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  #71  
Old April 7th 08, 10:19 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.setup
Mike M
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Default New PC, ME with old BIOS

I did verify that I
can access msconfig but you haven't told me what to do there.


I explicitly stated the edit that is required to system.ini. Let me try
and remind you of what was in my earlier post:
quote
To limit vcache, open system.ini and add the lines
[VCache]
MaxFileCache=512000
/quote
--
Mike Maltby



William B. Lurie wrote:

Further news, Mike....maybe it will surprise you as it did me.
I connected the PC up again, with the partially-installed
drive as Slave, my main drive as Master, and rebooted, this time
asking to to go to the Slave. I started it up and F8 to the
98 HDD and it booted right into 98, Safe Mode. I'm hastening
to tell you this, although I expect that you'll have responded
to previous posting before you see this. I did verify that I
can access msconfig but you haven't told me what to do there.

Now I'm curious as to what will happen if I try Normal Mode...


  #72  
Old April 8th 08, 01:43 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.setup
William B. Lurie
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Default New PC, ME with old BIOS

Right you are. With all the messages, I had forgotten
that. So I went there, and with considerable difficulty I
managed to get it to look approximately as you describe.
In saving it and restarting, in Normal Mode it still gives
the same message and asks for Restart. I'll try to describe
how that entry in the system.ini file now looks:

[-] [check] (open folder sketch) [VCache]
[check] / and in a full rectangle MaxFileCache=512000

Where I show "/" above, it really looks like a tiny yellow pencil.
I haven't been able to make it look like just [VCache]
with MaxFileCache=512000
directly under it.
Did I do it correctly, and it just still isn't solving
my problem, or did I not get it right?

Mike M wrote:
I did verify that I
can access msconfig but you haven't told me what to do there.


I explicitly stated the edit that is required to system.ini. Let me try
and remind you of what was in my earlier post:
quote
To limit vcache, open system.ini and add the lines
[VCache]
MaxFileCache=512000
/quote

  #73  
Old April 9th 08, 12:24 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.setup
William B. Lurie
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Default New PC, ME with old BIOS

Mike M wrote:
I did verify that I
can access msconfig but you haven't told me what to do there.


I explicitly stated the edit that is required to system.ini. Let me try
and remind you of what was in my earlier post:
quote
To limit vcache, open system.ini and add the lines
[VCache]
MaxFileCache=512000
/quote


Mike (and Mart):
I think I just have to give up this quest.
I think you fellows have diagnosed every problem and I've
complied with all your corrections and I'm still not there.

About the vcache and 512M, I mentioned that I couldn't get
the line in system.ini to look proper (in my eyes), and that was
the last improvement I installed at your request.

The question of clock speed has elicited the following very
strong comment from Gary Terhune, who is another of the MVPs
who have been trying to guide me in this quest:
-------------------------------------------------------
I give up!

YOU ALMOST CERTAINLY CANNOT RUN ANY KIND OF WINDOWS 95, 98, 98SE, ME or
NT (maybe even 2000) ON THAT MACHINE! I can almost guarantee you that.
You need drivers and there are no such things. They've never been written.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com
---------------------------------------------------------
Win98 does boot and work gracefully in Virtual PC on this
machine. There are limitations to overcome if I have no
alternative to running it that way, but maybe I'll be able to
work around those.

If you fellows want to breathe a sigh of relief and drop this
Don Quixote-type effort, I'm agreeable, and appreciative of all
your efforts over this past several days and nights. But before
we go, please tell me, if you can, if there is a clean link to
whatever I should install after I have Win98 installed from my
original 98 installation CD, in a Virtual PC.....and before I
install Windows ME from my upgrade CD.......and what upgrades
to Windows ME to install after that. I can't find then on the
Microsoft Download Site.
  #74  
Old April 9th 08, 01:29 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.setup
Mike M
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It's a shame that you didn't give more details of the new machine from the
start as that would have saved a lot of time for all concerned. Use VPC
if you want to need to run 9x software which won't run in Win95 or
Win98/Me compatibility mode on a modern OS (XP or Vista). If you need usb
support, not that that much old software uses usb, then you might need to
use VMWare instead of VPC.
--
Mike Maltby
MS-MVP Windows



William B. Lurie wrote:

Mike (and Mart):
I think I just have to give up this quest.
I think you fellows have diagnosed every problem and I've
complied with all your corrections and I'm still not there.

