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Trying to change jumper settings-Whole computer no longer works
I had a computer where 98 was installed on a small hard drive, and was
using the bigger hard drive for files. I had to reinstall 98, and decided to move everything to the bigger hard drive. I backed up my files, then opened up the computer, disconnected the power and data cable from the small hard drive, and changed the jumper settings on the big hard drive to what the sticker on the hard drive said was "Master." I plugged the computer in, it booted on it's own, but nothing, not even an error message came up on the screen. I tried not havingn a jumper in the hard drive, replacing the video card, replacing the old settings, but nothing works. I tried not to touch anything else in the computer, although some plires got a little ways down the heat sink, but I stopped them before they touched the processer. I was not grounded, but did not feel any static electricty. It seems weird that not even the BIOS will come up. Did I breaky my (Old) comptuer somehow, or is there a fix? |
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Trying to change jumper settings-Whole computer no longer works
Most old hard drives would work on the main board with a 40 wire cable. Most
if not all new hard drives need an 80 wire cable. I have seen where some new drives would work when set as a slave on the middle connection with only a 40 wire cable. Since you changed this to master my first thing would be to try an 80 wire cable if you are currently using a 40. Vince wrote in message ups.com... I had a computer where 98 was installed on a small hard drive, and was using the bigger hard drive for files. I had to reinstall 98, and decided to move everything to the bigger hard drive. I backed up my files, then opened up the computer, disconnected the power and data cable from the small hard drive, and changed the jumper settings on the big hard drive to what the sticker on the hard drive said was "Master." I plugged the computer in, it booted on it's own, but nothing, not even an error message came up on the screen. I tried not havingn a jumper in the hard drive, replacing the video card, replacing the old settings, but nothing works. I tried not to touch anything else in the computer, although some plires got a little ways down the heat sink, but I stopped them before they touched the processer. I was not grounded, but did not feel any static electricty. It seems weird that not even the BIOS will come up. Did I breaky my (Old) comptuer somehow, or is there a fix? |
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Trying to change jumper settings-Whole computer no longer works
Not enough info. What happened to the small drive--is it no longer being
used? This is important because some hard drives have two master settings--one for when it is the sole drive and another when it is being used with another hard drive. -- Regards Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98 Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour Knowledge Base Info: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo wrote in message ups.com... I had a computer where 98 was installed on a small hard drive, and was using the bigger hard drive for files. I had to reinstall 98, and decided to move everything to the bigger hard drive. I backed up my files, then opened up the computer, disconnected the power and data cable from the small hard drive, and changed the jumper settings on the big hard drive to what the sticker on the hard drive said was "Master." I plugged the computer in, it booted on it's own, but nothing, not even an error message came up on the screen. I tried not havingn a jumper in the hard drive, replacing the video card, replacing the old settings, but nothing works. I tried not to touch anything else in the computer, although some plires got a little ways down the heat sink, but I stopped them before they touched the processer. I was not grounded, but did not feel any static electricty. It seems weird that not even the BIOS will come up. Did I breaky my (Old) comptuer somehow, or is there a fix? |
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Trying to change jumper settings-Whole computer no longer works
"Ron Badour" wrote in message
... Not enough info. What happened to the small drive--is it no longer being used? This is important because some hard drives have two master settings--one for when it is the sole drive and another when it is being used with another hard drive. exactly.....namely, Western Digital drives. Buckdog, if it is a Western Digital drive, the "Single" jumper setting is used if the drive is the only hard drive on that channel (Primary or Secondary). The "Master" and "Slave" settings are only used if there are two hard drives on the same channel (and cable). -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm wrote in message ups.com... I had a computer where 98 was installed on a small hard drive, and was using the bigger hard drive for files. I had to reinstall 98, and decided to move everything to the bigger hard drive. I backed up my files, then opened up the computer, disconnected the power and data cable from the small hard drive, and changed the jumper settings on the big hard drive to what the sticker on the hard drive said was "Master." I plugged the computer in, it booted on it's own, but nothing, not even an error message came up on the screen. I tried not havingn a jumper in the hard drive, replacing the video card, replacing the old settings, but nothing works. I tried not to touch anything else in the computer, although some plires got a little ways down the heat sink, but I stopped them before they touched the processer. I was not grounded, but did not feel any static electricty. It seems weird that not even the BIOS will come up. Did I breaky my (Old) comptuer somehow, or is there a fix? |
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Trying to change jumper settings-Whole computer no longer works
Both hard drives are Quantum Fireballs. ONe is 13GB, and the other is
5GB. I have it hooked up like I thought it was before, and it still won't boot. How to you clear the memory? I am working on an old Gateway 450, and am using its original hard drive (The only one I want to use), and one from another old Gateway, also a Quantum Fireball, I believe.) Even if the jumper settings were not correct, couldn't I still see the bios boot on the screen? I did use a WD Chart for jumper settings, and it seemed to work. The chart on the hard drive is a bit confusing, but I could try to use that. I am not positive how I got it to work before. When I was messing around in there, I noticed that some of the juimpers that I had never used were bent. I do not think they were touching, but they might have been. I pried them apart before trying my last boot. |
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Trying to change jumper settings-Whole computer no longer works
Do the jumper blocks look like this?
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/rayp/HD/QUAN...s/fb_lct08.htm Another upside-down view of the same: http://support.ap.dell.com/support/e...tc/jumpers.htm -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm wrote in message oups.com... Both hard drives are Quantum Fireballs. ONe is 13GB, and the other is 5GB. I have it hooked up like I thought it was before, and it still won't boot. How to you clear the memory? I am working on an old Gateway 450, and am using its original hard drive (The only one I want to use), and one from another old Gateway, also a Quantum Fireball, I believe.) Even if the jumper settings were not correct, couldn't I still see the bios boot on the screen? I did use a WD Chart for jumper settings, and it seemed to work. The chart on the hard drive is a bit confusing, but I could try to use that. I am not positive how I got it to work before. When I was messing around in there, I noticed that some of the juimpers that I had never used were bent. I do not think they were touching, but they might have been. I pried them apart before trying my last boot. |
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Trying to change jumper settings-Whole computer no longer works
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oups.com... Both hard drives are Quantum Fireballs. ONe is 13GB, and the other is 5GB. I have it hooked up like I thought it was before, and it still won't boot. This suggests you do not have the drives connected and jumpered as formerly when the PC booted OK. How to you clear the memory? RAM requires power to function, i.e. is cleared every time you reboot. Even if the jumper settings were not correct, couldn't I still see the bios boot on the screen? Can you boot to a startup floppy? If you do not have one, download the (correct) one from www.bootdisk.com. This would give you DOS with CD drives enabled even if hard drive connections are still wrong, and allow access to the main board BIOS before that. I did use a WD Chart for jumper settings, and it seemed to work. The chart on the hard drive is a bit confusing, but I could try to use that. I am not positive how I got it to work before. When I was messing around in there, I noticed that some of the juimpers that I had never used were bent. I do not think they were touching, but they might have been. I pried them apart before trying my last boot. In your place I should use Quantum information to jumper Quantum drives, not WD. But you do not need extra information. You can draw a chart of all possible permutations (guided by what you read printed on the drives), then select the cases likeliest to work, then try each in turn, keeping a written record of results. Relying on memory alone, you may waste time repeating configurations you have already discovered do not work. -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
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