USA and Canada

Sugien wrote:

"Alias" wrote in message
...

Sugien wrote:


Other then it being rushed to market; because M$ needed more cash
flow during it's court trouble both in the USA and abroad, and when most
tech's coined the saying "Friends don't let friends use WinME". WinME
also being one small step from no longer being supported as what the rest
of the Win9x line isn't. It being buggy and full of more holes then XP
it lack of implementation of security maybe because it is nothing more
then a hold out for the Win9x line for those that resist change. It was
M$ way of milking money out of it's users just prior to releasing WinXP.

Again, what is your problem with Windows Me or do you even use it.



I used it long enough to make an informed decision to advise all my
customers to stay away from it. My WinME is gathering dust and I only
install it when I get a *new* customer that has it and won't listen to
reason and upgrade to XP

Oh, so you don't use Win Me, know all there is to know about it, and
you're trolling your political BS here. Now I understand ...

I said why I jumped in here, and it was because the USA was getting
trash talked in several different threads so I decided why not just make
a thread to deal with the trash talking about the USA in a single thread
and give all those that want to say she ite about the greatest country on
the planet a *single* thread to debate it. I should have known however
that when my points could *not* and were not proven inaccurate that some
here would resort to name calling; because their limited cranial capacity
prevented their debating the subject rationally so they try and prove how
tiny and closed their minds are by bandying about school yard taunts and
supposed put downs. None of which however change the fact that I put
forth that *if* the USA were not around the world would be much, much
worse off, and every petty want to be dictator would jump up and kill,
rob and mame more people then all the world wars put together.

Sheer and unadulterated speculation.

You're nothing but a troll.


I would say what you are but children may be reading this over their parents
shoulders

You have no questions regarding Windows Me. You're a troll and, sonny, I
am old enough to at least be your father if not your grandfather. Now,
go back outside and play with the other children and leave us adults to
discuss Win Me.

Alias

Sugien wrote:

"Alias" wrote in message
...

Sugien wrote:


Other then it being rushed to market; because M$ needed more cash
flow during it's court trouble both in the USA and abroad, and when most
tech's coined the saying "Friends don't let friends use WinME". WinME
also being one small step from no longer being supported as what the rest
of the Win9x line isn't. It being buggy and full of more holes then XP
it lack of implementation of security maybe because it is nothing more
then a hold out for the Win9x line for those that resist change. It was
M$ way of milking money out of it's users just prior to releasing WinXP.
I said why I jumped in here, and it was because the USA was getting
trash talked in several different threads so I decided why not just make
a thread to deal with the trash talking about the USA in a single thread
and give all those that want to say she ite about the greatest country on
the planet a *single* thread to debate it. I should have known however
that when my points could *not* and were not proven inaccurate that some
here would resort to name calling; because their limited cranial capacity
prevented their debating the subject rationally so they try and prove how
tiny and closed their minds are by bandying about school yard taunts and
supposed put downs. None of which however change the fact that I put
forth that *if* the USA were not around the world would be much, much
worse off, and every petty want to be dictator would jump up and kill,
rob and mame more people then all the world wars put together.



"Alias" wrote in message
...


I'm still trying to figure what your problem with Windows Me is. Can you
refresh my memory and post it again?

Thanks so much,

Love,

Alias

Sugien wrote:



Oh, ok, so when I do it , it is not allowed but when others bash the USA
in several threads it IS allowed? Ok, I see those that agree with you
can and those that do not agree with ;you are told to stfu, That is ok,
I expected nothing less from this cough, puke want to be help group
"Noel Paton" wrote in message
. ..



When you can actually create a rational argument (on present form that
could be around the year 2525), please feel free to come back and
present it - until then, please keep politics out of what should be a
technical newsgroup.
--
Noel Paton

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
NG's ( and try not to be too overtly stupid in the process!)

