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Old August 18th 04, 10:27 AM
Wiggy
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I have a 200GB HD with C: partition (20GB) and D: partition (147GB).
While copying files to the D: partition, I passed over the 137GB
threshold (more info on that issue here -
http://computing.net/windowsme/wwwbo...rum/43339.html). Windows kept
copying files to the beginning of the partition and overwrote my
extended boot record and it's extended partition table. After a
restart, my D: drive was gone since there was nothing in the partition
table to define it correctly. (More info on extended partition tables
at the bottom of the page here - http://tinyurl.com/4g3t4)

I used Powerquest's Partition Table Editor to view the extended
partition table, and put table entries 2 - 4 to all zeros, since I only
need the first one to define my one logical drive.

My primary partition goes to sector 40,997,817. My extended partition
starts at 41,013,945 (there's ~7MB of free space between the two) and
goes to 349,702,920. I'm not sure what to set the logical drive
parameters at. I currently have them set as-

Type- 0C (FAT32X)
Boot- 00
BCyl- 1023, Head- 0, Sector- 1
ECyl- 1023, Head- 254, Sector- 63
Sectors Before- 63
Sectors- 349,702,920

Doing this allows D: to show up, but clicking on it comes up with the
error "D: is not accessible- A device attached to the system is not
functioning", and the D: properties show it as having zero capacity.

I also have some Powerquest PartitionInfo info and error messages if
that would help.

Any help or direction is greatly appreciated.


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Old August 18th 04, 03:10 PM
Rick Chauvin
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A well articulated post wiggy,

Although not said, but I assume you are asking how to get your partition back?
I'm sure there are a few programs around that can recover it again for you.
For extra advice along with those who answer here, I also know for sure there
are a few programmers that can give you the advice you need who have recently
been hanging out at one of the grc spinrite development groups, especially one
guy named Joep but there are certainly a few others. (actually Joep used to be
one of the programmers that worked on PartionMagic and their other programs at
powerquest back then before Norton bought it ...also Joep is the
developer now of his own recovery software http://www.diydatarecovery.nl/ )
...Anyway, even though that group is centered around spinrite and is best to
keep that in mind - but i bet if you post this post over there innocently
asking if spinrite can fix it (even though it can't at this point) ..but i just
bet you will get a response about how to do it otherwise.
You can go here to it's webbased forum http://grc.com/discussions.htm and click
the spinrite group, or so much much better would be if you have OE or an email
client that accepts this link to bring it up in your client and open it right
now. (..if you do, just don't forget to click subscribe to keep the group set
in your client after you close it). news://news.grc.com/grc.spinrite

All the best for you to succeed..

Rick


Wiggy wrote:
I have a 200GB HD with C: partition (20GB) and D: partition (147GB).
While copying files to the D: partition, I passed over the 137GB
threshold (more info on that issue here -
http://computing.net/windowsme/wwwbo...rum/43339.html). Windows
kept copying files to the beginning of the partition and overwrote my
extended boot record and it's extended partition table. After a
restart, my D: drive was gone since there was nothing in the partition
table to define it correctly. (More info on extended partition tables
at the bottom of the page here - http://tinyurl.com/4g3t4)

I used Powerquest's Partition Table Editor to view the extended
partition table, and put table entries 2 - 4 to all zeros, since I
only need the first one to define my one logical drive.

My primary partition goes to sector 40,997,817. My extended partition
starts at 41,013,945 (there's ~7MB of free space between the two) and
goes to 349,702,920. I'm not sure what to set the logical drive
parameters at. I currently have them set as-

Type- 0C (FAT32X)
Boot- 00
BCyl- 1023, Head- 0, Sector- 1
ECyl- 1023, Head- 254, Sector- 63
Sectors Before- 63
Sectors- 349,702,920

Doing this allows D: to show up, but clicking on it comes up with the
error "D: is not accessible- A device attached to the system is not
functioning", and the D: properties show it as having zero capacity.

I also have some Powerquest PartitionInfo info and error messages if
that would help.

Any help or direction is greatly appreciated.


