USA and Canada

Sugien wrote:

although true as far as it goes; but had the USA not developed the Atomic
bomb *before* Germany , Germany and Hitler would have won
"Heirloom" wrote in message
...

*If* I had some eggs, I would have some ham and eggs *if* I had some ham.

Alias

Actually, the winning of WWII was a concerted effort by a number of
forces, not the least of which were the brave pilots of the RAF and their
mighty Spitfires (a formidable aircraft even by today's standards). Yes,
WE (the brave men and women of the United States of America) helped, as
did the Russians and many other countries.

Why am I lowering myself to this crap? I should be flogged. This is the
Me NG....this is where people come to have fun and learn and help others.
This mindless bickering is the food of fools and my belly is full.
Heirloom, old and gonna stick with my diet


yep, and that is why the USA is now called southern Canada, oh that is
right it is NOT called southern Canada but rather the USA; because
although you may have won a battle you LOST that war! Even the tiniest of
countries military can win a battle or skirmish now and then; but winning
the war is another thing. I stand by the statement that if it were not
for the USA, all of you Canadians would be speaking German as most likely
would the rest of the world. The USA WON WW2, and maybe that is what
sticks in you crawl and makes you PO'ed; because we DID WIN WW2 and you
and the rest of the world knows that no matter how much you say different
it does NOT make it so

I have voiced my opinion with no malice or name calling and you can all in
part or as a whole either agree or disagree. I will not change my opinion;
because none of you have given me any cause, reason or evidence to change my
opinion. The best that can be hoped for in situations like these is to
agree to disagree.
Those with tiny minds and even smaller intellects will resort to name
calling and such when they can not dissuade someone from their opinion and
can not with their limited brain power come up with reasons to justify their
opinion so they resort to school yard type tactics such as name calling.
Which is sad and prevents any type of civil discussion of a topic. With
that in mind, I consider this subject close because of being at an impasse:

Till next time:


--
From the Desk of Sugien
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@###{ ]:::::ino-Soft Softwa:::::
\}
pedophiles suck the life from our future
"Alias" wrote in message
...
Sugien wrote:

although true as far as it goes; but had the USA not developed the Atomic
bomb *before* Germany , Germany and Hitler would have won
"Heirloom" wrote in message
...

*If* I had some eggs, I would have some ham and eggs *if* I had some ham.

Alias

Actually, the winning of WWII was a concerted effort by a number of
forces, not the least of which were the brave pilots of the RAF and their
mighty Spitfires (a formidable aircraft even by today's standards). Yes,
WE (the brave men and women of the United States of America) helped, as
did the Russians and many other countries.

Why am I lowering myself to this crap? I should be flogged. This is the
Me NG....this is where people come to have fun and learn and help others.
This mindless bickering is the food of fools and my belly is full.
Heirloom, old and gonna stick with my diet


yep, and that is why the USA is now called southern Canada, oh that is
right it is NOT called southern Canada but rather the USA; because
although you may have won a battle you LOST that war! Even the tiniest
of countries military can win a battle or skirmish now and then; but
winning the war is another thing. I stand by the statement that if it
were not for the USA, all of you Canadians would be speaking German as
most likely would the rest of the world. The USA WON WW2, and maybe
that is what sticks in you crawl and makes you PO'ed; because we DID WIN
WW2 and you and the rest of the world knows that no matter how much you
say different it does NOT make it so

Good Lord!! I read all of this thinking that Dimbulb had copied it over.
So I will pause for a moment to regain my sanity, grin!! Some of it is
wrong by the way. According to documentation that I have transcribed. But
hey....who knows. I will do some more research. But the following is off
the top of my head (having transcribed it for hours for a website)...

He was born in Genoa, married to a Portuguese woman, some say....(and a lot
of Portuguese swear he was one of theirs).....he pleaded with Ferdinand and
Isabella of Spain to finance his voyage to the "Indies" and in 1492 they
gave him the money and ships at the Alhambra in Granada. I toured thru the
Alhambra 10 years ago and it is amazing!! But Alias could tell you that as
well.

In short, his first voyage (ships were Nina, Pinta & Santa Maria) landed him
at modern day Haiti/Dominican Republic which he called Hispanola (Little
Spain). I am doing all this by memory, btw, so could miss something.....but
I am just doing an overview.

