Can hardware, like a mobo, interfere with win98SE?

Can hardware, like a mobo, interfere with win98SE?

When looking at some motherboards and downloading manuals and software
related to them, at the ASUS site, for example, I noticed that in the
process of finding the files, the computer asked me what operating
system I had, and provided a list of OSes.

In one case win98 was listed, and in another, it wasn't. Only XP was
(and some others)

Does this mean that the mobo won't work with win98SE?


I asked some people and was told that the problem is getting drivers.

Does that mean drivers for onboard hardware that used to me added on
with a plug in card? Like sound?

If sound drivers that run on win98 aren't available for a mobo, isn't
it possible to disable the onboard sound and use a sound card that
comes with its own drivers?


It used to be one could tell in advance what he was buying and if it
would work. But things are pretty complicated now. I would hate to
assemble a whole computer and find I couldn't run win98 on it.

Have any of you had a problem running win98SE because of the hardware
used?

Thanks

mm wrote in
:

Can hardware, like a mobo, interfere with win98SE?

When looking at some motherboards and downloading manuals
and software related to them, at the ASUS site, for
example, I noticed that in the process of finding the
files, the computer asked me what operating system I had,
and provided a list of OSes.

In one case win98 was listed, and in another, it wasn't.
Only XP was (and some others)

Does this mean that the mobo won't work with win98SE?

This has been causing me to lose sleep for a few years now, but
philo recently told me that even though new MB's do not
officially support 98SE (or whatever OS) that OS will in all
probability run on ANY new motherboard, just perhaps not as well
as it would with specific MS-approved drivers. As to drivers for
the audio and video chips, I don't know how that works exactly,
but surely a sound card is a BASIC if you have anything like
half decent ears and a basic video card is a few dollars.

Corrections welcome.

Upon re-reading I realized the sound/graphics card will need
drivers too... Well, maybe the MB ones do not... And old sound
cards and video cards can be found very easily all over the
place. There's probably several million late 90's SoundBlasters
sitting in people's basements and garages /just in the US alone/
right now.


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the quote. But it's true.)

mm wrote in
:

Can hardware, like a mobo, interfere with win98SE?

When looking at some motherboards and downloading manuals
and software related to them, at the ASUS site, for
example, I noticed that in the process of finding the
files, the computer asked me what operating system I had,
and provided a list of OSes.

In one case win98 was listed, and in another, it wasn't.
Only XP was (and some others)

Does this mean that the mobo won't work with win98SE?

This has been causing me to lose sleep for a few years now, but
philo recently told me that even though new MB's do not
officially support 98SE (or whatever OS) that OS will in all
probability run on ANY new motherboard, just perhaps not as well
as it would with specific MS-approved drivers. As to drivers for
the audio and video chips, I don't know how that works exactly,
but surely a sound card is a BASIC if you have anything like
half decent ears and a basic video card is a few dollars.

Corrections welcome.

Upon re-reading I realized the sound/graphics card will need
drivers too... Well, maybe the MB ones do not... And old sound
cards and video cards can be found very easily all over the
place. There's probably several million late 90's SoundBlasters
sitting in people's basements and garages /just in the US alone/
right now.


--
There are only two classifications of disk drives: Broken drives
and those that will break later.
- Chuck Armstrong (This one I think, http://www.cleanreg.com/,
not the ball player. But who knows. I can't remember where I got
the quote. But it's true.)

In message , thanatoid
writes:
[]
Does this mean that the mobo won't work with win98SE?

This has been causing me to lose sleep for a few years now, but
philo recently told me that even though new MB's do not
officially support 98SE (or whatever OS) that OS will in all
probability run on ANY new motherboard, just perhaps not as well
as it would with specific MS-approved drivers. As to drivers for
the audio and video chips, I don't know how that works exactly,
but surely a sound card is a BASIC if you have anything like
half decent ears and a basic video card is a few dollars.

