Win98SE CD from copy won't install on new used computer!

HI, I just got a newish used hard drive and searched all over the Net
for how to freshly install my Windows 98SE and followed all the
directions but it won't do the setup from the CD part. I downloaded the
files from bootdisk.com ( excellent source by the way), and burned the
files from my Windows, Options, Cabs folder to a CD.

Now, I turned on the computer, and did the Start Computer without CD
rom support and fdisked, though it wouldn't let me make 2 partitions
(another quest) and formatted. Now I rebooted enabling CD start support
and these command prompts came up. I tried everyone I could D:\setup,
changed to E and F ( which are the letters assigned to my CDrom and
CDrw drive...nothing worked. I saw one place where it said put just CD,
then setup, and that didn't work, so please help me from this prompt
and include any spaces, think it might be some little thing I am doing
wrong that is causing this ( my computer experience).

A:\

Also, my recovery CD won't go through the first set of screens either,
though it is getting old as I tried that avenue. The boot disk from
bootdisk.com has enough CD drivers to get going doesn't it, as it just
seemed to nix my commands. Anyway, will wait for your expertise and
assistance before I go any further. Thanks for listening, DD

"psongman" wrote in message
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. . . . I tried everyone I could D:\setup,
changed to E and F ( which are the letters assigned to my CDrom and
CDrw drive...nothing worked. I saw one place where it said put just CD,
then setup, and that didn't work, so please help me from this prompt
and include any spaces, think it might be some little thing I am doing
wrong that is causing this ( my computer experience).

A:\

This is a DOS prompt. To do anything you have to know
the appropriate DOS commands, e.g. E: or DIR or CHKDSK,
depending what you want to do.

We assume your system CD and boot floppy include
everything you need. E.g. after creating the CD did you
verify its completeness?

Before proceedinng further read how to instal the OS
on www.aumha.org or
http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/w98_restore.html

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

"psongman" wrote in message
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HI, I just got a newish used hard drive and searched all over the Net
for how to freshly install my Windows 98SE and followed all the
directions but it won't do the setup from the CD part. I downloaded
the
files from bootdisk.com ( excellent source by the way), and burned the
files from my Windows, Options, Cabs folder to a CD.

*Just* the cab files? That won't do anything, boot Cd or not. You need
to have the additional files (from the Windows CD) that extract/write
the files from the compressed files, put them where they belong,
etc...the "setup" program...

--

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When you burned the CD, was there a setup.exe file in your options folder?
I suspect that the folder may not have had all the required files. As far
as the commands go, see my instructions at the web site Don provided. BUT,
before you do anything, lets get the partitioning problem sorted out. Using
fdisk, you can create a primary partition and an extended partition that
contains one or more logical partitions. What exactly were you having
problems with?
--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"psongman" wrote in message
oups.com...
HI, I just got a newish used hard drive and searched all over the Net
for how to freshly install my Windows 98SE and followed all the
directions but it won't do the setup from the CD part. I downloaded the
files from bootdisk.com ( excellent source by the way), and burned the
files from my Windows, Options, Cabs folder to a CD.

Now, I turned on the computer, and did the Start Computer without CD
rom support and fdisked, though it wouldn't let me make 2 partitions
(another quest) and formatted. Now I rebooted enabling CD start support
and these command prompts came up. I tried everyone I could D:\setup,
changed to E and F ( which are the letters assigned to my CDrom and
CDrw drive...nothing worked. I saw one place where it said put just CD,
then setup, and that didn't work, so please help me from this prompt
and include any spaces, think it might be some little thing I am doing
wrong that is causing this ( my computer experience).

A:\

Also, my recovery CD won't go through the first set of screens either,
though it is getting old as I tried that avenue. The boot disk from
bootdisk.com has enough CD drivers to get going doesn't it, as it just
seemed to nix my commands. Anyway, will wait for your expertise and
assistance before I go any further. Thanks for listening, DD

HI, well it didn't give me an option to partition basically. On my
researching it said it would, like select entire drive, etc. that never
came up. So, I am beginning to believe that Windows 98SE is a lot
different than Windows 98, I am not getting the option boxes, in other
words. On the setup procedure, I will read the stuff from the website I
was directed to. I really want to copy the files to my hard drive and
then exe or setup from there. I have followed all those directions to,
nothing works. I think when you have done all these procedures before
you learn a little tip or trick that is not in the follow-these
methods. I record a lot of music and it is always some little thing
like a space not shown here and there or a back or forward slash that
the writer entered incorrectly. Anyway, thanks for all the assistance.
We will get this puppu up and running by nightfall. DD

P.S. How to check if what I need on the CD will do it might be a good
start?