"Sugien" wrote in message
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You may wish that those like myself that dare to tell it like it
is, instead of like what you and others in other countries wish it
were like would stfu; but I can only call it like I see it and the
truth is that if the USA had never come into being, then the world
would be in a much much worse condition and there is not doubt in any
reasonable thinking person about that FACT!
I can understand those living in other countries wishing it were not
so and I even applaud their patriotism for their respective
countries; but that does not change the fact that the USA is the most
powerful country on earth and because of that fact alone the rest of
the world should be grateful that the USA believes in other countries
having freedom of self direction. Well that is unless a country
infringes on the rights of other countries freedoms.
The USA sees countries much like it sees it's own citizens and will
*allow* them as much freedom as they want until they try and use that
freedom to infringe upon the same freedoms enjoyed by others.
The other countries of the world should thank God that the USA is
NOT like Germany or Japan were back in WW2; because the USA could
have easily if they had wanted to, taken over the entire world back
at the close of WW2; but the USA believes in freedom for ALL too much
to do something like that.
Lets just look at it this way, lets say that over night the USA got
wiped off the face of the globe. How long do you think it would be
before Russia would be trying to run the world. What about China? if
the USA was not around to buffet them do you really think they would
not go for world conquest? If the USA disappeared over night, North
Korea would take over all of Korea the next day and then set their
sights on Japan, well unless China annexed them first. If the USA
were gone, the entire world may even evaporate into radioactive mist
as the other countries jockey to take over the globe.
The USA is NOT perfect; but compared to others we are closer then
most. I don't take the news at face value, you must remember I was in
Vietnam and I saw first hand how we would be doing one thing and the
public was told something else; but I also know that sometimes it
*is* necessary to keep the public in general and the press in
particular in the dark to keep solders safe.



Nagasaki, Hiroshima, Bagdad, Kabul are some of the places that the USA has
murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians and you're proud of
that? I'm not.


you can't read can you?

Stop projecting. It doesn't work here.

I never said it was perfect;

Murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians with WMDs is a bit
more than "not perfect".

but at least two of you
examples are not good ones; because had the USA not nuked Japan more would
have died then what died from the two nukes;

You don't know that. You are speculating again.

because the Japanese would have
fought to the last man before surrendering had we not nuked them


You don't know that. You are speculating again.


Although
I don't agree with the current war the US did remove at least ONE WMD and
the weapon of mass destruction which had already been used to kill tens of
thousands is called Sadam

Bush uses WMDs. The USA is the only country to use the WMD known as an
atomic bomb. Who do you think you're kidding, yourself?

Alias

Sugien wrote:

"Richard G. Harper" wrote in message
...

obligatory 'tis the season' post

Although troll baiting and troll bashing is legal in all 50 US states, the
District of Colombia, most Canadian provinces, and all of the European
Union, it is my personal experience that it never leads to anything good
or productive.

I have seen many a promising young life utterly and totally destroyed when
a fun evening of baiting or bashing wound up causing a momentary lapse of
concentration - with catastrophic result. With the increased speed of the
Information Superhighway (copyright 2000 by Al Gore, if you believe him
G) due to broadband penetration, it requires more concentration and
better navigational skills than ever before to remain safe and sound in
your journey.

Even worse is when you have a Momentary Lapse of Reason (copyright 1987 by
Pink Floyd) - at these speeds the result can be catastrophic. Other
people, often innocent bystanders, can get caught up in the ensuing
collision and may be horribly scarred or traumatized. You may never get
them to get on the Information Superhighway again, or it may take the use
of mood-altering agents to get them to relax enough to enjoy the journey.

So please, in the spirit of the holiday, I remind you:

FRIENDS DON'T LET FRIENDS BAIT OR BASH TROLLS.

(This message is presented as a public service and was paid for by the
Save an Electron from an Ignoble Death Committee)


But it is soooooo much fun bashing all the trolls here with the TRUTH, they
just can't stand it. Then they try and say I am the troll just because I
point out to them the error of their ways.

Only in your twisted mind.

Alias

Sugien wrote:

"Alias" wrote in message
...

