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Old January 21st 09, 03:40 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
mdwiaterski
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what is the best way to update my intel gateway pc from windows me. I know
microsoft doesnt offer any upgrades for that specific program but there has
got to be a way to upgrade this pc to make it at least partialy up to date. I
dont have a lot of money and I am not a computer wiz.
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Old January 21st 09, 04:38 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Mike M
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Win Me = XP is a valid upgrade path. If you want to run Vista then don't
bother trying to update a system currently running Win Me because a PC
running Win Me is likely to be at least six or more years old and unlikely
to be meet the minimum system requirements for Vista.
--
Mike Maltby



mdwiaterski wrote:

what is the best way to update my intel gateway pc from windows me. I
know microsoft doesnt offer any upgrades for that specific program
but there has got to be a way to upgrade this pc to make it at least
partialy up to date. I dont have a lot of money and I am not a
computer wiz.


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Old January 21st 09, 05:09 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Arturo[_4_]
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Morning, Mike.

I think I can tentatively blame the W7 beta release fiasco for keeping me up
half the night so that now I'm up half the night, every night! Here I am in
x64, using Windows Mail, which I now know how to re-enable (if not yet
anyway how to set as default), thanks to the forum Joan pointed me to.

Well, it is definately time to hit the sack!

Night, Mike.

Shane

"Mike M" wrote in message
...
Win Me = XP is a valid upgrade path. If you want to run Vista then don't
bother trying to update a system currently running Win Me because a PC
running Win Me is likely to be at least six or more years old and unlikely
to be meet the minimum system requirements for Vista.
--
Mike Maltby



mdwiaterski wrote:

what is the best way to update my intel gateway pc from windows me. I
know microsoft doesnt offer any upgrades for that specific program
but there has got to be a way to upgrade this pc to make it at least
partialy up to date. I dont have a lot of money and I am not a
computer wiz.



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Old January 21st 09, 06:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
N. Miller
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On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:40:00 -0800, mdwiaterski wrote:

what is the best way to update my intel gateway pc from windows me. I know
microsoft doesnt offer any upgrades for that specific program but there has
got to be a way to upgrade this pc to make it at least partialy up to date. I
dont have a lot of money and I am not a computer wiz.


If you don't have at least 512 KB of RAM, forget about upgrading to Windows
XP. MS claims XP will run in a minimum of 128 KB of RAM; but I have seen
that dog, and it won't hunt.

If you can afford to bring the RAM up to at least 512 KB, and can find a
Windows XP Upgrade pack (used to be available for $99, but very scarce now),
you can upgrade Windows Me to Windows XP Home Edition.

--
Norman
~Shine, bright morning light,
~now in the air the spring is coming.
~Sweet, blowing wind,
~singing down the hills and valleys.
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Old January 21st 09, 07:00 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Shane[_5_]
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N. Miller wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:40:00 -0800, mdwiaterski wrote:

what is the best way to update my intel gateway pc from windows me.
I know microsoft doesnt offer any upgrades for that specific program
but there has got to be a way to upgrade this pc to make it at least
partialy up to date. I dont have a lot of money and I am not a
computer wiz.


If you don't have at least 512 KB of RAM, forget about upgrading to
Windows XP. MS claims XP will run in a minimum of 128 KB of RAM; but
I have seen that dog, and it won't hunt.

If you can afford to bring the RAM up to at least 512 KB, and can
find a Windows XP Upgrade pack (used to be available for $99, but
very scarce now), you can upgrade Windows Me to Windows XP Home
Edition.


Norman, I ran XP on 256 MB RAM for a few years and it wasn't a serious
problem. One'd have to be running the sort of things that one wouldn't have
stuck with Me all these years if one were in the habit of so doing, for it
to become noticeable.

Shane


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Old January 21st 09, 08:11 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Mike M
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Shane wrote:

Norman, I ran XP on 256 MB RAM for a few years and it wasn't a serious
problem. One'd have to be running the sort of things that one
wouldn't have stuck with Me all these years if one were in the habit
of so doing, for it to become noticeable.


I agree 256MB RAM is quite usable when running XP for most consumer tasks,
browsing, WP, e-mail and the like. I even had a PC running XP Home with
just 128MB RAM soon after XP was launched and whilst that also worked it
tended to crawl when opening apps and at boot time. Perhaps of interest
if not for amusement I note that VPC 2007 allocates as its default 128MB
of RAM when creating a new XP system compared to 512MB for Vista and 64MB
for Win98.
--
Mike Maltby






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Old January 21st 09, 08:25 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Corday[_3_]
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Be careful when working with a Gateway computer. A lot of the stuff was
proprietory and anything not Gateway was not compatable. If you were more
experienced, I'd say Linux is a possibility, but really, you should stick
with ME.
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I mastered Wordstar graphics!


"mdwiaterski" wrote:

what is the best way to update my intel gateway pc from windows me. I know
microsoft doesnt offer any upgrades for that specific program but there has
got to be a way to upgrade this pc to make it at least partialy up to date. I
dont have a lot of money and I am not a computer wiz.

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Old January 22nd 09, 04:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Shane[_5_]
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was proprietory and anything not Gateway was not compatable. If you
were more experienced, I'd say Linux is a possibility, but really,



Hi Corday,

Originally I was going to say what Mike said, but also that there will
inevitably be suggestions to use Linux - though I anticipated from the
fanboy; whereas yours seems neutral (if like most, short on first hand
knowledge but doing certain others the honour of assuming them to be capable
of objectivity. Which some could say I'm not - I was going to liken the
claims for Ubuntu to the claims that "there's nothing wrong with smoking -
my grandad smoked 60 a day and lived to be 90, when he was hit by a bus!"
Substitute this for "My mum uses Ubuntu and thinks it's the greatest thing
since sliced bread!").

