IE6.0 SP1- KB896727 & IPF in Module Explorer.exe??

Is it just a coincidence....?
First got "can't find shlwapi.dll" after rebooting when update KB896727 was
installed. This dll was no longer present in system folder. Making
unbootable drive a slave....was able to copy said dll into system folder.

When rebooted now getting "Explorer caused an invalid page fault in module
Explorer.exe at 018f:00401f31" Can't go into safe mode.
Tried Article ID: 296211 fix....no change!!!
Tried Article ID: 293174 fix....when rebooting after shell=program.exe
change, got message that couldn't load program!!!!
Any advice appreciated!

Did you have other IE windows open and was your anti-virus application
running in background when you installed 896727 via Windows Update?

What version of SHLWAPI.DLL did you copy into system folder?

[Can anyone else here who has successfully installed 896727 confirm that
SHLWAPI.DLL is now v6.0.2800.1692? If it's not, what version is it?]
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), AH-VSOP


Patreply wrote:
Is it just a coincidence....?
First got "can't find shlwapi.dll" after rebooting when update KB896727
was installed. This dll was no longer present in system folder. Making
unbootable drive a slave....was able to copy said dll into system folder.

When rebooted now getting "Explorer caused an invalid page fault in module
Explorer.exe at 018f:00401f31" Can't go into safe mode.
Tried Article ID: 296211 fix....no change!!!
Tried Article ID: 293174 fix....when rebooting after shell=program.exe
change, got message that couldn't load program!!!!
Any advice appreciated!

Patreply wrote:
Is it just a coincidence....?
First got "can't find shlwapi.dll" after rebooting when update KB896727
was installed. This dll was no longer present in system folder. Making
unbootable drive a slave....was able to copy said dll into system folder.

When rebooted now getting "Explorer caused an invalid page fault in
module Explorer.exe at 018f:00401f31" Can't go into safe mode.
Tried Article ID: 296211 fix....no change!!!
Tried Article ID: 293174 fix....when rebooting after shell=program.exe
change, got message that couldn't load program!!!!
Any advice appreciated!

I can see looking at my tracking software logs that it is true that the
shlwapi.dll does get replaced with this latest update of which not only
that but 10 other files from the same System folder get replaced too, but
the swap only takes place during the reboot process via the set6112.tmp
through set8116.tmp files where it draws them from, and so if after you
rebooted you did not even have the previous shlwapi.dll or the new one then
it possibly suggests something went awry in your install as also indicated
with your other errors - which may point to some of those other files that
were suppose to be replaced were possibly lost as well. I would suggest be
sure your AV and any other similar programs be temporally turned off first
so they don't interfere with the install process - and then simply
reinstall the update..

Rick

PA Bear wrote:
Did you have other IE windows open and was your anti-virus application
running in background when you installed 896727 via Windows Update?

What version of SHLWAPI.DLL did you copy into system folder?

[Can anyone else here who has successfully installed 896727 confirm that
SHLWAPI.DLL is now v6.0.2800.1692? If it's not, what version is it?]


Yes and this is what it says:
copy/paste:
6.00.2800.1692 (xpsp2.050524-1552)

Rick

--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), AH-VSOP


Patreply wrote:
Is it just a coincidence....?
First got "can't find shlwapi.dll" after rebooting when update KB896727
was installed. This dll was no longer present in system folder. Making
unbootable drive a slave....was able to copy said dll into system
folder.

When rebooted now getting "Explorer caused an invalid page fault in
module Explorer.exe at 018f:00401f31" Can't go into safe mode.
Tried Article ID: 296211 fix....no change!!!
Tried Article ID: 293174 fix....when rebooting after shell=program.exe
change, got message that couldn't load program!!!!
Any advice appreciated!

wink Thanks, Rick.

Rick Chauvin wrote:
PA Bear wrote:
Did you have other IE windows open and was your anti-virus application
running in background when you installed 896727 via Windows Update?

What version of SHLWAPI.DLL did you copy into system folder?

[Can anyone else here who has successfully installed 896727 confirm that
SHLWAPI.DLL is now v6.0.2800.1692? If it's not, what version is it?]


