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Old August 17th 05, 11:50 AM
DRAGLYAR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian A.
Do you by any chance have Plug n Play disabled in the BIOS?

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I didn't find PlugnPlay feature in the BIOS. Here are some things that I found disabled and didn't know what they are used for:

SMART for Hard Disks

CHÍPSET FEATURES:
Top Performance
some USB stuff
AGP Fast Write

PnP/PCI CONFIGURATION:
PnP OS Installed
Reset Configuration Data

INTEGRATED PERIPHERALS:
Enhance ATAPI Performance
MPU-401

I thought you could know if any of these disabled options have to do something with the porblem.

Actually, when my brother installed Win98, it was working fine, and then he installed WinXP and he didn't try the '98 again. And so he blamed me that I have messed it up while installing drivers, but he wasn't there to see that even the mouse was not working when I first started it . So I suppose that the dual boot is the problem.
  #12  
Old August 17th 05, 06:12 PM
Gary S. Terhune
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PnP/PCI CONFIGURATION:
PnP OS Installed


If I understand you correctly, you're saying that "PnP OS Installed" is
disabled? If so, that's what Brian was talking about. You want to enable
that item.

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"DRAGLYAR" wrote in message
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I didn't find PlugnPlay feature in the BIOS. Here are some things that
I found disabled and didn't know what they are used for:

SMART for Hard Disks

CHÍPSET FEATURES:
Top Performance
some USB stuff
AGP Fast Write

PnP/PCI CONFIGURATION:
PnP OS Installed
Reset Configuration Data

INTEGRATED PERIPHERALS:
Enhance ATAPI Performance
MPU-401

I thought you could know if any of these disabled options have to do
something with the porblem.

Actually, when my brother installed Win98, it was working fine, and
then he installed WinXP and he didn't try the '98 again. And so he
blamed me that I have messed it up while installing drivers, but he
wasn't there to see that even the mouse was not working when I first
started it . So I suppose that the dual boot is the problem.


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  #13  
Old August 18th 05, 06:14 AM
Brian A.
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What Gary said. Enable "PnP OS installed".

Also let's get this straight.
The video card you are using ( or attempting) is either in a PCI or AGP slot.
Check in the BIOS to see if there is a setting for selection of video use as PCI
or AGP.
If the card is in a PCI slot then that is what the selected use should be,
otherwise if it is in the AGP slot, then it should be set to AGP.

AFAICT but not 100% sure, the MPU-401 may be onboard video. If it is as I
suspect then make sure it is disabled.

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"DRAGLYAR" wrote in message
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Brian A. Wrote:
Do you by any chance have Plug n Play disabled in the BIOS?

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http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375




I didn't find PlugnPlay feature in the BIOS. Here are some things that
I found disabled and didn't know what they are used for:

SMART for Hard Disks

CHÍPSET FEATURES:
Top Performance
some USB stuff
AGP Fast Write

PnP/PCI CONFIGURATION:
PnP OS Installed
Reset Configuration Data

INTEGRATED PERIPHERALS:
Enhance ATAPI Performance
MPU-401

I thought you could know if any of these disabled options have to do
something with the porblem.

Actually, when my brother installed Win98, it was working fine, and
then he installed WinXP and he didn't try the '98 again. And so he
blamed me that I have messed it up while installing drivers, but he
wasn't there to see that even the mouse was not working when I first
started it . So I suppose that the dual boot is the problem.


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DRAGLYAR


  #14  
Old August 18th 05, 06:16 AM
Brian A.
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Thanks Gary. Guess I should have specified that.

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http://basconotw.mvps.org/

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How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375




"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
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PnP/PCI CONFIGURATION:
PnP OS Installed


If I understand you correctly, you're saying that "PnP OS Installed" is
disabled? If so, that's what Brian was talking about. You want to enable that
item.

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MS-MVP Shell/User


  #15  
Old August 18th 05, 06:31 AM
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"Brian A." gonefish'n@afarawaylake wrote in message
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AFAICT but not 100% sure, the MPU-401 may be onboard video. If it is as
I suspect then make sure it is disabled.


MPU-401 is MIDI. I usually disable it, but it's seldom been an issue.

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  #16  
Old August 18th 05, 06:34 AM
Gary S. Terhune
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While that's a common format for that option, it isn't the only one. OP
provided excellent feedback.

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"Brian A." gonefish'n@afarawaylake wrote in message
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Thanks Gary. Guess I should have specified that.

