Show file extensions in WinMe

Hi everybody
When I go into My Documents, not all of the files shown display their
file extension. This is particularly true for .pif files.
Even right-clicking on the file, and bringing up Properties, shows
absolutely no information about the file extension.
(I only know it's a .pif file because of its association with a .bat
file of exactly the same name).
Is there any way I can get ALL of the file extensions in whatever
folder to reveal themselves?

Just as an addendum to the above query, I use the CRON utility for
scheduling events. The actual scheduling script goes into a file called
crontab.
However, no extension is shown for this file.
When I try to open it, I must force WinMe to open it with NotePad every
single time! The "Open with" dialog box has the "always open these
files with" check box grayed out.
Can anyone explain what's going on here?

TIA
Paul

Paul
WRT File Extensions - Folder Options | Tools | View
About 6th line down (under the Show Hidden Folders options, IIRC)
'Show file extensions....'

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Hi everybody
When I go into My Documents, not all of the files shown display their
file extension. This is particularly true for .pif files.
Even right-clicking on the file, and bringing up Properties, shows
absolutely no information about the file extension.
(I only know it's a .pif file because of its association with a .bat
file of exactly the same name).
Is there any way I can get ALL of the file extensions in whatever
folder to reveal themselves?

Just as an addendum to the above query, I use the CRON utility for
scheduling events. The actual scheduling script goes into a file called
crontab.
However, no extension is shown for this file.
When I try to open it, I must force WinMe to open it with NotePad every
single time! The "Open with" dialog box has the "always open these
files with" check box grayed out.
Can anyone explain what's going on here?

TIA
Paul

Noel Paton escreveu:

Paul
WRT File Extensions - Folder Options | Tools | View
About 6th line down (under the Show Hidden Folders options, IIRC)
'Show file extensions....'

Hi Noel
Thanks for your reply.
I had already done what you suggested and most of the file extensions
show when I open a folder in Explorer. However, quite a few don't and
this particularly include .pif files.
So, when I create a batch file and make some changes, both the .bat
file and another, with the same name, but without an extension (shows a
small MSDOS icon beside it in the details view of Explorer) show up in
the appropriate folder.
It can't be a big secret that the file without the extension is a .pif
file, but why doesn't the file exhibit its extension in Explorer?

I had earlier mention that the crontab file (for directing the
activities of the cron utility) does not show an extension under any
circumstances. So, when I want to open it, I must go through the ritual
of specifying that it is to be opened in NotePad but WITHOUT being
given permission to permanently make this assignment.
I presume this has something to do with the file extension of crontab
being unknown or unrecognized by Windows but this cannot be the case
for the .pif files.

Paul


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Hi everybody
When I go into My Documents, not all of the files shown display their
file extension. This is particularly true for .pif files.
Even right-clicking on the file, and bringing up Properties, shows
absolutely no information about the file extension.
(I only know it's a .pif file because of its association with a .bat
file of exactly the same name).
Is there any way I can get ALL of the file extensions in whatever
folder to reveal themselves?

Just as an addendum to the above query, I use the CRON utility for
scheduling events. The actual scheduling script goes into a file called
crontab.
However, no extension is shown for this file.
When I try to open it, I must force WinMe to open it with NotePad every
single time! The "Open with" dialog box has the "always open these
files with" check box grayed out.
Can anyone explain what's going on here?

TIA
Paul

Certain file extensions have never shown in Windows Explorer including PIF
and LNK (shortcuts). This is controlled by the presence of the string
value "NeverShowExt" in the registry key for the file type, in this case
HKCR\piffile
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Mike Maltby



PaulFXH wrote:

Thanks for your reply.
I had already done what you suggested and most of the file extensions
show when I open a folder in Explorer. However, quite a few don't and
this particularly include .pif files.
So, when I create a batch file and make some changes, both the .bat
file and another, with the same name, but without an extension (shows
a small MSDOS icon beside it in the details view of Explorer) show up
in the appropriate folder.
It can't be a big secret that the file without the extension is a
.pif file, but why doesn't the file exhibit its extension in Explorer?