Ok, I spent the last hour and a half attempting some of the things
mentioned. First of all I checked the CD I burned and there is a
setup.exe file in there. Now, I thought I would go the route of copying
the files from the CD to the hard drive. I keep following the commands
and here is what I get, either

mkdir already exists
md windows already exists
md windows cabs already exists

When I check Drive E, it says volume drive E Windows 98Se CD,

now do I have to always be typing in Win98SEcd or just Win98, see these
little things can stop the setup

under cabs though it says 0 files 0 bytes
1 dir 0 bytes

Now, I copied the Windows Options Cabs files from the folder, so maybe
that is a nono

The computer doesn't seem to be copying the files from the CD, or are
they already in the directories mentioned above and I just need to
access them. Well, I though a bit more info would help because I know
from past assistance that all the data the more experienced have, the
better they can diagnose and dissect your problem and get you up and
running. I have a feeling it is the CD drive but not sure, as it did
say what was in the volume. So, will wait for some more help, much
appreciated. I do have to have it up and running for the RoadRunner guy
though (yes, Broadband), so please keep the replies coming in,
appreciate it, DD

Try typing "dir /s /a e:\setup.exe". This should give you the directory in
which the file is located. Then type the drive and path, followed by the
file name, for example, is the directory is "e:\windows\options\cabs", type

e:\windows\options\cabs\setup.exe

Ben

"psongman" wrote in message oups.com...
Ok, I spent the last hour and a half attempting some of the things
mentioned. First of all I checked the CD I burned and there is a
setup.exe file in there. Now, I thought I would go the route of copying
the files from the CD to the hard drive. I keep following the commands
and here is what I get, either

mkdir already exists
md windows already exists
md windows cabs already exists

When I check Drive E, it says volume drive E Windows 98Se CD,

now do I have to always be typing in Win98SEcd or just Win98, see these
little things can stop the setup

under cabs though it says 0 files 0 bytes
1 dir 0 bytes

Now, I copied the Windows Options Cabs files from the folder, so maybe
that is a nono

The computer doesn't seem to be copying the files from the CD, or are
they already in the directories mentioned above and I just need to
access them. Well, I though a bit more info would help because I know
from past assistance that all the data the more experienced have, the
better they can diagnose and dissect your problem and get you up and
running. I have a feeling it is the CD drive but not sure, as it did
say what was in the volume. So, will wait for some more help, much
appreciated. I do have to have it up and running for the RoadRunner guy
though (yes, Broadband), so please keep the replies coming in,
appreciate it, DD

When it comes to partitioning a hard drive, W98 and W98SE are identical--see
the attached FDisk tutorial.

--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"psongman" wrote in message
oups.com...
HI, well it didn't give me an option to partition basically. On my
researching it said it would, like select entire drive, etc. that never
came up. So, I am beginning to believe that Windows 98SE is a lot
different than Windows 98, I am not getting the option boxes, in other
words. On the setup procedure, I will read the stuff from the website I
was directed to. I really want to copy the files to my hard drive and
then exe or setup from there. I have followed all those directions to,
nothing works. I think when you have done all these procedures before
you learn a little tip or trick that is not in the follow-these
methods. I record a lot of music and it is always some little thing
like a space not shown here and there or a back or forward slash that
the writer entered incorrectly. Anyway, thanks for all the assistance.
We will get this puppu up and running by nightfall. DD

P.S. How to check if what I need on the CD will do it might be a good
start?

"psongman" wrote in message
oups.com...

HI, well it didn't give me an option to partition basically. On my
researching it said it would, like select entire drive, etc. that never
came up. So, I am beginning to believe that Windows 98SE is a lot
different than Windows 98, I am not getting the option boxes, in other
words.

Perhaps your FDISK.COM has been corrupted.
This is a DOS utility, identical for all versions off
Windows up to XP (and documented in DOS manuals
in your city library.)

When you run FDISK you see a succession of menus:
1. To log to a different hard drive (if there are two).
2. To make or remove Partitions.
3. Partitions for Win98 are either DOS Primary or
Extended DOS.
4. When you use FDISK you must reboot DOS to
implement your actions.

Go to http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=255867
for more information about FDISK, i.e. all steps in
hard drive preparation up to FORMAT.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

Hi, yes, I don't get that succession of menus when I I run fdisk, but
how could it be corrupted, it is only booting from a boot disk made
from bootdisk.com for Windows 98SE. I am really at a loss as to what is
going in per this reinstall. I am going to pay this guy across the
river from us to perform it, and I will place what occurred in some of
these threads, to help others who might run into these snags when
attempting to reinstall Win 98SE or copy files from a restore disk and
accomplish it. There is some little ingredient that seems to be missing
that won't allow the OS from setting itself up. Thanks for assisting
and listening, DD