
either you or PA Bear.

--
"You have to pay to get out of
Going through all these things twice."

Please followup in the newsgroup.
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