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  #21  
Old February 7th 10, 04:14 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Rockytsquirrel
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Posts: 25
Default networking ME to win 7 via router

Greetings Mike,
Correct, there is a way to allow LAN through the NORTON Firewall, but
I'll need to research the IP addresses to all the other machines and then
their individual names or ID's..
Currently I do not know that information. It then is added to an exception
page in the NORTONS firewall setup.
However, I was able to access the ME machine I wanted by shutting down the
NORTON firewall.
That 1 hour access saved me 4 hours of copy and paste via flash drive..
;-)

Tks to all who offered help and advice.
I think I'm beginning to get a feel for this win 7..
( and even the NORTONS which has a grip on it..) LOL

tks again
RTS


"Mike M" wrote in message
...
Once you get rid of the Norton firewall and can "see" the other machines
on the network (the four devices probably being your router, Vista PC and
2x Win Me PCs) you should have no problem with your Win 7 machine
accessing files on any Win Me shares, you should also be able to
communicate both ways between your Vista and Win 7 machines. Similarly if
you were to have a machine running XP you would also be able to establish
two way communication.

Nevertheless I would have thought that you should be able to configure
Norton's firewall to permit access. Surely there has to be a setting or
option on it that identifies blocked machines and allows you to permit
access?

And now to bed ...
--
Mike M


Rockytsquirrel wrote:

Greetings Mike,
Yep, first thing I found is NORTONS firewall has totally blocked
all LAN connections, NORTONS says there are 4 devices on the
network but without the IP address and connection machine name it
will not open the path.. As Noel suggested I'm looking for a way to
shut down the firewall, but it may take a while for me to get
famililar enough with it to find the correct settings.

Ever since Peter Norton sold his company its been in a downward
spin...
I was hoping to keep things as they were on this new machine till I
got a better understanding of how it works but if this is any
indication I may not be able to wait. ;-)

Mike, as for the networking and file sharing, the ME's don't need
to access the win 7 machine, I was just wanting the win 7 machine
to link with the ME's so I could move all the txt files and html's,
jpg. mov, and the like to the newer system..

(the newer machine can burn DVD's ;-) which helps with
backups)
tks again for all the feedback


  #22  
Old February 7th 10, 09:48 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Noel Paton[_3_]
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Posts: 229
Default networking ME to win 7 via router

Glad you got through the Wall!
Don't forget, chances are that the Norton you got is only a trial (maybe
3months?) - so you'll have to stump up sooner or later for their paid
offering if you want to keep it.
There are very good free AV offerings from the likes of Avira, Alwil, AVG,
and even MS, as well as others. All come without the excess baggage that is
the rest of the Norton stuff.
The first three are slightly cut-down (usually in terms of configurability),
ad-bearing (for the paid version) apps - MS's offering (Microsoft Security
Essentials) is actually a consumer version of their Enterprise AV - and once
installed, you almost don't notice it's there.


--
Noel Paton
CrashFixPC

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
www.crashfixpc.co.uk
"Rockytsquirrel" wrote in message
...
Greetings Mike,
Correct, there is a way to allow LAN through the NORTON Firewall, but
I'll need to research the IP addresses to all the other machines and
then their individual names or ID's..
Currently I do not know that information. It then is added to an
exception page in the NORTONS firewall setup.
However, I was able to access the ME machine I wanted by shutting down
the NORTON firewall.
That 1 hour access saved me 4 hours of copy and paste via flash drive..
;-)

Tks to all who offered help and advice.
I think I'm beginning to get a feel for this win 7..
( and even the NORTONS which has a grip on it..) LOL

tks again
RTS


"Mike M" wrote in message
...
Once you get rid of the Norton firewall and can "see" the other machines
on the network (the four devices probably being your router, Vista PC and
2x Win Me PCs) you should have no problem with your Win 7 machine
accessing files on any Win Me shares, you should also be able to
communicate both ways between your Vista and Win 7 machines. Similarly if
you were to have a machine running XP you would also be able to establish
two way communication.

