Copy of Windows 98 Second Edition

I would imagine their are two newsgroup servers so if one goes down for
maintenance or becomes disrupted for any reason then posters can still post
at Microsoft newsgroups because there is another server but this is just a
guess on my part.

"~BD~" wrote:


"~BD~" wrote in message
...

"Dan" wrote in message
...
Thanks Dave for the correction.

This was meant to be light-hearted, albeit with serious undertones (for 98 Guy anyway!)

Maybe you can help me. I posted a message in the Microsoft security group earlier this morning in
'your' Source Code thread. When I checked just now (using Outlook Express) the message header had
a line scored through it and in the message box it said the message is no longer available on the
server.

Have you ever seen this happen before? Any idea why it might happen?

It is, however, still showing on Google Groups. I repeat it he-

(It was in response to FromTheRafters who said ....... )

"The transmission is textual - the protocol has no issues I am
aware of. Any security risk would probably be in the extensions
that allow this textual data to 'contain' malware - similar to the
e-mail protocols".

*

*


Hmmm! stroking chin!

What about when 'pictures' or photographs are included (including screenshots) - there's a term
for
that which escapes me right now! In other words, not in 'plain text'.


I once received a 'screenshot' as an email attachment (I'd asked for it to be sent to me). I
opened
the 'picture' (jpeg I think) and all seemed fine.


I then opened the file with Notepad (I do crazy things like that!). Wow! Inside that file, above
all the 'gobbledegook' one might expect, were *live* links to all manner of web pages ,,,,,,,, of
course I went and looked! grin


During my experimentation over the years, I've seen lots of SPAM (advertising the likes of Viagra
and Jewelry) - every one of those links shown in Notepad was, I'm certain, taking me to a SPAM
site!


I''ve been told that is impossible ........... yet I saw it with my own eyes! So there!


Any thoughts?


Dave


--


"Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message ...
All kinds of stuff gets immediately rejected or filtered out soon after it gets posts to the MS
server. There is generally no rhyme no reason for it. Fact is, nobody is in charge of the MS news
servers. What there *is* is an ad hoc group of people with differing and sometimes ridiculous
ideas about how to block SPAM and "objectionable" material, whatever they decide that is.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com


Gary - thanks for taking the time and trouble to respond. I've come to respect your expertise and
attitude. Thanks.

It took me a fair while to appreciate that the MS news servers were divorced from Microsoft itself
and that there is no moderation here, in general terms anyway. I'm quite certain that a very high
percentage of folk visiting the groups do so out of desperation - I know I did! I must have been
using Outlook Express for about 8 years before I became aware that it could be used for
participating in newsgroups in addition to use for email! Doh!

I have, though, always assumed that Microsoft funds the cost of running the servers. Can you confirm
that that is so? I did once question why there are two active servers - news.microsoft.com AND
msnews.microsoft.com. A historical 'quirk' I believe I was told.

I'm uncertain if you read right through my post. Have you any understanding of *how* live links to
web sites could be 'hidden' within a jpeg file? I'm happy for you to email me if you would prefer so
to do. Just let me know here and I'll give you my address. TIA

In the meantime, I'll try posting my message to FTR again and see what happens this time!