About the vcache and 512M, I mentioned that I couldn't get
the line in system.ini to look proper (in my eyes), and that was
the last improvement I installed at your request.

The question of clock speed has elicited the following very
strong comment from Gary Terhune, who is another of the MVPs
who have been trying to guide me in this quest:
-------------------------------------------------------
I give up!

YOU ALMOST CERTAINLY CANNOT RUN ANY KIND OF WINDOWS 95, 98, 98SE, ME
or NT (maybe even 2000) ON THAT MACHINE! I can almost guarantee you
that. You need drivers and there are no such things. They've never
been written.


  #75  
Old April 9th 08, 03:07 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.setup
Mart
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Default New PC, ME with old BIOS

I think you've pretty well summed it up Mike - the devil is in the detail
although I think I did mention WinMe/motherboard incompatibility somewhere
in the thread. But once you went delving into VMWare and VPC - then being on
XPHome - I effectively wrote myself out of the script.

Mart


"Mike M" wrote in message
...
It's a shame that you didn't give more details of the new machine from the
start as that would have saved a lot of time for all concerned. Use VPC
if you want to need to run 9x software which won't run in Win95 or
Win98/Me compatibility mode on a modern OS (XP or Vista). If you need usb
support, not that that much old software uses usb, then you might need to
use VMWare instead of VPC.
--
Mike Maltby
MS-MVP Windows



William B. Lurie wrote:

Mike (and Mart):
I think I just have to give up this quest.
I think you fellows have diagnosed every problem and I've
complied with all your corrections and I'm still not there.

About the vcache and 512M, I mentioned that I couldn't get
the line in system.ini to look proper (in my eyes), and that was
the last improvement I installed at your request.

The question of clock speed has elicited the following very
strong comment from Gary Terhune, who is another of the MVPs
who have been trying to guide me in this quest:
-------------------------------------------------------
I give up!

YOU ALMOST CERTAINLY CANNOT RUN ANY KIND OF WINDOWS 95, 98, 98SE, ME
or NT (maybe even 2000) ON THAT MACHINE! I can almost guarantee you
that. You need drivers and there are no such things. They've never
been written.




  #76  
Old April 9th 08, 03:48 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.setup
William B. Lurie
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Default New PC, ME with old BIOS

I guess my last question is, after installing Win98
in my VPC, and upgrading to Win ME with my upgrade
CD, are there any fixes or improvements for ME, or was
it just perfect when released?

Mart wrote:
I think you've pretty well summed it up Mike - the devil is in the detail
although I think I did mention WinMe/motherboard incompatibility somewhere
in the thread. But once you went delving into VMWare and VPC - then being on
XPHome - I effectively wrote myself out of the script.

Mart


"Mike M" wrote in message
...
It's a shame that you didn't give more details of the new machine from the
start as that would have saved a lot of time for all concerned. Use VPC
if you want to need to run 9x software which won't run in Win95 or
Win98/Me compatibility mode on a modern OS (XP or Vista). If you need usb
support, not that that much old software uses usb, then you might need to
use VMWare instead of VPC.
--
Mike Maltby
MS-MVP Windows



William B. Lurie wrote:

Mike (and Mart):
I think I just have to give up this quest.
I think you fellows have diagnosed every problem and I've
complied with all your corrections and I'm still not there.

About the vcache and 512M, I mentioned that I couldn't get
the line in system.ini to look proper (in my eyes), and that was
the last improvement I installed at your request.

The question of clock speed has elicited the following very
strong comment from Gary Terhune, who is another of the MVPs
who have been trying to guide me in this quest:
-------------------------------------------------------
I give up!

