Entire Network Neighbourhood dissappears after refreshing the view

I am not running any firewall s/w at all.
I tried the Browser master thing but it did not work. But in the process of
doing so
I found out the problem has something to do with the 3 Win XP's on the
network.
I had NetBIOS enabled on them and when they were on the network I had my
original problem with the win98's. When I removed them form the network, the
win98's were perfect.

I then disabled NetBIOS on the XP's, and the Win98's can now always see only
ten other computers. They can see them over and over again, so it is
different to my original problem, but now I can only ever see 10 others, when
I want to see all.
Anyone know a fix for the XP's or Win98's to let them see all instead of the
10 PC limit I am getting?

"Haggis" wrote:


"Robert O'Connell" wrote in
message ...
I haven't actually tried disabling the broser function, on auto or enabled,
I'll try that.
Just in case that isn't a fix, anything else I coud try?

Haggis" wrote:


"Robert O'Connell" wrote in
message ...
I have a client with a network with 22 Windows 98SE computers. When they
start up first, and you open "Network Neighbourhood", you can see all
the
pc's listed, and all the XP machines, and the "Entire Network" icon.
If I refresh the view, or go into the "Entire Network" icon or one of
the
pc's, when I go back, the whole newtork is gone, absolutley nothing.
closing down and reopening network neighbourhood doen't fix it.
The only thing that gets it back is restarting the computer, and ten
you
have it only once again, so not really a fix.

I'm sure this is setting somewhere or something I need to add into
Win98Se,
but what?

In network properties I have:
Client for MS networks
Dial Up adapter
the Network adapter
File & Printer sharing for MS
TCP//IP
NetBEUI

Is there anything I'm missing?
TCP/IP is using DHCP and works fine, it's just the network browsing. I
tried
setting the Master Browser of one of the PC's, but still the same
problem.

any solution?

--

--
MCSE 2000

you could disable the browser on all but one XP machine...then there
would
be no "master browser selection" issues




are you running firewall of any kind ...antivirus ?

have a look at #4 and #5 on this page ...might have something to do with
it..
http://www.careyholzman.com/

"Robert O'Connell" wrote in
message ...
I am not running any firewall s/w at all.
I tried the Browser master thing but it did not work. But in the process
of
doing so
I found out the problem has something to do with the 3 Win XP's on the
network.
I had NetBIOS enabled on them and when they were on the network I had my
original problem with the win98's. When I removed them form the network,
the
win98's were perfect.

I then disabled NetBIOS on the XP's, and the Win98's can now always see
only
ten other computers. They can see them over and over again, so it is
different to my original problem, but now I can only ever see 10 others,
when
I want to see all.
Anyone know a fix for the XP's or Win98's to let them see all instead of
the
10 PC limit I am getting?

snip

you are running TCP/IP and Netbeui .....do you need Netbeui ? filesharing
enabled on both ? filesharing on more than one protocol can cause some very
strange problems

"Robert O'Connell" wrote in
message ...
I am not running any firewall s/w at all.
I tried the Browser master thing but it did not work. But in the process
of
doing so
I found out the problem has something to do with the 3 Win XP's on the
network.
I had NetBIOS enabled on them and when they were on the network I had my
original problem with the win98's. When I removed them form the network,
the
win98's were perfect.

I then disabled NetBIOS on the XP's, and the Win98's can now always see
only
ten other computers. They can see them over and over again, so it is
different to my original problem, but now I can only ever see 10 others,
when
I want to see all.
Anyone know a fix for the XP's or Win98's to let them see all instead of
the
10 PC limit I am getting?

snip

you are running TCP/IP and Netbeui .....do you need Netbeui ? filesharing
enabled on both ? filesharing on more than one protocol can cause some very
strange problems

Well my aim is to have all the XP's and 98's seeing each other and I enabled
both in an attempt to do that. Is there a definitive list of settings I
should apply to get the two types of windows seeing each other. At least then
I can work on the "Ten PC's viewable only" problem.