Dave

Dave

--

"~BD~" wrote in message
...
|
| "~BD~" wrote in message
| ...
|
| "Dan" wrote in message
| ...
| Thanks Dave for the correction.
|
| This was meant to be light-hearted, albeit with serious undertones
(for 98 Guy anyway!)
|
| Maybe you can help me. I posted a message in the Microsoft security
group earlier this morning in
| 'your' Source Code thread. When I checked just now (using Outlook
Express) the message header had
| a line scored through it and in the message box it said the message is
no longer available on the
| server.
|
| Have you ever seen this happen before? Any idea why it might happen?
|
| It is, however, still showing on Google Groups. I repeat it he-
|
| (It was in response to FromTheRafters who said ....... )
|
| "The transmission is textual - the protocol has no issues I am
| aware of. Any security risk would probably be in the extensions
| that allow this textual data to 'contain' malware - similar to the
| e-mail protocols".
|
| *
|
| *
|
|
| Hmmm! stroking chin!
|
| What about when 'pictures' or photographs are included (including
screenshots) - there's a term
| for
| that which escapes me right now! In other words, not in 'plain text'.
|
|
| I once received a 'screenshot' as an email attachment (I'd asked for it
to be sent to me). I
| opened
| the 'picture' (jpeg I think) and all seemed fine.
|
|
| I then opened the file with Notepad (I do crazy things like that!).
Wow! Inside that file, above
| all the 'gobbledegook' one might expect, were *live* links to all
manner of web pages ,,,,,,,, of
| course I went and looked! grin
|
|
| During my experimentation over the years, I've seen lots of SPAM
(advertising the likes of Viagra
| and Jewelry) - every one of those links shown in Notepad was, I'm
certain, taking me to a SPAM
| site!
|
|
| I''ve been told that is impossible ........... yet I saw it with my own
eyes! So there!
|
|
| Any thoughts?
|
|
| Dave
|
|
| --
|
|
| "Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message
...
| All kinds of stuff gets immediately rejected or filtered out soon after
it gets posts to the MS
| server. There is generally no rhyme no reason for it. Fact is, nobody is
in charge of the MS news
| servers. What there *is* is an ad hoc group of people with differing and
sometimes ridiculous
| ideas about how to block SPAM and "objectionable" material, whatever
they decide that is.
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| http://grystmill.com
|
|
| Gary - thanks for taking the time and trouble to respond. I've come to
respect your expertise and
| attitude. Thanks.
|
| It took me a fair while to appreciate that the MS news servers were
divorced from Microsoft itself
| and that there is no moderation here, in general terms anyway. I'm quite
certain that a very high
| percentage of folk visiting the groups do so out of desperation - I know I
did! I must have been
| using Outlook Express for about 8 years before I became aware that it
could be used for
| participating in newsgroups in addition to use for email! Doh!
|
| I have, though, always assumed that Microsoft funds the cost of running
the servers. Can you confirm
| that that is so? I did once question why there are two active servers -
news.microsoft.com AND
| msnews.microsoft.com. A historical 'quirk' I believe I was told.
|
| I'm uncertain if you read right through my post. Have you any
understanding of *how* live links to
| web sites could be 'hidden' within a jpeg file? I'm happy for you to email
me if you would prefer so
| to do. Just let me know here and I'll give you my address. TIA
|
| In the meantime, I'll try posting my message to FTR again and see what
happens this time!
|
| Dave
|
| Dave
|
| --

The JPEG/JGP issue was a matter of concern [and still is] several years ago
with numerous sites related and discussions in the forums. One could
reasonably state that the/those format(s) has(have) been used successfully
to do exactly as you indicate.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...ck&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...ty&btnG=Search


--
MEB
a Peoples' counsel
--
_________

"MEB" meb@not wrote in message ...


