PCI Multimedia video Bus?

Does anyone know what this message means when I boot into my recent
win98se installation?. It says that it has found new hardware and does
not find a file for it. I enter all my cd's,mobo,win98,and modem cd's
and its still comes up and in device manager there is a yellow mark for
other devices.

Reboot to Safe Mode
Open Device Manager
Remove ALL Display Adapters
Remove ALL Monitors
Remove ALL error-flagged entries
Remove ALL entries in the 'Other Device' branch, if present
Make a note of all duplicated entries (post in your response)
Reboot to Normal Mode - Windows will reinstall the required drivers -
hopefully curing your problem.

If that doesn't cure it, then you may need to reinstall your drivers for the
motherboard and/or Video/Graphics card


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"korvette" wrote in message
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Does anyone know what this message means when I boot into my recent
win98se installation?. It says that it has found new hardware and does
not find a file for it. I enter all my cd's,mobo,win98,and modem cd's
and its still comes up and in device manager there is a yellow mark for
other devices.

"korvette" wrote in message
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Does anyone know what this message means when I boot into my recent
win98se installation?. It says that it has found new hardware and does
not find a file for it. I enter all my cd's,mobo,win98,and modem cd's
and its still comes up and in device manager there is a yellow mark for
other devices.

When you recently installed, the Registry recorded
the filepath for your "device drivers" including this
one -- so when Windows finds "new hardware" it
sets up the same filepath to collect the driver from
a CD. If for whatever reason this was not right,
the Registry still sets up that filepath (displayed
on screen) and waits for you to provide the CD.
What it does not directly tell you is:
(1) You may need to know the correct filepath
to the correct driver, i.e. its exact location in
/folder/folder/folder.
(2) When you know that, you can use the
BROWSE button to go right there. (Otherwise,
you may be lucky by trial and error.)

As Noel Paton recommended, remove this
device from / Settings / Control Panel / System /
Device Manager and reboot, to start afresh.
If you do not know the filepath to the correct
driver (a) write down what the menus seek:
if a Win98 file it may be in a .CAB file you
can locate; (b) then /BROWSE to that file.

If there is a special brand-name driver for
PCI multimedia video (a sound card function)
a near-approximation Win98 equivialent may
keep you running, while you later search for
the special driver. (The Registry will remember
only the original filepath, right or wrong, but
you can REGEDIT it when you know the
correct filepath.)

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

Noel Paton wrote:
Reboot to Safe Mode
Open Device Manager
Remove ALL Display Adapters
Remove ALL Monitors
Remove ALL error-flagged entries
Remove ALL entries in the 'Other Device' branch, if present
Make a note of all duplicated entries (post in your response)
Reboot to Normal Mode - Windows will reinstall the required drivers -
hopefully curing your problem.

If that doesn't cure it, then you may need to reinstall your drivers for the
motherboard and/or Video/Graphics card


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"korvette" wrote in message
ups.com...
Does anyone know what this message means when I boot into my recent
win98se installation?. It says that it has found new hardware and does
not find a file for it. I enter all my cd's,mobo,win98,and modem cd's
and its still comes up and in device manager there is a yellow mark for
other devices.

I removed all as above, except i cannot remove the video adapter. I've
tried to remove in DM, and the screen freezes. I did it in settings,
but it keeps coming back on its own. i deleted everything related to my
video drive maker in regedit...and still upon rebooting, windows says
it found a new devie adapter and it installs again, without giving me
the opportunity to stop it. Now I can only get into safe mode, but SM
won't allow installation.

Let's pull this from a recent similar problem:

"Noel8" removed wrote in message
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MEB wrote:
The OP has an inf file being accessed upon startup [install new
hardware]
which attempts to load the drivers/ re-register the drivers, yet has no
files available..

Work from there guys..


Just what do you mean by work with these guys? Could you be more
specific?

Sure, anytime a device needs a specific set of drivers OR modification of
existing drivers, an INF file is added to the %windir%\INF.
The OP MANUALLY deleted his drivers for the video, MANUALLY deleted the
registration entries, but he left the INF file for vVidia card in the INF
folder which Windows searches for device information.
Hence, the "install new hardware" finds the information it thinks it needs,
attempts to install/register the drivers, but there are no drivers to use.
Most INF files do not contain proper "failure" routines, therefore do not
"popup" a failure.
For this OP and thread, he left the INF\nvagp.inf, which contains setup
info for the card. Hence Windows believes it has the right drivers already
installed "somewhere" or the inf would NOT exist [or for general use - would
not contain the supposed info for the card/device).
This can also happen on failed un-installations, improper un-installation
routines, failed installations, and other like scenarios.