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Old August 18th 04, 03:13 PM
Rick Chauvin
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Although not said, but I assume you are asking how to get your

....i see now of course the request was in your subject line...



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Old August 20th 04, 04:36 AM
Bill Blanton
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"Wiggy" wrote in message ...

I have a 200GB HD with C: partition (20GB) and D: partition (147GB).
While copying files to the D: partition, I passed over the 137GB
threshold (more info on that issue here -
http://computing.net/windowsme/wwwbo...rum/43339.html). Windows kept
copying files to the beginning of the partition and overwrote my
extended boot record and it's extended partition table. After a
restart, my D: drive was gone since there was nothing in the partition
table to define it correctly


I used Powerquest's Partition Table Editor to view the extended
partition table, and put table entries 2 - 4 to all zeros, since I only
need the first one to define my one logical drive.


Setting 2-4 to zeros is correct, but only because there is only one logical.
The first entry defines "this" logical partition, the second entry points to the
next in the chain. Only if it's the last in the chain will entry 2 be a
"null pointer" or all 0s. 3 & 4 don't matter in an EPBR. But again, you
are correct here..


My primary partition goes to sector 40,997,817. My extended partition
starts at 41,013,945 (there's ~7MB of free space between the two) and
goes to 349,702,920. I'm not sure what to set the logical drive
parameters at. I currently have them set as-

Type- 0C (FAT32X)
Boot- 00
BCyl- 1023, Head- 0, Sector- 1


Starting CHS should probably be 1023,1,1, since there is usually 1 head
difference between the table and the partition. However, the CHS values
are merely placeholders for a partition that exceeds the CHS boundary,
so this shouldn't matter in trying to access the drive from an OS that
uses LBA.

ECyl- 1023, Head- 254, Sector- 63
Sectors Before- 63
Sectors- 349,702,920


"Sectors-" means "Total sectors". You said above that the extended "goes
to 349,702,920". If you mean that this is the total of the extended, then the
logical's total sector count in the EPBR will be that number, minus the 63
sectors from the table to the start of the logical. Or 349,702,857

(all this assuming a typical setup, and that the extended entry is correct
in the MBR)

Doing this allows D: to show up, but clicking on it comes up with the
error "D: is not accessible- A device attached to the system is not
functioning", and the D: properties show it as having zero capacity.


You probably overwrote the boot sector which is usually only 63
sectors (32k) away from the EPBR. The FAT for FAT32 is typically
only 32 sectors into that, so no telling how much more file system
damage occured. OTOH, if the FAT is okay, then rewriting the boot
sector may be all that is needed.

I also have some Powerquest PartitionInfo info and error messages if
that would help.


Partinfo only interprets what the tables say.




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Old August 28th 04, 04:30 PM
Rick Chauvin
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Hi Bill,

Nice reply you gave him.
You know, so many of these newsgroup question posters don't have the courtesy
to ever come back and reply.. ..which can be disheartening for some who spend
volunteer time to help others. I know... my grandmother told me it's to give
without expecting anything in return... ...but i think a simple thanks or
acknowledgement is always appropriate..!

Rick


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Old August 29th 04, 03:59 AM
Bill Blanton
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"Rick Chauvin" wrote in message ...
Hi Bill,


Hey Rick!

Nice reply you gave him.




You know, so many of these newsgroup question posters don't have the courtesy
to ever come back and reply.. ..which can be disheartening for some who spend
volunteer time to help others.


I think many just can't find their way back. For whatever reason. Not
being able to find the "group", the thread, not downloading enough headers.
The web-based MS-CDO interface is a major contributor to "nolo-responsum" .

There probably are some that just don't bother, but I'd guess the majority do
want to respond, and just can't. .. But then it can be disheartening sometimes,
as you said..

I know... my grandmother told me it's to give
without expecting anything in return... ...but i think a simple thanks or
acknowledgement is always appropriate..!


Your grandma is a wise woman.. What you give is what you get..and all
those ancient undeniable truths



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Old August 29th 04, 03:29 PM
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Old August 29th 04, 06:34 PM
PCR
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You mean :-), or are you standing on your head?

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Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

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