"~BD~" wrote in message
...
|
| "~BD~" wrote in message
| ...
|
| "Dan" wrote in message
| ...
| Thanks Dave for the correction.
|
| This was meant to be light-hearted, albeit with serious undertones
(for 98 Guy anyway!)
|
| Maybe you can help me. I posted a message in the Microsoft security
group earlier this morning in
| 'your' Source Code thread. When I checked just now (using Outlook
Express) the message header had
| a line scored through it and in the message box it said the message is
no longer available on the
| server.
|
| Have you ever seen this happen before? Any idea why it might happen?
|
| It is, however, still showing on Google Groups. I repeat it he-
|
| (It was in response to FromTheRafters who said ....... )
|
| "The transmission is textual - the protocol has no issues I am
| aware of. Any security risk would probably be in the extensions
| that allow this textual data to 'contain' malware - similar to the
| e-mail protocols".
|
| *
|
| *
|
|
| Hmmm! stroking chin!
|
| What about when 'pictures' or photographs are included (including
screenshots) - there's a term
| for
| that which escapes me right now! In other words, not in 'plain text'.
|
|
| I once received a 'screenshot' as an email attachment (I'd asked for it
to be sent to me). I
| opened
| the 'picture' (jpeg I think) and all seemed fine.
|
|
| I then opened the file with Notepad (I do crazy things like that!).
Wow! Inside that file, above
| all the 'gobbledegook' one might expect, were *live* links to all
manner of web pages ,,,,,,,, of
| course I went and looked! grin
|
|
| During my experimentation over the years, I've seen lots of SPAM
(advertising the likes of Viagra
| and Jewelry) - every one of those links shown in Notepad was, I'm
certain, taking me to a SPAM
| site!
|
|
| I''ve been told that is impossible ........... yet I saw it with my own
eyes! So there!
|
|
| Any thoughts?
|
|
| Dave
|
|
| --
|
|
| "Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message
...
| All kinds of stuff gets immediately rejected or filtered out soon after
it gets posts to the MS
| server. There is generally no rhyme no reason for it. Fact is, nobody is
in charge of the MS news
| servers. What there *is* is an ad hoc group of people with differing and
sometimes ridiculous
| ideas about how to block SPAM and "objectionable" material, whatever
they decide that is.
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| http://grystmill.com
|
|
| Gary - thanks for taking the time and trouble to respond. I've come to
respect your expertise and
| attitude. Thanks.
|
| It took me a fair while to appreciate that the MS news servers were
divorced from Microsoft itself
| and that there is no moderation here, in general terms anyway. I'm quite
certain that a very high
| percentage of folk visiting the groups do so out of desperation - I know I
did! I must have been
| using Outlook Express for about 8 years before I became aware that it
could be used for
| participating in newsgroups in addition to use for email! Doh!
|
| I have, though, always assumed that Microsoft funds the cost of running
the servers. Can you confirm
| that that is so? I did once question why there are two active servers -
news.microsoft.com AND
| msnews.microsoft.com. A historical 'quirk' I believe I was told.
|
| I'm uncertain if you read right through my post. Have you any
understanding of *how* live links to
| web sites could be 'hidden' within a jpeg file? I'm happy for you to email
me if you would prefer so
| to do. Just let me know here and I'll give you my address. TIA
|
| In the meantime, I'll try posting my message to FTR again and see what
happens this time!
|
| Dave
|
| Dave
|
| --

The JPEG/JGP issue was a matter of concern [and still is] several years ago
with numerous sites related and discussions in the forums. One could
reasonably state that the/those format(s) has(have) been used successfully
to do exactly as you indicate.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...ck&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...ty&btnG=Search


--
MEB
a Peoples' counsel
--
_________




Thank you so much for your reply MEB.

I'll spend some time reviewing those Google leads you have so kindly provided.

Dave

PS My post to FTR has 'stuck' this time!

--

"~BD~" wrote:

I have, though, always assumed that Microsoft funds the cost of running the servers. Can you confirm
that that is so? I did once question why there are two active servers - news.microsoft.com AND
msnews.microsoft.com. A historical 'quirk' I believe I was told.

The servers belong to Microsoft, they contract out the actual running
of them. There's only one server address, both domain names resolve to
the same IP address.

--
Tim Slattery
MS MVP(Shell/User)

http://members.cox.net/slatteryt

Posted this in the wrong discussion, my bad..

I should have added: The formats defined as JPEG/JPG [among a few other
formats] also allow the creator/author and other {identifying} information
to be included within the formats.
Web based images generally contain these types of information as well what I
previously indicated could POSSIBLY be included.
*Image search/indexing spiders* will/could access this information
increasing presence and other for the originators, and for tracking of their
usage.

