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Old March 18th 05, 01:29 AM
Richard G. Harper
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Default How to upgrade to a larger hard drive?

Most new hard drives come with a CD or floppy with a utility that can copy
your old drive to your new one. If not the utility may be on the drive
manufacturer's Web site.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User]
* In fond memory ... Alex, you shall be sorely missed
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"Marco Desloovere" wrote in message
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I would like to install a hard drive with a larger capacity in my
Windows 98SE PC.
Right now there is one 30 GB drive in my PC and I would like to move
this to a 120 GB drive. I will remove the 30 GB drive physically from
my PC once the operation is successful.

I would prefer the new drive to be one single partition of 120 GB with
the 30 GB of data from the old drive and the remaining 90 GB being
free for new data. The new drive should be bootable.

A friend of mine suggested to use Norton Ghost from Symantec, but I am
now wondering whether it wouldn't be possible to do this operation
using the classic MS-DOS tools.

As I have never done this before, I am unsure of how to go about it.

I do believe that I first have to do "fdisk" to partition the new
drive and then "format new drive:/s".

So far correct?

Can I now just select all in the root directory of the old drive and
drag it to the new drive, or do I have to use "xcopy32" and if so,
which switches (and there are some!) do I need to use?

Thanks in advance for your help,

Marco



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Old March 18th 05, 02:14 PM
Lil' Dave
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"Marco Desloovere" wrote in message
...
I would like to install a hard drive with a larger capacity in my
Windows 98SE PC.
Right now there is one 30 GB drive in my PC and I would like to move
this to a 120 GB drive. I will remove the 30 GB drive physically from
my PC once the operation is successful.

I would prefer the new drive to be one single partition of 120 GB with
the 30 GB of data from the old drive and the remaining 90 GB being
free for new data. The new drive should be bootable.


This is why you can't use the drive copying software from the HD
manufacturer as the partition size will remain the same. I don't recommend
using one partition either. 8GB or less partition size is enough for
windows and applications. Your files, downloads, etc. should be stored in
an alternate partition or partitions. This makes organization of your files
easier.


A friend of mine suggested to use Norton Ghost from Symantec, but I am
now wondering whether it wouldn't be possible to do this operation
using the classic MS-DOS tools.


What you're considering is a filesystem level copy. This is iffy, even with
using xxcopy software. See google.com for xxcopy.

As I have never done this before, I am unsure of how to go about it.

I do believe that I first have to do "fdisk" to partition the new
drive and then "format new drive:/s".


You need to download the latest fdisk, if you insist on this.


So far correct?

Can I now just select all in the root directory of the old drive and
drag it to the new drive, or do I have to use "xcopy32" and if so,
which switches (and there are some!) do I need to use?


Filesystem level copies are iffy at best.
You need a partition (MS calls them drives) copying software, with
capability of increasing partition size after the partition copy to properly
achieve your goal.

Suggest you remove the 30GB HD, make a primary, active 8GB partition for the
operating system and applications. Make the remainder and extended
partition. Then, make one or more dos logical partitions within the
extended partition. Install the OS, and applications. Install the 30GB as
slave, tnen copy your files from the other HD to one of the logical
partitions. That is, if you are unable or unwilling to acquire partition
copying software with partition size decrease/increase capabilities.

Thanks in advance for your help,

Marco



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Old March 18th 05, 02:39 PM
Gary S. Terhune
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As Richard said, the disk often comes with utilities for his purpose, or
you use BootIt NG to do this job. www.bootitng.com

Not only to copy your existing partition to the new drive, but also to
repartition the rest of the new drive, and the old drive if you wish. It
is better to have just a system partition for Windows and applications,
no larger than 8GB, and put the rest of your files, including all of My
Documents, email storage, TEMP and Temporary Internet files onto
different partitions. If you want suggestions and detailed instructions,
jus ask.

When using a disk copy utility, like that in BootIt NG or fro the drive
manufacturer, no, you generally *don't* create a partition first. You
copy the entire partition onto free space on the target drive.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
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http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Marco Desloovere" wrote in message
...
I would like to install a hard drive with a larger capacity in my
Windows 98SE PC.
Right now there is one 30 GB drive in my PC and I would like to move
this to a 120 GB drive. I will remove the 30 GB drive physically from
my PC once the operation is successful.

