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Old May 30th 07, 04:33 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Lil' Dave
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Anyone out there manage to get 98/98SE/ME to work on a SATA drive? I get
numerous errors at boot time. One example is cannot find ifshlp something
with ME. Restored a working partition to the SATA drive that worked fine on
ide. SATA remapped as ide drive in bios settings.
Dave


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Old May 30th 07, 05:48 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
98 Guy
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Lil' Dave wrote:

Anyone out there manage to get 98/98SE/ME to work on a SATA drive?


Yes.

I get numerous errors at boot time. One example is cannot find
ifshlp something with ME.


Are we talking Windows 98, or Windows ME?

ifshlp.sys is needed for 98 to run. That is unrelated to your SATA
issues.

If the SATA drive is larger than 128 GB, and if you are re-mapping it
as an IDE drive, then you're going to have problems (the problem is
with the protected mode driver - ESDI_506.PDR.

If the drive is larger than 128 gb, then enable the RAID function from
your BIOS setup menu. Then install 98. After your motherboard
drivers have been installed, install the SATA / Raid controller
driver. At that point, you will have protected-mode (32-bit) access
to the hard drive. Prior to that point, your drive will be accessed
by Windows in "DOS compatibility mode".
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Old May 30th 07, 01:31 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Lil' Dave
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"98 Guy" wrote in message ...
Lil' Dave wrote:

Anyone out there manage to get 98/98SE/ME to work on a SATA drive?


Yes.

I get numerous errors at boot time. One example is cannot find
ifshlp something with ME.


Are we talking Windows 98, or Windows ME?

ifshlp.sys is needed for 98 to run. That is unrelated to your SATA
issues.

If the SATA drive is larger than 128 GB, and if you are re-mapping it
as an IDE drive, then you're going to have problems (the problem is
with the protected mode driver - ESDI_506.PDR.

If the drive is larger than 128 gb, then enable the RAID function from
your BIOS setup menu. Then install 98. After your motherboard
drivers have been installed, install the SATA / Raid controller
driver. At that point, you will have protected-mode (32-bit) access
to the hard drive. Prior to that point, your drive will be accessed
by Windows in "DOS compatibility mode".


No RAID on this motherboard.
Dave


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Old May 30th 07, 09:15 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
98 Guy
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Lil' Dave wrote:

No RAID on this motherboard.


Is the drive larger than 128 gb?

Can you turn off SATA-to-IDE mapping in the bios?


If the drive is larger than 128 gb, and if you must map the SATA drive
as an IDE (and you don't have a raid controller), then

1) your motherboard sucks

2) current thinking is that your drive will work fine until you've
filled it up to the 128 gb point. After that, any reads or writes
past the 128 gb point will wrap back to the start of the drive,
resulting in file allocation errors.

3) partition only the first 128 gb of the drive (leave the rest of it
as unallocated space).
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Old June 1st 07, 04:33 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Lil' Dave
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"Lil' Dave" wrote in message
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Anyone out there manage to get 98/98SE/ME to work on a SATA drive? I get
numerous errors at boot time. One example is cannot find ifshlp something
with ME. Restored a working partition to the SATA drive that worked fine
on ide. SATA remapped as ide drive in bios settings.
Dave


Nevermind, got it working. Gonna remove it though as the drive is 250GB.
Solution was roundabout, but simple. Connected the original ide hard drive
with ME on it to an Ultra133 TX2 card. Setup the bios to boot from that.
Hid the partitions on the SATA first, before booting. ME picked up the
controller and assigned a driver for it as ide controller. Couldn't have
been the original ide controller as the driver was already installed for
that. It already had the Ultra133 TX2 driver installed previously.

Anyhoo, just copied the ME partition over to the SATA as first primary
partition. Works fine.

Gonna continue to use ME on the Ultra133 from a removable tray-mounted hard
drive.
Dave


 




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