--
MEB
a Peoples' counsel

--

"MEB" meb@not wrote in message
...
|
|
| "~BD~" wrote in message
| ...
| |
| | "~BD~" wrote in message
| | ...
| |
| | "Dan" wrote in message
| | ...
| | Thanks Dave for the correction.
| |
| | This was meant to be light-hearted, albeit with serious
undertones
| (for 98 Guy anyway!)
| |
| | Maybe you can help me. I posted a message in the Microsoft security
| group earlier this morning in
| | 'your' Source Code thread. When I checked just now (using Outlook
| Express) the message header had
| | a line scored through it and in the message box it said the message
is
| no longer available on the
| | server.
| |
| | Have you ever seen this happen before? Any idea why it might happen?
| |
| | It is, however, still showing on Google Groups. I repeat it he-
| |
| | (It was in response to FromTheRafters who said ....... )
| |
| | "The transmission is textual - the protocol has no issues I am
| | aware of. Any security risk would probably be in the extensions
| | that allow this textual data to 'contain' malware - similar to the
| | e-mail protocols".
| |
| | *
| |
| | *
| |
| |
| | Hmmm! stroking chin!
| |
| | What about when 'pictures' or photographs are included (including
| screenshots) - there's a term
| | for
| | that which escapes me right now! In other words, not in 'plain text'.
| |
| |
| | I once received a 'screenshot' as an email attachment (I'd asked for
it
| to be sent to me). I
| | opened
| | the 'picture' (jpeg I think) and all seemed fine.
| |
| |
| | I then opened the file with Notepad (I do crazy things like that!).
| Wow! Inside that file, above
| | all the 'gobbledegook' one might expect, were *live* links to all
| manner of web pages ,,,,,,,, of
| | course I went and looked! grin
| |
| |
| | During my experimentation over the years, I've seen lots of SPAM
| (advertising the likes of Viagra
| | and Jewelry) - every one of those links shown in Notepad was, I'm
| certain, taking me to a SPAM
| | site!
| |
| |
| | I''ve been told that is impossible ........... yet I saw it with my
own
| eyes! So there!
| |
| |
| | Any thoughts?
| |
| |
| | Dave
| |
| |
| | --
| |
| |
| | "Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message
| ...
| | All kinds of stuff gets immediately rejected or filtered out soon
after
| it gets posts to the MS
| | server. There is generally no rhyme no reason for it. Fact is, nobody
is
| in charge of the MS news
| | servers. What there *is* is an ad hoc group of people with differing
and
| sometimes ridiculous
| | ideas about how to block SPAM and "objectionable" material, whatever
| they decide that is.
| | --
| | Gary S. Terhune
| | MS-MVP Shell/User
| | http://grystmill.com
| |
| |
| | Gary - thanks for taking the time and trouble to respond. I've come to
| respect your expertise and
| | attitude. Thanks.
| |
| | It took me a fair while to appreciate that the MS news servers were
| divorced from Microsoft itself
| | and that there is no moderation here, in general terms anyway. I'm quite
| certain that a very high
| | percentage of folk visiting the groups do so out of desperation - I know
I
| did! I must have been
| | using Outlook Express for about 8 years before I became aware that it
| could be used for
| | participating in newsgroups in addition to use for email! Doh!
| |
| | I have, though, always assumed that Microsoft funds the cost of running
| the servers. Can you confirm
| | that that is so? I did once question why there are two active servers -
| news.microsoft.com AND
| | msnews.microsoft.com. A historical 'quirk' I believe I was told.
| |
| | I'm uncertain if you read right through my post. Have you any
| understanding of *how* live links to
| | web sites could be 'hidden' within a jpeg file? I'm happy for you to
email
| me if you would prefer so
| | to do. Just let me know here and I'll give you my address. TIA
| |
| | In the meantime, I'll try posting my message to FTR again and see what
| happens this time!
| |
| | Dave
| |
| | Dave
| |
| | --
|
| The JPEG/JGP issue was a matter of concern [and still is] several years
ago
| with numerous sites related and discussions in the forums. One could
| reasonably state that the/those format(s) has(have) been used successfully
| to do exactly as you indicate.
|
| http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...ck&btnG=Search
| http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...ty&btnG=Search
|
|
| --
| MEB
| a Peoples' counsel
| --
| _________
|
|
|

"Tim Slattery" wrote in message
...
"~BD~" wrote:

I have, though, always assumed that Microsoft funds the cost of running the servers. Can you
confirm
that that is so? I did once question why there are two active servers - news.microsoft.com AND
msnews.microsoft.com. A historical 'quirk' I believe I was told.

The servers belong to Microsoft, they contract out the actual running
of them. There's only one server address, both domain names resolve to
the same IP address.

--
Tim Slattery
MS MVP(Shell/User)

http://members.cox.net/slatteryt


Thank you, Tim.

I guess it follows that Microsoft picks up the tab!

Dave

--

http://everything2.com/?node_id=1367818


"MEB" meb@not wrote in message
...