Nevertheless I would have thought that you should be able to configure
Norton's firewall to permit access. Surely there has to be a setting or
option on it that identifies blocked machines and allows you to permit
access?

And now to bed ...
--
Mike M


Rockytsquirrel wrote:

Greetings Mike,
Yep, first thing I found is NORTONS firewall has totally blocked
all LAN connections, NORTONS says there are 4 devices on the
network but without the IP address and connection machine name it
will not open the path.. As Noel suggested I'm looking for a way to
shut down the firewall, but it may take a while for me to get
famililar enough with it to find the correct settings.

Ever since Peter Norton sold his company its been in a downward
spin...
I was hoping to keep things as they were on this new machine till I
got a better understanding of how it works but if this is any
indication I may not be able to wait. ;-)

Mike, as for the networking and file sharing, the ME's don't need
to access the win 7 machine, I was just wanting the win 7 machine
to link with the ME's so I could move all the txt files and html's,
jpg. mov, and the like to the newer system..

(the newer machine can burn DVD's ;-) which helps with
backups)
tks again for all the feedback



  #23  
Old February 7th 10, 01:00 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Joan Archer[_4_]
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Posts: 81
Default networking ME to win 7 via router

You're welcome I would think alongside your book and the brains here, I
don't include myself in that, you'll get everything sorted out.
Enjoy using Windows 7 it is a very good OS and once you find your way around
it I think you will come to love using it.

--
Joan Archer
http://www.freewebs.com/crossstitcher

"Rockytsquirrel" wrote in message
news
Tks Joan,
I'll add this link to my new computer help file..
As I was telling Noel, I just purchased the "Dummies" book and I hope
I'll find the over looked problem soon..
(the old brain doesn't work as fast as it use too..)

tks again,
RTS



"Joan Archer" wrote in message
...
Is this any use to you ?

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...ons-of-Windows

--
Joan Archer
http://www.freewebs.com/crossstitcher

"Rockytsquirrel" wrote in message
...
Greetings,
Got a win 7 machine last month and was hoping to network it with the
older ME machines (2 in current network).
However each attempt the win 7 machine asks for passwords and such
which the networked ME machines
never used..
I'm not big on networks, any suggestions would be appreciated..

RTS


  #24  
Old February 7th 10, 02:54 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Mike M
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Posts: 2,047
Default networking ME to win 7 via router

Correct, there is a way to allow LAN through the NORTON Firewall, but
I'll need to research the IP addresses to all the other machines
and then their individual names or ID's..
Currently I do not know that information.


That's totally ridiculous. Norton should be telling out what the devices
are and asking whether you wish to access them or not rather than you having
to establish the IPs and names of the devices you want to connect to. If
for some reason you feel the need for a third party firewall you can do very
much better than use the insane offering from Symantec you have installed at
present. Personally I use the XP, Vista or Win 7 firewalls and never used a
firewall with Win Me, with my router's SPI & NAT firewall being my primary
line of defence.
--
Mike Maltby



Rockytsquirrel wrote:

Greetings Mike,
Correct, there is a way to allow LAN through the NORTON Firewall, but
I'll need to research the IP addresses to all the other machines
and then their individual names or ID's..
Currently I do not know that information. It then is added to an
exception page in the NORTONS firewall setup.
However, I was able to access the ME machine I wanted by shutting down
the NORTON firewall.
That 1 hour access saved me 4 hours of copy and paste via flash
drive.. ;-)

Tks to all who offered help and advice.
I think I'm beginning to get a feel for this win 7..
( and even the NORTONS which has a grip on it..) LOL


  #25  
Old February 7th 10, 03:44 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Arbuthnott Ferriwinkle
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Posts: 6
Default networking ME to win 7 via router

Noel,

Some points:

There seems to be a groundswell of opinion (whatever that means!) that
Norton AV is greatly improved these days (essentially far less
resource-hungry than it has been since circa 2003). I expect the SystemWorks
or whatever they do these days is still awful, and really, everyone should
just not use firewalls from any of these not-primarily-firewall-software
companys! For software firewalls - essential even with a router with a
firewall - Comodo and OnlineArmor are probably the best free ones. I'm using
Comodo widely thses days.