Sugien wrote:

What part of when I said "The USA is NOT perfect" did you NOT understand?

What part of the USA being the country that is making the world very
dangerous do you not understand? Do you like the fact that NSA can spy on
you without your permission or a court order? Is this what you call
"democracy" and "human rights"? The USA is far from perfect, other than
being a perfect menace to world peace.


that does not change the fact that if the USA disappeared over night every
nation in the world would wake up and say "oh crap" because they would know
that they only need to bend over and kiss their butts good by; because then
the world would be in considerable more danger and most likely would not
last a year without disappearing into a radioactive dust cloud and atomic
winter.



There you go, speculating again and calling it the Truth. Can you
respond to content or are you merely a parrot that repeats the same
refrain over and over again?

Alias

"Alias" wrote in message
...
Sugien wrote:

"Alias" wrote in message
...

Sugien wrote:


Other then it being rushed to market; because M$ needed more cash
flow during it's court trouble both in the USA and abroad, and when
most tech's coined the saying "Friends don't let friends use WinME".
WinME also being one small step from no longer being supported as what
the rest of the Win9x line isn't. It being buggy and full of more
holes then XP it lack of implementation of security maybe because it is
nothing more then a hold out for the Win9x line for those that resist
change. It was M$ way of milking money out of it's users just prior to
releasing WinXP.

Again, what is your problem with Windows Me or do you even use it.



I used it long enough to make an informed decision to advise all my
customers to stay away from it. My WinME is gathering dust and I only
install it when I get a *new* customer that has it and won't listen to
reason and upgrade to XP

Oh, so you don't use Win Me, know all there is to know about it, and
you're trolling your political BS here. Now I understand ...

I said why I jumped in here, and it was because the USA was getting
trash talked in several different threads so I decided why not just
make a thread to deal with the trash talking about the USA in a single
thread and give all those that want to say she ite about the greatest
country on the planet a *single* thread to debate it. I should have
known however that when my points could *not* and were not proven
inaccurate that some here would resort to name calling; because their
limited cranial capacity prevented their debating the subject
rationally so they try and prove how tiny and closed their minds are by
bandying about school yard taunts and supposed put downs. None of
which however change the fact that I put forth that *if* the USA were
not around the world would be much, much worse off, and every petty
want to be dictator would jump up and kill, rob and mame more people
then all the world wars put together.

Sheer and unadulterated speculation.

You're nothing but a troll.


I would say what you are but children may be reading this over their
parents shoulders

You have no questions regarding Windows Me. You're a troll and, sonny, I
am old enough to at least be your father if not your grandfather. Now, go
back outside and play with the other children and leave us adults to
discuss Win Me.

hmm, I very much doubt that, I was born in 1953 when were you born sonny?

"Alias" wrote in message
...
Sugien wrote:

"Alias" wrote in message
...

Sugien wrote:


Other then it being rushed to market; because M$ needed more cash
flow during it's court trouble both in the USA and abroad, and when
most tech's coined the saying "Friends don't let friends use WinME".
WinME also being one small step from no longer being supported as what
the rest of the Win9x line isn't. It being buggy and full of more
holes then XP it lack of implementation of security maybe because it is
nothing more then a hold out for the Win9x line for those that resist
change. It was M$ way of milking money out of it's users just prior to
releasing WinXP.
I said why I jumped in here, and it was because the USA was getting
trash talked in several different threads so I decided why not just
make a thread to deal with the trash talking about the USA in a single
thread and give all those that want to say she ite about the greatest
country on the planet a *single* thread to debate it. I should have
known however that when my points could *not* and were not proven
inaccurate that some here would resort to name calling; because their
limited cranial capacity prevented their debating the subject
rationally so they try and prove how tiny and closed their minds are by
bandying about school yard taunts and supposed put downs. None of
which however change the fact that I put forth that *if* the USA were
not around the world would be much, much worse off, and every petty
want to be dictator would jump up and kill, rob and mame more people
then all the world wars put together.