His second voyage landed him on the north coast of Jamaica, which is where
he met up with the native inhabitants....the Arawak and the Carib Indian
tribes. They were quite light complexioned and probably of the same
background as the Aztecs, etc. Most of them died from *white man
diseases*, such as a cold.....they had no immunity to European diseases, of
course. Others were slaughtered and enslaved. He sent some back to
Hispanola. (I can't spell that with an 'eye', grin)

It is speculated that his 3rd voyage landed him in Cuba and if you look at a
map, that makes sense. To my knowledge that was his last trip, but I will
go look up various sources on the 'net. He was no youngster when he finally
convinced Spain and the sailors he hired to let him try and find the Indies.
The sailors did reach the point of mutiny btw....just as they found land.

That's it in a nutshell and I know that you are one of many that do know the
story. When I was in England, just for kicks I asked every American I met
and they honestly didn't know. Even a history teacher told me that she had
never even thought about it and certainly didn't know he didn't land in
Florida, etc. (that was Amerigo Vespucci)

Looks like we all got *discovered* by Italians. (G) John Cabot who is
allegedly the discoverer of Canada (they forget Leif Ericsson) was really
Giovanni Caboto. But what the hey....it doesn't matter.

Goodonya Loon....one kid in England came close...guessing it was an island.
But the history books don't seem to give too much detail, I guess. Canadian
ones don't either. I just learned this with my genealogy research.

And we say "hydro" for electricity for one simple reason.....water and power
were run by The Hydro-Electric Power Commission....hence, hydro. I do get
tripped up by "merkins" on that one, but it is just common usage.

Kissies....the student of Spanish & British occupation of the West Indies.

Sra. Figgs.

PS....sorry I had to snip this, but will keep it and read it at my leisure.
Quite interesting, actually. And I would like to cross-check it with some
of the info I have on the other computer. I was intrigued by the mention of
Valladolid because I have recently discovered that is where Ron's ancestors
are from in the 1500's. I was able to tie one in with a burial certificate
I have from Cartagena in Colombia. I also personally found a Caterina de
Figueroa in a parish register in Ronda (southern Spain) from 1601 who was
from that area.

"Heirloom" wrote in message
...
Not all of the Yanks:

First voyage


A replica of the Santa Maria

The year 1492, on the evening of August 3, Columbus left from Palos with
three ships, the Santa Maria, Pinta. The ships were property of Juan de la
Cosa and the Pinz??rothers (Canary Islands, fortunately owned by Castile,
where he reprovisioned and made repairs, and on September 6 started the
five week voyage across the ocean.

A legend is that the crew grew so homesick and fearful that they
threatened to hurl Columbus overboard and sail back to Spain. Although the
actual situation is unclear, most likely the sailors' resentments merely
amounted to complaints or suggestions.

After 29 days out of sight of land, on 7 October 1492 as recorded in the
ship's log, the crew spotted shore birds flying West and changed direction
================================================== =======
Yes, I copied and pasted the info......but, it is commonly known, even
amongst the 'merkins', that Chris didn't make it to the States. Contrary
to some Canadian and British beliefs, not all 'merkins', especially those
in Texas, are completely ignorant.
Why, some of us even know how to pronounce noo-klee-are and the rest of us
know what is meant by noo-cue-lar. We can, however, differentiate
between "hydro" (water) and electricity. Oh yeah, you may want to note
when ol' Chris took slaves, as well.
Heirloom, old and one of the
many

Do us a favour and LEAVE, as in DO NOT COME BACK!! Is that clear enough?
And what in heck is "lah V".....a retard's way of saying "voila"?? You got
it backwards as usual, Mr. Tiny Mind.

Don't bother to answer. You will just invent some stupid reason for
screwing it up.



"Sugien" wrote in message
.. .
Actually NO, I said I was leaving which I did, I did NOT however say I
would NOT come back, I did tell another NG that, and gave them my word
which I have not broken and have NOT returned their; but that is their
loss and your gain. I go where I like and say what I like and if tiny
minds and even smaller intellects can't deal with it, say lah V (spelled
that way because I can)
"webster72n" wrote in message
...