Assuming you can find sound and video cards that can even be plugged in
to your new mobo. For sound you're probably OK for a bit longer, as the
PCI slot isn't dead yet (though I understand its replacement - PCIe or
something? - is coming up fast, and I don't know how backward-compatible
it is), but PCI _graphics_ cards _are_ now very long in the tooth and
may be unreliable, and even if the new mobo has an AGP slot - i. e. the
on-board video can be disabled - it may be a later version of AGP that
earlier graphics cards won't work in (voltages, speeds, ...)

Corrections welcome.

Upon re-reading I realized the sound/graphics card will need
drivers too... Well, maybe the MB ones do not... And old sound

Oh, they definitely do; many of the chipsets do still have '98 drivers
(though need hunting for!), but I guess not all.

cards and video cards can be found very easily all over the
place. There's probably several million late 90's SoundBlasters
sitting in people's basements and garages /just in the US alone/
right now.

Indeed.

There may also be _aspects_ of a new mobo that won't work with older
OSs: mine has a "Genius chipset", which I _think_ just gives better
access to the BIOS settings from within XP, but other things like
multicore processors I think are not supported on '9x. (The mobo will
still run the OS [and probably faster than anything of the same date],
just only use half or less of the processor.)

Come on over to the dark side - it's being lightened all the time, as MS
drift off into the Vista and now 7 worlds ...
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** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously
outdated thoughts on PCs. **

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In message , thanatoid
writes:
[]
Does this mean that the mobo won't work with win98SE?

This has been causing me to lose sleep for a few years now, but
philo recently told me that even though new MB's do not
officially support 98SE (or whatever OS) that OS will in all
probability run on ANY new motherboard, just perhaps not as well
as it would with specific MS-approved drivers. As to drivers for
the audio and video chips, I don't know how that works exactly,
but surely a sound card is a BASIC if you have anything like
half decent ears and a basic video card is a few dollars.

Assuming you can find sound and video cards that can even be plugged in
to your new mobo. For sound you're probably OK for a bit longer, as the
PCI slot isn't dead yet (though I understand its replacement - PCIe or
something? - is coming up fast, and I don't know how backward-compatible
it is), but PCI _graphics_ cards _are_ now very long in the tooth and
may be unreliable, and even if the new mobo has an AGP slot - i. e. the
on-board video can be disabled - it may be a later version of AGP that
earlier graphics cards won't work in (voltages, speeds, ...)

Corrections welcome.

Upon re-reading I realized the sound/graphics card will need
drivers too... Well, maybe the MB ones do not... And old sound

Oh, they definitely do; many of the chipsets do still have '98 drivers
(though need hunting for!), but I guess not all.

cards and video cards can be found very easily all over the
place. There's probably several million late 90's SoundBlasters
sitting in people's basements and garages /just in the US alone/
right now.

Indeed.

There may also be _aspects_ of a new mobo that won't work with older
OSs: mine has a "Genius chipset", which I _think_ just gives better
access to the BIOS settings from within XP, but other things like
multicore processors I think are not supported on '9x. (The mobo will
still run the OS [and probably faster than anything of the same date],
just only use half or less of the processor.)

Come on over to the dark side - it's being lightened all the time, as MS
drift off into the Vista and now 7 worlds ...
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously
outdated thoughts on PCs. **

Hit any user to continue.

thanatoid wrote:
mm wrote in
:

Can hardware, like a mobo, interfere with win98SE?

When looking at some motherboards and downloading manuals
and software related to them, at the ASUS site, for
example, I noticed that in the process of finding the
files, the computer asked me what operating system I had,
and provided a list of OSes.

In one case win98 was listed, and in another, it wasn't.
Only XP was (and some others)

Does this mean that the mobo won't work with win98SE?

