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Okay! Here's what I did, Mike let me know if you know otherwise:
- I set MaxFileCache=524288 under vcache - I added line MaxPhysPage=40000 under [386ENH] To test this I: - opened N7, IE, MSWord and Macromedia Fireworks - while Norton, SpySweeper, a Fire wall, and an Update Reminder resides in my sys.tray Everything work beautifully. Except one minor glich, I can live with, IE took way to long to load the URL I Typed in. The initial load was fair, but when I typed in a specific address the connection was too long. It could have been the server on the other end. I'll try again, another time. As for now, I'm going to consider my problem SOLVED!!!! Hey, look at the time, and I haven't packed hubby's lunch for tomorrow yet. Thx much guys. ooooo (consider these my homemade chocolate chips cookies baked especially for the two of you - Jerry and Mike). - Ciao, "HiTekMom" wrote in message ink.net... Jerry, The MaxFileCache in my system.ini file under vcache did = to 524288 before I changed it to 512000. If that wasn't the problem, then what is your take on my getting a "Dangerously low resources" after have open 2 or more windows. Since I just changed the line to 512000 I have not yet tested the outcome. Meaning I need to open several apps being, N7, Outlook Express, IE and then I'll try Macromedia Fireworks. Before, IE ususualy freezes, Fireworks states "Internal Error" then shortly after that I receive a "Dangerously low on resources and ask that I specifically close one of the applications until I've closed them all. Then if I try to reopen any one app, I receive a "Unable to open, low on mem, pls close one or more apps [or something to that nature]" Thx - HiTekMom "Jerry" wrote in message ... As you have more than 1.0Gb of RAM you need to make more than one edit to SYSTEM.INI For RAM 512Mb [VCACHE] MaxFileCache=524288 For RAM 1.0Gb [386ENH] MaxPhysPage=40000 I used MaxFileCache of 524288 because that is the binary value, using 512000 is decimal. And I used it when runningWinME on my system with 2.0Gb of RAM and before I upgraded to XP Pro. Jerry "HiTekMom" wrote in message nk.net... Mike, Thank you very much for your patience. I have printed your first response and am studying it. I am reading over the links that you've posted and am trying to get an understanding. I will follow the steps you have provided and will let you know the outcome. What freezes are my Earthlink mailbox and IE. I've since changed my mailbox to Outlook Express, but am using N7 instead of IE. Macromedia Fireworks refuse to open if I have several windows open, ie, N7, Outlook plus any more. I do understand the problems WinMe could have if I have too much memory. It's vcashing I need to learn more about. And thx to you I'm on the road to doing so. As far as my continuing to have the problem, you are right. Even though I've reformated my harddrive, I recently experienced the same error msg recv'd before the reformat msg: "Dangerously low on resources". Thx again, HiTekMom "Mike M" wrote in message ... What freezes? Can you provide some details as this is something you didn't mention in your original post. Again though I have to ask have you limited vcache to 512MB as explained in my earlier post? If not you are going to have problems. Period. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP [2001-2005] The Rascento Family wrote: Ron, My system reads, via MyComputer, Performance Tab: 1280.0MB. So, you are saying that even though I have over 1GB of memory, I'll still get freezes in some apps if I have too many open? |
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I'm sorry Ron, I just couldn't believe that there was nothing I could do.
Because all wasn't well. - Ciao "Ron Martell" wrote in message ... "HiTekMom" wrote: I'm running WinME and have 1.2GB of memory. Though my system recogize the full 1.2GB, when I run a mem in DOS the total conventional reads 640K with 580K Free. In the Extended (XMS) column it reads 65,535K total with 1,309,26 Free. MS-DOS, including the MS-DOS emulator included with Windows Me, is not capable of using more than 64 mb of RAM and therefore that is all that is reported by the MEM command. This has no relationship to how much RAM Windows can use. Open My Computer - System - General and see how much RAM is being reported there. If that shows the full 1.2 gb (or possibly a few MB less if your motherboard has integrated video) then all is well. Good luck Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada -- Microsoft MVP On-Line Help Computer Service http://onlinehelp.bc.ca "The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much." |
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It is blustery and rainy here in Southern California with snow on the local
mountains so your chocolate chip cookies would go just fine with my afternoon cup of coffee. Glad to hear the problem was solved. The MaxPhysPage number for 40000 I got from someone at Microsoft a while ago. I tried changing it to see if things would get better or worse and on my ME sysetm I finally set it at 49999. (Don't have a clue as to why 50000 wouldn't work.) (Using the larger number resulted in more memory being available as shown when Control Panel System was invoked. Jerry "HiTekMom" wrote in message ink.net... Okay! Here's what I did, Mike let me know if you know otherwise: - I set MaxFileCache=524288 under vcache - I added line MaxPhysPage=40000 under [386ENH] To test this I: - opened N7, IE, MSWord and Macromedia Fireworks - while Norton, SpySweeper, a Fire wall, and an Update Reminder resides in my sys.tray Everything work beautifully. Except one minor glich, I can live with, IE took way to long to load the URL I Typed in. The initial load was fair, but when I typed in a specific address the connection was too long. It could have been the server on the other end. I'll try again, another time. As for now, I'm going to consider my problem SOLVED!!!! Hey, look at the time, and I haven't packed hubby's lunch for tomorrow yet. Thx much guys. ooooo (consider these my homemade chocolate chips cookies baked especially for the two of you - Jerry and Mike). - Ciao, "HiTekMom" wrote in message ink.net... Jerry, The MaxFileCache in my system.ini file under vcache did = to 524288 before I changed it to 512000. If that wasn't the problem, then what is your take on my getting a "Dangerously low resources" after have open 2 or more