I had earlier mention that the crontab file (for directing the
activities of the cron utility) does not show an extension under any
circumstances. So, when I want to open it, I must go through the
ritual of specifying that it is to be opened in NotePad but WITHOUT
being given permission to permanently make this assignment.
I presume this has something to do with the file extension of crontab
being unknown or unrecognized by Windows but this cannot be the case
for the .pif files.

There is a registry key which controls 'superhidden' extensions - but it's
one for each of the said extensions
You need to look for the related entry in the HK_CR hive - and delete the
NeverShowExt value (not just the data)
So - in the case of a .PIF extension, opene regedit
do a search for .pif - this will tell you that piffile is the default file
description.
Search for "piffile" - and when you get to the entry in HK_CR
you'll see the String value "NeverShowExt"
back it up by exporting it, and you can then delete it

A quick look at the crontab file that I downloaded shows that the "crontab"
file has NO extension - which is why you aren't given approval to make the
selection permanent.


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Noel Paton escreveu:

Paul
WRT File Extensions - Folder Options | Tools | View
About 6th line down (under the Show Hidden Folders options, IIRC)
'Show file extensions....'

Hi Noel
Thanks for your reply.
I had already done what you suggested and most of the file extensions
show when I open a folder in Explorer. However, quite a few don't and
this particularly include .pif files.
So, when I create a batch file and make some changes, both the .bat
file and another, with the same name, but without an extension (shows a
small MSDOS icon beside it in the details view of Explorer) show up in
the appropriate folder.
It can't be a big secret that the file without the extension is a .pif
file, but why doesn't the file exhibit its extension in Explorer?

I had earlier mention that the crontab file (for directing the
activities of the cron utility) does not show an extension under any
circumstances. So, when I want to open it, I must go through the ritual
of specifying that it is to be opened in NotePad but WITHOUT being
given permission to permanently make this assignment.
I presume this has something to do with the file extension of crontab
being unknown or unrecognized by Windows but this cannot be the case
for the .pif files.

Paul


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Hi everybody
When I go into My Documents, not all of the files shown display their
file extension. This is particularly true for .pif files.
Even right-clicking on the file, and bringing up Properties, shows
absolutely no information about the file extension.
(I only know it's a .pif file because of its association with a .bat
file of exactly the same name).
Is there any way I can get ALL of the file extensions in whatever
folder to reveal themselves?

Just as an addendum to the above query, I use the CRON utility for
scheduling events. The actual scheduling script goes into a file called
crontab.
However, no extension is shown for this file.
When I try to open it, I must force WinMe to open it with NotePad every
single time! The "Open with" dialog box has the "always open these
files with" check box grayed out.
Can anyone explain what's going on here?

TIA
Paul

Noel Paton escreveu:

There is a registry key which controls 'superhidden' extensions - but it's
one for each of the said extensions
You need to look for the related entry in the HK_CR hive - and delete the
NeverShowExt value (not just the data)
So - in the case of a .PIF extension, opene regedit
do a search for .pif - this will tell you that piffile is the default file
description.
Search for "piffile" - and when you get to the entry in HK_CR
you'll see the String value "NeverShowExt"
back it up by exporting it, and you can then delete it

Noel/Mike
Thanks for your replies and advice.
OK, so now the .pif files are showing their extensions on my computer.
I assume there must have been a good reason for MS to decide that PIF
files were better served by having their extensions hidden.
Anybody know what this "good reason" was and if I can assume there is
no "bad reason" for having them exposed?

A quick look at the crontab file that I downloaded shows that the "crontab"
file has NO extension - which is why you aren't given approval to make the
selection permanent.

Once again, is there any reason for creating a file without an
extension, particularly one that must be opened frequently to
orchestrate the activities of cron?

Thanks a lot again
Paul




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"PaulFXH" wrote in message
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Noel Paton escreveu:

Paul
WRT File Extensions - Folder Options | Tools | View
About 6th line down (under the Show Hidden Folders options, IIRC)
'Show file extensions....'

Hi Noel
Thanks for your reply.
I had already done what you suggested and most of the file extensions
show when I open a folder in Explorer. However, quite a few don't and
this particularly include .pif files.
So, when I create a batch file and make some changes, both the .bat
file and another, with the same name, but without an extension (shows a
small MSDOS icon beside it in the details view of Explorer) show up in
the appropriate folder.
It can't be a big secret that the file without the extension is a .pif
file, but why doesn't the file exhibit its extension in Explorer?