"~BD~" wrote in message
...
|
| "~BD~" wrote in message
| ...
|
| "Dan" wrote in message
| ...
| Thanks Dave for the correction.
|
| This was meant to be light-hearted, albeit with serious
undertones
(for 98 Guy anyway!)
|
| Maybe you can help me. I posted a message in the Microsoft security
group earlier this morning in
| 'your' Source Code thread. When I checked just now (using Outlook
Express) the message header had
| a line scored through it and in the message box it said the message
is
no longer available on the
| server.
|
| Have you ever seen this happen before? Any idea why it might happen?
|
| It is, however, still showing on Google Groups. I repeat it he-
|
| (It was in response to FromTheRafters who said ....... )
|
| "The transmission is textual - the protocol has no issues I am
| aware of. Any security risk would probably be in the extensions
| that allow this textual data to 'contain' malware - similar to the
| e-mail protocols".
|
| *
|
| *
|
|
| Hmmm! stroking chin!
|
| What about when 'pictures' or photographs are included (including
screenshots) - there's a term
| for
| that which escapes me right now! In other words, not in 'plain text'.
|
|
| I once received a 'screenshot' as an email attachment (I'd asked for
it
to be sent to me). I
| opened
| the 'picture' (jpeg I think) and all seemed fine.
|
|
| I then opened the file with Notepad (I do crazy things like that!).
Wow! Inside that file, above
| all the 'gobbledegook' one might expect, were *live* links to all
manner of web pages ,,,,,,,, of
| course I went and looked! grin
|
|
| During my experimentation over the years, I've seen lots of SPAM
(advertising the likes of Viagra
| and Jewelry) - every one of those links shown in Notepad was, I'm
certain, taking me to a SPAM
| site!
|
|
| I''ve been told that is impossible ........... yet I saw it with my
own
eyes! So there!
|
|
| Any thoughts?
|
|
| Dave
|
|
| --
|
|
| "Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message
...
| All kinds of stuff gets immediately rejected or filtered out soon
after
it gets posts to the MS
| server. There is generally no rhyme no reason for it. Fact is, nobody
is
in charge of the MS news
| servers. What there *is* is an ad hoc group of people with differing
and
sometimes ridiculous
| ideas about how to block SPAM and "objectionable" material, whatever
they decide that is.
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| http://grystmill.com
|
|
| Gary - thanks for taking the time and trouble to respond. I've come to
respect your expertise and
| attitude. Thanks.
|
| It took me a fair while to appreciate that the MS news servers were
divorced from Microsoft itself
| and that there is no moderation here, in general terms anyway. I'm quite
certain that a very high
| percentage of folk visiting the groups do so out of desperation - I know
I
did! I must have been
| using Outlook Express for about 8 years before I became aware that it
could be used for
| participating in newsgroups in addition to use for email! Doh!
|
| I have, though, always assumed that Microsoft funds the cost of running
the servers. Can you confirm
| that that is so? I did once question why there are two active servers -
news.microsoft.com AND
| msnews.microsoft.com. A historical 'quirk' I believe I was told.
|
| I'm uncertain if you read right through my post. Have you any
understanding of *how* live links to
| web sites could be 'hidden' within a jpeg file? I'm happy for you to
email
me if you would prefer so
| to do. Just let me know here and I'll give you my address. TIA
|
| In the meantime, I'll try posting my message to FTR again and see what
happens this time!
|
| Dave
|
| Dave
|
| --

The JPEG/JGP issue was a matter of concern [and still is] several years
ago
with numerous sites related and discussions in the forums. One could
reasonably state that the/those format(s) has(have) been used successfully
to do exactly as you indicate.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...ck&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...ty&btnG=Search


--
MEB
a Peoples' counsel
--
_________

Thanks for the information as well Tim.

"Tim Slattery" wrote:

"~BD~" wrote:

I have, though, always assumed that Microsoft funds the cost of running the servers. Can you confirm
that that is so? I did once question why there are two active servers - news.microsoft.com AND
msnews.microsoft.com. A historical 'quirk' I believe I was told.

The servers belong to Microsoft, they contract out the actual running
of them. There's only one server address, both domain names resolve to
the same IP address.