Following this [and I note this constantly in forums and threads] most
people forget that this manual un-installation may cause constant failures,
ghostings, double registration entries [example: new driver does NOT replace
the old setup INF, hence two version drivers may be installed causing
failures or improper functioning (both contain info for device functioning,
but use the functioning differently].

One can find this, at times, when another new device is installed, and one
checks the device manager, only to find the ! or ? or unknown device..
Windows finds dual drivers/devices for the same card or chip, or the old
supposed device and the new one, loads them both... e.g. one was already
"installed" though never properly (may not even show in device manager), new
installation brings both as installed and in conflict...
Using another example: USB device driver installed, however, another USB
device was already installed, but both use the same name for their INF file.
One losses functionality..
Another example: drivers are loaded using the same functionality base
driver INF, however, neither driver, or one of the driver's, do not properly
modify the base functionality (INF) [via PNF, bin, or other modification]
and/or registration entries.. conflict or failure occurs due to "crossed"
programing..

So, in this instance, to properly "manually" uninstall, the OP must have
opened the nvagp.inf, and any other setup file which might have made
modifications to the registry and system, and manually removed all vestiges
of the installation [same for any manual or failed un-installation] and then
removed the INF itself. This can be problematic, as the files may be "in
use".

To help avoid this, an installation monitoring program should be used for
ANY installations in case the installation's own un-installation routine
fails... I'll not list them as they have been addressed elsewhere in this
forum, though I now personally use Total Uninstaller [TUN].. and make an
export txt file for potential manual un-installations.

As a side note: the 81. version of the nVidia driver has problems with the
updated 9.0c directX, and the activeX restrictions Microsoft has imposed..
Anyone know if the older 71. does?

And in continuation for korvette:

Determine what your video adapter is.
Search the inf directory for the old/installed driver inf, making sure it is
not a base Microsoft file [check date of file].
Re-check your registry for old or re-written entries by reviewing the inf in
a text viewer while regediting.
Remove mentioned device specific files in the inf from system directories.
Delete the inf after ensuring entries and files are removed or non-existant.
Select the default driver per below:

MEB wrote 06-06-06:
Okay, perhaps there is a failure to understand what I presented previously
(see prior posts 06-04-06 and 06-05-06)..
Sorry if you were put off by the third person presentation; you are
apparently both Noel8 AND TonyB, am I correct?

To continue or explain:
QUOTE -
The OP MANUALLY deleted his drivers for the video, MANUALLY deleted the
registration entries, but he left the INF file for nVidia card in the INF
folder which Windows searches for device information.
Hence, the "install new hardware" finds the information it thinks it needs,
attempts to install/register the drivers, but there are no drivers to use.
Most INF files do not contain proper "failure" routines, therefore do not
"popup" a failure.
For this OP and thread, he left the INF\nvagp.inf, which contains setup
info for the card. Hence Windows believes it has the right drivers already
installed "somewhere" or the inf would NOT exist [or for general use - would
not contain the supposed info for the card/device).
END QUOTE

First make sure the card is fully seated, if a desktop or tower, by
opening the case and manually checking. Re-install the cover.
Check the bios/CMOS to be sure you have enabled "assign IRQ for video".
Make su SPREAD SPECTRUM; video bios is cachable; video memory is
cachable, are NOT enabled.
If AGP assign 1/4 MAXIMUM of total installed memory, check for proper
timings and other settings.
FORCE a reset of the ESCD.

Windows has a "memory" that says the nVidia driver was installed due to the
inf..
The load fails, and Windows does one of two things (at least, the most
obvious potential two):

1. It loads the default driver, but that is also not properly installed
causing lockup and/or failure to allow screen changes, adapter changes, or
perhaps, even the ability to use the "update driver" button.

2. nVidia driver load fails and Windows goes to safe mode attempting to run
the default driver but may have vestiges of the failed nVidia driver
interfering with it's loading.. the display fall back settings may have been
removed by manual editing or overwritten by the installation.