And here I thought you had died (at least you told us never to show up
again).
Are we witnessing a resurrection?
In that case, we better brace ourselves.
For the moment your opinion here is useless without atonement

Harry.


"Sugien" wrote in message
...

"Heather" wrote in message
...

"NunYa" wrote in message
oups.com...
Just sit back and HONESTLY ask your self if you would want to
live
in a world without the USA? and remember I said honestly without any
nationalistic pride or what ever. Just think what shape the rest of
the world would be in had the USA never been founded?

Where would I start? Slavery would have been abolished in 1834, along
with the rest of the world...but no, the USA didn't abolish it till
1865
(or was that 1965).

I do not believe in Slavery but! slavery as is thought by most is a
myth;
because were it not for slavers selling the slaves the slaves would be
DEAD!!. Until the tribes started selling their captives into slavery to
be
taken out side of their country, they routinely killed their captives
until
the slave ships showed them they could trade them for more weapons to go
and
attack more of their country men. The USA did NOT invent slavery; but
admitted they did continue with it far too long



The USA sat back until Feb. of 1942 while the rest of the us fought in
WW2
from September of 1939.

Yes....we were in England at the very beginning and there was a
squadron
of American pilots who flew out of Canada because they couldn't do so
under the American flag.

But without the USA, Hitler would have won and you would now not have
Canada
or ANY freedom what so ever; because Germany was very close to
perfecting
their atomic bomb and would have blasted mankind back into the stone
age,
well all except for Germany. So thank the USA for your freedom; but of
course you will not; because the USA is the evil empire until some
nation
try's to take over the world and then we are the good guy until we save
everyone's ars.



No war in Vietnam....

Vietnam had been at war for HUNDREDS of years before the USA got there,
before the USA the French were there.



No war in Iraq.....

Maybe not; but if it were not for the USA Iraq would be the very least
of
the worlds problems; because as I already said, Germany would be ruling
the
world right now



No Yahoo in Washington who thinks he has a direct line to God, who is
*saving the world from terrorists*. Even tho the terrorists came from
Afghanistan, not Iraq. Guess he skipped geography in high school.
Along
with his National Guard duties.

Feel free to add to this list, coz I have laundry to do which takes
precedence over arguing with a Dimbulb!!

You just don't get it do you! Without the good ole US of A, you would
NOT
HAVE A COUNTRY to sit in and spout trash against what is most likely the
best country on earth. The USA comes to the aid of everyone and then
when
their troubles are over their countrymen stab us in the back and call us
the
ugly Americans. You would not have computers, (American invention) you
would not have the Internet, well the list goes one and one; but the
biggest
thing, without the USA, Germany may have won the first world war and
certainly would have won the second and then no one here or any where
else
would be having any talk on line; because Hitler would not allow it.

Why even bother to answer, Figgs.
Mike's hit the nail on the head with his assessment.
It's best to leave this poor guy to himself, lest he comes to (after a brain
transplant maybe).

Harry.


"Heather" wrote in message
...
Do us a favour and LEAVE, as in DO NOT COME BACK!! Is that clear enough?
And what in heck is "lah V".....a retard's way of saying "voila"?? You
got
it backwards as usual, Mr. Tiny Mind.

Don't bother to answer. You will just invent some stupid reason for
screwing it up.



"Sugien" wrote in message
.. .
Actually NO, I said I was leaving which I did, I did NOT however say I
would NOT come back, I did tell another NG that, and gave them my word
which I have not broken and have NOT returned their; but that is their
loss and your gain. I go where I like and say what I like and if tiny
minds and even smaller intellects can't deal with it, say lah V (spelled
that way because I can)
"webster72n" wrote in message
...

And here I thought you had died (at least you told us never to show up
again).
Are we witnessing a resurrection?
In that case, we better brace ourselves.
For the moment your opinion here is useless without atonement

Harry.


"Sugien" wrote in message
...

"Heather" wrote in message
...

"NunYa" wrote in message
oups.com...
Just sit back and HONESTLY ask your self if you would want to
live
in a world without the USA? and remember I said honestly without
any
nationalistic pride or what ever. Just think what shape the rest
of
the world would be in had the USA never been founded?