I had earlier mention that the crontab file (for directing the
activities of the cron utility) does not show an extension under any
circumstances. So, when I want to open it, I must go through the ritual
of specifying that it is to be opened in NotePad but WITHOUT being
given permission to permanently make this assignment.
I presume this has something to do with the file extension of crontab
being unknown or unrecognized by Windows but this cannot be the case
for the .pif files.

Paul


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Hi everybody
When I go into My Documents, not all of the files shown display their
file extension. This is particularly true for .pif files.
Even right-clicking on the file, and bringing up Properties, shows
absolutely no information about the file extension.
(I only know it's a .pif file because of its association with a .bat
file of exactly the same name).
Is there any way I can get ALL of the file extensions in whatever
folder to reveal themselves?

Just as an addendum to the above query, I use the CRON utility for
scheduling events. The actual scheduling script goes into a file called
crontab.
However, no extension is shown for this file.
When I try to open it, I must force WinMe to open it with NotePad every
single time! The "Open with" dialog box has the "always open these
files with" check box grayed out.
Can anyone explain what's going on here?

TIA
Paul

The only reason I can think of is that the program was probably written
originally in *nix - which doesn't have a task scheduler.

Why don't you use the Windows Task Scheduler for whatever it is you want to
do??


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"PaulFXH" wrote in message
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Noel Paton escreveu:

There is a registry key which controls 'superhidden' extensions - but
it's
one for each of the said extensions
You need to look for the related entry in the HK_CR hive - and delete
the
NeverShowExt value (not just the data)
So - in the case of a .PIF extension, opene regedit
do a search for .pif - this will tell you that piffile is the default
file
description.
Search for "piffile" - and when you get to the entry in HK_CR
you'll see the String value "NeverShowExt"
back it up by exporting it, and you can then delete it

Noel/Mike
Thanks for your replies and advice.
OK, so now the .pif files are showing their extensions on my computer.
I assume there must have been a good reason for MS to decide that PIF
files were better served by having their extensions hidden.
Anybody know what this "good reason" was and if I can assume there is
no "bad reason" for having them exposed?

A quick look at the crontab file that I downloaded shows that the
"crontab"
file has NO extension - which is why you aren't given approval to make
the
selection permanent.

Once again, is there any reason for creating a file without an
extension, particularly one that must be opened frequently to
orchestrate the activities of cron?

Thanks a lot again
Paul




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"PaulFXH" wrote in message
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Noel Paton escreveu:

Paul
WRT File Extensions - Folder Options | Tools | View
About 6th line down (under the Show Hidden Folders options, IIRC)
'Show file extensions....'

Hi Noel
Thanks for your reply.
I had already done what you suggested and most of the file extensions
show when I open a folder in Explorer. However, quite a few don't and
this particularly include .pif files.
So, when I create a batch file and make some changes, both the .bat
file and another, with the same name, but without an extension (shows a
small MSDOS icon beside it in the details view of Explorer) show up in
the appropriate folder.
It can't be a big secret that the file without the extension is a .pif
file, but why doesn't the file exhibit its extension in Explorer?

I had earlier mention that the crontab file (for directing the
activities of the cron utility) does not show an extension under any
circumstances. So, when I want to open it, I must go through the ritual
of specifying that it is to be opened in NotePad but WITHOUT being
given permission to permanently make this assignment.
I presume this has something to do with the file extension of crontab
being unknown or unrecognized by Windows but this cannot be the case
for the .pif files.

Paul


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"PaulFXH" wrote in message
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Hi everybody
When I go into My Documents, not all of the files shown display
their
file extension. This is particularly true for .pif files.
Even right-clicking on the file, and bringing up Properties, shows
absolutely no information about the file extension.
(I only know it's a .pif file because of its association with a .bat
file of exactly the same name).
Is there any way I can get ALL of the file extensions in whatever
folder to reveal themselves?