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Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Shell/User }
Conflicts start where information lacks.
http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375




"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
PnP/PCI CONFIGURATION:
PnP OS Installed


If I understand you correctly, you're saying that "PnP OS Installed" is
disabled? If so, that's what Brian was talking about. You want to enable
that item.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User




  #17  
Old August 18th 05, 09:59 AM
DRAGLYAR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary S. Terhune
PnP/PCI CONFIGURATION:
PnP OS Installed


If I understand you correctly, you're saying that "PnP OS Installed" is
disabled? If so, that's what Brian was talking about. You want to enable
that item.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
Yes, I enabled it. But now everything goes the same: Win98 says that I don't have a RADEON 7000, and the setup of the RADEON drivers says I don't have it, too.
Here are the other settings in the same menu in BIOS:
VGA Boot from AGP
PCI VGA Palette Snoop Disabled
PCI Slot1 IRQ Priority Auto
PCI Slot2 IRQ Priority Auto
PCI Slot3 IRQ Priority Auto

Also one of the hardware in Win98 not yet installed well is some Advanced Configuration And Power Interface. It says it could not load the driver for it because the computer is reporting two ACPI.SYS bus types. It says I need to update my BIOS?!?(I have a very recent version of my BIOS). Cuold be this the main problem of all?
  #18  
Old August 18th 05, 02:44 PM
Gary S. Terhune
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Well, having two ACPI busses reported is definitely a problem. You might
have a problem due to the BIOS update you say is recent. You might also try
"Update ESCD" setting in the BIOS. It's usually in the PCI Setup section.
This will force BIOS to re-enumerate hardware. You enable it, save and
restart.

Aside from that, at this point I'd be looking in Device Manager in Safe Mode
(must be in Safe Mode) to see what your hardware profile looks like. Don't
remove anything just yet. Just review it and note down any devices that are
reported but which you know are no longer present, and report any devices
for which there is more than one entry. We want to know how many of what
items are duplicated.

It's important not to remove the video adapter in Safe Mode. Just review and
report for now. Only other thing I can suggest at this point is to boot to
Normal Mode, then change the video adapter to "Standard VGA", restart, and
then try reinstalling the proper drivers.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"DRAGLYAR" wrote in message
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Yes, I enabled it. But now everything goes the same: Win98 says that I
don't have a RADEON 7000, and the setup of the RADEON drivers says I
don't have it, too.
Here are the other settings in the same menu in BIOS:
VGA Boot from AGP
PCI VGA Palette Snoop Disabled
PCI Slot1 IRQ Priority Auto
PCI Slot2 IRQ Priority Auto
PCI Slot3 IRQ Priority Auto

Also one of the hardware in Win98 not yet installed well is some
Advanced Configuration And Power Interface. It says it could not load
the driver for it because the computer is reporting two ACPI.SYS bus
types. It says I need to update my BIOS?!?(I have a very recent version
of my BIOS). Cuold be this the main problem of all?


--
DRAGLYAR



  #19  
Old August 21st 05, 06:33 PM
DRAGLYAR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary S. Terhune
Well, having two ACPI busses reported is definitely a problem. You might
have a problem due to the BIOS update you say is recent. You might also try
"Update ESCD" setting in the BIOS. It's usually in the PCI Setup section.
This will force BIOS to re-enumerate hardware. You enable it, save and
restart.

Aside from that, at this point I'd be looking in Device Manager in Safe Mode
(must be in Safe Mode) to see what your hardware profile looks like. Don't
remove anything just yet. Just review it and note down any devices that are
reported but which you know are no longer present, and report any devices
for which there is more than one entry. We want to know how many of what
items are duplicated.

It's important not to remove the video adapter in Safe Mode. Just review and
report for now. Only other thing I can suggest at this point is to boot to
Normal Mode, then change the video adapter to "Standard VGA", restart, and
then try reinstalling the proper drivers.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
When I updated the BIOS, it was done by a program and BIOS downloaded from the manufacturer's website. And it was done long after this problem was present.
There is Reset Configuration in the PCI settings. I started it, but the setup program of the RADEON driver doesn't find the videocard again.
Here is a list of all hardware in the device manager that doesn't look usual to me:

_NEC DVD_RW - a DVD recorder that was removed long ago
CD-RW CDR-2440MB - my current CD recorder
DVD - my current DVD ROM
LITE-ON LTR-24102B - my current CD recorder (again!), but with another brand - the model is the same, these are some varying brands
TEAC CD-540Ex2 - my current CD ROM

Disk Drives:
2xGENERIC IDE DISK TYPE47 - two times!
2xGENERIC NEC FLOPPY DISK - two times!

Display adapter:
RADEON 7000 SERIES - the display driver that I installed manually

2xStandard IDE/ESDI Hard Disk Controller - two times!

Some Parallel and serial cables - I don't have any?

2xCTX VL700 - My monitor - two times!