"Alias" wrote in message
...


I'm still trying to figure what your problem with Windows Me is. Can
you refresh my memory and post it again?

Thanks so much,

Love,

Alias

Sugien wrote:



Oh, ok, so when I do it , it is not allowed but when others bash the
USA in several threads it IS allowed? Ok, I see those that agree
with you can and those that do not agree with ;you are told to stfu,
That is ok, I expected nothing less from this cough, puke want to be
help group
"Noel Paton" wrote in message
.. .



When you can actually create a rational argument (on present form
that could be around the year 2525), please feel free to come back
and present it - until then, please keep politics out of what should
be a technical newsgroup.
--
Noel Paton

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
NG's ( and try not to be too overtly stupid in the process!)

"Sugien" wrote in message
news:i4Odnfma__yZtz7enZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@brigh t.net...



You may wish that those like myself that dare to tell it like it
is, instead of like what you and others in other countries wish it
were like would stfu; but I can only call it like I see it and the
truth is that if the USA had never come into being, then the world
would be in a much much worse condition and there is not doubt in
any reasonable thinking person about that FACT!
I can understand those living in other countries wishing it were
not so and I even applaud their patriotism for their respective
countries; but that does not change the fact that the USA is the
most powerful country on earth and because of that fact alone the
rest of the world should be grateful that the USA believes in other
countries having freedom of self direction. Well that is unless a
country infringes on the rights of other countries freedoms.
The USA sees countries much like it sees it's own citizens and
will *allow* them as much freedom as they want until they try and
use that freedom to infringe upon the same freedoms enjoyed by
others.
The other countries of the world should thank God that the USA is
NOT like Germany or Japan were back in WW2; because the USA could
have easily if they had wanted to, taken over the entire world back
at the close of WW2; but the USA believes in freedom for ALL too
much to do something like that.
Lets just look at it this way, lets say that over night the USA
got wiped off the face of the globe. How long do you think it
would be before Russia would be trying to run the world. What
about China? if the USA was not around to buffet them do you really
think they would not go for world conquest? If the USA disappeared
over night, North Korea would take over all of Korea the next day
and then set their sights on Japan, well unless China annexed them
first. If the USA were gone, the entire world may even evaporate
into radioactive mist as the other countries jockey to take over
the globe.
The USA is NOT perfect; but compared to others we are closer then
most. I don't take the news at face value, you must remember I was
in Vietnam and I saw first hand how we would be doing one thing and
the public was told something else; but I also know that sometimes
it *is* necessary to keep the public in general and the press in
particular in the dark to keep solders safe.



Nagasaki, Hiroshima, Bagdad, Kabul are some of the places that the USA
has murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians and you're proud
of that? I'm not.


you can't read can you?

Stop projecting. It doesn't work here.

I never said it was perfect;

Murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians with WMDs is a bit
more than "not perfect".

but at least two of you
examples are not good ones; because had the USA not nuked Japan more
would have died then what died from the two nukes;

You don't know that. You are speculating again.

because the Japanese would have fought to the last man before
surrendering had we not nuked them


You don't know that. You are speculating again.


Although I don't agree with the current war the US did remove at least
ONE WMD and the weapon of mass destruction which had already been used to
kill tens of thousands is called Sadam

Bush uses WMDs. The USA is the only country to use the WMD known as an
atomic bomb. Who do you think you're kidding, yourself?

it is quite a bit more then speculating, I know for instance if I drop a
lead weight in a positive gravity field it will fall to the center of that
field. I know that if I throw something up unless it attains escape speed
it will fall back down. The same can be said for the statement that if the
USA were not here tomorrow the world would be a MUCH more dangerous place
and most likely would NOT survive a year without the USA

"Alias" wrote in message
...
Sugien wrote:

"Richard G. Harper" wrote in message
...

obligatory 'tis the season' post

Although troll baiting and troll bashing is legal in all 50 US states,
the District of Colombia, most Canadian provinces, and all of the
European Union, it is my personal experience that it never leads to
anything good or productive.

I have seen many a promising young life utterly and totally destroyed
when a fun evening of baiting or bashing wound up causing a momentary
lapse of concentration - with catastrophic result. With the increased
speed of the Information Superhighway (copyright 2000 by Al Gore, if you
believe him G) due to broadband penetration, it requires more
concentration and better navigational skills than ever before to remain
safe and sound in your journey.

Even worse is when you have a Momentary Lapse of Reason (copyright 1987
by Pink Floyd) - at these speeds the result can be catastrophic. Other
people, often innocent bystanders, can get caught up in the ensuing
collision and may be horribly scarred or traumatized. You may never get
them to get on the Information Superhighway again, or it may take the use
of mood-altering agents to get them to relax enough to enjoy the journey.

So please, in the spirit of the holiday, I remind you:

FRIENDS DON'T LET FRIENDS BAIT OR BASH TROLLS.

(This message is presented as a public service and was paid for by the
Save an Electron from an Ignoble Death Committee)


But it is soooooo much fun bashing all the trolls here with the TRUTH,
they just can't stand it. Then they try and say I am the troll just
because I point out to them the error of their ways.

Only in your twisted mind.

My mind is not the one trying to refute the truth, you and a few others are.
I think it is just that other countries can't stand the fact that Hitler and
Japan was WINNING the war until the USA got into it and then WE ended it.

"Alias" wrote in message
...
Sugien wrote:

"Alias" wrote in message
...

Sugien wrote:

What part of when I said "The USA is NOT perfect" did you NOT
understand?

What part of the USA being the country that is making the world very
dangerous do you not understand? Do you like the fact that NSA can spy on
you without your permission or a court order? Is this what you call
"democracy" and "human rights"? The USA is far from perfect, other than
being a perfect menace to world peace.


that does not change the fact that if the USA disappeared over night
every nation in the world would wake up and say "oh crap" because they
would know that they only need to bend over and kiss their butts good by;
because then the world would be in considerable more danger and most
likely would not last a year without disappearing into a radioactive dust
cloud and atomic winter.



There you go, speculating again and calling it the Truth. Can you respond
to content or are you merely a parrot that repeats the same refrain over
and over again?

It is truth and you can NOT show it to not. I of course can NOT prove a
negative because NO one can prove a negative or do you not know the rules of
logic? IOW, I can't prove what it would be like without the USA; but I can
put forth the premise and draw conclusions. You can't or won't listen to
reason.

"Sugien" wrote in message
...

My mind is not the one trying to refute the truth, you and a few others
are. I think it is just that other countries can't stand the fact that
Hitler and Japan was WINNING the war until the USA got into it and then WE
ended it.


The FACT is that the US came into the war only because they were forced to
by the Japanese bombardment of Pearl Harbour (and the president tried very
hard to wriggle out of that, too!) - and if that hadn't happened, they may
well have gone in on the side of the Germans.

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
"Sugien" wrote in message
...

My mind is not the one trying to refute the truth, you and a few others
are. I think it is just that other countries can't stand the fact that
Hitler and Japan was WINNING the war until the USA got into it and then
WE ended it.


The FACT is that the US came into the war only because they were forced to
by the Japanese bombardment of Pearl Harbour (and the president tried very
hard to wriggle out of that, too!) - and if that hadn't happened, they may
well have gone in on the side of the Germans.

That still does NOT negate the fact that without the USA the second world
war WOULD have been won by Hitler; because after Hitler conquered everyone
he would then have did away with Japan with HIS NUKES; because Germany was
very close to perfecting the atomic bomb and he had missiles the V1 and V2
to deliver them with. Had Japan not attacked the USA Germany would have had
time to finish their atomic bombs and with them there is not ANY DOUBT in
any rational mind that Germany would have ruled the world; because they
would have been the ONLY atomic nation and make no mistake they would have
USED them on EVERY nation that did NOT surrender.