MSVCIRT.DLL & MSVCRT.DLL Problem

Greetings,
I have a problem regarding a damaged, corrupt, or problematic .dll
file.
When I click on one of my usual programs I recieve the message as laid
out below; The below "symptoms & Cause" are from the MSkb.
( http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=296551 )
My main problem here is the very last bit of info they gave in regard to
fixing the problem, I have put it in CAPS, it is at the end of "Cause".
If one were to go on reading at the site, it continues to give a whole
blurb about SFC and its use on M.E, but I am a win98 user.
(both 'msvcirt & msvcrt' are currently in my sytem folder)

Any help greatly appreciated.

"SYMPTOMS
When you start your computer, you may receive an error message similar to
the following:
Msvcirt.dll file is linked to missing export msvcrt.dll : ??_u@yapaxi@z
Or, when you attempt to start a program, you may receive an error message
similar to the following:
The Msvcirt.dll file is linked to missing export msvcrt.dll
These error messages may be preceded by an error message similar to the
following:
drive:\Path\filename - a device attached to the system is not functioning.
When this occurs, you are unable to start the program."


"CAUSE
This behavior may occur after you install a program that overwrites either
of the following two Windows system files with an incorrect or previous
version:
Msvcirt.dll
Msvcrt.dll
This behavior may also occur if one of these two files is damaged or
missing.
Back to the top Back to the top
RESOLUTION
To resolve this issue, replace these files with new copies from your Windows
installation CD-ROM. To do this, "USE THE METHOD FOR
YOUR OPERATING SYSTEM."

Can that last post, I just looked further down the page on MS's site
and the instructions for Win98 were right there.


"paul" wrote in message
...
Greetings,
I have a problem regarding a damaged, corrupt, or problematic .dll
file.
When I click on one of my usual programs I recieve the message as laid
out below; The below "symptoms & Cause" are from the MSkb.
( http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=296551 )
My main problem here is the very last bit of info they gave in regard to
fixing the problem, I have put it in CAPS, it is at the end of "Cause".
If one were to go on reading at the site, it continues to give a whole
blurb about SFC and its use on M.E, but I am a win98 user.
(both 'msvcirt & msvcrt' are currently in my sytem folder)

Any help greatly appreciated.

"SYMPTOMS
When you start your computer, you may receive an error message similar to
the following:
Msvcirt.dll file is linked to missing export msvcrt.dll : ??_u@yapaxi@z
Or, when you attempt to start a program, you may receive an error message
similar to the following:
The Msvcirt.dll file is linked to missing export msvcrt.dll
These error messages may be preceded by an error message similar to the
following:
drive:\Path\filename - a device attached to the system is not functioning.
When this occurs, you are unable to start the program."


"CAUSE
This behavior may occur after you install a program that overwrites either
of the following two Windows system files with an incorrect or previous
version:
Msvcirt.dll
Msvcrt.dll
This behavior may also occur if one of these two files is damaged or
missing.
Back to the top Back to the top
RESOLUTION
To resolve this issue, replace these files with new copies from your
Windows
installation CD-ROM. To do this, "USE THE METHOD FOR
YOUR OPERATING SYSTEM."

Okay, I've had no replies to this post yet, so I thought I'd pop in
one last question before I go ahead and use the SFC and proceed to
replace the damaged mentioned files.

My question is:
"If a program or something I downloaded caused this, will 'that' program
still run after all is put back as it should be??"
Secondly, I've clicked on heaps of programs that I have loaded just to
see if they if they run, and they seem just fine..... in fact, the only
one
that is affected by this error is a Cad program I have.
Are there any reasons for this?

Thank for replies

paul

Extract a new file from the Win CD or the Cab files on your drive if
present, usually in c:\windows\options\cabs using SFC.



To extract a file using SFC:
Start Run, type in: sfc and press enter.
Place a tic next to "Extract one file from......"
Type in the name of the file and click Start.
Browse to or type in the path to where the file is being restored from, the
Win98 folder on the CD or where the .cab files are on the drive.
Browse to or type in the path of where to save it, in your case,
C:\Windows\System.
Click Ok.

For info on SFC:
http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/using_sfc.html

--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375




"paul" wrote in message
...
Greetings,
I have a problem regarding a damaged, corrupt, or problematic .dll
file.
When I click on one of my usual programs I recieve the message as laid
out below; The below "symptoms & Cause" are from the MSkb.
( http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=296551 )
My main problem here is the very last bit of info they gave in regard to
fixing the problem, I have put it in CAPS, it is at the end of "Cause".
If one were to go on reading at the site, it continues to give a whole
blurb about SFC and its use on M.E, but I am a win98 user.
(both 'msvcirt & msvcrt' are currently in my sytem folder)

Any help greatly appreciated.

"SYMPTOMS
When you start your computer, you may receive an error message similar to
the following:
Msvcirt.dll file is linked to missing export msvcrt.dll : ??_u@yapaxi@z
Or, when you attempt to start a program, you may receive an error message
similar to the following:
The Msvcirt.dll file is linked to missing export msvcrt.dll
These error messages may be preceded by an error message similar to the
following:
drive:\Path\filename - a device attached to the system is not
functioning.
When this occurs, you are unable to start the program."


"CAUSE
This behavior may occur after you install a program that overwrites
either
of the following two Windows system files with an incorrect or previous
version:
Msvcirt.dll
Msvcrt.dll
This behavior may also occur if one of these two files is damaged or
missing.
Back to the top Back to the top
RESOLUTION
To resolve this issue, replace these files with new copies from your
Windows
installation CD-ROM. To do this, "USE THE METHOD FOR
YOUR OPERATING SYSTEM."