Do, please, call what you label here 'ad-bearing' the rather more
appropriate 'nag ware'. Though I'd be fascinated to know accurate statistics
as to the sum affect of intrusive pop-ups on, say, AVG usage. I for one will
never use it again! Or indeed the equally-awful-these-days Zone Alarm.

My opinion on Avast! is mixed. I still dislike it intensely for look and
feel, though others patently like it, but the important thing is it seems to
perform pretty well (on a par with Antivir, which I am now using on the
everyday system despite having a couple of months left on my NOD32 license).

It is easy to disable the Antivir nagscreen (and the Diskeeper Lite, come to
that!).

Finally, in not one of my own trials over the years nor any test by the
reputable testing labs nor in any in any sense rigorous review I've seen has
any Microsoft anti-malware product peformed even as well as average.
Generally it has been about on a par with Norton/McAfee at their worse.

Shane


Noel Paton wrote:
Glad you got through the Wall!
Don't forget, chances are that the Norton you got is only a trial
(maybe 3months?) - so you'll have to stump up sooner or later for
their paid offering if you want to keep it.
There are very good free AV offerings from the likes of Avira, Alwil,
AVG, and even MS, as well as others. All come without the excess
baggage that is the rest of the Norton stuff.
The first three are slightly cut-down (usually in terms of
configurability), ad-bearing (for the paid version) apps - MS's
offering (Microsoft Security Essentials) is actually a consumer
version of their Enterprise AV - and once installed, you almost don't
notice it's there.


Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
www.crashfixpc.co.uk
"Rockytsquirrel" wrote in message
...
Greetings Mike,
Correct, there is a way to allow LAN through the NORTON Firewall,
but I'll need to research the IP addresses to all the other
machines and then their individual names or ID's..
Currently I do not know that information. It then is added to an
exception page in the NORTONS firewall setup.
However, I was able to access the ME machine I wanted by shutting down
the NORTON firewall.
That 1 hour access saved me 4 hours of copy and paste via flash
drive.. ;-)

Tks to all who offered help and advice.
I think I'm beginning to get a feel for this win 7..
( and even the NORTONS which has a grip on it..) LOL

tks again
RTS


"Mike M" wrote in message
...
Once you get rid of the Norton firewall and can "see" the other
machines on the network (the four devices probably being your
router, Vista PC and 2x Win Me PCs) you should have no problem with
your Win 7 machine accessing files on any Win Me shares, you should
also be able to communicate both ways between your Vista and Win 7
machines. Similarly if you were to have a machine running XP you
would also be able to establish two way communication.

Nevertheless I would have thought that you should be able to
configure Norton's firewall to permit access. Surely there has to
be a setting or option on it that identifies blocked machines and
allows you to permit access?

And now to bed ...
--
Mike M


Rockytsquirrel wrote:

Greetings Mike,
Yep, first thing I found is NORTONS firewall has totally
blocked all LAN connections, NORTONS says there are 4 devices on
the network but without the IP address and connection machine
name it will not open the path.. As Noel suggested I'm looking
for a way to shut down the firewall, but it may take a while for me
to get famililar enough with it to find the correct
settings. Ever since Peter Norton sold his company its been in a
downward
spin...
I was hoping to keep things as they were on this new machine till
I got a better understanding of how it works but if this is any
indication I may not be able to wait. ;-)

Mike, as for the networking and file sharing, the ME's don't
need to access the win 7 machine, I was just wanting the win 7
machine to link with the ME's so I could move all the txt files
and html's, jpg. mov, and the like to the newer system..

(the newer machine can burn DVD's ;-) which helps with
backups)
tks again for all the feedback



  #26  
Old February 7th 10, 03:58 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Arbuthnott Ferriwinkle
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 6
Default networking ME to win 7 via router

Mike,

offering from Symantec you have installed at present. Personally I
use the XP, Vista or Win 7 firewalls and never used a firewall with
Win Me, with my router's SPI & NAT firewall being my primary line of
defence.


