Standby/STR/ACPI problem

Using Win98SE & all available updates. 256Mb ram. Gigabyte GA-BX2000 M/board
with Intel 440BX AGPset.

I can't seem to set my computer into 'standby' mode or possibly it is going
into standby and I can't 'wake' it up. This has worked in the past but not
since a full re-install. Curiously the 'Standby' option was available via
the Start Button-shutdown menu but when I tried it the whole thing froze
with a slightly grey desktop and I had to hit reboot. Following this the
'Standby' option was no longer available so I followed the Gigabyte BIOS
manual and reset the ACPI by setting 'ACPI SUSPEND TYPE' to suspend to ram
in Pwr Managment Setup. And via device manager-device settings-plug and play
bios which I guess added the Advanced Configuration & Power Interface (BIOS)
entry and installed 5 files from C:\windows\inf\machine.inf.

I now no longer have the 'Plug & Play Bios' option in device
settings........is this right??

Also, via control panel the Power Management Properties the options are;
Home/Office Desk, standby-never, Monitor-never, Hard Drive-never. Under the
Advanced tab the Power Button option is set to Shutdown but pressing it does
nothing, I have tried this reset to Standby but still nothing happens. The
third tab here is 'Hibernate' which I've not seen before and don't
understand what this is if it's different from standby.

Whether I try to set standby via the 'Shut Down' menu or setting 'Standby
after eg 20 minutes' it may actually be going into standby but I can't seem
to wake it. Proir to the re-install it would wake via any key on keyboard or
any mouse movement. The BIOS-Pwr Management Setup says; modem
ringon-enabled, Alarm-disabled, PME event Wakeup-disabled. In BIOS
intergrated Peripherals the PS/2 mouse pwr on is Disabled and Keyboard Pwr
on is set to Power key (absent from keyboard). There is a multikey pwr on
option (untried). Not sure if these are related to standby or if these are
to power up from cold.

Sorry for the longwinded explanation but any help appreciated.

Tim Whiteaway

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=188134 Restore Missing Standby

It may have removed itself due to two failures in a row. Now, perhaps do
not go absolutely nuts inside Device Manager. It can be quite a shock to
see Windows continually reboot, should you remove too many devices at
once. Also, there are those who passionately say, Standby is not worth
the trouble it is to recover.

http://search.support.microsoft.com/...SD=GN&LN=EN-US MSKB
Search "Your computer cannot go on standby"; Windows 98; Exact Match;
Full Text.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...46&Product=w98
Err Msg: Your Computer Cannot Go on Standby Because a Device...
(188246) - When your attempt to put Windows 98 or Windows Millennium
Edition (Me) in Standby mode, you may receive the following error
message: Your computer cannot go on standby because a device driver or
program won't allow it. Close all programs and try...

http://support.microsoft.com/default...28&Product=w98
Computer May Be Unable to Start Standby Mode
(232728) - When your computer attempts to start Standby mode, you may
receive the following error message: Your computer cannot go on standby
because a device driver or program won't allow it. Close all open
programs, and then try again.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...02&Product=w98
Cannot Use Standby Mode with USB Epson Stylus 740 Printer
(232902) - When you attempt to place your computer in Standby mode, you
may receive the following error message: Your computer cannot go on
standby because a device driver or program won't allow it. Close all
open programs, and then try again. If you click OK,...

http://support.microsoft.com/default...42&Product=w98
Error Message Disables Power Management Events
(232942) - When you receive the error message "Your computer cannot go
into standby," any of the following symptoms may occur:


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Tim Whiteaway" wrote in message
...
| Using Win98SE & all available updates. 256Mb ram. Gigabyte GA-BX2000
M/board
| with Intel 440BX AGPset.
|
| I can't seem to set my computer into 'standby' mode or possibly it is
going
| into standby and I can't 'wake' it up. This has worked in the past but
not
| since a full re-install. Curiously the 'Standby' option was available
via
| the Start Button-shutdown menu but when I tried it the whole thing
froze
| with a slightly grey desktop and I had to hit reboot. Following this
the
| 'Standby' option was no longer available so I followed the Gigabyte
BIOS
| manual and reset the ACPI by setting 'ACPI SUSPEND TYPE' to suspend to
ram
| in Pwr Managment Setup. And via device manager-device settings-plug
and play
| bios which I guess added the Advanced Configuration & Power Interface
(BIOS)
| entry and installed 5 files from C:\windows\inf\machine.inf.
|
| I now no longer have the 'Plug & Play Bios' option in device
| settings........is this right??
|
| Also, via control panel the Power Management Properties the options
are;
| Home/Office Desk, standby-never, Monitor-never, Hard Drive-never.
Under the
| Advanced tab the Power Button option is set to Shutdown but pressing
it does
| nothing, I have tried this reset to Standby but still nothing happens.
The
| third tab here is 'Hibernate' which I've not seen before and don't
| understand what this is if it's different from standby.
|
| Whether I try to set standby via the 'Shut Down' menu or setting
'Standby
| after eg 20 minutes' it may actually be going into standby but I can't
seem
| to wake it. Proir to the re-install it would wake via any key on
keyboard or
| any mouse movement. The BIOS-Pwr Management Setup says; modem
| ringon-enabled, Alarm-disabled, PME event Wakeup-disabled. In BIOS
| intergrated Peripherals the PS/2 mouse pwr on is Disabled and Keyboard
Pwr
| on is set to Power key (absent from keyboard). There is a multikey pwr
on
| option (untried). Not sure if these are related to standby or if these
are
| to power up from cold.
|
| Sorry for the longwinded explanation but any help appreciated.
|
| Tim Whiteaway
|
|