This might work to correct the problem as nVidia REQUIRES a "properly"
installed default adapter PRIOR to installation:

As you state or indicate, you can't get out of safe mode; copy the drivers
to hard disk in DOS mode with CD-ROM support, using your Emergency boot
disk. [this hard drive folder negates potential problems associated with
installations from CD-ROM].

In safe mode, if necessary, expand the self extracting nVidia 98 driver to a
folder (should default to NVIDIA) and/or try to use the update driver button
for the display adapter by directing it to the nvagp.inf found in the folder
you created. It will complain that driver changes will not take effect until
restart, do you wish to restart now.. do so. If, when attempting to install,
it complains that you already have a newer driver, change it anyway..

OR (if it will not allow the above)

In safe mode change the video adapter driver by reselecting/reinstalling
the default driver (Control PanelDisplay Adapters(what ever it
shows)DriverUpdate DriverNextselect - Display a list of drivers at a
specific location then NEXTselect - Show all hardwareChoose standard
display types - choose display that describes your adapter (generally -
Standard PCI graphics adapter - VGA) restart Windows.
You will have a properly installed "default adapter", which, from there,
may allow installation of the nVidia driver in normal mode. If not, return
to Safe mode and follow the above instructions this time choosing HAVE DISK
and point it to the folder where you expanded or copied the nVidia driver,
again directing to the nvagp.inf. This should install both the "fall back
info" AND the nVidia info properly back into the registry.

Your not done yet though. IF you have successfully entered normal mode AND
installed the adapter:

Use install "new hardware" to reset/re-write the info for hardware
installed. Run it through both "searches". Should not find anything, just
cancel when done. IF it does find something, take note of what it found (use
"Details"), determine if you have the device and let it install, if not,
install anyway to give yourself the opportunity to remove. Reboot to normal
mode.
Do not run anything. Immediately after Windows fully loads (no disk
activity or the hour glass goes away) go to Control Panel and check for
devices that are in conflict or should not be there. Write them down. If
errors occur while loading, write down what the errors are.
Shut down, restart in Safe mode and check for any ghost/phantom devices
and/or devices that should not be there. Remove them.
Restart in normal mode, if you want to be sure everything is now correct,
rerun "install new hardware" it should find nothing.. just cancel.
Now you can probably use your computer without too many problems (other
than the problems associated with the 81 nVidia drivers / DirectX 9.0c
updated, and ActiveX as restricted by Microsoft; which may cause lockups,
garbled graphics, or other problems.. thanks Microsoft, so nice of you to
"screw up" our computers AGAIN)

This can also generally be used for any other device problem..

Hope this helps..

"TonyB" removed wrote in message
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dadiOH wrote:
Noel8 wrote:

dadiOH wrote:
END PREVIOUS POSTS

"korvette" removed wrote in message
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Noel Paton wrote:
Reboot to Safe Mode
Open Device Manager
Remove ALL Display Adapters
Remove ALL Monitors
Remove ALL error-flagged entries
Remove ALL entries in the 'Other Device' branch, if present
Make a note of all duplicated entries (post in your response)
Reboot to Normal Mode - Windows will reinstall the required drivers -
hopefully curing your problem.

If that doesn't cure it, then you may need to reinstall your drivers for
the
motherboard and/or Video/Graphics card


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"korvette" wrote in message
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Does anyone know what this message means when I boot into my recent
win98se installation?. It says that it has found new hardware and
does
not find a file for it. I enter all my cd's,mobo,win98,and modem cd's
and its still comes up and in device manager there is a yellow mark
for
other devices.

I removed all as above, except i cannot remove the video adapter. I've
tried to remove in DM, and the screen freezes. I did it in settings,
but it keeps coming back on its own. i deleted everything related to my
video drive maker in regedit...and still upon rebooting, windows says
it found a new devie adapter and it installs again, without giving me
the opportunity to stop it. Now I can only get into safe mode, but SM
won't allow installation.

"korvette" wrote in message
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Noel Paton wrote:
Reboot to Safe Mode
Open Device Manager
Remove ALL Display Adapters
Remove ALL Monitors
Remove ALL error-flagged entries
Remove ALL entries in the 'Other Device' branch, if present
Make a note of all duplicated entries (post in your response)
Reboot to Normal Mode - Windows will reinstall the required drivers -
hopefully curing your problem.

