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Old August 19th 04, 04:38 AM
Ron
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Default Clean Disk Install of Windows 98SE from Upgrade Disk

Is it possible to do a clean disk install with the Windows
98SE Upgrade disk?
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Old August 19th 04, 06:34 AM
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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 20:38:35 -0700, "Ron"
wrote:

Is it possible to do a clean disk install with the Windows
98SE Upgrade disk?


Ron,

Yes. You will be asked for proof of a previous Windows. Put in your
Win98 or Win95 CD to verify that when asked.

If Setup tries to install into a Windows.000 folder or something
similar put your cursor in the little box and change it to
C:\Windows.

Your CDrom will probably be one drive letter higher due to a
temporary Ram drive being created by the Win98 Startup diskette.

Regards,

Bill Watt
Computer Help and Information http://home.epix.net/~bwatt/

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Old August 19th 04, 06:16 PM
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-----Original Message-----
On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 20:38:35 -0700, "Ron"
wrote:

Is it possible to do a clean disk install with the Windows
98SE Upgrade disk?


Ron,

Yes. You will be asked for proof of a previous Windows.

Put in your
Win98 or Win95 CD to verify that when asked.

If Setup tries to install into a Windows.000 folder or

something
similar put your cursor in the little box and change it to
C:\Windows.

Your CDrom will probably be one drive letter higher due to a
temporary Ram drive being created by the Win98 Startup

diskette.

Regards,

Bill Watt
Computer Help and Information http://home.epix.net/~bwatt/

.
Thanks Bill, but that leads to another question. On the

computers in question, I booted them in DOS, ran FORMAT and
inserted the Upgrade disk without being asked for the prior
documentation, i.e. the disk wasn't even recognized. I
them put the Windows 98 Full Edition disk in, loaded that
and then did the 98SE Upgrade.
Was my mistake not to have booted from the Win98 Startup
diskette?

Ron
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Old August 19th 04, 08:34 PM
Brian A.
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When you formatted the drive you had no drivers anymore, booting with a =
98 boot disk that has CD support would have done the trick.

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-----Original Message-----
On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 20:38:35 -0700, "Ron"
wrote:

Is it possible to do a clean disk install with the Windows
98SE Upgrade disk?


Ron,

Yes. You will be asked for proof of a previous Windows.

Put in your
Win98 or Win95 CD to verify that when asked.

If Setup tries to install into a Windows.000 folder or

something
similar put your cursor in the little box and change it to
C:\Windows.

Your CDrom will probably be one drive letter higher due to a
temporary Ram drive being created by the Win98 Startup

diskette.

Regards,

Bill Watt =20
Computer Help and Information http://home.epix.net/~bwatt/

.
Thanks Bill, but that leads to another question. On the

computers in question, I booted them in DOS, ran FORMAT and
inserted the Upgrade disk without being asked for the prior
documentation, i.e. the disk wasn't even recognized. I
them put the Windows 98 Full Edition disk in, loaded that
and then did the 98SE Upgrade.
Was my mistake not to have booted from the Win98 Startup
diskette?
=20
Ron

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Old August 19th 04, 09:25 PM
PCR
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You want to do a FRESH Install? Are you pure Windows or OEM, such as
Compaq? If you are OEM, then you can get back to factory condition by
using their recovery CD, such as QuickRestore, which may contain
proprietary drivers and add-ons. Otherwise...

http://www.hexff.com/index.html How to Clean Install
This first has it all, but..
(a) Perhaps don't do the 2.5 swap file thing, &
(b) You may rather have multiple partitions, &
(c) Attend it's warning: Have any non-Windows peripheral drivers
available to install afterwards. Here...
http://www.pchelpandconsulting.com/links/windows.html WinDrvExpert
http://www.jermar.com/wdrvbck.htm WinDrvBckup free version
Those two supposedly back up all currently installed drivers, such that
they can be reinstalled. I never tried it but have seen a favorable
report.

http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/w98_restore.html Badour has one
http://aumha.org/win4/a/clean.htm Aumha has one
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=250928 How to Reinstall Windows
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=193902
How to Reinstall Windows into a new folder

"Setup.txt", located in the same folder as "Setup.exe", either on CD or
hard drive. This instructs how to run it from a folder on the hard
drive, but "hexff" says it better.
http://support.microsoft.com/default...71&Product=w98
"SU" Error Message List for Windows 95, Windows 98, and Windows Me Setup

Get a Startup Diskette from
http://www.bootdisk.com/ , if you don't already have one from "Control
Panel, Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab". Test the Startup
Diskette. Boot it, put in a CD and "DIR" the CD. It will say which
letter is the CD. (Otherwise, it is likely one letter higher than
normal.)

Here is what I know of those Installation CD's. The full list of
capabilities of each type of CD is as follows, says Harper. Each
requires a valid Product key. "Proof" means it must see you had a prior
version. So, if it isn't sitting there, expect to insert a floppy or
earlier CD.

FULL VERSION: Will perform either clean install or upgrade of existing
OS. Does not ask for proof of ownership of an earlier version.

UPGRADE VERSION: Will perform either clean install or upgrade of
existing OS. Will ask for proof of ownership of an earlier version if
one is not installed.

WIN98 SE UPDATES: Will only install if Windows 98 is present on the hard
drive. Cannot be used for a clean install at all.

OEM VERSION: Only installs on a clean, fresh-formatted hard drive. May
be customized to include or omit components that would be found/not
found on a retail CD.

Be sure of your ProductKey...
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion
ProductKey "12345-12345-12345-12345-12345"

(1) "START, Run, RegEdit"
(2) Click plus signs beginning at "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE", & ending with
"Windows".
(3) Click "CurrentVersion" in the left pane under "Windows".
(4) Look in right pane for ProductKey.

That is the one that was used to install your current Windows. Jot it
down, as it may work if different from the one on your Windows 98 Manual
or CD case.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

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| 98SE Upgrade disk?


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Old August 20th 04, 02:59 AM
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-----Original Message-----
When you formatted the drive you had no drivers anymore,

booting with a 98 boot disk that has CD support would have
done the trick.

--
Brian A.

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wrote in message

...

-----Original Message-----
On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 20:38:35 -0700, "Ron"
wrote:

Is it possible to do a clean disk install with the Windows
98SE Upgrade disk?

Ron,

Yes. You will be asked for proof of a previous Windows.

Put in your
Win98 or Win95 CD to verify that when asked.

If Setup tries to install into a Windows.000 folder or

something
similar put your cursor in the little box and change it to
C:\Windows.

Your CDrom will probably be one drive letter higher due

to a
temporary Ram drive being created by the Win98 Startup

diskette.

Regards,

Bill Watt
Computer Help and Information http://home.epix.net/~bwatt/

.
Thanks Bill, but that leads to another question. On the

computers in question, I booted them in DOS, ran FORMAT and
inserted the Upgrade disk without being asked for the prior
documentation, i.e. the disk wasn't even recognized. I
them put the Windows 98 Full Edition disk in, loaded that
and then did the 98SE Upgrade.
Was my mistake not to have booted from the Win98 Startup
diskette?

Ron

.
Thanks for the assistance. I'm anxious to give this a

try, will obviously save me time over the way I have been
doing things.

Ron
 




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