Yes and this is what it says:
copy/paste:
6.00.2800.1692 (xpsp2.050524-1552)

Rick

--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), AH-VSOP


Patreply wrote:
Is it just a coincidence....?
First got "can't find shlwapi.dll" after rebooting when update
KB896727 was installed. This dll was no longer present in system
folder. Making unbootable drive a slave....was able to copy said dll
into system folder.

When rebooted now getting "Explorer caused an invalid page fault in
module Explorer.exe at 018f:00401f31" Can't go into safe mode.
Tried Article ID: 296211 fix....no change!!!
Tried Article ID: 293174 fix....when rebooting after shell=program.exe
change, got message that couldn't load program!!!!
Any advice appreciated!

Error in posting!

shlwapi.dll=6.00.2800.1612 (xpsp2.041207-1145)

Norton 2004 AV was running....

Could you post the names of all the files that were changed during the
update.
How can I update again...if I can't boot up....not even in safe mode?
Can I update IE on the slave drive? In Dos?

Were you replying to me? Please include previous message(s) in your replies
to the newsgroup.

Is the machine in question running Win98? (Looks like you copied a WinXP
file into Win98: Not a good idea.)
--
~PA Bear

Patreply wrote:
Error in posting!

shlwapi.dll=6.00.2800.1612 (xpsp2.041207-1145)

Norton 2004 AV was running....

Could you post the names of all the files that were changed during the
update.
How can I update again...if I can't boot up....not even in safe mode?
Can I update IE on the slave drive? In Dos?
paste
PA Bear wrote:
Did you have other IE windows open and was your anti-virus application
running in background when you installed 896727 via Windows Update?

What version of SHLWAPI.DLL did you copy into system folder?

Patreply wrote:
Is it just a coincidence....?
First got "can't find shlwapi.dll" after rebooting when update KB896727
was installed. This dll was no longer present in system folder. Making
unbootable drive a slave....was able to copy said dll into system
folder.

When rebooted now getting "Explorer caused an invalid page fault in
module Explorer.exe at 018f:00401f31" Can't go into safe mode.
Tried Article ID: 296211 fix....no change!!!
Tried Article ID: 293174 fix....when rebooting after shell=program.exe
change, got message that couldn't load program!!!!
Any advice appreciated!

Patreply wrote:
Error in posting!

shlwapi.dll=6.00.2800.1612 (xpsp2.041207-1145)

Norton 2004 AV was running....

Could you post the names of all the files that were changed during the
update.
How can I update again...if I can't boot up....not even in safe mode?
Can I update IE on the slave drive? In Dos?

If you cannot boot it then no there is no easy way to install the Complete
update Properly from dos really because of registry and other entries,
although yes as you have already done if you have access to backup then you
can use those to manually copy the files back in dos if you have access to
them from backup just in case they are not there too. (another plug why
partition image backups are a must! ..and gives you easy simple complete
restore capability)

Be sure when you can boot, or better yet before put the filename back that
glee mentions too. When you can boot just reinstall the update as
mentioned before with any extras turned off and hopefully the reinstall
will put things in order. (fwiw I prefer to put all files from Windows
Update into my catalogue basket and then do the install offline, although I
realize for the normal person that may be to complicated or unnecessary)

The other files that the update replaces in the System folder a
copy/paste:

Browseui.dll
Cdfview.dll
Iepeers.dll
Inseng.dll
Mshtml.dll
Msrating.dll
Pngfilt.dll
Shdocvw.dll
Shlwapi.dll
Urlmon.dll
Wininet.dll

There are other files in the CatRoot folder that are changed, and etc.. and
plenty of registry changes that are needed and so again let the actual
re-install tidy these things up after you are able to boot.

Rick

PA Bear wrote:
Were you replying to me? Please include previous message(s) in your
replies to the newsgroup.

Is the machine in question running Win98? (Looks like you copied a WinXP
file into Win98: Not a good idea.)
--
~PA Bear

Patreply wrote:
Error in posting!

shlwapi.dll=6.00.2800.1612 (xpsp2.041207-1145)


Robear, as I mentioned in my reply to you with my copy/paste of the file
info from it's properties, that's exactly what the file says from the W98
install - check your files properties to see it yourself:

shlwapi.dll=6.00.2800.1612 (xpsp2.041207-1145)

Rick




Norton 2004 AV was running....

