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hard drive problems
I have run into a series of hard drive problems that I have tried to
fix. I could not run scandisk through start up of my system. I came to the conclusion that my best tactic was to buy a new hard drive and install a clean install of windows me. I connect the old drive that I am having troubles as a slave and booted on the new drive. I ran scan disk and this seemed to clean up the problems. I booted on the old hard drive. I then tried to upgrade my copy of Norton anti virus in order make sure my problems were not caused by a virus. This did not work . I could not install the upgrade. I decided that I better boot the new hard drive with the old drive as a slave again. I installed the new version of Norton anit virus and ran a scan of both my drives. I lot of spy ware came up and I deleted all that i could. I then reboot trying to use the old drive and could not. I get a windows protection fault. I can not boot in safe mode either. I would guess that I have problems with the registry. How can I fix this? I can still boot using the new drive with the old drive as a slave. How can I run a diagnoistic and repair on the registry of a slave drive? If this can't be done perhaps I should look at building up a new registry on the new drive.. I do not want to reinstall all my software as this is very inpractical. What is the procedure in copying programs over one at a time so that all components and keys are installed? I can not boot using a floppy as I don't have a floppy drive. Is there any repair feature on the WindowsME install disk? Thanks for any help! Mark |
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It's so tempting to turn around and say 'Ditch Norton completely and then we
can start rescuing your Windows installation' - that I think I'll leave it there..... -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Mark Garron" wrote in message ... I have run into a series of hard drive problems that I have tried to fix. I could not run scandisk through start up of my system. I came to the conclusion that my best tactic was to buy a new hard drive and install a clean install of windows me. I connect the old drive that I am having troubles as a slave and booted on the new drive. I ran scan disk and this seemed to clean up the problems. I booted on the old hard drive. I then tried to upgrade my copy of Norton anti virus in order make sure my problems were not caused by a virus. This did not work . I could not install the upgrade. I decided that I better boot the new hard drive with the old drive as a slave again. I installed the new version of Norton anit virus and ran a scan of both my drives. I lot of spy ware came up and I deleted all that i could. I then reboot trying to use the old drive and could not. I get a windows protection fault. I can not boot in safe mode either. I would guess that I have problems with the registry. How can I fix this? I can still boot using the new drive with the old drive as a slave. How can I run a diagnoistic and repair on the registry of a slave drive? If this can't be done perhaps I should look at building up a new registry on the new drive.. I do not want to reinstall all my software as this is very inpractical. What is the procedure in copying programs over one at a time so that all components and keys are installed? I can not boot using a floppy as I don't have a floppy drive. Is there any repair feature on the WindowsME install disk? Thanks for any help! Mark |
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Thats all well and good to say but...
Norton is completely uninstalled on the old drive. I have two options copy everything to the new drive. The question becomes how do I copy all keys etc so that I don't have to reinstall everything. or How do I recover and fix my registry on the old drive. Mark Noel Paton wrote: It's so tempting to turn around and say 'Ditch Norton completely and then we can start rescuing your Windows installation' - that I think I'll leave it there..... -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Mark Garron" wrote in message ... I have run into a series of hard drive problems that I have tried to fix. I could not run scandisk through start up of my system. I came to the conclusion that my best tactic was to buy a new hard drive and install a clean install of windows me. I connect the old drive that I am having troubles as a slave and booted on the new drive. I ran scan disk and this seemed to clean up the problems. I booted on the old hard drive. I then tried to upgrade my copy of Norton anti virus in order make sure my problems were not caused by a virus. This did not work . I could not install the upgrade. I decided that I better boot the new hard drive with the old drive as a slave again. I installed the new version of Norton anit virus and ran a scan of both my drives. I lot of spy ware came up and I deleted all that i could. I then reboot trying to use the old drive and could not. I get a windows protection fault. I can not boot in safe mode either. I would guess that I have problems with the registry. How can I fix this? I can still boot using the new drive with the old drive as a slave. How can I run a diagnoistic and repair on the registry of a slave drive? If this can't be done perhaps I should look at building up a new registry on the new drive.. I do not want to reinstall all my software as this is very inpractical. What is the procedure in copying programs over one at a time so that all components and keys are installed? I can not boot using a floppy as I don't have a floppy drive. Is there any repair feature on the WindowsME install disk? Thanks for any help! Mark |
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IIUYC, it appears that your NAV scanning of the drives removed an infected,