--
Tim Slattery
MS MVP(Shell/User)

http://members.cox.net/slatteryt

Which of the 7 Deadly Sins is software piracy?
--
{ : [|]=( DaffyD®


its not the sins that is the issue, its whether you believe christ was here, and whether you enter
in to his baptism and mannerism. the baptism he proclaimed, and also proclaimed it the loudest
by actually doing it, is the baptism of full immersion in water,, performed by another who has the
holy ghost inside.
at no other time was this ever done, til the christ himself fulfilled it.

so, you see my friends, not following christ himself is the greatest and only true sin.... for by
following him, the others are negated...... yes?
but, as with everything, there lies a trap,, a net to catch fools, and those who puff themselves
up, those who exist for their daily dose of 'recognition' from the subjects.
this 'trap', so far as humans know it, has a name.... simplist one is satan;; seems everyone is
familiar with it, so its generally accepted.
(yet in the first few pages of genesis, it tells of this being as 'wiley',, we also hear of him
being called a beast, "who devours at will". we also are told that he is 'prince'.... prince of
this earth, to reign and do his will,,,, he has 'power' beyond human understanding,, and uses it
daily, hourly,, secondly,, atomically. )

christ knows him, and he knows and fears christ..... christ doesnt fear him at all. for satan
himself is pure 'fear', he even fears himself....... but he wont stop my freinds,, his mission
is to destroy anything and everything that god created, for he despises god, for he is filled with
hate.
i believe its always good to get to know your enemy, that way, at least you are still in the car,
whether in the back seat or the front.... you is still there,, only a last breath can take that
from you, then its off to a place that most dont even consider while eating their weetbix in the
morning........ yes?

anyhoooooo,, this visit to us of christ via god, had one purpose,, and that was/is to
allow us to decide whether we are with him, or against him.. simple, huh!
it has Nothing to do with catholosism, or hinduism, or islamism..... in fact, it has nothing to
do with any flippin' ' ism ' any human can come up with. anyone that thinks otherwise is a
fool, ...... in fact, most/all 'religions' point to an 'all being' one god anyway;; its just
that they have lost their way....... sigh.
you will not find god in a church or mosque on a sunday or saturday or .. whatever, he is the
creator of the universe for goodness sake,, you think he twiddles his thumbs waiting for 'special'
days..... duh!

ppl.... puters are great,,,, but so was the very very very first telly set. glass is a
marvelous product, but only astounded the multitudes when they saw it for the first time. the
discovery of 'refining' and 'metalurgy' was a fascination to humans of that era, but became 'old
hat' as trends and fashions and newer discoveries were made.
my point is,,,, there is only one earth,, and yes, many secrets have been yielded from it via
digging and refining,,,, (i wouldnt even be typing this if it were not so) but its soul and only
purpose was to be a dwelling place for a creature called a 'human'.
no man can answer why...... the black-book even tells us this. we get tid-bits of
insights,,,,,, primarily being the primary one.... ie, that an omnipotent being had been challenged
by one of his omnipotent-underlings, and some sort of war broke out in a place known in the
english language as called 'heaven'.

this 'war', needed a battle-ground....... welcome to earth.

as such, the whole concept of 'life' had been conceived.. (by conception, i mean, that apparantely
god only has to 'think' something, and the next minute it is so. was this planet conceived as a
battleground between two competitors, sometimes its even hard to not believe that to be true,,,,
but because of history books, and especially that of josephus, we know a 'force' or 'power' called
'love', exists, ..... and when used, it increases in power to the user, and also opens up doors to
information to the user as it grows in strength.
(plz, all, do NOT, confuse this 'love' with the love a man and woman have for each other.....
there is a HUGE difference.... okay?)

god himself has said that he IS love. the 'qualities' of love a: enduring, hoping,
long-suffering, charity, compassion,,,, and i think you get the point.
god also said that : "I Am That I Am". (who hasnt heard or read that ?) it could be written:
"I Exist, Therefore, I Am"....... either way, i think god has made his statement as to who and
what he is. (primarily that 'he' knows who he is,,, yet we mere win98 users bombard our hours
with computers and grocery shopping and ladder climbing.... blah blah)
in other words,, all that we see and do, only relates to what goes on on the outside of this rock
we call earth...... whereas his world revolves around permutations that none here on this earth
could even comprehend.... anyone here beg to differ?