YOU ALMOST CERTAINLY CANNOT RUN ANY KIND OF WINDOWS 95, 98, 98SE, ME
or NT (maybe even 2000) ON THAT MACHINE! I can almost guarantee you
that. You need drivers and there are no such things. They've never
been written.



  #77  
Old April 9th 08, 04:56 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.setup
Mike M
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Default New PC, ME with old BIOS

William B. Lurie wrote:

I guess my last question is, after installing Win98
in my VPC, and upgrading to Win ME with my upgrade
CD, are there any fixes or improvements for ME, or was
it just perfect when released?


290700 is essential for system restore to work and I would personally
advise you install all the critical patches that are available for Win Me
from the Windows Update site including IE 6 SP1 but whether you move from
WMP7 to WMP9 is very much up to you. If you have problems in installing
any of these patches or you find that installing one breaks things, for
example you are suddenly unable to access Help without encountering an
error post back and either Mart or myself will try and help you out.
--
Mike Maltby





  #78  
Old April 9th 08, 05:33 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.setup
William B. Lurie
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Default New PC, ME with old BIOS

Mike M wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:

I guess my last question is, after installing Win98
in my VPC, and upgrading to Win ME with my upgrade
CD, are there any fixes or improvements for ME, or was
it just perfect when released?


290700 is essential for system restore to work and I would personally
advise you install all the critical patches that are available for Win
Me from the Windows Update site including IE 6 SP1 but whether you move
from WMP7 to WMP9 is very much up to you. If you have problems in
installing any of these patches or you find that installing one breaks
things, for example you are suddenly unable to access Help without
encountering an error post back and either Mart or myself will try and
help you out.

Thank you, Mike. I now have my VPC with 98 running and
also upgraded to Win ME from my upgrade CD. I'll see if I can find the
patches for ME.
  #79  
Old April 9th 08, 05:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.setup
William B. Lurie
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Posts: 60
Default New PC, ME with old BIOS

William B. Lurie wrote:
Mike M wrote:
William B. Lurie wrote:

I guess my last question is, after installing Win98
in my VPC, and upgrading to Win ME with my upgrade
CD, are there any fixes or improvements for ME, or was
it just perfect when released?


290700 is essential for system restore to work and I would personally
advise you install all the critical patches that are available for Win
Me from the Windows Update site including IE 6 SP1 but whether you
move from WMP7 to WMP9 is very much up to you. If you have problems
in installing any of these patches or you find that installing one
breaks things, for example you are suddenly unable to access Help
without encountering an error post back and either Mart or myself will
try and help you out.

Thank you, Mike. I now have my VPC with 98 running and
also upgraded to Win ME from my upgrade CD. I'll see if I can find the
patches for ME.

Mike, already I need help. I went to Microsoft website and first
found that I needed to be there via IE, not my usual Mozilla.
So I went via IE7 and tried to find the downloads for ME. I
kept getting to where it tested my machine to see what I needed
but I didn't need to know what's available for my XP but for ME
.....and in my VPC (ME) I had no intention of going online.
So please tell me, do I HAVE to install and activate Internet
software in my VPC ME in order to get the ME Upgrades? Isn't
there a way I can download them while online here in XP, save
them and install them in ME when I go there?
  #80  
Old April 9th 08, 06:42 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.setup
Mike M
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Default New PC, ME with old BIOS

You can only obtain updates from the Windows Update site using the PC to
be updated. For the last year or so you can only obtain updates for Win
9x systems from the Windows Update Catalogue site using a Win 9x system.
XP and later systems go to a more recent version of the Windows Update
Catalogue site that has no Win 9x content.
--
Mike Maltby



William B. Lurie wrote:

Mike, already I need help. I went to Microsoft website and first
found that I needed to be there via IE, not my usual Mozilla.
So I went via IE7 and tried to find the downloads for ME. I
kept getting to where it tested my machine to see what I needed
but I didn't need to know what's available for my XP but for ME
....and in my VPC (ME) I had no intention of going online.
So please tell me, do I HAVE to install and activate Internet
software in my VPC ME in order to get the ME Upgrades? Isn't
there a way I can download them while online here in XP, save
them and install them in ME when I go there?


 




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