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Brande, I concur with Noel, although I would not look for a 356 MB memory
module, at least in the USA. Here you will find modules in sizes 128, 256, 512 MB, and 1 GB. I further recommend the following article for virtual memory, aka, the page file, for your XP Home machine: Virtual Memory in Windows XP Version 1.5 — Last Updated January 20, 2005 by Alex Nichol (MS-MVP - Windows Storage Management/File Systems) © 2002-2005 by Author, All Rights Reserved http://www.aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.htm Mr. Nichol is the grand old master of Windows in our group, our Obi Wan, and this article may well be the best available for this subject to any consumer group. I strongly urge you to let Windows manage the virtual memory, in WinME and XP, to avoid inadvertently running out of necessary memory and crashing the OS. -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "Brande" wrote in message ... Rather complicated, but I get the jist. Thankls everyone for all your help, I will let you get on with everyone elses problems now. I have let him play it on this machine, so he is happy at the moment. All the best "Noel Paton" wrote: Brande The 'Physical memory' is TOTALLY limited by the RAM sticks installed on the PC - the only way to expand that is to purchase extra RAM sticks. Adjustments can be made to the Virtual Memory - but they wouldn't do you any good in this instance. There are 1024 MB in a GB - and you would need to (probably) purchase a new stick of RAM of 356MB alone, or two of 128MB to get the game to work (ME doesn't appreciate having mixed-size RAM sticks installed, much) The default Virtual Memory setting for Win9x system is 2GB The default for Win NT systems (of which Win XP is one) is a maximum of 2.5 times the Physical RAM - which explains your setting (you have 384MB RAM installed? - take away the 32MB your Video card may be using, and multiply by 2.5, and you get around that number). No-one has yet explained to me (to my satisfaction) why XP is limited in this way - it goes against all rational logic - so you'll have to look elsewhere for an explanation for that. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Brande" wrote in message ... I have actually got him to bring the game in and guess what after all this the game won't play, although it is a win me. his processor is 650 and it needs 733 to run. Also it needs at least 256 MB and there is only 64mb on there. The latter is bugging me as it says... total physical memory is 63.44 Available physical memory 108 KB Total virtual memory 2GB Available virtual memory 1.89GB Page file space 1.94 GB, isn't there a way of moving all this memory so that you can have it in the physical memory. Also hould these values be this high for the age of the computer. How many MB in a GB, I can never remember if it is 100 or 1000 My own computer is Winxp home but my total virtual memory is only 873mb, I would have though it would have been smaller than this, considering it is an older computer than mine. Anyway any suggestions for swapping this memory over. Brande "Jack E Martinelli" wrote: Perhaps Noel Paton or Mike Maltby, who live in the UK, nearer to you than I do, can offer an alternative. -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "Brande" wrote in message ... Sorry, it is works suite 2000. I only want the first disk, I have all the other 7. I am UK based. "Jack E Martinelli" wrote: You failed to tell us the version of the MS Works, but if it is older, it can be purchased very inexpensively from any of many internet vendors. Begin a search with the Amazon.com affiliated partners. Or, eg., www.eastoutlet.com Microsoft Works Suite 2001 OEM (msbp-152) Mfg Part No: B11-00310(OEM) Microsoft Works Suite 2001 gives you the tools you need to easily accomplish all your homework and home office tasks. 8 Full Programs on 6 CDs. List Price: $89.99 Our Price: $34.99 You Save: $55.00 (61%) -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "Brande" wrote in message ... I am so glad that I decided to have a go at this. I have done it, the winme is up and running. I altered the booting sequence to second boot cdrom and third boot HDD. Put the restore cd in and away it went. It is now back to normal, even the memory is back up to 18GB. Thank you all very much fir your time and efforts. I have learned more now about the computer. I have a computer in the attic that is win 95, that I gave up on years ago, I feel now that I could try again with it, then at least I could sell it. I have hit another problem now, I can't find the first disk for his worksuite for microsoft, I have all the other 7 but the first one is missing. I have turned his bedroom upside down and can't find it. It legally belongs to him, so is there any way of getting it. I haven't got it on this computer or I could lend him mine. Brande "Jack E Martinelli" wrote: Very nicely done, Rick & Noel. You're in good hands, Brande. Read carefully, be patient, and follow the instructions exactly. P.S. You are as old as you think ... -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... Brande As Rick said, you need to *run* the file you downloaded on a windows PC to create the boot disk (use the OEM Win ME boot disk program - instructions below). You should also change the second and third boot devices - preferably to the CD and HD, so that your boot order is Floppy, CD, HD. Then if all else fails, your system should be ready to accept the Recovery disk. Insert a formatted floppy disk, run the program, and when it's finished, shut down the PC, then restart it with the floppy in the drive. Once that's done, and working, you can remove the disk, and boot back to Windows and let us knowg (use CTRL+ALT+DEL, or the reset button to reboot) Then go here, and see if you can follow the directions to use System Restore to repair the system - it's worth a shot, and will save a lot of effort if it works. http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=279736 The instructions