but critical, WinME OS file resulting in the Windows Protection Error. IMO, your only simple solution is to attempt a Safe Mode, or DOS mode, System Restore reversion to a time prior to this infection. If this fails, a backup restoration or a clean install are the feasible options. -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm In Memorium: Alex Nichol http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "Mark Garron" wrote in message ... Thats all well and good to say but... Norton is completely uninstalled on the old drive. I have two options copy everything to the new drive. The question becomes how do I copy all keys etc so that I don't have to reinstall everything. or How do I recover and fix my registry on the old drive. Mark Noel Paton wrote: It's so tempting to turn around and say 'Ditch Norton completely and then we can start rescuing your Windows installation' - that I think I'll leave it there..... -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Mark Garron" wrote in message ... I have run into a series of hard drive problems that I have tried to fix. I could not run scandisk through start up of my system. I came to the conclusion that my best tactic was to buy a new hard drive and install a clean install of windows me. I connect the old drive that I am having troubles as a slave and booted on the new drive. I ran scan disk and this seemed to clean up the problems. I booted on the old hard drive. I then tried to upgrade my copy of Norton anti virus in order make sure my problems were not caused by a virus. This did not work . I could not install the upgrade. I decided that I better boot the new hard drive with the old drive as a slave again. I installed the new version of Norton anit virus and ran a scan of both my drives. I lot of spy ware came up and I deleted all that i could. I then reboot trying to use the old drive and could not. I get a windows protection fault. I can not boot in safe mode either. I would guess that I have problems with the registry. How can I fix this? I can still boot using the new drive with the old drive as a slave. How can I run a diagnoistic and repair on the registry of a slave drive? If this can't be done perhaps I should look at building up a new registry on the new drive.. I do not want to reinstall all my software as this is very inpractical. What is the procedure in copying programs over one at a time so that all components and keys are installed? I can not boot using a floppy as I don't have a floppy drive. Is there any repair feature on the WindowsME install disk? Thanks for any help! Mark |
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safe mode system restore is not possible. Perhaps a DOS mode restore is.
However I would be booting from the system instal disk. So how do I do a backup restore? Where are these files kept. How do I do this? Mark Jack E Martinelli wrote: IIUYC, it appears that your NAV scanning of the drives removed an infected, but critical, WinME OS file resulting in the Windows Protection Error. IMO, your only simple solution is to attempt a Safe Mode, or DOS mode, System Restore reversion to a time prior to this infection. If this fails, a backup restoration or a clean install are the feasible options. -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm In Memorium: Alex Nichol http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "Mark Garron" wrote in message ... Thats all well and good to say but... Norton is completely uninstalled on the old drive. I have two options copy everything to the new drive. The question becomes how do I copy all keys etc so that I don't have to reinstall everything. or How do I recover and fix my registry on the old drive. Mark Noel Paton wrote: It's so tempting to turn around and say 'Ditch Norton completely and then we can start rescuing your Windows installation' - that I think I'll leave it there..... -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Mark Garron" wrote in message ... I have run into a series of hard drive problems that I have tried to fix. I could not run scandisk through start up of my system. I came to the conclusion that my best tactic was to buy a new hard drive and install a clean install of windows me. I connect the old drive that I am having troubles as a slave and booted on the new drive. I ran scan disk and this seemed to clean up the problems. I booted on the old hard drive. I then tried to upgrade my copy of Norton anti virus in order make sure my problems were not caused by a virus. This did not work . I could not install the upgrade. I decided that I better boot the new hard drive with the old drive as a slave again. I installed the new version of Norton anit virus and ran a scan of both my drives. I lot of spy ware came up and I deleted all that i could. I then reboot trying to use the old drive and could not. I get a windows protection fault. I can not boot in safe mode either. I would guess that I have problems with the registry. How can I fix this? I can still boot using the new drive with the old drive as a slave. How can I run a diagnoistic and repair on the registry of a slave drive? If this can't be done perhaps I should look at building up a new registry on the new drive.. I do not want to reinstall all my software as this is very inpractical. What is the procedure in copying programs over one at a time so that all components and keys are installed? I can not boot using a floppy as I don't have a floppy drive. Is there any repair feature on the WindowsME install disk? Thanks for any help! Mark |
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Mark,
Why is a Safe Mode system restore impossible? Is this because you cannot get to Safe Mode? Regrettably there is no such thing as a DOS mode system restore although system restore can be run without loading explorer.exe. All that is possible from DOS is to use scanreg /restore which can be used to restore one of five backed up copies of the registry but not any deleted or amended system files. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP Mark Garron wrote: safe mode system restore is not possible. Perhaps a DOS mode restore is. However I would be booting from the system instal disk. So how do I do a backup restore? Where are these files kept. How do I do this? |
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Please excuse my previously confusing language. I now understand the