If that doesn't cure it, then you may need to reinstall your drivers for
the
motherboard and/or Video/Graphics card


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

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"korvette" wrote in message
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Does anyone know what this message means when I boot into my recent
win98se installation?. It says that it has found new hardware and does
not find a file for it. I enter all my cd's,mobo,win98,and modem cd's
and its still comes up and in device manager there is a yellow mark for
other devices.

I removed all as above, except i cannot remove the video adapter. I've
tried to remove in DM, and the screen freezes. I did it in settings,
but it keeps coming back on its own. i deleted everything related to my
video drive maker in regedit...and still upon rebooting, windows says
it found a new devie adapter and it installs again, without giving me
the opportunity to stop it. Now I can only get into safe mode, but SM
won't allow installation.


"except i cannot remove the video adapter. I've
tried to remove in DM"

This sounds as if you attempted to remove the adapter in Normal Mode - NOT
Safe Moe, as you were told to do
Please follow the instructions properly.
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korvette wrote:
Does anyone know what this message means when I boot into my recent
win98se installation?. It says that it has found new hardware and does
not find a file for it. I enter all my cd's,mobo,win98,and modem cd's
and its still comes up and in device manager there is a yellow mark for
other devices.


Well, I finally got win98se installed and also installed a tv tuner
program which I thought was the reason why I was always greeted with
that pci multimedia video missing message.Well its still there even
though I installed the tv tuner which is working correctly for a
change. In DM its got the yellow mark under "Other devices" still. I
disabled in properties/driver, so I no longer get that message, but it
still appears in DM...I installed nothing else..so apparently it had
nothing to do with my tv tuner.

"korvette" wrote in message
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korvette wrote:
Does anyone know what this message means when I boot into my recent
win98se installation?. It says that it has found new hardware and does
not find a file for it. I enter all my cd's,mobo,win98,and modem cd's
and its still comes up and in device manager there is a yellow mark for
other devices.


Well, I finally got win98se installed and also installed a tv tuner
program which I thought was the reason why I was always greeted with
that pci multimedia video missing message.Well its still there even
though I installed the tv tuner which is working correctly for a
change. In DM its got the yellow mark under "Other devices" still. I
disabled in properties/driver, so I no longer get that message, but it
still appears in DM...I installed nothing else..so apparently it had
nothing to do with my tv tuner.


Sheeesht!! - NOW he tells us about a TV Tuner!!

What's the make/model??

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On 19 Jun 2006 12:34:21 -0700, "korvette" put
finger to keyboard and composed:

korvette wrote:
Does anyone know what this message means when I boot into my recent
win98se installation?. It says that it has found new hardware and does
not find a file for it. I enter all my cd's,mobo,win98,and modem cd's
and its still comes up and in device manager there is a yellow mark for
other devices.


Well, I finally got win98se installed and also installed a tv tuner
program which I thought was the reason why I was always greeted with
that pci multimedia video missing message.Well its still there even
though I installed the tv tuner which is working correctly for a
change. In DM its got the yellow mark under "Other devices" still. I
disabled in properties/driver, so I no longer get that message, but it
still appears in DM...I installed nothing else..so apparently it had
nothing to do with my tv tuner.

The Vendor and Product IDs for any unknown card/device can be
retrieved from the registry.

How to use Registry Editor to identify an unknown PCI device:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/298837/en-us

You can then refer to a database of PCI IDs to determine who made your
card/device:
http://www.pcidatabase.com/

You can also retrieve PCI device info using PCItree:
http://www.pcitree.de/

- Franc Zabkar
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Noel Paton wrote:
"korvette" wrote in message
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korvette wrote:
Does anyone know what this message means when I boot into my recent
win98se installation?. It says that it has found new hardware and does
not find a file for it. I enter all my cd's,mobo,win98,and modem cd's
and its still comes up and in device manager there is a yellow mark for
other devices.


Well, I finally got win98se installed and also installed a tv tuner
program which I thought was the reason why I was always greeted with
that pci multimedia video missing message.Well its still there even
though I installed the tv tuner which is working correctly for a
change. In DM its got the yellow mark under "Other devices" still. I
disabled in properties/driver, so I no longer get that message, but it
still appears in DM...I installed nothing else..so apparently it had
nothing to do with my tv tuner.


Sheeesht!! - NOW he tells us about a TV Tuner!!

What's the make/model??

Its a ATI usb tv wonder external unit...about 3 years old and its
working just fine..sorry.

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