"Haggis" wrote:


"Robert O'Connell" wrote in
message ...
I am not running any firewall s/w at all.
I tried the Browser master thing but it did not work. But in the process
of
doing so
I found out the problem has something to do with the 3 Win XP's on the
network.
I had NetBIOS enabled on them and when they were on the network I had my
original problem with the win98's. When I removed them form the network,
the
win98's were perfect.

I then disabled NetBIOS on the XP's, and the Win98's can now always see
only
ten other computers. They can see them over and over again, so it is
different to my original problem, but now I can only ever see 10 others,
when
I want to see all.
Anyone know a fix for the XP's or Win98's to let them see all instead of
the
10 PC limit I am getting?

snip

you are running TCP/IP and Netbeui .....do you need Netbeui ? filesharing
enabled on both ? filesharing on more than one protocol can cause some very
strange problems

Well my aim is to have all the XP's and 98's seeing each other and I enabled
both in an attempt to do that. Is there a definitive list of settings I
should apply to get the two types of windows seeing each other. At least then
I can work on the "Ten PC's viewable only" problem.

"Haggis" wrote:


"Robert O'Connell" wrote in
message ...
I am not running any firewall s/w at all.
I tried the Browser master thing but it did not work. But in the process
of
doing so
I found out the problem has something to do with the 3 Win XP's on the
network.
I had NetBIOS enabled on them and when they were on the network I had my
original problem with the win98's. When I removed them form the network,
the
win98's were perfect.

I then disabled NetBIOS on the XP's, and the Win98's can now always see
only
ten other computers. They can see them over and over again, so it is
different to my original problem, but now I can only ever see 10 others,
when
I want to see all.
Anyone know a fix for the XP's or Win98's to let them see all instead of
the
10 PC limit I am getting?

snip

you are running TCP/IP and Netbeui .....do you need Netbeui ? filesharing
enabled on both ? filesharing on more than one protocol can cause some very
strange problems

"Robert O'Connell" wrote in
message ...
Well my aim is to have all the XP's and 98's seeing each other and I
enabled
both in an attempt to do that. Is there a definitive list of settings I
should apply to get the two types of windows seeing each other. At least
then
I can work on the "Ten PC's viewable only" problem.

"Haggis" wrote:


"Robert O'Connell" wrote in
message ...
I am not running any firewall s/w at all.
I tried the Browser master thing but it did not work. But in the
process
of
doing so
I found out the problem has something to do with the 3 Win XP's on the
network.
I had NetBIOS enabled on them and when they were on the network I had
my
original problem with the win98's. When I removed them form the
network,
the
win98's were perfect.

I then disabled NetBIOS on the XP's, and the Win98's can now always see
only
ten other computers. They can see them over and over again, so it is
different to my original problem, but now I can only ever see 10
others,
when
I want to see all.
Anyone know a fix for the XP's or Win98's to let them see all instead
of
the
10 PC limit I am getting?

snip

you are running TCP/IP and Netbeui .....do you need Netbeui ? filesharing
enabled on both ? filesharing on more than one protocol can cause some
very
strange problems




I tried to find the satndard blurb that is used here ...(usually Steve
Winograd ) but since he hasn't jumped on....

here is his site which has alot of good info ...

very short version.......
recommended run TCP/IP for internet (no file sharing)
use IPX with Netbios enabled for file sharing

a ton more troubleshooting on that site ..have a read

"Robert O'Connell" wrote in
message ...
Well my aim is to have all the XP's and 98's seeing each other and I
enabled
both in an attempt to do that. Is there a definitive list of settings I
should apply to get the two types of windows seeing each other. At least
then
I can work on the "Ten PC's viewable only" problem.

"Haggis" wrote:


"Robert O'Connell" wrote in
message ...
I am not running any firewall s/w at all.
I tried the Browser master thing but it did not work. But in the
process
of
doing so
I found out the problem has something to do with the 3 Win XP's on the
network.
I had NetBIOS enabled on them and when they were on the network I had
my
original problem with the win98's. When I removed them form the
network,
the
win98's were perfect.