This has been causing me to lose sleep for a few years now, but
philo recently told me that even though new MB's do not
officially support 98SE (or whatever OS) that OS will in all
probability run on ANY new motherboard, just perhaps not as well
as it would with specific MS-approved drivers. As to drivers for
the audio and video chips, I don't know how that works exactly,
but surely a sound card is a BASIC if you have anything like
half decent ears and a basic video card is a few dollars.

Corrections welcome.

Upon re-reading I realized the sound/graphics card will need
drivers too... Well, maybe the MB ones do not... And old sound
cards and video cards can be found very easily all over the
place. There's probably several million late 90's SoundBlasters
sitting in people's basements and garages /just in the US alone/
right now.





Yes

In general...win98 will at least 'function' on any newer mobo that has
IDE/ATA headers.

If there are no chipset drivers available then the controller will
function less than optimally and of course without drivers...on-board
components such as network and sound...will not work


Considering the fact that P-III mobos are still available cheaply from
the surplus vendors it really would not make sense to buy a new mobo if
one is specifically going to be running win98.


OTOH if one wanted to run a newer OS such as XP, Win7 or Linux...
Win98 could be run within a virtual machine

and since the hardware is emulated...most (or all) of it would work

thanatoid wrote:
mm wrote in
:

Can hardware, like a mobo, interfere with win98SE?

When looking at some motherboards and downloading manuals
and software related to them, at the ASUS site, for
example, I noticed that in the process of finding the
files, the computer asked me what operating system I had,
and provided a list of OSes.

In one case win98 was listed, and in another, it wasn't.
Only XP was (and some others)

Does this mean that the mobo won't work with win98SE?

This has been causing me to lose sleep for a few years now, but
philo recently told me that even though new MB's do not
officially support 98SE (or whatever OS) that OS will in all
probability run on ANY new motherboard, just perhaps not as well
as it would with specific MS-approved drivers. As to drivers for
the audio and video chips, I don't know how that works exactly,
but surely a sound card is a BASIC if you have anything like
half decent ears and a basic video card is a few dollars.

Corrections welcome.

Upon re-reading I realized the sound/graphics card will need
drivers too... Well, maybe the MB ones do not... And old sound
cards and video cards can be found very easily all over the
place. There's probably several million late 90's SoundBlasters
sitting in people's basements and garages /just in the US alone/
right now.





Yes

In general...win98 will at least 'function' on any newer mobo that has
IDE/ATA headers.

If there are no chipset drivers available then the controller will
function less than optimally and of course without drivers...on-board
components such as network and sound...will not work


Considering the fact that P-III mobos are still available cheaply from
the surplus vendors it really would not make sense to buy a new mobo if
one is specifically going to be running win98.


OTOH if one wanted to run a newer OS such as XP, Win7 or Linux...
Win98 could be run within a virtual machine

and since the hardware is emulated...most (or all) of it would work

On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 06:44:22 -0600, philo
wrote:

thanatoid wrote:
mm wrote in
:

Can hardware, like a mobo, interfere with win98SE?

When looking at some motherboards and downloading manuals
and software related to them, at the ASUS site, for
example, I noticed that in the process of finding the
files, the computer asked me what operating system I had,
and provided a list of OSes.

In one case win98 was listed, and in another, it wasn't.
Only XP was (and some others)

Does this mean that the mobo won't work with win98SE?

This has been causing me to lose sleep for a few years now, but
philo recently told me that even though new MB's do not
officially support 98SE (or whatever OS) that OS will in all
probability run on ANY new motherboard, just perhaps not as well
as it would with specific MS-approved drivers. As to drivers for
the audio and video chips, I don't know how that works exactly,
but surely a sound card is a BASIC if you have anything like
half decent ears and a basic video card is a few dollars.

Corrections welcome.

Upon re-reading I realized the sound/graphics card will need
drivers too... Well, maybe the MB ones do not... And old sound
cards and video cards can be found very easily all over the
place. There's probably several million late 90's SoundBlasters
sitting in people's basements and garages /just in the US alone/
right now.