I feel I should argue that for someone who really understands routers, like
yourself, fair enough, but for the majority these days they still need a
software firewall i). because enough router firewalls have been compromised
this last year that with certain models it would be the equivalent of users
showing lack of caution online because they believe their antivirus program
stops *all* viruses, and ii). because you need one to tell you what, if
anything, is trying to phone home.

I must be right, because this piece of salmon is done to perfection! QED!

Shane


  #27  
Old February 7th 10, 05:38 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Rockytsquirrel
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Posts: 25
Default networking ME to win 7 via router

Greetings Noel,
yep, we use AVG for years till they dropped ME, we then switched to
Avast (their still updating the old ME now)
after this NORTONS runs out, we'll most likely go back to one of those..
I also had SpywareBlaster but I'm not sure if it will work on a win 7
machine.

oh, the thing you have to keep up with.. LOL

tks again,
RTS

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Glad you got through the Wall!
Don't forget, chances are that the Norton you got is only a trial (maybe
3months?) - so you'll have to stump up sooner or later for their paid
offering if you want to keep it.
There are very good free AV offerings from the likes of Avira, Alwil, AVG,
and even MS, as well as others. All come without the excess baggage that
is the rest of the Norton stuff.
The first three are slightly cut-down (usually in terms of
configurability), ad-bearing (for the paid version) apps - MS's offering
(Microsoft Security Essentials) is actually a consumer version of their
Enterprise AV - and once installed, you almost don't notice it's there.


--
Noel Paton
CrashFixPC

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
www.crashfixpc.co.uk
"Rockytsquirrel" wrote in message
...
Greetings Mike,
Correct, there is a way to allow LAN through the NORTON Firewall,
but I'll need to research the IP addresses to all the other machines
and then their individual names or ID's..
Currently I do not know that information. It then is added to an
exception page in the NORTONS firewall setup.
However, I was able to access the ME machine I wanted by shutting down
the NORTON firewall.
That 1 hour access saved me 4 hours of copy and paste via flash drive..
;-)

Tks to all who offered help and advice.
I think I'm beginning to get a feel for this win 7..
( and even the NORTONS which has a grip on it..) LOL

tks again
RTS


"Mike M" wrote in message
...
Once you get rid of the Norton firewall and can "see" the other machines
on the network (the four devices probably being your router, Vista PC
and 2x Win Me PCs) you should have no problem with your Win 7 machine
accessing files on any Win Me shares, you should also be able to
communicate both ways between your Vista and Win 7 machines. Similarly
if you were to have a machine running XP you would also be able to
establish two way communication.

Nevertheless I would have thought that you should be able to configure
Norton's firewall to permit access. Surely there has to be a setting or
option on it that identifies blocked machines and allows you to permit
access?

And now to bed ...
--
Mike M


Rockytsquirrel wrote:

Greetings Mike,
Yep, first thing I found is NORTONS firewall has totally blocked
all LAN connections, NORTONS says there are 4 devices on the
network but without the IP address and connection machine name it
will not open the path.. As Noel suggested I'm looking for a way to
shut down the firewall, but it may take a while for me to get
famililar enough with it to find the correct settings.

Ever since Peter Norton sold his company its been in a downward
spin...
I was hoping to keep things as they were on this new machine till I
got a better understanding of how it works but if this is any
indication I may not be able to wait. ;-)

Mike, as for the networking and file sharing, the ME's don't need
to access the win 7 machine, I was just wanting the win 7 machine
to link with the ME's so I could move all the txt files and html's,
jpg. mov, and the like to the newer system..

(the newer machine can burn DVD's ;-) which helps with
backups)
tks again for all the feedback


  #28  
Old February 7th 10, 05:41 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Rockytsquirrel
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Posts: 25
Default networking ME to win 7 via router

Greetings Joan,
the win 7 so far seem like a real improvement over past MSN products..
I have notice some of the terms they use I have to look up in the old
book, to know what their talking about..
But I guess it will all work out in the end, it usually does..

tks again,
RTS

"Joan Archer" wrote in message
...
You're welcome I would think alongside your book and the brains here, I
don't include myself in that, you'll get everything sorted out.
Enjoy using Windows 7 it is a very good OS and once you find your way
around it I think you will come to love using it.