I would prefer the new drive to be one single partition of 120 GB with
the 30 GB of data from the old drive and the remaining 90 GB being
free for new data. The new drive should be bootable.

A friend of mine suggested to use Norton Ghost from Symantec, but I am
now wondering whether it wouldn't be possible to do this operation
using the classic MS-DOS tools.

As I have never done this before, I am unsure of how to go about it.

I do believe that I first have to do "fdisk" to partition the new
drive and then "format new drive:/s".

So far correct?

Can I now just select all in the root directory of the old drive and
drag it to the new drive, or do I have to use "xcopy32" and if so,
which switches (and there are some!) do I need to use?

Thanks in advance for your help,

Marco


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Old March 23rd 05, 03:34 PM
Jack E Martinelli
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Partition planning

http://www.aumha.org/a/parts.htm
http://badour.freewebsites.com/html/partitions.html
http://www.newlogic.co.uk/kbase/fdisk/page1.htm
http://www2.cajun.net/~theriots/blk/...share_part.htm

PLANNING YOUR PARTITIONS
Version 3.6 — Revised January 29, 2005
http://www.aumha.org/a/parts.htm
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I recommend keeping the reformated original drive as the second HD in the
system, even if it is slow. Create a partition of ca. 2.1 GB at its head,
with 4 KB cluster size, and move the swap file to it to maximize
performance. The rest of the drive can be partitioned into several logical
drives, as desired, and used to archive personal files and as a backup
target for the OS partition, using backup software. This is a cheap and
fast solution.

The disk copy utility accompanying the new HD may permit you to adjust the
size of the new OS partition, but you will probably need a third-party
partition manager to do all that you desire on the new drive.
---------

"How to Use the Fdisk Tool and the Format Tool to Partition or Repartition a
Hard Disk"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];255867

"Order in Which MS-DOS and Windows Assign Drive Letters"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];51978
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Paragon Partition Manager and BootManager
http://www.paragon-gmbh.com

Powerquest
http://www.powerquest.com/products/desktop.html
Purchased by Symantec Dec 2003

Terabyte Unlimited
http://www.bootitng.com

V-Communications
http://www.v-com.com

Acronis
http://www.acronis.com/products/oss50
----

I have recently seen in several big box retail stores the excellent
Executive Software's Diskeeper Home Edition for only $US 20.00. This is
very good.
I also recommend Raxco's very good, Perfect Disk, as a alternative
defragmenter to your current MS tool. Both of these tools work far better
and faster.

Don't be overwhelmed. Read a lot first, and ask more questions here.
Getting the partitions right is very important.
--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm

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In Memorium: Alex Nichol
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
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"Marco Desloovere" wrote in message
...
Lil' Dave [Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:14:30 -0600] wrote:

"Marco Desloovere" wrote in message
.. .
I would like to install a hard drive with a larger capacity in my
Windows 98SE PC.
Right now there is one 30 GB drive in my PC and I would like to move
this to a 120 GB drive. I will remove the 30 GB drive physically from
my PC once the operation is successful.

I would prefer the new drive to be one single partition of 120 GB with
the 30 GB of data from the old drive and the remaining 90 GB being
free for new data. The new drive should be bootable.


This is why you can't use the drive copying software from the HD
manufacturer as the partition size will remain the same. I don't

recommend
using one partition either. 8GB or less partition size is enough for
windows and applications. Your files, downloads, etc. should be stored

in
an alternate partition or partitions. This makes organization of your

files
easier.


OK, many thanks to you and Gary S. Terhune.

Based on what you mentioned in your post I did some research in the
Internet and learned about things like cluster size, small partitions
and the time advantage of defragmenting these. The last time I
defragmented my 30 GB drive was 742 days ago. It took then well in
excess of 10 hours! Rather discouraging.

So I guess it's back to the drawing-board for me and some serious
reflection on how I'm going to organize my new hard disk drive.
In other words: Upgrading one's computer is technology hitting one
straight between the eyes...

Marco



 




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