Yes

In general...win98 will at least 'function' on any newer mobo that has
IDE/ATA headers.

If there are no chipset drivers available then the controller will
function less than optimally and of course without drivers...on-board
components such as network and sound...will not work


Considering the fact that P-III mobos are still available cheaply from
the surplus vendors it really would not make sense to buy a new mobo if
one is specifically going to be running win98.

The "trouble" is that a friend gives me his old hardware, and it's
better than mine (some of which he gave me five years ago) and one of
the mobos is listed for win98, but the even newer, better, faster one
isn't. I like having both OSes in the same box, for a lot of
reasons, five of them important.

OTOH if one wanted to run a newer OS such as XP, Win7 or Linux...
Win98 could be run within a virtual machine

I had a heard of that. That's a good idea. Does anyone think that
won't work?

and since the hardware is emulated...most (or all) of it would work

I guess I can get details when the time comes, in a year or two.

Thanks.

On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 06:44:22 -0600, philo
wrote:

thanatoid wrote:
mm wrote in
:

Can hardware, like a mobo, interfere with win98SE?

When looking at some motherboards and downloading manuals
and software related to them, at the ASUS site, for
example, I noticed that in the process of finding the
files, the computer asked me what operating system I had,
and provided a list of OSes.

In one case win98 was listed, and in another, it wasn't.
Only XP was (and some others)

Does this mean that the mobo won't work with win98SE?

This has been causing me to lose sleep for a few years now, but
philo recently told me that even though new MB's do not
officially support 98SE (or whatever OS) that OS will in all
probability run on ANY new motherboard, just perhaps not as well
as it would with specific MS-approved drivers. As to drivers for
the audio and video chips, I don't know how that works exactly,
but surely a sound card is a BASIC if you have anything like
half decent ears and a basic video card is a few dollars.

Corrections welcome.

Upon re-reading I realized the sound/graphics card will need
drivers too... Well, maybe the MB ones do not... And old sound
cards and video cards can be found very easily all over the
place. There's probably several million late 90's SoundBlasters
sitting in people's basements and garages /just in the US alone/
right now.





Yes

In general...win98 will at least 'function' on any newer mobo that has
IDE/ATA headers.

If there are no chipset drivers available then the controller will
function less than optimally and of course without drivers...on-board
components such as network and sound...will not work


Considering the fact that P-III mobos are still available cheaply from
the surplus vendors it really would not make sense to buy a new mobo if
one is specifically going to be running win98.

The "trouble" is that a friend gives me his old hardware, and it's
better than mine (some of which he gave me five years ago) and one of
the mobos is listed for win98, but the even newer, better, faster one
isn't. I like having both OSes in the same box, for a lot of
reasons, five of them important.

OTOH if one wanted to run a newer OS such as XP, Win7 or Linux...
Win98 could be run within a virtual machine

I had a heard of that. That's a good idea. Does anyone think that
won't work?

and since the hardware is emulated...most (or all) of it would work

I guess I can get details when the time comes, in a year or two.

Thanks.

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"mm" wrote in message
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Can hardware, like a mobo, interfere with win98SE?

When looking at some motherboards and downloading manuals and software
related to them, at the ASUS site, for example, I noticed that in the
process of finding the files, the computer asked me what operating
system I had, and provided a list of OSes.

In one case win98 was listed, and in another, it wasn't. Only XP was
(and some others)

Does this mean that the mobo won't work with win98SE?


I asked some people and was told that the problem is getting drivers.

Does that mean drivers for onboard hardware that used to me added on
with a plug in card? Like sound?

If sound drivers that run on win98 aren't available for a mobo, isn't
it possible to disable the onboard sound and use a sound card that
comes with its own drivers?


It used to be one could tell in advance what he was buying and if it
would work. But things are pretty complicated now. I would hate to
assemble a whole computer and find I couldn't run win98 on it.

Have any of you had a problem running win98SE because of the hardware
used?

Thanks