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Old December 5th 05, 10:24 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.internet
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Default Windows 98 Updates noe IE crashes

I downloaded and installed 3 critical updates 12/04/2005. Since this my IE
6.(?) now crashes when I click on the History icon. I can copy and paste the
dump but I am not at that PC at this time. Does anyone have any ideas? Is
anyone else experiencing this problem?
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Old December 6th 05, 05:50 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.internet
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Default Windows 98 Updates noe IE crashes

I made it back to the PC in question. It is running Win98 SE 4.10.2222 A and
IE 6.0.2800.1106 Update Versions SP1, Q890923, Q891781, Q313829, Q883939,
Q903235, Q896688. Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks

"Jeff" wrote:

I downloaded and installed 3 critical updates 12/04/2005. Since this my IE
6.(?) now crashes when I click on the History icon. I can copy and paste the
dump but I am not at that PC at this time. Does anyone have any ideas? Is
anyone else experiencing this problem?

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Old December 6th 05, 09:14 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.internet
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Default Windows 98 Updates noe IE crashes

Jeff,
If you look in the Win98.internet.windows_update newsgroup you will see info
on 896688. This latest update is apparently causing lots of problems for Win
98 users. The best answer so far is don't load it but that will not help
you! From what I have seen from the actual Security Bulletin MS05-052, the
update modifies a whole load of dll files so that they modify the "Kill Bit"
in CLSIDs. The bulletin says that they have done this COM object mod on a
whole load of files over and above what they did in MS05-038 as these
additional files display similar tendencies to those in MS05-038.(896727)
All to do with IE and Active X.

I would suggest try and remove 896688. If you don't have any luck with that
you could possibly check the file list in MS05-052 and using the Version
Conflict Manager change all the files back to the previous version. Once you
have done that you may wish to check all the individual entries in the
Registry to ensure the relevant "Kill Bits" have been reset.

I don't use the auto update Microsoft Updates. I periodically check the
update centre, let it do a scan a then note what it wants to do. I then go
away and read all the update info at leisure, let the dust settle and update
individually at a later date. I am running MS05-038 no problems and looking
at the chaos from MS05-052 I wont be loading that. However what worries me
more is that all these updates are cumulative and unless Microsoft actually
states they have overcome the problem with MS05-052 with Win 98/98SE, we
will not be able to load any further IE updates.

Alan
"Jeff" wrote in message
...
I made it back to the PC in question. It is running Win98 SE 4.10.2222 A

and
IE 6.0.2800.1106 Update Versions SP1, Q890923, Q891781, Q313829, Q883939,
Q903235, Q896688. Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks

"Jeff" wrote:

I downloaded and installed 3 critical updates 12/04/2005. Since this my

IE
6.(?) now crashes when I click on the History icon. I can copy and paste

the
dump but I am not at that PC at this time. Does anyone have any ideas?

Is
anyone else experiencing this problem?



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Old December 6th 05, 06:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.internet
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Default Windows 98 Updates noe IE crashes

Jeff,
Further to my previous post, I have been reading through the Security
Bulletins to try to understand more of what is happening. The first thing I
must say is don't delete or reinstall any files without first comparing file
lists from both Bulletins. I haven't quite worked out what 52 is doing over
38 in terms of files, but I did spot that a couple had the same revision
criteria - hence this further note!

Alan

"Alan" wrote in message
...
Jeff,
If you look in the Win98.internet.windows_update newsgroup you will see

info
on 896688. This latest update is apparently causing lots of problems for

Win
98 users. The best answer so far is don't load it but that will not help
you! From what I have seen from the actual Security Bulletin MS05-052, the
update modifies a whole load of dll files so that they modify the "Kill

Bit"
in CLSIDs. The bulletin says that they have done this COM object mod on a
whole load of files over and above what they did in MS05-038 as these
additional files display similar tendencies to those in MS05-038.(896727)
All to do with IE and Active X.

I would suggest try and remove 896688. If you don't have any luck with

that
you could possibly check the file list in MS05-052 and using the Version
Conflict Manager change all the files back to the previous version. Once

you
have done that you may wish to check all the individual entries in the
Registry to ensure the relevant "Kill Bits" have been reset.