Windows help describes manual standby vs. automatic... I'm not clear here...
maybe someone knows/can help??

I would think manual standby, would be either the shut-down dialog box or
pushing the sleep key on a power keyboard which I have, right?

Automatic, therefore... would be user defined, using advanced tab on
screensaver option tab in the Display settings?

Now, if I use the sleep key, my puter goes into standby w/no message.
But, if I use the shutdown dialog box... my puter just turns back on almost
immediately.

It goes on automatic standby which I have tested, this is a test... enter
for 2 mins. go on standby, watch & wait!! I get a dialog box in 2 mins.
saying, "computer is preparing to go on standby" and I have an option to
cancel. And, the puter goes into standby.

***My settings are, advanced tab... standby in 1 hr., turn off hd in 1 hr.
and turn off monitor in 45 mins. This works, no problems.

On my P-3 puter, I could use both manual options, I'm almost sure I was able
to. Shouldn't I be able to use either my manual keyboard or the manual
option is shutdown dialog box as desired? I checked bios pwr. mgmt., I see
nothing I should change.

Just Curious Star

But, if I use the shutdown dialog box, my computer will not standby.
"PCR" wrote in message
...
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=188134 Restore Missing Standby

It may have removed itself due to two failures in a row. Now, perhaps do
not go absolutely nuts inside Device Manager. It can be quite a shock to
see Windows continually reboot, should you remove too many devices at
once. Also, there are those who passionately say, Standby is not worth
the trouble it is to recover.

http://search.support.microsoft.com/...SD=GN&LN=EN-US MSKB
Search "Your computer cannot go on standby"; Windows 98; Exact Match;
Full Text.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...46&Product=w98
Err Msg: Your Computer Cannot Go on Standby Because a Device...
(188246) - When your attempt to put Windows 98 or Windows Millennium
Edition (Me) in Standby mode, you may receive the following error
message: Your computer cannot go on standby because a device driver or
program won't allow it. Close all programs and try...

http://support.microsoft.com/default...28&Product=w98
Computer May Be Unable to Start Standby Mode
(232728) - When your computer attempts to start Standby mode, you may
receive the following error message: Your computer cannot go on standby
because a device driver or program won't allow it. Close all open
programs, and then try again.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...02&Product=w98
Cannot Use Standby Mode with USB Epson Stylus 740 Printer
(232902) - When you attempt to place your computer in Standby mode, you
may receive the following error message: Your computer cannot go on
standby because a device driver or program won't allow it. Close all
open programs, and then try again. If you click OK,...

http://support.microsoft.com/default...42&Product=w98
Error Message Disables Power Management Events
(232942) - When you receive the error message "Your computer cannot go
into standby," any of the following symptoms may occur:


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Tim Whiteaway" wrote in message
...
| Using Win98SE & all available updates. 256Mb ram. Gigabyte GA-BX2000
M/board
| with Intel 440BX AGPset.
|
| I can't seem to set my computer into 'standby' mode or possibly it is
going
| into standby and I can't 'wake' it up. This has worked in the past but
not
| since a full re-install. Curiously the 'Standby' option was available
via
| the Start Button-shutdown menu but when I tried it the whole thing
froze
| with a slightly grey desktop and I had to hit reboot. Following this
the
| 'Standby' option was no longer available so I followed the Gigabyte
BIOS
| manual and reset the ACPI by setting 'ACPI SUSPEND TYPE' to suspend to
ram
| in Pwr Managment Setup. And via device manager-device settings-plug
and play
| bios which I guess added the Advanced Configuration & Power Interface
(BIOS)
| entry and installed 5 files from C:\windows\inf\machine.inf.
|
| I now no longer have the 'Plug & Play Bios' option in device
| settings........is this right??
|
| Also, via control panel the Power Management Properties the options
are;
| Home/Office Desk, standby-never, Monitor-never, Hard Drive-never.
Under the
| Advanced tab the Power Button option is set to Shutdown but pressing
it does
| nothing, I have tried this reset to Standby but still nothing happens.
The
| third tab here is 'Hibernate' which I've not seen before and don't
| understand what this is if it's different from standby.
|
| Whether I try to set standby via the 'Shut Down' menu or setting
'Standby
| after eg 20 minutes' it may actually be going into standby but I can't
seem
| to wake it. Proir to the re-install it would wake via any key on
keyboard or
| any mouse movement. The BIOS-Pwr Management Setup says; modem
| ringon-enabled, Alarm-disabled, PME event Wakeup-disabled. In BIOS
| intergrated Peripherals the PS/2 mouse pwr on is Disabled and Keyboard
Pwr
| on is set to Power key (absent from keyboard). There is a multikey pwr
on
| option (untried). Not sure if these are related to standby or if these
are
| to power up from cold.
|
| Sorry for the longwinded explanation but any help appreciated.
|
| Tim Whiteaway
|
|

