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I don't know what the numbers there track but they plain and simply make
no sense at all! There is no way that anyone is going to make me beleive that there are more Win 3.x surfing the net than Win95, Win ME and Vista combined! These numbers are bogus, I dare say that there are more Vista machines on the net than Win 3.x machines and I also dare say that there are most likely more Win ME machines than Win 3.x. 1. Windows XP 53496272 (81%) 2. Win 2000 3570762 (5%) 3. Win NT 3085183 (4%) 4. Mac 2621571 (3%) 5. Win 98 1426388 (2%) 6. Unknown 1047210 (1%) 7. Linux 399138 (0%) 8. Win 3.x 81427 (0%) 9. Unix 24958 (0%) 10. Win 95 17490 (0%) 11. WebTV 13251 (0%) 12. OS/2 2755 (0%) 13. Windows ME 1810 (0%) 14. Windows Vista 43 (0%) 15. Amiga 42 (0%) John 98 Guy wrote: "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: You are mistaken. Of internet users, less than 1% use Windows 98. I've seen stats indicating 2% as of July 2007. MUCH less than any other OS that's been out since 98 came out I believe that there were versions of Linux back in 1998, and naturally there was unix, win 3.x and win-98. Win-98 use is currently used more than any of those, not "MUCH less". http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp Which tracks only hits to that web domain. This tracks hits to all domains using this reporting and stats service: http://www.thecounter.com/stats/ I've just plotted all the 15 OS's they track (plotted going back to June 2006). I see a few interesting things: - MAC use jumped from 3% to 4% in Nov/2006 (but in general there is no general trend to the change) - Win-98 use was 5% in June 2006 and is 2% in July 2007 (basically, it's currently dropping at the rate of 1% every 7 months, so it should hit 1% in March 2008) - Linux is basically static, somewhere between .25 and .5% - Win-NT was less than Linux up until February 2007, when it started to climb 1% per month. I wonder if this is an error and this is really Vista being mis-identified as NT. - XP peaked at 84% in January 2007, and has been declining at 0.5% per month since then. Win-2K has shown a very even decline from 8.5% to 5.5% (about 0.2% decline per month) - Windows ME has stabilized at 0.003% for the past 6-8 months. - Win 3.x and Win-95 are very similar (0.1 to 0.15%) but win-95 has fallen to 0.0025% for the last 4 months . "ssome" wrote: Yea, we know, but... maybe a world wide petition. looks like 30% of users still use win 98 FAT32 is plenty and many of my friends still use DOS apps, i use one dbase for my books. we are not all gamers But you'll get laughed out of court if you demand that the world, particularly applications developers, cater to your anachronistic whims. "Ron Badour" wrote: MS no longer supports W98 and a petition will not change that I'm afraid. Ssome, you've got to realize that people like Gary and Ron earn their living based on continuous change in operating systems driven by the Micro$haft business model. Without OS turnover, we would end up with a stabilization of systems and software, and the need for IT people to tinker and troubleshoot and fix things would slowly go away. So the MVP's here have a vested interest in seeing people and businesses migrate to each new MS OS. |
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if memory was right, i was quoting F Langa poll among his readers
30% still held onto win 98, all vers maybe 2-3 yrs ago. my point being that if cleaned up, updated and sans MSoft spying, SE would be fine for many of the users out there. Then it might jump back to 30%. We simply do not need 64 bit words or $600 video cards. hackers tend to jump on new OSs and leave 98 alone. many of us have never run a game, or ever intend to (although the kids that visit do); we prefer personal programming, record keeping and images/video of our kids & gkids. the latter of which is difficult in 98 esp editing video. businesses should always jump to needy markets. i appreciate savvy MSoft types helping out, but i never appreciated snotty little computer pricks ssome "98 Guy" wrote in message ... "Gary S. Terhune" wrote: You are mistaken. Of internet users, less than 1% use Windows 98. I've seen stats indicating 2% as of July 2007. MUCH less than any other OS that's been out since 98 came out I believe that there were versions of Linux back in 1998, and naturally there was unix, win 3.x and win-98. Win-98 use is currently used more than any of those, not "MUCH less". http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp Which tracks only hits to that web domain. This tracks hits to all domains using this reporting and stats service: http://www.thecounter.com/stats/ I've just plotted all the 15 OS's they track (plotted going back to June 2006). I see a few interesting things: - MAC use jumped from 3% to 4% in Nov/2006 (but in general there is no general trend to the change) - Win-98 use was 5% in June 2006 and is 2% in July 2007 (basically, it's currently dropping at the rate of 1% every 7 months, so it should hit 1% in March 2008) - Linux is basically static, somewhere between .25 and .5% - Win-NT was less than Linux up until February 2007, when it started to climb 1% per month. I wonder if this is an error and this is really Vista being mis-identified as NT. - XP peaked at 84% in January 2007, and has been declining at 0.5% per month since then. Win-2K has shown a very even decline from 8.5% to 5.5% (about 0.2% decline per month) - Windows ME has stabilized at 0.003% for the past 6-8 months. - Win 3.x and Win-95 are very similar (0.1 to 0.15%) but win-95 has fallen to 0.0025% for the last 4 months . "ssome" wrote: Yea, we know, but... maybe a world wide petition. looks like 30% of users still use win 98 FAT32 is plenty and many of my friends still use DOS apps, i use one dbase for my books. we are not all gamers But you'll get laughed out of court if you demand that the world, particularly applications developers, cater to your anachronistic whims. "Ron Badour" wrote: MS no longer supports W98 and a petition will not change that I'm afraid. Ssome, you've got to realize that people like Gary and Ron earn their living based on continuous change in operating systems driven by the Micro$haft business model. Without OS turnover, we would end up with a stabilization of systems and software, and the need for IT people to tinker and troubleshoot and fix things would slowly go away. So the MVP's here have a vested interest in seeing people and businesses migrate to each new MS OS. |