friends.... if you go to church on sundays,,, dont. (the sabbath is saturday, and was never
ever changed even while christ was here, and he said to 'keep' it, not to change it,, sigh,
unfortunately, the catholic hierarchy changed it about 600 or so years ago, claiming that they did
it "just because they could" (and they have done many other anti-christic things also,,,,,, stay
away from them,,, they dont even worship god himself)
next,, get yourself to the nearest person you know who is filled with the holy spirit, and get
yourself baptised,, it is imperitive. (do not listen to or believe your mothers or fathers if they
have told you that you were baptised as an infant,,,,, trust me, you were not baptised,,
again, look to jesus for what to do, and by his act of getting baptised at age 30, he was 'showing
you by example' what to do. a child has no free will, but a mature person makes their own
decision, and christ is looking for those who 'choose'.
next, allow the ghost to gently work in you.... your life will change,, all you saw before,
all you knew before, .... it will all seem different as the days pass. you will look people in
the eyes, people you feel you have known, and they will seem different to you. your 'eyes
of understanding' will be opened, this my friend is how you will know;; and as you accept the
ghost more and more,, then more and more will opened and shown to you.

for those who are unsure,, go pick up the bible that is in your house.... (its okay, you can do
it when no-one is looking.... god wont mind) and open it to the new-testament,, the first gospel,
the one by matthew.. turn to chapter 24, and read the reply given by christ when he was asked
what the signs would come when the end of gods clock for the earth was near........ and what
things christ said would be happening just before he came back;; and the type of madness he would
find,, and how mankind itself was ready to annihilate itself.

i could go into detail regarding the math of the bible, and the hologramatic codes, and the
pi-ra-mid, and stonehenge, and the phonecians, and etc etc....... but suffice to say, Get
Yourselves Baptised. (btw, baptise means 'to go under',,, to 'submerge')

as fer daffys 'daffy' question...... dunno matey,, so, which do you reckoin is the worst of
the 7 deadly sins? got baited breath awaiting.

cya

"dave" wrote in message ...

Which of the 7 Deadly Sins is software piracy?
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its not the sins that is the issue, its whether you believe christ was here, and whether you enter
in to his baptism and mannerism. the baptism he proclaimed, and also proclaimed it the
loudest
by actually doing it, is the baptism of full immersion in water,, performed by another who has
the
holy ghost inside.
at no other time was this ever done, til the christ himself fulfilled it.

so, you see my friends, not following christ himself is the greatest and only true sin.... for by
following him, the others are negated...... yes?
but, as with everything, there lies a trap,, a net to catch fools, and those who puff themselves
up, those who exist for their daily dose of 'recognition' from the subjects.
this 'trap', so far as humans know it, has a name.... simplist one is satan;; seems everyone
is
familiar with it, so its generally accepted.
(yet in the first few pages of genesis, it tells of this being as 'wiley',, we also hear of him
being called a beast, "who devours at will". we also are told that he is 'prince'.... prince
of
this earth, to reign and do his will,,,, he has 'power' beyond human understanding,, and uses
it
daily, hourly,, secondly,, atomically. )

christ knows him, and he knows and fears christ..... christ doesnt fear him at all. for
satan
himself is pure 'fear', he even fears himself....... but he wont stop my freinds,, his
mission
is to destroy anything and everything that god created, for he despises god, for he is filled with
hate.
i believe its always good to get to know your enemy, that way, at least you are still in the car,
whether in the back seat or the front.... you is still there,, only a last breath can take
that
from you, then its off to a place that most dont even consider while eating their weetbix in the
morning........ yes?

anyhoooooo,, this visit to us of christ via god, had one purpose,, and that was/is to
allow us to decide whether we are with him, or against him.. simple, huh!
it has Nothing to do with catholosism, or hinduism, or islamism..... in fact, it has nothing to
do with any flippin' ' ism ' any human can come up with. anyone that thinks otherwise is a
fool, ...... in fact, most/all 'religions' point to an 'all being' one god anyway;; its just
that they have lost their way....... sigh.
you will not find god in a church or mosque on a sunday or saturday or .. whatever, he is
the
creator of the universe for goodness sake,, you think he twiddles his thumbs waiting for
'special'
days..... duh!