Just as an addendum to the above query, I use the CRON utility for
scheduling events. The actual scheduling script goes into a file
called
crontab.
However, no extension is shown for this file.
When I try to open it, I must force WinMe to open it with NotePad
every
single time! The "Open with" dialog box has the "always open these
files with" check box grayed out.
Can anyone explain what's going on here?

TIA
Paul

Noel Paton escreveu:

The only reason I can think of is that the program was probably written
originally in *nix - which doesn't have a task scheduler.

Why don't you use the Windows Task Scheduler for whatever it is you want to
do??

Noel
I have to admit I had underestimated the versatility of Windows Task
Scheduler and had overlooked the Browse button on the list of
schedulable tasks.
I have now set it up to run a small batch file at a specific time and
it works perfectly.
Thanks for this tip (although in retrospect it should have been obvious
to me).
Paul



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"PaulFXH" wrote in message
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Noel Paton escreveu:

There is a registry key which controls 'superhidden' extensions - but
it's
one for each of the said extensions
You need to look for the related entry in the HK_CR hive - and delete
the
NeverShowExt value (not just the data)
So - in the case of a .PIF extension, opene regedit
do a search for .pif - this will tell you that piffile is the default
file
description.
Search for "piffile" - and when you get to the entry in HK_CR
you'll see the String value "NeverShowExt"
back it up by exporting it, and you can then delete it

Noel/Mike
Thanks for your replies and advice.
OK, so now the .pif files are showing their extensions on my computer.
I assume there must have been a good reason for MS to decide that PIF
files were better served by having their extensions hidden.
Anybody know what this "good reason" was and if I can assume there is
no "bad reason" for having them exposed?

A quick look at the crontab file that I downloaded shows that the
"crontab"
file has NO extension - which is why you aren't given approval to make
the
selection permanent.

Once again, is there any reason for creating a file without an
extension, particularly one that must be opened frequently to
orchestrate the activities of cron?

Thanks a lot again
Paul




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Noel Paton escreveu:

Paul
WRT File Extensions - Folder Options | Tools | View
About 6th line down (under the Show Hidden Folders options, IIRC)
'Show file extensions....'

Hi Noel
Thanks for your reply.
I had already done what you suggested and most of the file extensions
show when I open a folder in Explorer. However, quite a few don't and
this particularly include .pif files.
So, when I create a batch file and make some changes, both the .bat
file and another, with the same name, but without an extension (shows a
small MSDOS icon beside it in the details view of Explorer) show up in
the appropriate folder.
It can't be a big secret that the file without the extension is a .pif
file, but why doesn't the file exhibit its extension in Explorer?

I had earlier mention that the crontab file (for directing the
activities of the cron utility) does not show an extension under any
circumstances. So, when I want to open it, I must go through the ritual
of specifying that it is to be opened in NotePad but WITHOUT being
given permission to permanently make this assignment.
I presume this has something to do with the file extension of crontab
being unknown or unrecognized by Windows but this cannot be the case
for the .pif files.

Paul


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"PaulFXH" wrote in message
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Hi everybody
When I go into My Documents, not all of the files shown display
their
file extension. This is particularly true for .pif files.
Even right-clicking on the file, and bringing up Properties, shows
absolutely no information about the file extension.
(I only know it's a .pif file because of its association with a .bat
file of exactly the same name).
Is there any way I can get ALL of the file extensions in whatever
folder to reveal themselves?

Just as an addendum to the above query, I use the CRON utility for
scheduling events. The actual scheduling script goes into a file
called
crontab.
However, no extension is shown for this file.
When I try to open it, I must force WinMe to open it with NotePad
every
single time! The "Open with" dialog box has the "always open these
files with" check box grayed out.
Can anyone explain what's going on here?

TIA
Paul

We all have our blind spots, Paul!
You seem to have cleared at least one of them, though
Good Luck


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Noel Paton escreveu:

The only reason I can think of is that the program was probably written
originally in *nix - which doesn't have a task scheduler.

Why don't you use the Windows Task Scheduler for whatever it is you want
to
do??