Could you post the names of all the files that were changed during the
update.
How can I update again...if I can't boot up....not even in safe mode?
Can I update IE on the slave drive? In Dos?
paste
PA Bear wrote:
Did you have other IE windows open and was your anti-virus application
running in background when you installed 896727 via Windows Update?

What version of SHLWAPI.DLL did you copy into system folder?

Patreply wrote:
Is it just a coincidence....?
First got "can't find shlwapi.dll" after rebooting when update
KB896727 was installed. This dll was no longer present in system
folder. Making unbootable drive a slave....was able to copy said dll
into system folder.

When rebooted now getting "Explorer caused an invalid page fault in
module Explorer.exe at 018f:00401f31" Can't go into safe mode.
Tried Article ID: 296211 fix....no change!!!
Tried Article ID: 293174 fix....when rebooting after shell=program.exe
change, got message that couldn't load program!!!!
Any advice appreciated!

Rick Chauvin wrote:
Patreply wrote:
Is it just a coincidence....?
First got "can't find shlwapi.dll" after rebooting when update KB896727
was installed. This dll was no longer present in system folder. Making
unbootable drive a slave....was able to copy said dll into system folder.

When rebooted now getting "Explorer caused an invalid page fault in
module Explorer.exe at 018f:00401f31" Can't go into safe mode.
Tried Article ID: 296211 fix....no change!!!
Tried Article ID: 293174 fix....when rebooting after shell=program.exe
change, got message that couldn't load program!!!!
Any advice appreciated!

I can see looking at my tracking software logs that it is true that the
shlwapi.dll does get replaced with this latest update of which not only
that but 10 other files from the same System folder get replaced too, but
the swap only takes place during the reboot process via the set6112.tmp
through set8116.tmp files where it draws them from, and so if after you
rebooted you did not even have the previous shlwapi.dll or the new one then
it possibly suggests something went awry in your install as also indicated
with your other errors - which may point to some of those other files that
were suppose to be replaced were possibly lost as well. I would suggest be
sure your AV and any other similar programs be temporally turned off first
so they don't interfere with the install process - and then simply
reinstall the update..

Rick

Hi, Rick. PCR and I have confirmed that each machine gets it's own
unique set of temporary numbered file names so going by that alone is
not a good idea. You will get a different run of numbers if you were
to run the update a second time as well. If Patreply wanted to
investigate the issue in DOS mode he well might find the temporary
named shlwapi.dll alive and well and just needing some renaming in his
Windows\System folder. The clue would be held in the Wininit.bak file,
so in DOS Patreply could do:
type c:\windows\wininit.bak

and read the line that corresponds to shlwapi.dll file and deduce the
temporary file name from that same line. Then:
ren c:\windows\System\set1186.tmp shlwapi.dll

and then a reboot might be all he needs to get going right away? Of
course, in the example above 'set1186.tmp' would need to be changed for
whatever name that Patreply's own wininit.bak file states the temp name
to be.

Then reapply the update to be sure that all files got copied to where
they need to live at and the registry is brought up to speed as well, I
agree there hands down. He can get the stand alone, offline version
from the Catalog site,
http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog/

Shlwapi.dll seems to be the only file to do this for some unknown
reason. Shlwapi.dll is needed to run 32 bit processes which includes
Windows and running of the update itself so the above DOS 'cheat' or a
second machine to use to put the shlwapi.dll on a floppy for DOS
transfer that way are the only ways back to life. Reinstalling Windows
is all that is left to do with such a machine?

When people try the progman or winfile solution on this one they often
get misleading 'out of memory' error reports trying to run ie6setup.exe
which is yet another 32 bit process that will not run without a working
shlwapi.dll file. An older version of shlwapi.dll will work here but
sometimes lead to unique errors that should go away once the correct
versioned file is in place. My fear is that once a machine is back
running with an older file, the user will NOT take a chance and rerun
the update as he very much should. Still wondering why shlwapi.dll
goes missing like this from time to time...