ppl.... puters are great,,,, but so was the very very very first telly set. glass is a
marvelous product, but only astounded the multitudes when they saw it for the first time.
the
discovery of 'refining' and 'metalurgy' was a fascination to humans of that era, but became 'old
hat' as trends and fashions and newer discoveries were made.
my point is,,,, there is only one earth,, and yes, many secrets have been yielded from it via
digging and refining,,,, (i wouldnt even be typing this if it were not so) but its soul and only
purpose was to be a dwelling place for a creature called a 'human'.
no man can answer why...... the black-book even tells us this. we get tid-bits of
insights,,,,,, primarily being the primary one.... ie, that an omnipotent being had been
challenged
by one of his omnipotent-underlings, and some sort of war broke out in a place known in the
english language as called 'heaven'.

this 'war', needed a battle-ground....... welcome to earth.

as such, the whole concept of 'life' had been conceived.. (by conception, i mean, that
apparantely
god only has to 'think' something, and the next minute it is so. was this planet conceived as a
battleground between two competitors, sometimes its even hard to not believe that to be true,,,,
but because of history books, and especially that of josephus, we know a 'force' or 'power' called
'love', exists, ..... and when used, it increases in power to the user, and also opens up doors
to
information to the user as it grows in strength.
(plz, all, do NOT, confuse this 'love' with the love a man and woman have for each other.....
there is a HUGE difference.... okay?)

god himself has said that he IS love. the 'qualities' of love a: enduring, hoping,
long-suffering, charity, compassion,,,, and i think you get the point.
god also said that : "I Am That I Am". (who hasnt heard or read that ?) it could be written:
"I Exist, Therefore, I Am"....... either way, i think god has made his statement as to who
and
what he is. (primarily that 'he' knows who he is,,, yet we mere win98 users bombard our hours
with computers and grocery shopping and ladder climbing.... blah blah)
in other words,, all that we see and do, only relates to what goes on on the outside of this
rock
we call earth...... whereas his world revolves around permutations that none here on this earth
could even comprehend.... anyone here beg to differ?

friends.... if you go to church on sundays,,, dont. (the sabbath is saturday, and was
never
ever changed even while christ was here, and he said to 'keep' it, not to change it,, sigh,
unfortunately, the catholic hierarchy changed it about 600 or so years ago, claiming that they did
it "just because they could" (and they have done many other anti-christic things also,,,,,,
stay
away from them,,, they dont even worship god himself)
next,, get yourself to the nearest person you know who is filled with the holy spirit, and get
yourself baptised,, it is imperitive. (do not listen to or believe your mothers or fathers if
they
have told you that you were baptised as an infant,,,,, trust me, you were not baptised,,
again, look to jesus for what to do, and by his act of getting baptised at age 30, he was 'showing
you by example' what to do. a child has no free will, but a mature person makes their own
decision, and christ is looking for those who 'choose'.
next, allow the ghost to gently work in you.... your life will change,, all you saw before,
all you knew before, .... it will all seem different as the days pass. you will look people in
the eyes, people you feel you have known, and they will seem different to you. your 'eyes
of understanding' will be opened, this my friend is how you will know;; and as you accept
the
ghost more and more,, then more and more will opened and shown to you.

for those who are unsure,, go pick up the bible that is in your house.... (its okay, you can do
it when no-one is looking.... god wont mind) and open it to the new-testament,, the first
gospel,
the one by matthew.. turn to chapter 24, and read the reply given by christ when he was
asked
what the signs would come when the end of gods clock for the earth was near........ and what
things christ said would be happening just before he came back;; and the type of madness he would
find,, and how mankind itself was ready to annihilate itself.

i could go into detail regarding the math of the bible, and the hologramatic codes, and the
pi-ra-mid, and stonehenge, and the phonecians, and etc etc....... but suffice to say, Get
Yourselves Baptised. (btw, baptise means 'to go under',,, to 'submerge')

as fer daffys 'daffy' question...... dunno matey,, so, which do you reckoin is the worst of
the 7 deadly sins? got baited breath awaiting.

cya





Great post Dave! Thank you

Out of general interest ....... did *you* write it? (or copy from somewhere else)

Some may not have seen Creation from a computer's viewpoint.

Watch he http://www.pi.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/creation.html

Enjoy!

Dave