Noel
I have to admit I had underestimated the versatility of Windows Task
Scheduler and had overlooked the Browse button on the list of
schedulable tasks.
I have now set it up to run a small batch file at a specific time and
it works perfectly.
Thanks for this tip (although in retrospect it should have been obvious
to me).
Paul



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Noel Paton escreveu:

There is a registry key which controls 'superhidden' extensions - but
it's
one for each of the said extensions
You need to look for the related entry in the HK_CR hive - and delete
the
NeverShowExt value (not just the data)
So - in the case of a .PIF extension, opene regedit
do a search for .pif - this will tell you that piffile is the default
file
description.
Search for "piffile" - and when you get to the entry in HK_CR
you'll see the String value "NeverShowExt"
back it up by exporting it, and you can then delete it

Noel/Mike
Thanks for your replies and advice.
OK, so now the .pif files are showing their extensions on my computer.
I assume there must have been a good reason for MS to decide that PIF
files were better served by having their extensions hidden.
Anybody know what this "good reason" was and if I can assume there is
no "bad reason" for having them exposed?

A quick look at the crontab file that I downloaded shows that the
"crontab"
file has NO extension - which is why you aren't given approval to make
the
selection permanent.

Once again, is there any reason for creating a file without an
extension, particularly one that must be opened frequently to
orchestrate the activities of cron?

Thanks a lot again
Paul




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Noel Paton escreveu:

Paul
WRT File Extensions - Folder Options | Tools | View
About 6th line down (under the Show Hidden Folders options, IIRC)
'Show file extensions....'

Hi Noel
Thanks for your reply.
I had already done what you suggested and most of the file
extensions
show when I open a folder in Explorer. However, quite a few don't
and
this particularly include .pif files.
So, when I create a batch file and make some changes, both the .bat
file and another, with the same name, but without an extension
(shows a
small MSDOS icon beside it in the details view of Explorer) show up
in
the appropriate folder.
It can't be a big secret that the file without the extension is a
.pif
file, but why doesn't the file exhibit its extension in Explorer?

I had earlier mention that the crontab file (for directing the
activities of the cron utility) does not show an extension under any
circumstances. So, when I want to open it, I must go through the
ritual
of specifying that it is to be opened in NotePad but WITHOUT being
given permission to permanently make this assignment.
I presume this has something to do with the file extension of
crontab
being unknown or unrecognized by Windows but this cannot be the case
for the .pif files.

Paul


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Hi everybody
When I go into My Documents, not all of the files shown display
their
file extension. This is particularly true for .pif files.
Even right-clicking on the file, and bringing up Properties,
shows
absolutely no information about the file extension.
(I only know it's a .pif file because of its association with a
.bat
file of exactly the same name).
Is there any way I can get ALL of the file extensions in whatever
folder to reveal themselves?

Just as an addendum to the above query, I use the CRON utility
for
scheduling events. The actual scheduling script goes into a file
called
crontab.
However, no extension is shown for this file.
When I try to open it, I must force WinMe to open it with NotePad
every
single time! The "Open with" dialog box has the "always open
these
files with" check box grayed out.
Can anyone explain what's going on here?

TIA
Paul

On 7 May 2006 11:42:48 -0700, "PaulFXH"
Noel Paton escreveu:

OK, so now the .pif files are showing their extensions on my computer.
I assume there must have been a good reason for MS to decide that PIF
files were better served by having their extensions hidden.
Anybody know what this "good reason" was and if I can assume there is
no "bad reason" for having them exposed?

Do you see the .pif extension in Start Menu and Desktop? If so, that
would be one reason.

More serious is the failure to vet whether a .PIF really is a /PIF
before "opening" it. By design, a .PIF can be dangerous (e.g. can
parametise DelTree or Cmd /C RD to delete subtrees with no warning),
but this safety failure allows raw code to run when "opened".

So you have a file that shows no risk indication (.ext is hidden, and
it can set whatever icon it likes) that runs as raw code. Safe hex?

A quick look at the crontab file that I downloaded shows that the "crontab"
file has NO extension - which is why you aren't given approval to make the
selection permanent.

Once again, is there any reason for creating a file without an
extension, particularly one that must be opened frequently to
orchestrate the activities of cron?

It seems standard practice in UNIX, and has crossed over to NT (where
registry hives have no .ext). But the null extension is just another
extension, albeit one that (like .DAT) has no dominant role. It's
usually used for internal purposes only; why crontab uses it, is
something you'd have to ask chrontab.



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