Where would I start? Slavery would have been abolished in 1834,
along
with the rest of the world...but no, the USA didn't abolish it till
1865
(or was that 1965).

I do not believe in Slavery but! slavery as is thought by most is a
myth;
because were it not for slavers selling the slaves the slaves would be
DEAD!!. Until the tribes started selling their captives into slavery
to
be
taken out side of their country, they routinely killed their captives
until
the slave ships showed them they could trade them for more weapons to
go
and
attack more of their country men. The USA did NOT invent slavery; but
admitted they did continue with it far too long



The USA sat back until Feb. of 1942 while the rest of the us fought
in
WW2
from September of 1939.

Yes....we were in England at the very beginning and there was a
squadron
of American pilots who flew out of Canada because they couldn't do
so
under the American flag.

But without the USA, Hitler would have won and you would now not have
Canada
or ANY freedom what so ever; because Germany was very close to
perfecting
their atomic bomb and would have blasted mankind back into the stone
age,
well all except for Germany. So thank the USA for your freedom; but
of
course you will not; because the USA is the evil empire until some
nation
try's to take over the world and then we are the good guy until we
save
everyone's ars.



No war in Vietnam....

Vietnam had been at war for HUNDREDS of years before the USA got
there,
before the USA the French were there.



No war in Iraq.....

Maybe not; but if it were not for the USA Iraq would be the very least
of
the worlds problems; because as I already said, Germany would be
ruling
the
world right now



No Yahoo in Washington who thinks he has a direct line to God, who
is
*saving the world from terrorists*. Even tho the terrorists came
from
Afghanistan, not Iraq. Guess he skipped geography in high school.
Along
with his National Guard duties.

Feel free to add to this list, coz I have laundry to do which takes
precedence over arguing with a Dimbulb!!

You just don't get it do you! Without the good ole US of A, you would
NOT
HAVE A COUNTRY to sit in and spout trash against what is most likely
the
best country on earth. The USA comes to the aid of everyone and then
when
their troubles are over their countrymen stab us in the back and call
us
the
ugly Americans. You would not have computers, (American invention)
you
would not have the Internet, well the list goes one and one; but the
biggest
thing, without the USA, Germany may have won the first world war and
certainly would have won the second and then no one here or any where
else
would be having any talk on line; because Hitler would not allow it.

you are the dimmest bulb after all because I DID NOT post that oh dimmest
bulb in the pack, go back and see whom did, roflmfao @ U
"Heather" wrote in message
...
Good Lord!! I read all of this thinking that Dimbulb had copied it over.
So I will pause for a moment to regain my sanity, grin!! Some of it is
wrong by the way. According to documentation that I have transcribed.
But hey....who knows. I will do some more research. But the following is
off the top of my head (having transcribed it for hours for a website)...

He was born in Genoa, married to a Portuguese woman, some say....(and a
lot of Portuguese swear he was one of theirs).....he pleaded with
Ferdinand and Isabella of Spain to finance his voyage to the "Indies" and
in 1492 they gave him the money and ships at the Alhambra in Granada. I
toured thru the Alhambra 10 years ago and it is amazing!! But Alias could
tell you that as well.

In short, his first voyage (ships were Nina, Pinta & Santa Maria) landed
him at modern day Haiti/Dominican Republic which he called Hispanola
(Little Spain). I am doing all this by memory, btw, so could miss
something.....but I am just doing an overview.

His second voyage landed him on the north coast of Jamaica, which is where
he met up with the native inhabitants....the Arawak and the Carib Indian
tribes. They were quite light complexioned and probably of the same
background as the Aztecs, etc. Most of them died from *white man
diseases*, such as a cold.....they had no immunity to European diseases,
of course. Others were slaughtered and enslaved. He sent some back to
Hispanola. (I can't spell that with an 'eye', grin)

It is speculated that his 3rd voyage landed him in Cuba and if you look at
a map, that makes sense. To my knowledge that was his last trip, but I
will go look up various sources on the 'net. He was no youngster when he
finally convinced Spain and the sailors he hired to let him try and find
the Indies. The sailors did reach the point of mutiny btw....just as they
found land.