Did you install the CAD application just prior to getting the error? If
so then it would be the most likely candidate as the cause of the issue.

--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375




"paul" wrote in message
...
Okay, I've had no replies to this post yet, so I thought I'd pop in
one last question before I go ahead and use the SFC and proceed to
replace the damaged mentioned files.

My question is:
"If a program or something I downloaded caused this, will 'that' program
still run after all is put back as it should be??"
Secondly, I've clicked on heaps of programs that I have loaded just to
see if they if they run, and they seem just fine..... in fact, the
only
one
that is affected by this error is a Cad program I have.
Are there any reasons for this?

Thank for replies

paul

Hi Brian,
no, i've had cad for donkeys years, but it seems as of yesterday when
I needed to use a part of its 'lisp math function' that I realised Cad
wouldnt open.

I am concerned as to why I am now in need of using SFC.
Could you give me some background on exactly what the two files do, or
are related to, ....... I mean, the ones I am about to 'delete' and
'replace'

Also, once sfc has extracted the said files to the C:\ drive, is there any
reason
why I cant just go into 'system' and rename the existing ones to 'old', then
simply 'cut and paste' the new ones to the system folder from the C:\drive?
(or are those two particular files still in use and hence cannot be messed
with during a 'current session'?)(and hence the need for the whole thing
to be done via pure Dos.)

Lastly, the only info I could get regarding why I am in this situation is
because I may have downloaded and exe'd a program which has
changed those particular files to some sort of earlier version.... I would
be grateful if you could elaborate, or just put me on the right track.

Unfortunately my printer is "on the fritz", but I have written out
instructions
for sfc as per.
I have no problems in following the instructions, yours and the ones from
the microsoft site, but I am the type of person who likes to do things once,
and do them correctly and understand why.

thanks Brian.

I found these at http://www.processlibrary.com which has been a very helpful
resource on several occasions.

msvcirt.dll is a module containing standard C library functions such as
printf, memcpy, and cos. It is a part of the Microsoft C Library

msvcrt.dll is a module containing standard C library functions such as
printf, memcpy, and cos. It is a part of the Microsoft C Runtime Library.



"paul" wrote:

Hi Brian,
no, i've had cad for donkeys years, but it seems as of yesterday when
I needed to use a part of its 'lisp math function' that I realised Cad
wouldnt open.

I am concerned as to why I am now in need of using SFC.
Could you give me some background on exactly what the two files do, or
are related to, ....... I mean, the ones I am about to 'delete' and
'replace'

Also, once sfc has extracted the said files to the C:\ drive, is there any
reason
why I cant just go into 'system' and rename the existing ones to 'old', then
simply 'cut and paste' the new ones to the system folder from the C:\drive?
(or are those two particular files still in use and hence cannot be messed
with during a 'current session'?)(and hence the need for the whole thing
to be done via pure Dos.)

Lastly, the only info I could get regarding why I am in this situation is
because I may have downloaded and exe'd a program which has
changed those particular files to some sort of earlier version.... I would
be grateful if you could elaborate, or just put me on the right track.

Unfortunately my printer is "on the fritz", but I have written out
instructions
for sfc as per.
I have no problems in following the instructions, yours and the ones from
the microsoft site, but I am the type of person who likes to do things once,
and do them correctly and understand why.

thanks Brian.

Paul,

If you have the 98 install/setup disk, with the OS up and running place
it in the CD drive.
Let it autorun and you will get to the main selection window.
Choose to Browse the CD click on the Win98 folder.

Look in Win98_55.cab for msvcirt.dll and msvcrt.dll.

For Win98: Take note of the Size and Date to compare with what's on the
system.
msvcirt -- 74,752 KB -- 05/11/98
msvcrt.dll -- 280,576 KB -- 05/11/98

For 98SE:
msvcirt -- 74,752 KB -- 04/23/99
msvcrt.dll -- 266,293 KB -- 04/23/99

To see the true file size on the system file right click the file and click
Properties in the popup menu.

If the files on the stystem do not match the ones in the CAB file they may
be corrupt, use SFC to extract new ones. The files present on the system
can not be renamed in Windows because they are being used.

--

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375




"paul" wrote in message
...
Hi Brian,
no, i've had cad for donkeys years, but it seems as of yesterday when
I needed to use a part of its 'lisp math function' that I realised Cad
wouldnt open.

I am concerned as to why I am now in need of using SFC.
Could you give me some background on exactly what the two files do, or
are related to, ....... I mean, the ones I am about to 'delete' and
'replace'

Also, once sfc has extracted the said files to the C:\ drive, is there
any
reason
why I cant just go into 'system' and rename the existing ones to 'old',
then
simply 'cut and paste' the new ones to the system folder from the
C:\drive?
(or are those two particular files still in use and hence cannot be
messed
with during a 'current session'?)(and hence the need for the whole thing
to be done via pure Dos.)

Lastly, the only info I could get regarding why I am in this situation is
because I may have downloaded and exe'd a program which has
changed those particular files to some sort of earlier version.... I
would
be grateful if you could elaborate, or just put me on the right track.

Unfortunately my printer is "on the fritz", but I have written out
instructions
for sfc as per.
I have no problems in following the instructions, yours and the ones from
the microsoft site, but I am the type of person who likes to do things
once,
and do them correctly and understand why.

thanks Brian.