look a lot more complex than they are - just them out and take them one step at a time. Good Luck -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Brande" wrote in message ... Yippee, I have the floppy back. I went into the bios like you said, but it was enabled. The only thing that was disabled w2as the swap floppy drive, so I left that as it was. Second boot was HDD. What should be third boot, cos they have...LS/Zip, should this be the cd, I didn't alter it, in case it was important?? Before coming out i went into the cmos section and the drive A said none, so I altered that to 1.44 3.25 floppy. Now the drive is up and working. I put the downloaded disks in and it wouldn't accept any of them. There were 3 different ones in the download page, so I saved all of them, to make sure I had the right one, but it keeps saying remove disks or other media and press any key to continue. I have restored this computer before, I am sure I didn't have a floppy then, I am sure I just put the restore CD in without a floppy. But then again, I am getting old. "Jack E Martinelli" wrote: Brande, while waiting for Noel to return, boot to the BIOS setup program and confirm that the floppy drive controller is enabled, and that the boot process is configured to boot first from the floppy (before the HD or the CD). Then reboot with your new EBD in the floppy drive to retest your boot disk startup. And I didn't read any rubbish at all in his 1/20/05 response .... -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. |
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(oops - cross-fingered, as well as cross-eyed! - Thanks for spotting the
goof, Jack!!) -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Jack E Martinelli" wrote in message ... Brande, I concur with Noel, although I would not look for a 356 MB memory module, at least in the USA. Here you will find modules in sizes 128, 256, 512 MB, and 1 GB. I further recommend the following article for virtual memory, aka, the page file, for your XP Home machine: Virtual Memory in Windows XP Version 1.5 — Last Updated January 20, 2005 by Alex Nichol (MS-MVP - Windows Storage Management/File Systems) © 2002-2005 by Author, All Rights Reserved http://www.aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.htm Mr. Nichol is the grand old master of Windows in our group, our Obi Wan, and this article may well be the best available for this subject to any consumer group. I strongly urge you to let Windows manage the virtual memory, in WinME and XP, to avoid inadvertently running out of necessary memory and crashing the OS. -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "Brande" wrote in message ... Rather complicated, but I get the jist. Thankls everyone for all your help, I will let you get on with everyone elses problems now. I have let him play it on this machine, so he is happy at the moment. All the best "Noel Paton" wrote: Brande The 'Physical memory' is TOTALLY limited by the RAM sticks installed on the PC - the only way to expand that is to purchase extra RAM sticks. Adjustments can be made to the Virtual Memory - but they wouldn't do you any good in this instance. There are 1024 MB in a GB - and you would need to (probably) purchase a new stick of RAM of 356MB alone, or two of 128MB to get the game to work (ME doesn't appreciate having mixed-size RAM sticks installed, much) The default Virtual Memory setting for Win9x system is 2GB The default for Win NT systems (of which Win XP is one) is a maximum of 2.5 times the Physical RAM - which explains your setting (you have 384MB RAM installed? - take away the 32MB your Video card may be using, and multiply by 2.5, and you get around that number). No-one has yet explained to me (to my satisfaction) why XP is limited in this way - it goes against all rational logic - so you'll have to look elsewhere for an explanation for that. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Brande" wrote in message ... I have actually got him to bring the game in and guess what after all this the game won't play, although it is a win me. his processor is 650 and it needs 733 to run. Also it needs at least 256 MB and there is only 64mb on there. The latter is bugging me as it says... total physical memory is 63.44 Available physical memory 108 KB Total virtual memory 2GB Available virtual memory 1.89GB Page file space 1.94 GB, isn't there a way of moving all this memory so that you can have it in the physical memory. Also hould these values be this high for the age of the computer. How many MB in a GB, I can never remember if it is 100 or 1000 My own computer is Winxp home but my total virtual memory is only 873mb, I would have though it would have been smaller than this, considering it is an older computer than mine. Anyway any suggestions for swapping this memory over. Brande "Jack E Martinelli" wrote: Perhaps Noel Paton or Mike Maltby, who live in the UK, nearer to you than I do, can offer an alternative. -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "Brande" wrote in message ... Sorry, it is works suite 2000. I only want the first disk, I have all the other 7. I am UK based. "Jack E Martinelli" wrote: You failed to tell us the version of the MS Works, but if it is older, it can be purchased very inexpensively from any of many internet vendors. Begin a search with the Amazon.com affiliated partners. Or, eg., www.eastoutlet.com Microsoft Works Suite 2001 OEM (msbp-152) Mfg Part No: B11-00310(OEM) Microsoft Works Suite 2001 gives you the tools you need to easily accomplish all your homework and home office tasks. 