That's it in a nutshell and I know that you are one of many that do know
the story. When I was in England, just for kicks I asked every American I
met and they honestly didn't know. Even a history teacher told me that
she had never even thought about it and certainly didn't know he didn't
land in Florida, etc. (that was Amerigo Vespucci)

Looks like we all got *discovered* by Italians. (G) John Cabot who is
allegedly the discoverer of Canada (they forget Leif Ericsson) was really
Giovanni Caboto. But what the hey....it doesn't matter.

Goodonya Loon....one kid in England came close...guessing it was an
island. But the history books don't seem to give too much detail, I guess.
Canadian ones don't either. I just learned this with my genealogy
research.

And we say "hydro" for electricity for one simple reason.....water and
power were run by The Hydro-Electric Power Commission....hence, hydro. I
do get tripped up by "merkins" on that one, but it is just common usage.

Kissies....the student of Spanish & British occupation of the West Indies.

Sra. Figgs.

PS....sorry I had to snip this, but will keep it and read it at my
leisure. Quite interesting, actually. And I would like to cross-check it
with some of the info I have on the other computer. I was intrigued by
the mention of Valladolid because I have recently discovered that is where
Ron's ancestors are from in the 1500's. I was able to tie one in with a
burial certificate I have from Cartagena in Colombia. I also personally
found a Caterina de Figueroa in a parish register in Ronda (southern
Spain) from 1601 who was from that area.

"Heirloom" wrote in message
...
Not all of the Yanks:

First voyage


A replica of the Santa Maria

The year 1492, on the evening of August 3, Columbus left from Palos with
three ships, the Santa Maria, Pinta. The ships were property of Juan de
la Cosa and the Pinz??rothers (Canary Islands, fortunately owned by
Castile, where he reprovisioned and made repairs, and on September 6
started the five week voyage across the ocean.

A legend is that the crew grew so homesick and fearful that they
threatened to hurl Columbus overboard and sail back to Spain. Although
the actual situation is unclear, most likely the sailors' resentments
merely amounted to complaints or suggestions.

After 29 days out of sight of land, on 7 October 1492 as recorded in the
ship's log, the crew spotted shore birds flying West and changed
direction
================================================== =======
Yes, I copied and pasted the info......but, it is commonly known, even
amongst the 'merkins', that Chris didn't make it to the States. Contrary
to some Canadian and British beliefs, not all 'merkins', especially
those in Texas, are completely ignorant.
Why, some of us even know how to pronounce noo-klee-are and the rest of
us know what is meant by noo-cue-lar. We can, however, differentiate
between "hydro" (water) and electricity. Oh yeah, you may want to
note when ol' Chris took slaves, as well.
Heirloom, old and one of the
many

"Sugien" wrote in message
.. .

"Heather" wrote in message
...

"Sugien" wrote in message
.. .

"Anon" Spamfree wrote in message
...
Just sit back and HONESTLY ask your self if you would want to
live
in a world without the USA?

Yes. The world would quite possibly be a damn site better place
without
the US or at least its leaders but then again we will never know will
we. The US has no respect for the individual or their lives.
Retaining
the death penalty as it does and openly practising torture and the
denial of international law suggests the US, or its authorities, is at
best a primitive society and at worst a nation of savages.

No; because at the very least Hitler and most likely also the emperor
of
Japan would now be in charge if it were not for the USA

Hello!!! You didn't even enter into WW2 until 1942, so don't give me
that
crap!! While our guys were dying in battle for 2.5 years, the US
ignored
the whole thing......until you got creamed at Pearl Harbour!!

I get so sick of hearing that if it wasn't for the US, we would be
speaking German!! You only get into wars for monetary gain.....not out
of
caring about the rest of the world. The rest of the world tries to keep
the peace, not start wars.

That does not change the fact that if there were no USA then Germany
would
have won.

That's *bull*.
Germany with Hitler did itself in, firstly, because of anihilating the Jews
instead of making them Allies and then secondly, because of inside splitting
(treason).
The US would have been an ally, believe it or not.
Those are facts, not fiction.
I am injecting this, to clear the air, once and for all.
No need for a debate.

Harry.