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ssome wrote:
if memory was right, i was quoting F Langa poll among his readers 30% still held onto win 98, all vers maybe 2-3 yrs ago. Without downloading all the stats on the "thecounter.com" site, it seems that Win-98 was commanding first place with 40% as late as October/November 2003, with 2K in second place and XP in third place. Then in January / February 2004 a major change happened and XP took first place at around 50% and 98 fell to second place in the high 20's and falling a percent or two every month immediately after. Win-98 didn't spend much time in the 30% - 40% range at all. my point being that if cleaned up, updated and sans MSoft spying, SE would be fine for many of the users out there. Then it might jump back to 30%. No argument from me, but the demise of all windows OS's is tied into the strategic availability of motherboard chipset drivers (primarily) and with video card drivers (secondarily). Those factors are no doubt heavily influenced (behind the scenes) by Micro$haft. i appreciate savvy MSoft types helping out, but i never appreciated snotty little computer pricks Not sure what you are talking about with your last comment there. |
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Ssome, you've got to realize that people like Gary and Ron earn their living based on continuous change in operating systems driven by the Micro$haft business model. Without OS turnover, we would end up with a stabilization of systems and software, and the need for IT people to tinker and troubleshoot and fix things would slowly go away. So the MVP's here have a vested interest in seeing people and businesses migrate to each new MS OS. Stick to something you know something about. I have been retired for 14 years and I do not make a living doing computer work. I have no vested interest in change. I stuck with W98 as a personal operating system as long as I could because it was a fun system to tinker with. New hardware requires new systems and I was forced to switch operating systems because there were no 98 drivers for my hardware. Then a lack of questions this year in the 98 newsgroups forced me to start trying to help XP users instead of posting solely in 98 groups. Ron Badour MS MVP 1997 - 2007 |
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Ssome, you've got to realize that people like Gary and Ron earn their living based on continuous change in operating systems driven by the Micro$haft business model. Without OS turnover, we would end up with a stabilization of systems and software, and the need for IT people to tinker and troubleshoot and fix things would slowly go away. So the MVP's here have a vested interest in seeing people and businesses migrate to each new MS OS. Stick to something you know something about. I have been retired for 14 years and I do not make a living doing computer work. I have no vested interest in change. I stuck with W98 as a personal operating system as long as I could because it was a fun system to tinker with. New hardware requires new systems and I was forced to switch operating systems because there were no 98 drivers for my hardware. Then a lack of questions this year in the 98 newsgroups forced me to start trying to help XP users instead of posting solely in 98 groups. Ron Badour MS MVP 1997 - 2007 |
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Ron Badour wrote:
I have been retired for 14 years and I do not make a living doing computer work. It was my impression that MVP's were "acredited" with that designation based partly on the fact that they are employed in the IT field. |
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Ron Badour wrote:
I have been retired for 14 years and I do not make a living doing computer work. It was my impression that MVP's were "acredited" with that designation based partly on the fact that they are employed in the IT field. |
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Your impression is wrong--I retired from the Air Force and have never worked
in the IT field. -- Regards Ron Badour MS MVP 1997 - 2007 "98 Guy" wrote in message ... Ron Badour wrote: I have been retired for 14 years and I do not make a living doing computer work. It was my impression that MVP's were "acredited" with that designation based partly on the fact that they are employed in the IT field. |
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Your impression is wrong--I retired from the Air Force and have never worked
in the IT field. -- Regards Ron Badour MS MVP 1997 - 2007 "98 Guy" wrote in message ... Ron Badour wrote: I have been retired for 14 years and I do not make a living doing computer work. It was my impression that MVP's were "acredited" with that designation based partly on the fact that they are employed in the IT field. |
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Top Poster Ron Badour wrote:
I have been retired for 14 years and I do not make a living doing computer work. It was my impression that MVP's were "acredited" with that designation based partly on the fact that they are employed in the IT field. Your impression is wrong--I retired from the Air Force and have never worked in the IT field. It's not that my impression is necessarily wrong. It's just wrong in your case - and your case could be one out of a hundred. |
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