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Old October 8th 05, 12:13 AM
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Hello tech gurus:

I just reinstalled all the SW in my Win98se PC from scratch and had it
working perfectly. Then I installed a new Belkin NIC in a PCI slot.
Immediately after doing this, I could no longer boot properly. The PC
would only let me boot into Safe Mode. I tried the following, but they
did not work:
Moving the NIC to different PCI slots and rebooting.
Trying another NIC of the same model to ensure it was not defective.
Reinstalling the NIC driver.

When I removed the NIC, once again I was able to boot properly. But I
really need this NIC because I want to start using DSL.
The PC is rather old but, on the other hand, I'm using an old OS, so I
don't think I'm overloading its resources. Here are its specs:
Pentium 200Mhz processor.
256MB of RAM.
40GB Hard Drive.

Please let me know what I can do to resolve this problem. Thank You.
Patrick

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Old October 8th 05, 12:54 AM
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Franc:

By "properly" I mean in Normal mode; i.e., no DOS-like screen asking me
to choose from a range of several boot-up options. And only one of
those options; namely, Safe Mode, allowed me to boot at all. If I
chose Normal from the list, it wouldn't boot normally, but would
restart again and go back to the same list of bootup options.

No, I was not aware of that non-existent DHCP server issue you
mentioned. But, now that you mention it, there were several occasions
when, instead of going into Safe mode, the PC would just show a blank
screen for about 2 minutes before finally completing the boot up.
This seems to describe what you just wrote about. If that is indeed
the cause of the hanging and the "Safe mode" problem, can you tell me
how to fix it? I don't recall having configured anything at all for
the NIC, so perhaps it configured itself incorrectly. The NIC is a
brand new Belkin F5D5000. Please let me know. Thanks

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Old October 8th 05, 04:06 AM
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I did actually try a different NIC. In fact, the first one I tried was
from Linksys, but I had the same problem with it.
Can you think of any other places to get an older NIC other than from
picking through the garbage?

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Old October 8th 05, 04:29 AM
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In Safe Mode, open Device Manager and see if you can change the IRQ settings for the
NIC to an interrupt not in use.
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I did actually try a different NIC. In fact, the first one I tried was
from Linksys, but I had the same problem with it.
Can you think of any other places to get an older NIC other than from
picking through the garbage?


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Old October 8th 05, 05:01 AM
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On 7 Oct 2005 16:54:29 -0700, put finger to
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Franc:

By "properly" I mean in Normal mode; i.e., no DOS-like screen asking me
to choose from a range of several boot-up options. And only one of
those options; namely, Safe Mode, allowed me to boot at all. If I
chose Normal from the list, it wouldn't boot normally, but would
restart again and go back to the same list of bootup options.


No, I was not aware of that non-existent DHCP server issue you
mentioned. But, now that you mention it, there were several occasions
when, instead of going into Safe mode, the PC would just show a blank
screen for about 2 minutes before finally completing the boot up.
This seems to describe what you just wrote about. If that is indeed
the cause of the hanging and the "Safe mode" problem, can you tell me
how to fix it?


Is the PC going into Safe mode by itself, or are you selecting this
mode? If it is doing it on its own, then maybe you have two issues.

I don't recall having configured anything at all for
the NIC, so perhaps it configured itself incorrectly. The NIC is a
brand new Belkin F5D5000. Please let me know. Thanks


Go to Control Panel - Network - Configuration - select TCP/IP -
your_ethernet_adapter - Properties - IP Address.

Your NIC is probably configured to obtain an IP address automatically.
It would normally obtain this address from the DHCP server within your
DSL modem. However, in your case the NIC waits until the DHCP search
times out, after which it chooses an IP address within Microsoft's
reserved range, ie 169.254.x.x.

You can avert this behaviour until you get your modem by choosing to
"specify an IP address". In my case I chose an address in the range
169.254.x.x and a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0. I used the same values
that were automatically assigned to the NIC by Windows after the DHCP
timeout. You can see these values by going to Start - Run and typing
"winipcfg".

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Old October 8th 05, 07:42 AM
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To answer your first question:
When I am brought to the screen that has the list of bootup options,
"Safe Mode" is selected by default, so that if I don't choose another
option, it goes to Safe Mode automatically. Thus, according to you, I
"have 2 issues". What are these 2 issues?

Can you please clarify the statement "[The NIC] would normally obtain
this address from the DHCP server within your DSL modem ." I don't
know what a DHCP server is. If this is "normally" what is supposed to
happen, does that mean my DSL modem is somehow defective or does it
simply mean it just doesn't work that way with the particular modem I
have?

Also, what do you mean by "You can avert this behaviour until you get
your modem"? I do have my modem. It was connected to the NIC at the
time that I booted up. It is a Westell, model 6100.
Thanks for your detailed response.
Patrick

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Old October 8th 05, 07:49 AM
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Glee:

The NIC was not using an IRQ that was in use by another device.
Device manager said, "No conflicts" regarding the NIC.

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Old October 9th 05, 12:11 AM
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On 7 Oct 2005 23:49:40 -0700, put finger to
keyboard and composed:

Glee:

The NIC was not using an IRQ that was in use by another device.
Device manager said, "No conflicts" regarding the NIC.


FWIW, here are a few ideas you might like to try.

What does "Start - Run - winipcfg - More info" tell you about your
NIC? Does winipcfg display an "Adapter Address", ie the physical
address of the NIC?

What do you see in the Configuration window in Control Panel -
Network?

You might like to see what happens if you boot to the command prompt
only and then type either "win /d:m" or "win /d:n". This gives you the
option of Safe Mode with or without networking.

WIN [/D:[F][M][S][V][X]]

/D Used for troubleshooting when Windows does not start correctly.

:M Enables Safe mode.
This is automatically enabled during Safe start
(function key F5).

:N Enables Safe mode with networking.
This is automatically enabled during Safe start
(function key F6).

You could also try selecting the "Logged /bootlog.txt" boot option.
Hopefully the log file will tell you where the boot process is falling
down.

Do you have any ISA cards? I ask this because I have a special purpose
ISA card in a 486 box whose jumpered (non-PnP) resources are not
detected by Windows 95. Such a card could give rise to an undetected
conflict.

Do you have a LAN chip on your motherboard? Some motherboards of that
era had a LAN chip but required an optional cable and slot bracket to
make use of it.

-- Franc Zabkar

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