But Mike posted before me, so I didn't bother. But I just submitted the
following e-mail to opensuse.org and figured I might as well post it he

snip

I like openSUSE. It is about the only Linux distro I do like. But they all -
or at least the main ones - share the same fundamental problem: the
boot/partition management. Oh, it might be fine if all you are running is
Linux. But if multibooting with one or more Windows versions there are far
too many significant problems from the Linux end - which rather answers the
question "which to keep?"

openSUSE is better than - for instance - Debian-based distros, as far as
booting is concerned. In my experience all Debian-based distros are really
bad at finding the partition they just a moment ago installed to - whereas
Windows is comparatively excellent at this.

Windows NT6 - becoming more and more like Linux - is becoming less adaptable
such as when one reorders disk priority. 9x continues to boot no problem.
NT4/5 only requires changing a single number in boot.ini. Vista, Server 2008
and Windows 7 are quite easily redirected to the correct disk using BootItNG
(to get to BCDEdit) - no typing required! Even openSUSE, however, can fail
to boot when the disk order is changed in the bios and the (automated)
Repair Tool screw the installation up (not every time but the point is it is
not reliable!). I mean, most of the time one can change e.g. hd(0,1) to
hd(1,1) and boot to the desktop, then edit menu.lst (IIRC) - but not every
time!

But the biggest problem is that the partitioner even when one selects to do
it manually, often chooses to rearrange some of one's other partitions -
typically shared data partitions - and frequently changes a Primary
partition to an Extended, when it absolutely is not an Extended, absolutely
should not become an Extended, and I have verified really does it if you
allow the installation to proceed!

Only an idiot would consider that data is not at serious risk installing
openSUSE other than when none is present.

There are no such problems using PowerQuest Partition Magic 8. Why could
PowerQuest write a perfectly stable partition manager more than 6 years ago,
yet openSUSE still rely on a POS?

I have been trialling openSUSE for a few years now. Initially I was also
trialling Mandrake (then Mandriva), Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu and Kubuntu, but
I settled on openSUSE as the best by a long chalk. Now I won't waste any
more time trialling distros with the same highly suspect partition
management - it never gets fixed, there is so much complacency in the
community - and since I loathe KDE4, if the only way I can get openSUSE with
KDE3 is by installing an old version (with said partition management
issues), I'll be giving up on ever being able to ditch Microsoft.

desnip

No offence.

Shane









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Old January 23rd 09, 02:08 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Shane[_5_]
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Perhaps of interest if not for amusement I note that VPC 2007
allocates as its default 128MB of RAM when creating a new XP system
compared to 512MB for Vista and 64MB for Win98.


I suppose that shouldn't surprise me, as I've thought defaults for earlier
systems were a bit conservative - the 64MB for 98 a case in point. In
keeping with the era I suppose, but I don't see why they don't update it.
Maybe there's no need, and I suppose they're sticking to what was the
officially recommended minimum, but it seems a bit pedantic.

I really must get more RAM. I really must get a new machine, not just with
more RAM - and more slots - but with a multicore processor. Even so, I have
tonight implemented the Start /Low dodge in an attempt to get VPC to run
fast but not completely tie up the CPU, and I was thinking of installing the
XP x64 trial I still have, and which still works - but you can't run 64-bit
systems in VPC, it comes drifting back to me (possibly on a cloud?).

VPC does seem to work okay in W7 - as I expect you know - but for the
display issue I mentioned. Every time you move from the host to the guest -
and click - the display in the VPC window blacks out, momentarily, sometimes
requiring the likes of clicking the guest Start Button or, better, Show
Desktop - to get it to redraw; though at one point - when installing O2K in
either Win 98 or 2000 - the Product Key screen remained behind subsequent
installation screens - so that at various points prior to the next restart
the User Info/Product Key screen would reappear!

I do like Libraries.

Shane


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Old January 23rd 09, 04:35 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
N. Miller
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On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:00:40 -0000, Shane wrote:

N. Miller wrote:


On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:40:00 -0800, mdwiaterski wrote:


what is the best way to update my intel gateway pc from windows me.
I know microsoft doesnt offer any upgrades for that specific program
but there has got to be a way to upgrade this pc to make it at least
partialy up to date. I dont have a lot of money and I am not a
computer wiz.


If you don't have at least 512 KB of RAM, forget about upgrading to
Windows XP. MS claims XP will run in a minimum of 128 KB of RAM; but
I have seen that dog, and it won't hunt.

If you can afford to bring the RAM up to at least 512 KB, and can
find a Windows XP Upgrade pack (used to be available for $99, but
very scarce now), you can upgrade Windows Me to Windows XP Home
Edition.


Norman, I ran XP on 256 MB RAM for a few years and it wasn't a serious
problem. One'd have to be running the sort of things that one wouldn't have
stuck with Me all these years if one were in the habit of so doing, for it
to become noticeable.


I have upgraded my HP Pavilion 6475C from Windows Me to Windows XP Home
Edition. I assure you, it would be intolerable, if I were using it for
general purposes. It is only tolerable because I can leave it running 24/7
with Mercury/32, and not have it falling over for lack of system/user/GDI
resources.

If I were going to try using that old iron for web surfing and email, and
nothing else, I would still upgrade the RAM to 512 kBytes. Or roll it back
to Windows Me.

--
Norman
~Shine, bright morning light,
~now in the air the spring is coming.
~Sweet, blowing wind,
~singing down the hills and valleys.
 




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