ambiguity. I meant to suggest what my colleague has previously posted: Booting to SR using DOS mode "Depending on the problems you are having, you may be able to use system restore using the following method which requires you to boot to DOS using your EBD and editing system.ini and replacing the line shell=explorer.exe with one reading shell=C:\windows\system\restore\rstrui.exe Now remove the EBD and see if you can start Win and boot direct into System Restore. For more details see KB 279736 "How to Start the System Restore Tool from a Command Prompt" (http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=279736) which mentions using progman.exe after which you can then locate and run rstrui.exe however using rstrui.exe as above works equally well." Mike Maltby MVP 5/09/2005 ------ Nevertheless, before doing so, Mark, we FIRST need the answer to Mike's question about why you can't boot to Safe Mode. Also, my reference to your system backup files, presupposed that you have used some third-party backup tool to create same previously. If not, that possible solution is SOL now. -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm In Memorium: Alex Nichol http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "Mike M" wrote in message ... Mark, Why is a Safe Mode system restore impossible? Is this because you cannot get to Safe Mode? Regrettably there is no such thing as a DOS mode system restore although system restore can be run without loading explorer.exe. All that is possible from DOS is to use scanreg /restore which can be used to restore one of five backed up copies of the registry but not any deleted or amended system files. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP Mark Garron wrote: safe mode system restore is not possible. Perhaps a DOS mode restore is. However I would be booting from the system instal disk. So how do I do a backup restore? Where are these files kept. How do I do this? |
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This was a nice idea but unfortunatley it didn't work. The error must hit
before systeme.ini loads. As for Mike's question why I can't run in safe mode. This is hard for me to say. If I knew I might have a solution. I can olny boot the drive as a slave or boot from the install disk and go to a dos prompt. Mark Jack E Martinelli wrote: Please excuse my previously confusing language. I now understand the ambiguity. I meant to suggest what my colleague has previously posted: Booting to SR using DOS mode "Depending on the problems you are having, you may be able to use system restore using the following method which requires you to boot to DOS using your EBD and editing system.ini and replacing the line shell=explorer.exe with one reading shell=C:\windows\system\restore\rstrui.exe Now remove the EBD and see if you can start Win and boot direct into System Restore. For more details see KB 279736 "How to Start the System Restore Tool from a Command Prompt" (http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=279736) which mentions using progman.exe after which you can then locate and run rstrui.exe however using rstrui.exe as above works equally well." Mike Maltby MVP 5/09/2005 ------ Nevertheless, before doing so, Mark, we FIRST need the answer to Mike's question about why you can't boot to Safe Mode. Also, my reference to your system backup files, presupposed that you have used some third-party backup tool to create same previously. If not, that possible solution is SOL now. -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm In Memorium: Alex Nichol http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx Your cooperation is very appreciated. ------ "Mike M" wrote in message ... Mark, Why is a Safe Mode system restore impossible? Is this because you cannot get to Safe Mode? Regrettably there is no such thing as a DOS mode system restore although system restore can be run without loading explorer.exe. All that is possible from DOS is to use scanreg /restore which can be used to restore one of five backed up copies of the registry but not any deleted or amended system files. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP Mark Garron wrote: safe mode system restore is not possible. Perhaps a DOS mode restore is. However I would be booting from the system instal disk. So how do I do a backup restore? Where are these files kept. How do I do this? |
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I can only boot with the drive as a slave or through the setup disk for
windows me. Tried scanreg /restore in DOS. IT doesn't seem to work when booted from the cd. Mark Mike M wrote: Mark, Why is a Safe Mode system restore impossible? Is this because you cannot get to Safe Mode? Regrettably there is no such thing as a DOS mode system restore although system restore can be run without loading explorer.exe. All that is possible from DOS is to use scanreg /restore which can be used to restore one of five backed up copies of the registry but not any deleted or amended system files. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP Mark Garron wrote: safe mode system restore is not possible. Perhaps a DOS mode restore is. However I would be booting from the system instal disk. So how do I do a backup restore? Where are these files kept. How do I do this? |
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Mark,
Scanreg /restore is not the same as system restore as I'm sure you are already aware. I've no idea what doesn't work when booted from a CD. What CD? Microsoft Win Me CDs aren't bootable however some OEM CDs are bootable as are some OEM recovery CDs. If scanreg /restore didn't get your system back up running and you are unable to launch system restore by modifying system.ini as suggested by Jack (KB279736) then it looks as if it's time to backup your user data from that disk and start over. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP Mark Garron wrote: I can only boot with the drive as a slave or through the setup disk for windows me. Tried scanreg /restore in DOS. IT doesn't seem to work when booted from the cd. |
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