--
Joan Archer
http://www.freewebs.com/crossstitcher

"Rockytsquirrel" wrote in message
news
Tks Joan,
I'll add this link to my new computer help file..
As I was telling Noel, I just purchased the "Dummies" book and I hope
I'll find the over looked problem soon..
(the old brain doesn't work as fast as it use too..)

tks again,
RTS



"Joan Archer" wrote in message
...
Is this any use to you ?

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...ons-of-Windows

--
Joan Archer
http://www.freewebs.com/crossstitcher

"Rockytsquirrel" wrote in message
...
Greetings,
Got a win 7 machine last month and was hoping to network it with the
older ME machines (2 in current network).
However each attempt the win 7 machine asks for passwords and such
which the networked ME machines
never used..
I'm not big on networks, any suggestions would be appreciated..

RTS

  #29  
Old February 7th 10, 05:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Rockytsquirrel
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Posts: 25
Default networking ME to win 7 via router

Greetings Mike,
your right I'm sure, I use the "tiny firewall" on the old ME's that plus
the router stopped all the problems I had been having when directly
connected..
(back in 2006 I had over 2000 + daily pings from somewhere in china..)

My next project will be to get the link for the total removal of nortons..
It seem I head that the symantec site had such a tool..

tks again,
RTS


"Mike M" wrote in message
...
Correct, there is a way to allow LAN through the NORTON Firewall, but
I'll need to research the IP addresses to all the other machines
and then their individual names or ID's..
Currently I do not know that information.


That's totally ridiculous. Norton should be telling out what the devices
are and asking whether you wish to access them or not rather than you
having to establish the IPs and names of the devices you want to connect
to. If for some reason you feel the need for a third party firewall you
can do very much better than use the insane offering from Symantec you
have installed at present. Personally I use the XP, Vista or Win 7
firewalls and never used a firewall with Win Me, with my router's SPI &
NAT firewall being my primary line of defence.
--
Mike Maltby



Rockytsquirrel wrote:

Greetings Mike,
Correct, there is a way to allow LAN through the NORTON Firewall, but
I'll need to research the IP addresses to all the other machines
and then their individual names or ID's..
Currently I do not know that information. It then is added to an
exception page in the NORTONS firewall setup.
However, I was able to access the ME machine I wanted by shutting down
the NORTON firewall.
That 1 hour access saved me 4 hours of copy and paste via flash
drive.. ;-)

Tks to all who offered help and advice.
I think I'm beginning to get a feel for this win 7..
( and even the NORTONS which has a grip on it..) LOL


  #30  
Old February 7th 10, 06:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Mike M
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Posts: 2,047
Default networking ME to win 7 via router

Shane,

I didn't say I didn't use a firewall other than when running Win Me, just
that I feel no need to add a third party firewall to the offerings included
as part of more recent Windows operating systems. As for router firewalls
being compromised; are you referring to the weak and predictable passwords
often used on routers, especially those supplied by many ISPs? Such weak
passwords then permitting otherwise unauthorised users to access the router
from the internet and configure it to suit their wishes.
--
Mike


Arbuthnott Ferriwinkle wrote:

Mike,

offering from Symantec you have installed at present. Personally I
use the XP, Vista or Win 7 firewalls and never used a firewall with
Win Me, with my router's SPI & NAT firewall being my primary line of
defence.


I feel I should argue that for someone who really understands
routers, like yourself, fair enough, but for the majority these days
they still need a software firewall i). because enough router
firewalls have been compromised this last year that with certain
models it would be the equivalent of users showing lack of caution
online because they believe their antivirus program stops *all*
viruses, and ii). because you need one to tell you what, if anything,
is trying to phone home.
I must be right, because this piece of salmon is done to perfection!
QED!


 




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