8 Full Programs on 6 CDs. List Price: $89.99 Our Price: $34.99 You Save: $55.00 (61%) -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "Brande" wrote in message ... I am so glad that I decided to have a go at this. I have done it, the winme is up and running. I altered the booting sequence to second boot cdrom and third boot HDD. Put the restore cd in and away it went. It is now back to normal, even the memory is back up to 18GB. Thank you all very much fir your time and efforts. I have learned more now about the computer. I have a computer in the attic that is win 95, that I gave up on years ago, I feel now that I could try again with it, then at least I could sell it. I have hit another problem now, I can't find the first disk for his worksuite for microsoft, I have all the other 7 but the first one is missing. I have turned his bedroom upside down and can't find it. It legally belongs to him, so is there any way of getting it. I haven't got it on this computer or I could lend him mine. Brande "Jack E Martinelli" wrote: Very nicely done, Rick & Noel. You're in good hands, Brande. Read carefully, be patient, and follow the instructions exactly. P.S. You are as old as you think ... -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... Brande As Rick said, you need to *run* the file you downloaded on a windows PC to create the boot disk (use the OEM Win ME boot disk program - instructions below). You should also change the second and third boot devices - preferably to the CD and HD, so that your boot order is Floppy, CD, HD. Then if all else fails, your system should be ready to accept the Recovery disk. Insert a formatted floppy disk, run the program, and when it's finished, shut down the PC, then restart it with the floppy in the drive. Once that's done, and working, you can remove the disk, and boot back to Windows and let us knowg (use CTRL+ALT+DEL, or the reset button to reboot) Then go here, and see if you can follow the directions to use System Restore to repair the system - it's worth a shot, and will save a lot of effort if it works. http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=279736 The instructions look a lot more complex than they are - just them out and take them one step at a time. Good Luck -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Brande" wrote in message ... Yippee, I have the floppy back. I went into the bios like you said, but it was enabled. The only thing that was disabled w2as the swap floppy drive, so I left that as it was. Second boot was HDD. What should be third boot, cos they have...LS/Zip, should this be the cd, I didn't alter it, in case it was important?? Before coming out i went into the cmos section and the drive A said none, so I altered that to 1.44 3.25 floppy. Now the drive is up and working. I put the downloaded disks in and it wouldn't accept any of them. There were 3 different ones in the download page, so I saved all of them, to make sure I had the right one, but it keeps saying remove disks or other media and press any key to continue. I have restored this computer before, I am sure I didn't have a floppy then, I am sure I just put the restore CD in without a floppy. But then again, I am getting old. "Jack E Martinelli" wrote: Brande, while waiting for Noel to return, boot to the BIOS setup program and confirm that the floppy drive controller is enabled, and that the boot process is configured to boot first from the floppy (before the HD or the CD). Then reboot with your new EBD in the floppy drive to retest your boot disk startup. And I didn't read any rubbish at all in his 1/20/05 response .... -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. |
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Hey, I thought it was a UK-only standard! Maybe Wales-only, or something
you and Joanie cooked up. -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... (oops - cross-fingered, as well as cross-eyed! - Thanks for spotting the goof, Jack!!) -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Jack E Martinelli" wrote in message ... Brande, I concur with Noel, although I would not look for a 356 MB memory module, at least in the USA. Here you will find modules in sizes 128, 256, 512 MB, and 1 GB. I further recommend the following article for virtual memory, aka, the page file, for your XP Home machine: Virtual Memory in Windows XP Version 1.5 — Last Updated January 20, 2005 by Alex Nichol (MS-MVP - Windows Storage Management/File Systems) © 2002-2005 by Author, All Rights Reserved http://www.aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.htm Mr. Nichol is the grand old master of Windows in our group, our Obi Wan, and this article may well be the best available for this subject to any consumer group. I strongly urge you to let Windows manage the virtual memory, in WinME and XP, to avoid inadvertently running out of necessary memory and crashing the OS. -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "Brande" wrote in message ... SNIP |
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Sheep have nothing to do with this, Jack!
-- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Jack E Martinelli" wrote in message ... Hey, I thought it was a UK-only standard! Maybe Wales-only, or something you and Joanie cooked up. -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... (oops - cross-fingered, as well as cross-eyed! - Thanks for spotting the goof, Jack!!) -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Jack E Martinelli" wrote in message ... Brande, I concur with Noel, although I would not look for a 356 MB memory module, at least in the USA. Here you will find modules in sizes 128, 256, 512 MB, and 1 GB. I further recommend the following article for virtual memory, aka, the page file, for your XP Home machine: Virtual Memory in Windows XP Version 1.5 — Last Updated January 20, 2005 by Alex Nichol (MS-MVP - Windows Storage Management/File Systems) © 2002-2005 by Author, All Rights Reserved http://www.aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.htm Mr. Nichol is the grand old master of Windows in our group, our Obi Wan, and this article may well be the best available for this subject to any consumer group. I strongly urge you to let Windows manage the virtual memory, in WinME and XP, to avoid inadvertently running out of necessary memory and crashing the OS. -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "Brande" wrote in message ... SNIP |
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