Sugien wrote:
you are the dimmest bulb after all because I DID NOT post that oh dimmest
bulb in the pack, go back and see whom did, roflmfao @ U

vs.

"Those with tiny minds and even smaller intellects will resort to name
calling ..."

- Sugien, one hour and 45 minutes earlier.

Alias
"Heather" wrote in message
...

Good Lord!! I read all of this thinking that Dimbulb had copied it over.
So I will pause for a moment to regain my sanity, grin!! Some of it is
wrong by the way. According to documentation that I have transcribed.
But hey....who knows. I will do some more research. But the following is
off the top of my head (having transcribed it for hours for a website)...

He was born in Genoa, married to a Portuguese woman, some say....(and a
lot of Portuguese swear he was one of theirs).....he pleaded with
Ferdinand and Isabella of Spain to finance his voyage to the "Indies" and
in 1492 they gave him the money and ships at the Alhambra in Granada. I
toured thru the Alhambra 10 years ago and it is amazing!! But Alias could
tell you that as well.

In short, his first voyage (ships were Nina, Pinta & Santa Maria) landed
him at modern day Haiti/Dominican Republic which he called Hispanola
(Little Spain). I am doing all this by memory, btw, so could miss
something.....but I am just doing an overview.

His second voyage landed him on the north coast of Jamaica, which is where
he met up with the native inhabitants....the Arawak and the Carib Indian
tribes. They were quite light complexioned and probably of the same
background as the Aztecs, etc. Most of them died from *white man
diseases*, such as a cold.....they had no immunity to European diseases,
of course. Others were slaughtered and enslaved. He sent some back to
Hispanola. (I can't spell that with an 'eye', grin)

It is speculated that his 3rd voyage landed him in Cuba and if you look at
a map, that makes sense. To my knowledge that was his last trip, but I
will go look up various sources on the 'net. He was no youngster when he
finally convinced Spain and the sailors he hired to let him try and find
the Indies. The sailors did reach the point of mutiny btw....just as they
found land.

That's it in a nutshell and I know that you are one of many that do know
the story. When I was in England, just for kicks I asked every American I
met and they honestly didn't know. Even a history teacher told me that
she had never even thought about it and certainly didn't know he didn't
land in Florida, etc. (that was Amerigo Vespucci)

Looks like we all got *discovered* by Italians. (G) John Cabot who is
allegedly the discoverer of Canada (they forget Leif Ericsson) was really
Giovanni Caboto. But what the hey....it doesn't matter.

Goodonya Loon....one kid in England came close...guessing it was an
island. But the history books don't seem to give too much detail, I guess.
Canadian ones don't either. I just learned this with my genealogy
research.

And we say "hydro" for electricity for one simple reason.....water and
power were run by The Hydro-Electric Power Commission....hence, hydro. I
do get tripped up by "merkins" on that one, but it is just common usage.

Kissies....the student of Spanish & British occupation of the West Indies.

Sra. Figgs.

PS....sorry I had to snip this, but will keep it and read it at my
leisure. Quite interesting, actually. And I would like to cross-check it
with some of the info I have on the other computer. I was intrigued by
the mention of Valladolid because I have recently discovered that is where
Ron's ancestors are from in the 1500's. I was able to tie one in with a
burial certificate I have from Cartagena in Colombia. I also personally
found a Caterina de Figueroa in a parish register in Ronda (southern
Spain) from 1601 who was from that area.

"Heirloom" wrote in message
...

Not all of the Yanks:

First voyage


A replica of the Santa Maria

The year 1492, on the evening of August 3, Columbus left from Palos with
three ships, the Santa Maria, Pinta. The ships were property of Juan de
la Cosa and the Pinz??rothers (Canary Islands, fortunately owned by
Castile, where he reprovisioned and made repairs, and on September 6
started the five week voyage across the ocean.

A legend is that the crew grew so homesick and fearful that they
threatened to hurl Columbus overboard and sail back to Spain. Although
the actual situation is unclear, most likely the sailors' resentments
merely amounted to complaints or suggestions.