Sounds like you understand it just about right. Well, I say:

(a) Manual is either the keyboard Sleep button
or the "START, Shut Down, Standby" requestor, &
(b) Auto is "Control Panel, Power Management, Power Schemes tab",
where it may be set to happen by time.
(c) The "Advanced tab" says it controls what happens upon pushing the
computer's power button, either to shut off or go on Standby. So, that
is another manual method.

I always get the "computer is preparing to go on standby" when I do it
manually. It could be happening so quickly for you that you just don't
see it. It's been so long I can't quite recall whether the message shows
when Standby is entered automatically. I turned that off at the same
time I turned off ScreenSaver, after discovering something was
restarting my Scandisk/Defrag's. I only miss the ScreenSavers.

Yea, sometimes, it immediately comes back out of Standby here too. I
wait a few seconds & hit my Sleep button again. Rarely will it refuse
twice in a row. I don't know whether it was always so, but after waking
my NUM Lock is turned off. So? I just turn it back on.

So many have posted problems with Standby, & MVP's have spoken ill of it
often enough, that now I do it sparingly. But I still do it! Generally,
I close all open windows first.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Star" wrote in message
...
| Windows help describes manual standby vs. automatic... I'm not clear
here...
| maybe someone knows/can help??
|
| I would think manual standby, would be either the shut-down dialog box
or
| pushing the sleep key on a power keyboard which I have, right?
|
| Automatic, therefore... would be user defined, using advanced tab on
| screensaver option tab in the Display settings?
|
| Now, if I use the sleep key, my puter goes into standby w/no message.
| But, if I use the shutdown dialog box... my puter just turns back on
almost
| immediately.
|
| It goes on automatic standby which I have tested, this is a test...
enter
| for 2 mins. go on standby, watch & wait!! I get a dialog box in 2
mins.
| saying, "computer is preparing to go on standby" and I have an option
to
| cancel. And, the puter goes into standby.
|
| ***My settings are, advanced tab... standby in 1 hr., turn off hd in 1
hr.
| and turn off monitor in 45 mins. This works, no problems.
|
| On my P-3 puter, I could use both manual options, I'm almost sure I
was able
| to. Shouldn't I be able to use either my manual keyboard or the manual
| option is shutdown dialog box as desired? I checked bios pwr. mgmt.,
I see
| nothing I should change.
|
| Just Curious Star
|
| But, if I use the shutdown dialog box, my computer will not standby.
| "PCR" wrote in message
| ...
| http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=188134 Restore Missing Standby
|
| It may have removed itself due to two failures in a row. Now,
perhaps do
| not go absolutely nuts inside Device Manager. It can be quite a
shock to
| see Windows continually reboot, should you remove too many devices
at
| once. Also, there are those who passionately say, Standby is not
worth
| the trouble it is to recover.
|
| http://search.support.microsoft.com/...SD=GN&LN=EN-US
MSKB
| Search "Your computer cannot go on standby"; Windows 98; Exact
Match;
| Full Text.
|
|
http://support.microsoft.com/default...46&Product=w98
| Err Msg: Your Computer Cannot Go on Standby Because a Device...
| (188246) - When your attempt to put Windows 98 or Windows Millennium
| Edition (Me) in Standby mode, you may receive the following error
| message: Your computer cannot go on standby because a device driver
or
| program won't allow it. Close all programs and try...
|
|
http://support.microsoft.com/default...28&Product=w98
| Computer May Be Unable to Start Standby Mode
| (232728) - When your computer attempts to start Standby mode, you
may
| receive the following error message: Your computer cannot go on
standby
| because a device driver or program won't allow it. Close all open
| programs, and then try again.
|
|
http://support.microsoft.com/default...02&Product=w98
| Cannot Use Standby Mode with USB Epson Stylus 740 Printer
| (232902) - When you attempt to place your computer in Standby mode,
you
| may receive the following error message: Your computer cannot go on
| standby because a device driver or program won't allow it. Close all
| open programs, and then try again. If you click OK,...
|
|
http://support.microsoft.com/default...42&Product=w98
| Error Message Disables Power Management Events
| (232942) - When you receive the error message "Your computer cannot
go
| into standby," any of the following symptoms may occur:
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|
| "Tim Whiteaway" wrote in message
| ...
| | Using Win98SE & all available updates. 256Mb ram. Gigabyte
GA-BX2000
| M/board
| | with Intel 440BX AGPset.
| |
| | I can't seem to set my computer into 'standby' mode or possibly it
is
| going
| | into standby and I can't 'wake' it up. This has worked in the past
but
| not
| | since a full re-install. Curiously the 'Standby' option was
available
| via
| | the Start Button-shutdown menu but when I tried it the whole thing
| froze
| | with a slightly grey desktop and I had to hit reboot. Following
this
| the
| | 'Standby' option was no longer available so I followed the
Gigabyte
| BIOS
| | manual and reset the ACPI by setting 'ACPI SUSPEND TYPE' to
suspend to
| ram
| | in Pwr Managment Setup. And via device manager-device
settings-plug
| and play
| | bios which I guess added the Advanced Configuration & Power
Interface
| (BIOS)
| | entry and installed 5 files from C:\windows\inf\machine.inf.
| |
| | I now no longer have the 'Plug & Play Bios' option in device
| | settings........is this right??
| |
| | Also, via control panel the Power Management Properties the
options
| are;
| | Home/Office Desk, standby-never, Monitor-never, Hard Drive-never.
| Under the
| | Advanced tab the Power Button option is set to Shutdown but
pressing
| it does
| | nothing, I have tried this reset to Standby but still nothing
happens.
| The
| | third tab here is 'Hibernate' which I've not seen before and don't
| | understand what this is if it's different from standby.
| |
| | Whether I try to set standby via the 'Shut Down' menu or setting
| 'Standby
| | after eg 20 minutes' it may actually be going into standby but I
can't
| seem
| | to wake it. Proir to the re-install it would wake via any key on
| keyboard or
| | any mouse movement. The BIOS-Pwr Management Setup says; modem
| | ringon-enabled, Alarm-disabled, PME event Wakeup-disabled. In BIOS
| | intergrated Peripherals the PS/2 mouse pwr on is Disabled and
Keyboard
| Pwr
| | on is set to Power key (absent from keyboard). There is a multikey
pwr
| on
| | option (untried). Not sure if these are related to standby or if
these
| are
| | to power up from cold.
| |
| | Sorry for the longwinded explanation but any help appreciated.
| |
| | Tim Whiteaway
| |
| |
|
|
|
|

| On my P-3 puter, I could use both manual options, I'm almost sure I
was able
| to. Shouldn't I be able to use either my manual keyboard or the manual
| option is shutdown dialog box as desired? I checked bios pwr. mgmt.,
I see
| nothing I should change.

If you do not have Standby at "START, Shut down", then, perhaps...

"START button, Run, RegEdit", & navigate to...

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Policies\Exp
lorer

That is,
(a) Click plus signs, beginning at "HKEY_CURRENT_USER" & ending with
"Policies".
(b) Click "Explorer" in the left pane, & look in the right pane.
(c) Do you see anything there? What?

Although it is not specifically mentioned below, I can think there is a
possibility of something that would remove Standby from the Shut Down
requestor.

WARNING: Do not get carried away in the Registry. It is very important
to the proper functioning of Windows. Muss it badly, & you must boot to
DOS & "Scanreg /Restore". Then, choose the date of the last successful
boot from the five offered.

The rest of this is just informational...

......Start of Other things that may be done there.......
Right-click the right pane and select New, Binary Value, & name it:

NoClose To disable Shut Down.
NoFavoritesMenu To remove Favorites.
NoFileMenu To remove the File Menu in Explorer.
NoFind To remove Find.
NoLogOff To remove Log Off.
NoRecentDocsHistory To disable the Documents compilation process.
NoRecentDocsMenu To remove Documents.
NoRun To remove Run.
NoSaveSettings To prevent some few settings getting saved to the
Registry.
NoSetFolders To disable Control Panel and Printer folders.
NoTrayContextMenu To disable Taskbar context menu.
NoViewContextMenu To disable (all?) context menus.

Double-click the new entry, select modify, and add this value: 01 00 00
00.
To reverse the action, change the value to: 00 00 00 00
.......End of Other things that may be done there.......

http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q130234
Save Settings On Exit Option Enabled by Default
....Quote.............
....snip...
Setting the NoSaveSettings field to 1 prevents your settings from being
saved. When you set this value, the following items are not saved when
you exit Windows:

Changed icon positions on the desktop.
Windows that are open when you exit.
The size and position of the taskbar.
....End quote.......


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Star" wrote in message
...
| Windows help describes manual standby vs. automatic... I'm not clear
here...
| maybe someone knows/can help??
|
| I would think manual standby, would be either the shut-down dialog box
or
| pushing the sleep key on a power keyboard which I have, right?
|
| Automatic, therefore... would be user defined, using advanced tab on
| screensaver option tab in the Display settings?
|
| Now, if I use the sleep key, my puter goes into standby w/no message.
| But, if I use the shutdown dialog box... my puter just turns back on
almost
| immediately.
|
| It goes on automatic standby which I have tested, this is a test...
enter
| for 2 mins. go on standby, watch & wait!! I get a dialog box in 2
mins.
| saying, "computer is preparing to go on standby" and I have an option
to
| cancel. And, the puter goes into standby.
|
| ***My settings are, advanced tab... standby in 1 hr., turn off hd in 1
hr.
| and turn off monitor in 45 mins. This works, no problems.
|
| On my P-3 puter, I could use both manual options, I'm almost sure I
was able
| to. Shouldn't I be able to use either my manual keyboard or the manual
| option is shutdown dialog box as desired? I checked bios pwr. mgmt.,
I see
| nothing I should change.
|
| Just Curious Star
|
| But, if I use the shutdown dialog box, my computer will not standby.
| "PCR" wrote in message
| ...
| http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=188134 Restore Missing Standby
|
| It may have removed itself due to two failures in a row. Now,
perhaps do
| not go absolutely nuts inside Device Manager. It can be quite a
shock to
| see Windows continually reboot, should you remove too many devices
at
| once. Also, there are those who passionately say, Standby is not
worth
| the trouble it is to recover.
|
| http://search.support.microsoft.com/...SD=GN&LN=EN-US
MSKB
| Search "Your computer cannot go on standby"; Windows 98; Exact
Match;
| Full Text.
|
|
http://support.microsoft.com/default...46&Product=w98
| Err Msg: Your Computer Cannot Go on Standby Because a Device...
| (188246) - When your attempt to put Windows 98 or Windows Millennium
| Edition (Me) in Standby mode, you may receive the following error
| message: Your computer cannot go on standby because a device driver
or
| program won't allow it. Close all programs and try...
|
|
http://support.microsoft.com/default...28&Product=w98
| Computer May Be Unable to Start Standby Mode
| (232728) - When your computer attempts to start Standby mode, you
may
| receive the following error message: Your computer cannot go on
standby
| because a device driver or program won't allow it. Close all open
| programs, and then try again.
|
|
http://support.microsoft.com/default...02&Product=w98
| Cannot Use Standby Mode with USB Epson Stylus 740 Printer
| (232902) - When you attempt to place your computer in Standby mode,
you
| may receive the following error message: Your computer cannot go on
| standby because a device driver or program won't allow it. Close all
| open programs, and then try again. If you click OK,...
|
|
http://support.microsoft.com/default...42&Product=w98
| Error Message Disables Power Management Events
| (232942) - When you receive the error message "Your computer cannot
go
| into standby," any of the following symptoms may occur:
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|
| "Tim Whiteaway" wrote in message
| ...
| | Using Win98SE & all available updates. 256Mb ram. Gigabyte
GA-BX2000
| M/board
| | with Intel 440BX AGPset.
| |
| | I can't seem to set my computer into 'standby' mode or possibly it
is
| going
| | into standby and I can't 'wake' it up. This has worked in the past
but
| not
| | since a full re-install. Curiously the 'Standby' option was
available
| via
| | the Start Button-shutdown menu but when I tried it the whole thing
| froze
| | with a slightly grey desktop and I had to hit reboot. Following
this
| the
| | 'Standby' option was no longer available so I followed the
Gigabyte
| BIOS
| | manual and reset the ACPI by setting 'ACPI SUSPEND TYPE' to
suspend to
| ram
| | in Pwr Managment Setup. And via device manager-device
settings-plug
| and play
| | bios which I guess added the Advanced Configuration & Power
Interface
| (BIOS)
| | entry and installed 5 files from C:\windows\inf\machine.inf.
| |
| | I now no longer have the 'Plug & Play Bios' option in device
| | settings........is this right??
| |
| | Also, via control panel the Power Management Properties the
options
| are;
| | Home/Office Desk, standby-never, Monitor-never, Hard Drive-never.
| Under the
| | Advanced tab the Power Button option is set to Shutdown but
pressing
| it does
| | nothing, I have tried this reset to Standby but still nothing
happens.
| The
| | third tab here is 'Hibernate' which I've not seen before and don't
| | understand what this is if it's different from standby.
| |
| | Whether I try to set standby via the 'Shut Down' menu or setting
| 'Standby
| | after eg 20 minutes' it may actually be going into standby but I
can't
| seem
| | to wake it. Proir to the re-install it would wake via any key on
| keyboard or
| | any mouse movement. The BIOS-Pwr Management Setup says; modem
| | ringon-enabled, Alarm-disabled, PME event Wakeup-disabled. In BIOS
| | intergrated Peripherals the PS/2 mouse pwr on is Disabled and
Keyboard
| Pwr
| | on is set to Power key (absent from keyboard). There is a multikey
pwr
| on
| | option (untried). Not sure if these are related to standby or if
these
| are
| | to power up from cold.
| |
| | Sorry for the longwinded explanation but any help appreciated.
| |
| | Tim Whiteaway
| |
| |
|
|
|
|

"PCR" wrote in message
...
Sounds like you understand it just about right. Well, I say:

(a) Manual is either the keyboard Sleep button
or the "START, Shut Down, Standby" requestor, &
(b) Auto is "Control Panel, Power Management, Power Schemes tab",
where it may be set to happen by time.
(c) The "Advanced tab" says it controls what happens upon pushing the
computer's power button, either to shut off or go on Standby. So, that
is another manual method.

* *You have a power keyboard, you can choose the sleep key and/also the
shutdown dialog box and your puter will go into standby, correct? I'm sure
my P-3 did that too. Now, the shutdown dialog box doesn't do it, puter turns
back on. The keyboard sleep key does work for me.

I always get the "computer is preparing to go on standby" when I do it
manually. It could be happening so quickly for you that you just don't
see it. It's been so long I can't quite recall whether the message shows
when Standby is entered automatically. I turned that off at the same
time I turned off ScreenSaver, after discovering something was
restarting my Scandisk/Defrag's. I only miss the ScreenSavers.

Yea, sometimes, it immediately comes back out of Standby here too. I
wait a few seconds & hit my Sleep button again. Rarely will it refuse
twice in a row. I don't know whether it was always so, but after waking
my NUM Lock is turned off. So? I just turn it back on.

* *What happens when you use the dialog shutdown box, you see standby? Does
it work?

Star

So many have posted problems with Standby, & MVP's have spoken ill of it
often enough, that now I do it sparingly. But I still do it! Generally,
I close all open windows first.


--
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There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

Hi PCR, see *'s

"PCR" wrote in message
...
| On my P-3 puter, I could use both manual options, I'm almost sure I
was able
| to. Shouldn't I be able to use either my manual keyboard or the manual
| option is shutdown dialog box as desired? I checked bios pwr. mgmt.,
I see
| nothing I should change.

If you do not have Standby at "START, Shut down", then, perhaps...

"START button, Run, RegEdit", & navigate to...

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Policies\Exp
lorer

* * OK, I follow the path, I get to Current Version.... no Policies folder,
nor Exp folder?

That is,
(a) Click plus signs, beginning at "HKEY_CURRENT_USER" & ending with
"Policies".
(b) Click "Explorer" in the left pane, & look in the right pane.
(c) Do you see anything there? What?

* The path stops at Current Version, I'm using Explorer of course, rt. pane
to follow path.

Although it is not specifically mentioned below, I can think there is a
possibility of something that would remove Standby from the Shut Down
requestor.

WARNING: Do not get carried away in the Registry. It is very important
to the proper functioning of Windows. Muss it badly, & you must boot to
DOS & "Scanreg /Restore". Then, choose the date of the last successful
boot from the five offered.

The rest of this is just informational...

.....Start of Other things that may be done there.......
Right-click the right pane and select New, Binary Value, & name it:

NoClose To disable Shut Down.
NoFavoritesMenu To remove Favorites.
NoFileMenu To remove the File Menu in Explorer.
NoFind To remove Find.
NoLogOff To remove Log Off.
NoRecentDocsHistory To disable the Documents compilation process.
NoRecentDocsMenu To remove Documents.
NoRun To remove Run.
NoSaveSettings To prevent some few settings getting saved to the
Registry.
NoSetFolders To disable Control Panel and Printer folders.
NoTrayContextMenu To disable Taskbar context menu.
NoViewContextMenu To disable (all?) context menus.

** Wait a minute, you see all the above under Policies, how can this be, I
don't have the folder??

** These are the keys/folders in Current Version:
HKEY_USERS\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersi on\Telephony
HKEY_USERS\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersi on\Telephony\HandoffPriori
ties

**No Policies**

* I'm really lost now PCR, pls. help me out.

* I do see standby in shutdown dialog box, the puter turns of but comes back
on, I tried only twice, didn't think it was wise to try further. If I push
sleep on my keyboard it does go into standby, and I have it automatically
set to standby in 1 hour and that does work too, the monitor goes off in 45
mins.

* Don't know... but help me more!!

Star

Double-click the new entry, select modify, and add this value: 01 00 00
00.
To reverse the action, change the value to: 00 00 00 00
......End of Other things that may be done there.......

http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q130234
Save Settings On Exit Option Enabled by Default
...Quote.............
...snip...
Setting the NoSaveSettings field to 1 prevents your settings from being
saved. When you set this value, the following items are not saved when
you exit Windows:

Changed icon positions on the desktop.
Windows that are open when you exit.
The size and position of the taskbar.
...End quote.......


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Star" wrote in message
...
|
| "PCR" wrote in message
| ...
| Sounds like you understand it just about right. Well, I say:
|
| (a) Manual is either the keyboard Sleep button
| or the "START, Shut Down, Standby" requestor, &
| (b) Auto is "Control Panel, Power Management, Power Schemes tab",
| where it may be set to happen by time.
| (c) The "Advanced tab" says it controls what happens upon pushing
the
| computer's power button, either to shut off or go on Standby. So,
that
| is another manual method.
|
| * *You have a power keyboard, you can choose the sleep key and/also
the
| shutdown dialog box and your puter will go into standby, correct?

That is correct.

| I'm sure
| my P-3 did that too. Now, the shutdown dialog box doesn't do it, puter
turns
| back on. The keyboard sleep key does work for me.

Hmm. I prefer the Sleep key. But you should have both.

|
| I always get the "computer is preparing to go on standby" when I do
it
| manually. It could be happening so quickly for you that you just
don't
| see it. It's been so long I can't quite recall whether the message
shows
| when Standby is entered automatically. I turned that off at the same
| time I turned off ScreenSaver, after discovering something was
| restarting my Scandisk/Defrag's. I only miss the ScreenSavers.
|
| Yea, sometimes, it immediately comes back out of Standby here too. I
| wait a few seconds & hit my Sleep button again. Rarely will it
refuse
| twice in a row. I don't know whether it was always so, but after
waking
| my NUM Lock is turned off. So? I just turn it back on.
|
| * *What happens when you use the dialog shutdown box, you see standby?
Does
| it work?

Yes, I see it, & it works. That is true, although at "Control Panel,
Power Management, Advanced tab" I am set to Shut Down not to go on
Standby (when I press the power button).

Did you try those URLs I posted earlier, two posts up?

|
| Star
|
| So many have posted problems with Standby, & MVP's have spoken ill
of it
| often enough, that now I do it sparingly. But I still do it!
Generally,
| I close all open windows first.
|
|

--
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Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

No, don't worry; it's normal NOT to have that Policy Key. I don't have
one. Well, here is another set of Policies...

"START, Run, PolEdit".

Likely, it won't be there, or you'd have known to do that. So...
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=147381
How to Use System Policies On a Standalone Computer

I don't have that one, either. I'm just thinking it may have a policy
for it. However, just as likely it does not.

(1) What about those "Standby" URL's at MSKB, posted a while ago?
(2) Anyway, the keyboard Sleep button is more convenient. Perhaps stick
with that!
(3) How does it look at "Control Panel, System, Device Manager tab", any
red/yellow ?/!'s on any of the icons? (Those can be tough to deal with,
though.)


--
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Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Star" wrote in message
...
| Hi PCR, see *'s
|
| "PCR" wrote in message
| ...
| | On my P-3 puter, I could use both manual options, I'm almost sure
I
| was able
| | to. Shouldn't I be able to use either my manual keyboard or the
manual
| | option is shutdown dialog box as desired? I checked bios pwr.
mgmt.,
| I see
| | nothing I should change.
|
| If you do not have Standby at "START, Shut down", then, perhaps...
|
| "START button, Run, RegEdit", & navigate to...
|
|
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Policies\Exp
| lorer
|
| * * OK, I follow the path, I get to Current Version.... no Policies
folder,
| nor Exp folder?
|
| That is,
| (a) Click plus signs, beginning at "HKEY_CURRENT_USER" & ending with
| "Policies".
| (b) Click "Explorer" in the left pane, & look in the right pane.
| (c) Do you see anything there? What?
|
| * The path stops at Current Version, I'm using Explorer of course, rt.
pane
| to follow path.
|
| Although it is not specifically mentioned below, I can think there
is a
| possibility of something that would remove Standby from the Shut
Down
| requestor.
|
| WARNING: Do not get carried away in the Registry. It is very
important
| to the proper functioning of Windows. Muss it badly, & you must boot
to
| DOS & "Scanreg /Restore". Then, choose the date of the last
successful
| boot from the five offered.
|
| The rest of this is just informational...
|
| .....Start of Other things that may be done there.......
| Right-click the right pane and select New, Binary Value, & name it:
|
| NoClose To disable Shut Down.
| NoFavoritesMenu To remove Favorites.
| NoFileMenu To remove the File Menu in Explorer.
| NoFind To remove Find.
| NoLogOff To remove Log Off.
| NoRecentDocsHistory To disable the Documents compilation process.
| NoRecentDocsMenu To remove Documents.
| NoRun To remove Run.
| NoSaveSettings To prevent some few settings getting saved to
the
| Registry.
| NoSetFolders To disable Control Panel and Printer folders.
| NoTrayContextMenu To disable Taskbar context menu.
| NoViewContextMenu To disable (all?) context menus.
|
| ** Wait a minute, you see all the above under Policies, how can this
be, I
| don't have the folder??
|
| ** These are the keys/folders in Current Version:
| HKEY_USERS\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersi on\Telephony
|
HKEY_USERS\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersi on\Telephony\HandoffPr
iori
| ties
|
| **No Policies**
|
| * I'm really lost now PCR, pls. help me out.
|
| * I do see standby in shutdown dialog box, the puter turns of but
comes back
| on, I tried only twice, didn't think it was wise to try further. If I
push
| sleep on my keyboard it does go into standby, and I have it
automatically
| set to standby in 1 hour and that does work too, the monitor goes off
in 45
| mins.
|
| * Don't know... but help me more!!
|
| Star
|
| Double-click the new entry, select modify, and add this value: 01 00
00
| 00.
| To reverse the action, change the value to: 00 00 00 00
| ......End of Other things that may be done there.......
|
| http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q130234
| Save Settings On Exit Option Enabled by Default
| ...Quote.............
| ...snip...
| Setting the NoSaveSettings field to 1 prevents your settings from
being
| saved. When you set this value, the following items are not saved
when
| you exit Windows:
|
| Changed icon positions on the desktop.
| Windows that are open when you exit.
| The size and position of the taskbar.
| ...End quote.......
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|
|
|

Hi Tim.

I don't know if I can be of much help to you... but I will share what I've
esperienced.......see *'s.
"Tim Whiteaway" wrote in message
...
Using Win98SE & all available updates. 256Mb ram. Gigabyte GA-BX2000
M/board
with Intel 440BX AGPset.

I can't seem to set my computer into 'standby' mode or possibly it is
going
into standby and I can't 'wake' it up. This has worked in the past but not
since a full re-install. Curiously the 'Standby' option was available via
the Start Button-shutdown menu but when I tried it the whole thing froze
with a slightly grey desktop and I had to hit reboot. Following this the
'Standby' option was no longer available so I followed the Gigabyte BIOS
manual and reset the ACPI by setting 'ACPI SUSPEND TYPE' to suspend to ram
in Pwr Managment Setup. And via device manager-device settings-plug and
play
bios which I guess added the Advanced Configuration & Power Interface
(BIOS)
entry and installed 5 files from C:\windows\inf\machine.inf.

* First, from what you are describing, I believe you puter is going into
hibernation and not standby. When I was running a P-3, using a Jetway mobo,
I DID have the hibernation feature/tab in Display. I tried it out, I could
not wake the puter period, yet I knew the puter was running. This was
several yrs. ago, but I do remember, finally, I just had to push the restart
button on the puter. My experience w/standby is the puter WILL wake easily
as described by you!! When the puter is on standby, the green led light will
flash if it is functioning correctly.

* My P-4 does not support hibernation, I don't have the option.

* My P-3 would do this... using/choosing *standby option* in shutdown dialog
box. Following choosing standby, another box would appear on my screen,
computer is preparing to enter standby... and I had a option to cancel,
before the bar showed completion of the progress or process.

* I don't see this on my P-4, immediately the pc enters standby. I didn't
have a power keyboard w/my P-3. I do now and can power on my pc using the
power button on keyboard. My puter easily goes into standby when I push the
sleep key on my keyboard. However, and I just found this out... doesn't
make sense to me, but w/my P-4 and using standby in start/shutdown dialog
box WOULD not work... my puter turned of and restarted immediately. I
found out last night, I decided to try again. BUT, before I did I did a
ctl. alt. delete and I ended ALL tasks, mainly my Epson printer, but a few
others too that were running, Stimon, Rnapps, etc. I went to shutdown and
picked standby and the puter immediately went into standby. I don't
understand why the sleep button and the dialog box/standby option seem to
have different requirements? I read somewhere about Epson printers causing
problems... evidently this was my problem in using the start/shutdown dialog
box. My Epson software causes me many other problems too.

Star

I now no longer have the 'Plug & Play Bios' option in device
settings........is this right??

Also, via control panel the Power Management Properties the options are;
Home/Office Desk, standby-never, Monitor-never, Hard Drive-never. Under
the
Advanced tab the Power Button option is set to Shutdown but pressing it
does
nothing, I have tried this reset to Standby but still nothing happens. The
third tab here is 'Hibernate' which I've not seen before and don't
understand what this is if it's different from standby.

Whether I try to set standby via the 'Shut Down' menu or setting 'Standby
after eg 20 minutes' it may actually be going into standby but I can't
seem
to wake it. Proir to the re-install it would wake via any key on keyboard
or
any mouse movement. The BIOS-Pwr Management Setup says; modem
ringon-enabled, Alarm-disabled, PME event Wakeup-disabled. In BIOS
intergrated Peripherals the PS/2 mouse pwr on is Disabled and Keyboard Pwr
on is set to Power key (absent from keyboard). There is a multikey pwr on
option (untried). Not sure if these are related to standby or if these are
to power up from cold.

Sorry for the longwinded explanation but any help appreciated.

Tim Whiteaway