windows. Since I just changed the line to 512000 I have not yet tested the outcome. Meaning I need to open several apps being, N7, Outlook Express, IE and then I'll try Macromedia Fireworks. Before, IE ususualy freezes, Fireworks states "Internal Error" then shortly after that I receive a "Dangerously low on resources and ask that I specifically close one of the applications until I've closed them all. Then if I try to reopen any one app, I receive a "Unable to open, low on mem, pls close one or more apps [or something to that nature]" Thx - HiTekMom "Jerry" wrote in message ... As you have more than 1.0Gb of RAM you need to make more than one edit to SYSTEM.INI For RAM 512Mb [VCACHE] MaxFileCache=524288 For RAM 1.0Gb [386ENH] MaxPhysPage=40000 I used MaxFileCache of 524288 because that is the binary value, using 512000 is decimal. And I used it when runningWinME on my system with 2.0Gb of RAM and before I upgraded to XP Pro. Jerry "HiTekMom" wrote in message nk.net... Mike, Thank you very much for your patience. I have printed your first response and am studying it. I am reading over the links that you've posted and am trying to get an understanding. I will follow the steps you have provided and will let you know the outcome. What freezes are my Earthlink mailbox and IE. I've since changed my mailbox to Outlook Express, but am using N7 instead of IE. Macromedia Fireworks refuse to open if I have several windows open, ie, N7, Outlook plus any more. I do understand the problems WinMe could have if I have too much memory. It's vcashing I need to learn more about. And thx to you I'm on the road to doing so. As far as my continuing to have the problem, you are right. Even though I've reformated my harddrive, I recently experienced the same error msg recv'd before the reformat msg: "Dangerously low on resources". Thx again, HiTekMom "Mike M" wrote in message ... What freezes? Can you provide some details as this is something you didn't mention in your original post. Again though I have to ask have you limited vcache to 512MB as explained in my earlier post? If not you are going to have problems. Period. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP [2001-2005] The Rascento Family wrote: Ron, My system reads, via MyComputer, Performance Tab: 1280.0MB. So, you are saying that even though I have over 1GB of memory, I'll still get freezes in some apps if I have too many open? |
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"Mike M" wrote:
Whilst not usually required since Win 9x systems can handle up to 2GB of RAM I'm pleased to read that Jerry's suggestion of setting MaxPhysPage=40000 has helped solve your problem. Incidentally this has the same effect as your removing the two small 128MB memory sticks. Actually there is no documented instance of anyone using Windows 9x successfully with more than 1.5 gb of RAM installed. Use of the MaxPhysPage parameter is getting more common these days as more people are configuring systems with huge amounts of RAM to multi-boot Windows XP and Windows 98SE/Me. Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada -- Microsoft MVP On-Line Help Computer Service http://onlinehelp.bc.ca "The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much." |
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"HiTekMom" wrote:
I'm sorry Ron, I just couldn't believe that there was nothing I could do. Because all wasn't well. - Ciao Don't blame you for being concerned or for asking. We all learn by asking questions. Good luck Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada -- Microsoft MVP On-Line Help Computer Service http://onlinehelp.bc.ca "The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much." |
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Thanks for that info Ron.
I well understand that users are now running machines with much larger amounts of RAM than before - just think what 1.25GB might have cost even five years ago. I seem to recall I began testing Win Me with probably just 128MB of RAM although I know the PC I was using had 384MB by the end of that beta. What seems to vary though from system to system is the figure at which the use of MaxPhysPage is required. I was under the impression that this kicked in around the 1.5GB mark (as you mentioned) however there have been a number of recent posts including this one where limiting to usable memory to 1GB is required to fix problems. Perhaps in future it would be best to advise the use of MaxPhysPage=40000 whenever installed memory exceeds 1GB. Cheers, -- Mike Ron Martell wrote: Actually there is no documented instance of anyone using Windows 9x successfully with more than 1.5 gb of RAM installed. Use of the MaxPhysPage parameter is getting more common these days as more people are configuring systems with huge amounts of RAM to multi-boot Windows XP and Windows 98SE/Me. |
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"Mike M" wrote:
Thanks for that info Ron. I well understand that users are now running machines with much larger amounts of RAM than before - just think what 1.25GB might have cost even five years ago. I seem to recall I began testing Win Me with probably just 128MB of RAM although I know the PC I was using had 384MB by the end of that beta. What seems to vary though from system to system is the figure at which the use of MaxPhysPage is required. I was under the impression that this kicked in around the 1.5GB mark (as you mentioned) however there have been a number of recent posts including this one where limiting to usable memory to 1GB is required to fix problems. Perhaps in future it would be best to advise the use of MaxPhysPage=40000 whenever installed memory exceeds 1GB. Cheers, The problems with memory over 1 gb seem to be hardware related in some way, but nobody has identified the exact cause. There are instances where certain computers will not run with anything more than 1 gb of RAM unless the MaxPhysPage is set to limit usage to 1 gb; and other computers that run quite happily with up to 1.5 gb. And with the end of Microsoft's active support for Windows Me I doubt if anyone will take the time to seriously research the problem so as to identify the precise cause. Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada -- Microsoft MVP On-Line Help Computer Service http://onlinehelp.bc.ca "The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much." |
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