After 29 days out of sight of land, on 7 October 1492 as recorded in the
ship's log, the crew spotted shore birds flying West and changed
direction

================================================ =========

Yes, I copied and pasted the info......but, it is commonly known, even
amongst the 'merkins', that Chris didn't make it to the States. Contrary
to some Canadian and British beliefs, not all 'merkins', especially
those in Texas, are completely ignorant.
Why, some of us even know how to pronounce noo-klee-are and the rest of
us know what is meant by noo-cue-lar. We can, however, differentiate
between "hydro" (water) and electricity. Oh yeah, you may want to
note when ol' Chris took slaves, as well.
Heirloom, old and one of the
many

Sugien wrote:

"Alias" wrote in message
...

Sugien wrote:


"Heather" wrote in message
. ..


"Sugien" wrote in message
et...


"Anon" Spamfree wrote in message
. ..


Just sit back and HONESTLY ask your self if you would want to live
in a world without the USA?

Yes. The world would quite possibly be a damn site better place without
the US or at least its leaders but then again we will never know will
we. The US has no respect for the individual or their lives. Retaining
the death penalty as it does and openly practising torture and the
denial of international law suggests the US, or its authorities, is at
best a primitive society and at worst a nation of savages.


No; because at the very least Hitler and most likely also the emperor of
Japan would now be in charge if it were not for the USA

Hello!!! You didn't even enter into WW2 until 1942, so don't give me
that crap!! While our guys were dying in battle for 2.5 years, the US
ignored the whole thing......until you got creamed at Pearl Harbour!!

I get so sick of hearing that if it wasn't for the US, we would be
speaking German!! You only get into wars for monetary gain.....not out
of caring about the rest of the world. The rest of the world tries to
keep the peace, not start wars.


That does not change the fact that if there were no USA then Germany
would have won.




Actually, had there not been snow and very cold weather in Germany's
campaign towards Moscow, Germany would have won the war. You can thank the
Russians that you weren't creamed by the Germans.


No actually our German scientists built and the USA deployed the atomic bomb
before their German scientists could and that won the war; but what actually
won the war was determination by all those on the winning side; but I still
stand by my original statement that if it were not for the USA, the world
would be in a far far WORSE condition



Yeah, while the boys were fighting the good fight, the good old boys in
the South were lynching black people. After the war, there was a senator
name McCarthy who rounded up all the communists in the USA. Shall we
also speak about the School of the Americas that taught the soldiers of
Latin American dictators how to torture?

In short, chum, you don't know what you're talking about.

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Just sit back and HONESTLY ask your self if you would want to
live
in a world without the USA?

Yes. The world would quite possibly be a damn site better place
without the US or at least its leaders but then again we will never
know will we. The US has no respect for the individual or their
lives. Retaining the death penalty as it does and openly practising
torture and the denial of international law suggests the US, or its
authorities, is at best a primitive society and at worst a nation of
savages.


No; because at the very least Hitler and most likely also the emperor
of Japan would now be in charge if it were not for the USA

Hello!!! You didn't even enter into WW2 until 1942, so don't give me
that crap!! While our guys were dying in battle for 2.5 years, the US
ignored the whole thing......until you got creamed at Pearl Harbour!!

I get so sick of hearing that if it wasn't for the US, we would be
speaking German!! You only get into wars for monetary gain.....not out
of caring about the rest of the world. The rest of the world tries to
keep the peace, not start wars.


That does not change the fact that if there were no USA then Germany
would have won.




Actually, had there not been snow and very cold weather in Germany's
campaign towards Moscow, Germany would have won the war. You can thank
the Russians that you weren't creamed by the Germans.


No actually our German scientists built and the USA deployed the atomic
bomb before their German scientists could and that won the war; but what
actually won the war was determination by all those on the winning side;
but I still stand by my original statement that if it were not for the
USA, the world would be in a far far WORSE condition

Yeah, while the boys were fighting the good fight, the good old boys in
the South were lynching black people. After the war, there was a senator
name McCarthy who rounded up all the communists in the USA. Shall we also
speak about the School of the Americas that taught the soldiers of Latin
American dictators how to torture?

In short, chum, you don't know what you're talking about.

I never said the USA was perfect only the best out there, and without out
the USA Canada and every other free thinking country out there would be prey
to every little want to be dictator that comes down the pike and without the
USA freedom would be the first causality