I don't use the auto update Microsoft Updates. I periodically check the
update centre, let it do a scan a then note what it wants to do. I then go
away and read all the update info at leisure, let the dust settle and

update
individually at a later date. I am running MS05-038 no problems and

looking
at the chaos from MS05-052 I wont be loading that. However what worries me
more is that all these updates are cumulative and unless Microsoft

actually
states they have overcome the problem with MS05-052 with Win 98/98SE, we
will not be able to load any further IE updates.

Alan
"Jeff" wrote in message
...
I made it back to the PC in question. It is running Win98 SE 4.10.2222 A

and
IE 6.0.2800.1106 Update Versions SP1, Q890923, Q891781, Q313829,

Q883939,
Q903235, Q896688. Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks

"Jeff" wrote:

I downloaded and installed 3 critical updates 12/04/2005. Since this

my
IE
6.(?) now crashes when I click on the History icon. I can copy and

paste
the
dump but I am not at that PC at this time. Does anyone have any ideas?

Is
anyone else experiencing this problem?





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Old December 6th 05, 06:59 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.internet
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Default Windows 98 Updates noe IE crashes

More information.
The following is from the Win 98.internet.windows_update newsgroup. In
particular from the post "Only Administrators" and added to by Marcus on the
20/11/05. I wouldn't go as far back as Heidi is suggesting. MSHTML.DLL in
MS05-038 is version 6.0.2800.1516 dated July 05. I am running this in 98SE
with no problems.
Alan

I am using 6.00.2800.1106 and there is still a problem with accessing the
WU site....along with problems using Flash Player, and embedded media. The
only solution so far is deleting KB896688 from the add/remove programs.

marcus

"Heidi" wrote in message
...
There is a definite problem with Critical Update Q896688 and W98, and it
lies with the new version of MSHTML.DLL (6.00.2800.1522). Restore the old
version 6.00.2800.1106 and everything will work fine again.
--
Heidi

"Alan" wrote in message
...
Jeff,
Further to my previous post, I have been reading through the Security
Bulletins to try to understand more of what is happening. The first thing

I
must say is don't delete or reinstall any files without first comparing

file
lists from both Bulletins. I haven't quite worked out what 52 is doing

over
38 in terms of files, but I did spot that a couple had the same revision
criteria - hence this further note!

Alan

"Alan" wrote in message
...
Jeff,
If you look in the Win98.internet.windows_update newsgroup you will see

info
on 896688. This latest update is apparently causing lots of problems for

Win
98 users. The best answer so far is don't load it but that will not help
you! From what I have seen from the actual Security Bulletin MS05-052,

the
update modifies a whole load of dll files so that they modify the "Kill

Bit"
in CLSIDs. The bulletin says that they have done this COM object mod on

a
whole load of files over and above what they did in MS05-038 as these
additional files display similar tendencies to those in

MS05-038.(896727)
All to do with IE and Active X.

I would suggest try and remove 896688. If you don't have any luck with

that
you could possibly check the file list in MS05-052 and using the Version
Conflict Manager change all the files back to the previous version. Once

you
have done that you may wish to check all the individual entries in the
Registry to ensure the relevant "Kill Bits" have been reset.

I don't use the auto update Microsoft Updates. I periodically check the
update centre, let it do a scan a then note what it wants to do. I then

go
away and read all the update info at leisure, let the dust settle and

update
individually at a later date. I am running MS05-038 no problems and

looking
at the chaos from MS05-052 I wont be loading that. However what worries

me
more is that all these updates are cumulative and unless Microsoft

actually
states they have overcome the problem with MS05-052 with Win 98/98SE, we
will not be able to load any further IE updates.

Alan
"Jeff" wrote in message
...
I made it back to the PC in question. It is running Win98 SE 4.10.2222

A
and
IE 6.0.2800.1106 Update Versions SP1, Q890923, Q891781, Q313829,

Q883939,
Q903235, Q896688. Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks

"Jeff" wrote:

I downloaded and installed 3 critical updates 12/04/2005. Since this

my
IE
6.(?) now crashes when I click on the History icon. I can copy and

paste
the
dump but I am not at that PC at this time. Does anyone have any

ideas?
Is
anyone else experiencing this problem?







 




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