I then disabled NetBIOS on the XP's, and the Win98's can now always see
only
ten other computers. They can see them over and over again, so it is
different to my original problem, but now I can only ever see 10
others,
when
I want to see all.
Anyone know a fix for the XP's or Win98's to let them see all instead
of
the
10 PC limit I am getting?

snip

you are running TCP/IP and Netbeui .....do you need Netbeui ? filesharing
enabled on both ? filesharing on more than one protocol can cause some
very
strange problems




I tried to find the satndard blurb that is used here ...(usually Steve
Winograd ) but since he hasn't jumped on....

here is his site which has alot of good info ...

very short version.......
recommended run TCP/IP for internet (no file sharing)
use IPX with Netbios enabled for file sharing

a ton more troubleshooting on that site ..have a read

"Haggis" wrote in message
...

"Robert O'Connell" wrote in
message ...
Well my aim is to have all the XP's and 98's seeing each other and I
enabled
both in an attempt to do that. Is there a definitive list of settings I
should apply to get the two types of windows seeing each other. At least
then
I can work on the "Ten PC's viewable only" problem.

"Haggis" wrote:


"Robert O'Connell" wrote in
message ...
I am not running any firewall s/w at all.
I tried the Browser master thing but it did not work. But in the
process
of
doing so
I found out the problem has something to do with the 3 Win XP's on the
network.
I had NetBIOS enabled on them and when they were on the network I had
my
original problem with the win98's. When I removed them form the
network,
the
win98's were perfect.

I then disabled NetBIOS on the XP's, and the Win98's can now always
see
only
ten other computers. They can see them over and over again, so it is
different to my original problem, but now I can only ever see 10
others,
when
I want to see all.
Anyone know a fix for the XP's or Win98's to let them see all instead
of
the
10 PC limit I am getting?

snip

you are running TCP/IP and Netbeui .....do you need Netbeui ?
filesharing
enabled on both ? filesharing on more than one protocol can cause some
very
strange problems




I tried to find the satndard blurb that is used here ...(usually Steve
Winograd ) but since he hasn't jumped on....

here is his site which has alot of good info ...

very short version.......
recommended run TCP/IP for internet (no file sharing)
use IPX with Netbios enabled for file sharing

a ton more troubleshooting on that site ..have a read

oops

http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

"Haggis" wrote in message
...

"Robert O'Connell" wrote in
message ...
Well my aim is to have all the XP's and 98's seeing each other and I
enabled
both in an attempt to do that. Is there a definitive list of settings I
should apply to get the two types of windows seeing each other. At least
then
I can work on the "Ten PC's viewable only" problem.

"Haggis" wrote:


"Robert O'Connell" wrote in
message ...
I am not running any firewall s/w at all.
I tried the Browser master thing but it did not work. But in the
process
of
doing so
I found out the problem has something to do with the 3 Win XP's on the
network.
I had NetBIOS enabled on them and when they were on the network I had
my
original problem with the win98's. When I removed them form the
network,
the
win98's were perfect.

I then disabled NetBIOS on the XP's, and the Win98's can now always
see
only
ten other computers. They can see them over and over again, so it is
different to my original problem, but now I can only ever see 10
others,
when
I want to see all.
Anyone know a fix for the XP's or Win98's to let them see all instead
of
the
10 PC limit I am getting?

snip

you are running TCP/IP and Netbeui .....do you need Netbeui ?
filesharing
enabled on both ? filesharing on more than one protocol can cause some
very
strange problems




I tried to find the satndard blurb that is used here ...(usually Steve
Winograd ) but since he hasn't jumped on....

here is his site which has alot of good info ...

very short version.......
recommended run TCP/IP for internet (no file sharing)
use IPX with Netbios enabled for file sharing

a ton more troubleshooting on that site ..have a read

oops

http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm