Can't make up my mind . .

I've had some really good advice from you guys before, so I have another
question.

Background: I don't really know what I want to do.
I have W98SE, and I'm happy with it - except that at times it seems
circumstances (planned obsolecense?) dictate that I must have XP.
Example: a group I work with uses Publisher 2003 - under a group lisense (we
all work for the same organization) I could get a copy. BUT Pub 2003 requires
XP. So, I ended up buying Publisher 2002 - at half the cost of a Windows XP
upgrade. There's another example of a s/w program I was going to use but it
also required XP. AND, I can't use the latest version of MusicMatch JukeBox.
Since I like 98SE too much, I am (was?) toying with installing a dual boot
system.
However, on investigating that, I'm not sure I want to tackle that.
Next possibility: Buy Windows XP upgrade. (my computer will handle it).
However, I'm the kind of guy who likes to clean my machine about once a year
(using "Format C" and then re-installing my programs).

Question: IF I were to buy and install Windows XP upgrade, and then IF I
decided to clean the system out in a year or so, and fresh-install the OS,
could this be done DIRECTLY from the Windows XP upgrade disk, OR must I then
first install 98SE again, and follow it up by installing the upgrade?

Thanks (again), folks, for your help!

Ivan - -

A wise monkey is a monkey who doesn't monkey
with an other monkey's monkey.

Upgrades can be "clean installed" by simply showing Setup the
installation media for the qualifying OS. so long as you have a standard
Windows 98 or 98SE or ME installation CD. You just boot to the XP Setup
and follow instructions.

If you only have a computer vendor's "Restore" disk, or similar, then
you have to first install the original OS and then upgrade in place.

However, I'd still recommend a dual-boot scenario for you, s.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Ivan" wrote in message
...
I've had some really good advice from you guys before, so I have
another
question.

Background: I don't really know what I want to do.
I have W98SE, and I'm happy with it - except that at times it seems
circumstances (planned obsolecense?) dictate that I must have XP.
Example: a group I work with uses Publisher 2003 - under a group
lisense (we
all work for the same organization) I could get a copy. BUT Pub 2003
requires
XP. So, I ended up buying Publisher 2002 - at half the cost of a
Windows XP
upgrade. There's another example of a s/w program I was going to use
but it
also required XP. AND, I can't use the latest version of MusicMatch
JukeBox.
Since I like 98SE too much, I am (was?) toying with installing a dual
boot
system.
However, on investigating that, I'm not sure I want to tackle that.
Next possibility: Buy Windows XP upgrade. (my computer will handle
it).
However, I'm the kind of guy who likes to clean my machine about once
a year
(using "Format C" and then re-installing my programs).

Question: IF I were to buy and install Windows XP upgrade, and then
IF I
decided to clean the system out in a year or so, and fresh-install
the OS,
could this be done DIRECTLY from the Windows XP upgrade disk, OR must
I then
first install 98SE again, and follow it up by installing the upgrade?

Thanks (again), folks, for your help!

Ivan - -

A wise monkey is a monkey who doesn't monkey
with an other monkey's monkey.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
Upgrades can be "clean installed" by simply showing Setup the
installation media for the qualifying OS. so long as you have a standard
Windows 98 or 98SE or ME installation CD. You just boot to the XP Setup
and follow instructions.

If you only have a computer vendor's "Restore" disk, or similar, then
you have to first install the original OS and then upgrade in place.

However, I'd still recommend a dual-boot scenario for you, s.



good advice...
just be sure to install XP on a sperate partition from win98

On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:24:55 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune"
wrote:

Upgrades can be "clean installed" by simply showing Setup the
installation media for the qualifying OS. so long as you have a standard
Windows 98 or 98SE or ME installation CD. You just boot to the XP Setup
and follow instructions.

If you only have a computer vendor's "Restore" disk, or similar, then
you have to first install the original OS and then upgrade in place.

Thanks for your reply, Gary! I appreciate your sharing your expertise.

However, I'd still recommend a dual-boot scenario for you, s.

In a way, I would like to do exactly that - perhaps after another courage pill
(don't read anything into this - I don't do drugs, and drink sparingly).

Guess I'll just have to read all the stuff you (and others) recommended in an
earlier string, get all my facts together, and DO IT . . . .

Thanks again, Gary!





Ivan - -

A wise monkey is a monkey who doesn't monkey
with an other monkey's monkey.

In a way, I would like to do exactly that - perhaps after another courage
pill
(don't read anything into this - I don't do drugs, and drink sparingly).

i had a cat, and some fool just let it out of my bag, anyone see who
it was?

Be aware that if you reinstall XP from scratch, you will have to
reactivate it.

As Gary said, dual boot is the way to go. It isn't that difficult. I
have done
it like this:

Start with clean disk, no prtitions.
Boot using Win 98 startup disk
Partition your Win 98 space, nothing else.
Install Win 98 as usual
Make sure the CDROM is configured to boot bootable CDs
Reboot PC, insert Win XP CD in the drive and boot from there.
Install Win XP, partition another space on the drive for it. (See note
below)
Configure XP to connec to Internet. Test connection
Once connection is up and you are online, activate Win XP.

Note:
In the procedure above I created two partitions, one for Win 98SE
and the other for Win XP, but you might want one or two more for
data storage. If you do, then you have to decide whether you want
a specific area for Win 98 stuff and another for Win XP stuff or
whether one data storage partition is ok for both.

If you choose one for both, make sure that the partition (after being
created) is formatted as FAT32. Both Win XP and 98 can read and
write FAT 32 partitions, but only Win XP can read/write NTFS
partitions. Why create two? Well if you want your Win XP to stay
seperate and private from the Win 98, then create a partiion for
Win XP data stuff and format it using NTFS. Win 98 will never
see it. Why have one shared area? It is practical and both OSes
can share data (like Word docs, Excel xlses, etc.). Your PC,
your needs, your choice g

Good luck!
Saga


"Ivan" wrote in message
...
I've had some really good advice from you guys before, so I have
another
question.

Background: I don't really know what I want to do.
I have W98SE, and I'm happy with it - except that at times it seems
circumstances (planned obsolecense?) dictate that I must have XP.
Example: a group I work with uses Publisher 2003 - under a group
lisense (we
all work for the same organization) I could get a copy. BUT Pub 2003
requires
XP. So, I ended up buying Publisher 2002 - at half the cost of a
Windows XP
upgrade. There's another example of a s/w program I was going to use
but it
also required XP. AND, I can't use the latest version of MusicMatch
JukeBox.
Since I like 98SE too much, I am (was?) toying with installing a dual
boot
system.
However, on investigating that, I'm not sure I want to tackle that.
Next possibility: Buy Windows XP upgrade. (my computer will handle
it).
However, I'm the kind of guy who likes to clean my machine about once
a year
(using "Format C" and then re-installing my programs).

Question: IF I were to buy and install Windows XP upgrade, and then
IF I
decided to clean the system out in a year or so, and fresh-install
the OS,
could this be done DIRECTLY from the Windows XP upgrade disk, OR must
I then
first install 98SE again, and follow it up by installing the upgrade?

Thanks (again), folks, for your help!

Ivan - -

A wise monkey is a monkey who doesn't monkey
with an other monkey's monkey.

On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:24:55 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune"
wrote:

However, I'd still recommend a dual-boot scenario for you, s.

Ok - I've decided to follow your advice, and now I am this far:

I loaded BootIt NG, and ran it. I now have HD 0: Drive "C" - 5 GB; Drive "E"
the rest with nothing on it.
My HD1 (still Drive "D") is not partitioned.

Now, when I start my computer, I get a panel "Boot Menu"
The only entry on it is "Windows 98SE"
There are three buttons: "BOOT" "MTCE" and "DIRECT BOOT"

When I go on the "Direct Boot" menu, and click on "Drive E" and then click on
"Boot", it tells me:
"This partition does not contain an operating system.
If you are about to install an new OS, insert the installation diskette into
Drive "A".
Press any key to run the BIOS bootstrap loader"

I'm about to go out (tomorrow?) and buy the Windows XP upgrade CD.
However, I don't think it will have an "installation diskette" included in the
package.

I do, however, have a W98 start-up diskette.
Should I try to install W98SE on Drive "E", and then attempt to upgrade it to
XP?

One other question (not the most important) is: Once I have dual boot
installed, will I always have to select one of the two systems manually, or can
the menu be set to select one of them (say after 10 - or maybe 5 - seconds of
not selecting the other one)?

Also, will I need BootIt NG as a slection menu, or are there more simple,
perhaps less costly ways to do this? Then again, if there are good reasons to
keep BootIt NG, it won't break me to buy it.

Thanks, folks, for the answers to these questions (and for the earlier
encouragement).
No doubt, I'll have more questions before this is over.


Ivan - -

A wise monkey is a monkey who doesn't monkey
with an other monkey's monkey.

Just want you to know that I saw this latest post and will respond
tomorrow morning, PST, if possible. There are definitely some things
that need clarifying, but I simply don't have the time right now.
Suggest you hold off doing more than buy the XP Upgrade edition until
we've discussed it further.

Are you and philo one and the same person, or did you just hitch a ride
on this thread, s?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"John" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:24:55 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune"

wrote:

However, I'd still recommend a dual-boot scenario for you, s.

Ok - I've decided to follow your advice, and now I am this far:

I loaded BootIt NG, and ran it. I now have HD 0: Drive "C" - 5 GB;
Drive "E"
the rest with nothing on it.
My HD1 (still Drive "D") is not partitioned.

Now, when I start my computer, I get a panel "Boot Menu"
The only entry on it is "Windows 98SE"
There are three buttons: "BOOT" "MTCE" and "DIRECT BOOT"

When I go on the "Direct Boot" menu, and click on "Drive E" and then
click on
"Boot", it tells me:
"This partition does not contain an operating system.
If you are about to install an new OS, insert the installation
diskette into
Drive "A".
Press any key to run the BIOS bootstrap loader"

I'm about to go out (tomorrow?) and buy the Windows XP upgrade CD.
However, I don't think it will have an "installation diskette"
included in the
package.

I do, however, have a W98 start-up diskette.
Should I try to install W98SE on Drive "E", and then attempt to
upgrade it to
XP?

One other question (not the most important) is: Once I have dual boot
installed, will I always have to select one of the two systems
manually, or can
the menu be set to select one of them (say after 10 - or maybe 5 -
seconds of
not selecting the other one)?

Also, will I need BootIt NG as a slection menu, or are there more
simple,
perhaps less costly ways to do this? Then again, if there are good
reasons to
keep BootIt NG, it won't break me to buy it.

Thanks, folks, for the answers to these questions (and for the
earlier
encouragement).
No doubt, I'll have more questions before this is over.


Ivan - -

A wise monkey is a monkey who doesn't monkey
with an other monkey's monkey.

Well I guess I was a bit naughty 'cos I bought xp home upgrade version and the only probs I had was the Norton one explained in another thread. I personally like xp better and find it more user friendly but each to their own

Originally Posted by Gary S. Terhune

Just want you to know that I saw this latest post and will respond
tomorrow morning, PST, if possible. There are definitely some things
that need clarifying, but I simply don't have the time right now.
Suggest you hold off doing more than buy the XP Upgrade edition until
we've discussed it further.

Are you and philo one and the same person, or did you just hitch a ride
on this thread, s?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"John" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:24:55 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune"

wrote:

However, I'd still recommend a dual-boot scenario for you, s.

Ok - I've decided to follow your advice, and now I am this far:

I loaded BootIt NG, and ran it. I now have HD 0: Drive "C" - 5 GB;
Drive "E"
the rest with nothing on it.
My HD1 (still Drive "D") is not partitioned.

Now, when I start my computer, I get a panel "Boot Menu"
The only entry on it is "Windows 98SE"
There are three buttons: "BOOT" "MTCE" and "DIRECT BOOT"

When I go on the "Direct Boot" menu, and click on "Drive E" and then
click on
"Boot", it tells me:
"This partition does not contain an operating system.
If you are about to install an new OS, insert the installation
diskette into
Drive "A".
Press any key to run the BIOS bootstrap loader"

I'm about to go out (tomorrow?) and buy the Windows XP upgrade CD.
However, I don't think it will have an "installation diskette"
included in the
package.

I do, however, have a W98 start-up diskette.
Should I try to install W98SE on Drive "E", and then attempt to
upgrade it to
XP?

One other question (not the most important) is: Once I have dual boot
installed, will I always have to select one of the two systems
manually, or can
the menu be set to select one of them (say after 10 - or maybe 5 -
seconds of
not selecting the other one)?

Also, will I need BootIt NG as a slection menu, or are there more
simple,
perhaps less costly ways to do this? Then again, if there are good
reasons to
keep BootIt NG, it won't break me to buy it.

Thanks, folks, for the answers to these questions (and for the
earlier
encouragement).
No doubt, I'll have more questions before this is over.


Ivan - -

A wise monkey is a monkey who doesn't monkey
with an other monkey's monkey.

Not sure what you mean when you cop to being "a bit naughty". My only
concern is that John take full account of all the parameters before
diving into repartitioning.

Only have time for drive-by posting today, but maybe tonight I can get
into the nitty-gritty.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"PSYCHOPIXIE" wrote in message
...

Well I guess I was a bit naughty 'cos I bought xp home upgrade version
and the only probs I had was the Norton one explained in another
thread. I personally like xp better and find it more user friendly but
each to their own

Gary S. Terhune Wrote:
Just want you to know that I saw this latest post and will respond
tomorrow morning, PST, if possible. There are definitely some things
that need clarifying, but I simply don't have the time right now.
Suggest you hold off doing more than buy the XP Upgrade edition
until
we've discussed it further.

Are you and philo one and the same person, or did you just hitch a
ride
on this thread, s?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"John" wrote in message
...-
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:24:55 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune"-
-
wrote:
-
However, I'd still recommend a dual-boot scenario for you, s.-

Ok - I've decided to follow your advice, and now I am this far:

I loaded BootIt NG, and ran it. I now have HD 0: Drive "C" - 5
GB;-
Drive "E"-
the rest with nothing on it.
My HD1 (still Drive "D") is not partitioned.

Now, when I start my computer, I get a panel "Boot Menu"
The only entry on it is "Windows 98SE"
There are three buttons: "BOOT" "MTCE" and "DIRECT BOOT"

When I go on the "Direct Boot" menu, and click on "Drive E" and
then-
click on-
"Boot", it tells me:
"This partition does not contain an operating system.
If you are about to install an new OS, insert the installation-
diskette into-
Drive "A".
Press any key to run the BIOS bootstrap loader"

I'm about to go out (tomorrow?) and buy the Windows XP upgrade CD.
However, I don't think it will have an "installation diskette"-
included in the-
package.

I do, however, have a W98 start-up diskette.
Should I try to install W98SE on Drive "E", and then attempt to-
upgrade it to-
XP?

One other question (not the most important) is: Once I have dual
boot
installed, will I always have to select one of the two systems-
manually, or can-
the menu be set to select one of them (say after 10 - or maybe 5 --
seconds of-
not selecting the other one)?

Also, will I need BootIt NG as a slection menu, or are there more-
simple,-
perhaps less costly ways to do this? Then again, if there are good-
reasons to-
keep BootIt NG, it won't break me to buy it.

Thanks, folks, for the answers to these questions (and for the-
earlier-
encouragement).
No doubt, I'll have more questions before this is over.


Ivan - -

A wise monkey is a monkey who doesn't monkey
with an other monkey's monkey.-


--
PSYCHOPIXIE