Standard PS2 Mouse Driver () - I think that this is not working, I'm using some other drivers

Network adapters:

Dial-up Adapter - I uninstalled the dial-up modem long ago
Existing Ndis2 Driver - an attempt of mine to setup my LAN Card

Gameport Joystick - I don't have one

System Devices: -some of them are reported with problems in Normal mode
ACPI
Direct memory Access controller
Numeric Data processor
Plug And Play Software Device Enumerator
Processor Support
Programmable interrupt Controller
System board
System CMOS/real time clock
System Speaker
System Timer
  #20  
Old August 21st 05, 11:12 PM
Gary S. Terhune
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Key clue: You have Yellow Exclamation Marks ("Bangs") on System devices in
Normal Mode. This tells me that you need to reinstall the motherboard
drivers. Since the rest of the hardware tree is built upon the motherboard,
you'll also need to reinstall the rest of the drivers. This also may be why
the video card isn't recognized, since the hardware it's connected too isn't
operating properly.

A complete reinstall of the hardware tree is usually accomplished by
deleting the ENUM key in HKLM in the Registry. If you don't understand what
I just said, it's time for you to find a more experienced person to assist
you. This procedure may go well, with few if any hitches, or it may bog you
down in loops that are difficult to get out of, situations that may require
more expertise than you have. Unfortunately, reinstalling the *entire*
hardware tree can be just a bit tricky. In fact, it's precisely with the
video card that problems usually arise, since Win98 is somewhat adamant
about having the proper video drivers installed before it will install
anything else, even though some of those "else" items need to be installed
first. One way around this possibility is to Cancel any attempt to install
the video drivers until you can get into Windows and run the appropriate
setup programs for the motherboard and then the video (and later the rest).
The other way around this Catch-22 is to use Device Manager in Safe Mode to
remove *everything* except video (and the two FIFO's that can't normally be
removed), then restart and let things reinstall. This may or may not get you
around the video nag

Not sure how you ended up this way, but the key to success in this kind of
situation is research,, research. Make *certain* you have all of the proper
drivers installation apps ready to go when needed. Many drivers installation
files are simply a set of a few files packaged in ZIP files or
self-executing ZIP files (EXE's that unpack a set of files to a temporary
folder.) Make sure those files are all unpacked into readily accessible
folders that you can point to during device installations. Others drivers
installation apps (typically video and sound, printers, scanners, etc.) will
need to be installed later after you manage to attain a normal Desktop.

One tool that can help you identify hardware (there are others) is Everest
Home Edition from http://www.lavalys.com/ Note that I'm not certain, but it
seems to me that Everest sometimes reports whatever Windows tells it to
report, and may not properly identify components. It may be necessary to
physically look at components for model numbers, etc., refer to the
manufacturers' websites. Is yours a major brand computer?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User


"DRAGLYAR" wrote in message
news

Gary S. Terhune Wrote:
Well, having two ACPI busses reported is definitely a problem. You
might
have a problem due to the BIOS update you say is recent. You might also
try
"Update ESCD" setting in the BIOS. It's usually in the PCI Setup
section.
This will force BIOS to re-enumerate hardware. You enable it, save and
restart.

Aside from that, at this point I'd be looking in Device Manager in Safe
Mode
(must be in Safe Mode) to see what your hardware profile looks like.
Don't
remove anything just yet. Just review it and note down any devices that
are
reported but which you know are no longer present, and report any
devices
for which there is more than one entry. We want to know how many of
what
items are duplicated.

It's important not to remove the video adapter in Safe Mode. Just
review and
report for now. Only other thing I can suggest at this point is to boot
to
Normal Mode, then change the video adapter to "Standard VGA", restart,
and
then try reinstalling the proper drivers.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User



When I updated the BIOS, it was done by a program and BIOS downloaded
from the manufacturer's website. And it was done long after this
problem was present.
There is Reset Configuration in the PCI settings. I started it, but the
setup program of the RADEON driver doesn't find the videocard again.
Here is a list of all hardware in the device manager that doesn't look
usual to me:

_NEC DVD_RW - a DVD recorder that was removed
long ago
CD-RW CDR-2440MB - my current CD recorder
DVD - my current DVD ROM
LITE-ON LTR-24102B - my current CD recorder (again!), but
with another brand - the model is the same, these are some varying
brands
TEAC CD-540Ex2 - my current CD ROM

Disk Drives:
2xGENERIC IDE DISK TYPE47 - two times!
2xGENERIC NEC FLOPPY DISK - two times!

Display adapter:
RADEON 7000 SERIES - the display driver that I installed
manually

2xStandard IDE/ESDI Hard Disk Controller - two times!

Some Parallel and serial cables - I don't have any?

2xCTX VL700 - My monitor - two times!

Standard PS2 Mouse Driver () - I think that
this is not working, I'm using some other drivers

Network adapters:

Dial-up Adapter - I uninstalled the dial-up
modem long ago
Existing Ndis2 Driver - an attempt of mine to setup
my LAN Card

Gameport Joystick - I don't have one

System Devices: -some of them are reported with
problems in Normal mode
ACPI
Direct memory Access controller
Numeric Data processor
Plug And Play Software Device Enumerator
Processor Support
Programmable interrupt Controller
System board
System CMOS/real time clock
System Speaker
System Timer


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DRAGLYAR



 




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